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hey, a special edition of "360," my interview with piers morgan is next. will hear about his approach to interviewing and how he plans to shake things up in the time slot starting monday with oprah winfrey. first new developments out of tucson tonight. gabrielle giffords continuing to delight her doctors, with progress she is making. last night, president obama delivered the news she opened her eyes. today her medical team says she is aware of her surroundings and better still is beginning the first stages of rehab. also, today news that a bag suspect jared loughner was carrying shortly before the shooting has been discovered
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containing ammunition. let's talk to randi kaye and dr. sanjay gupta with all the details on the congresswoman's remarkable progress. sanjay, you spoke to mark kelly today, what did he tell you? >> he was in houston when he first found out, chief of staff to congresswoman giffords called him and told him she had been injured. he is a pilot as you know, astronaut. he was able to get on a plane, a challenger, get to tucson very fast. 45 minutes. arriving right around the time his wife was out of the operating room back in the intensive care unit. at that time he met with dr. rhee and dr. lemole to hear for the first time to hear what specifically happened to his wife. he learned she had been obviously suffered a gunshot wound to the head at that time. and sort of got some idea of her progress and what was expected. you know, this was interesting to hear him talk. anderson, you know, about what happened for example, specifically last night. he doesn't strike me as the guy
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who sort of, you know likely to use the word miracle off the cuff. when describing this eye-opening you were talking about, he said it was a miraculous thing. i asked him, i said, do you think your wife knew the president of the united states was visiting, visiting the room? he sort of paused for a second and he said, i think she knew the president was there. although i am not sure she could figure out why he was visiting her. that gives you a little idea of where she is in her awareness state. she reaches out from time to time, anderson. touches his face. he was joking around with me. he kept her, you know sort of unable to see visitors and really trying to keep things quiet in the room. he joked around at one point she was actually trying to strangle him because she was getting so bored. gives you a little bit of an idea of what is happening inside that room. he said the breathing tube may come out tomorrow, could be in for a couple more days. every single day there has been progress. >> randi, you told us last night authorities were looking for the black bag that may have belonged to loughner.
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he had run off, his father tried to chase him down. disappeared, didn't know where the bag was. they found it now, right? >> right. this was the bag he and his father argued about according to police in the front yard the morning of the shooting anderson. his dad apparently asked him, what is in the bag? loughner took off. his dad tried to chase him down. today a young man not far from the loughner home in the neighborhood actually found the bag. turned it over to police. and the pima county sheriff's department now says in the bag was ammunition, 9 millimeter ammunition to be more specific whiff would match the weapon that they believe was used in the shooting on saturday morning. in the bag ammunition. there were also a few other things in the bag they will not elaborate on. we know the ammunition was bought at a wal-mart. they wouldn't say what the store receipts, where the store -- receipts were from, there were store receipts in the bag? >> dr. sanjay gupta you, talked to dr. peter rhee, any word from him? >> he is obviously coordinating
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the care still. i asked him specifically about how he was so optimistic right at the time that this injury occurred. it was a little surprising. take a look at what he said, take a listen. >> i was more concerned about disability later on, not about whether she was going to die. >> at no point were you worried about that? at any point since this all happened now almost a week later? >> i was actually kind of excited about the fact that we have somebody with a -- a head shot that is going to survive and might have good recovery. i mean, i get disappointed when i come in here and somebody is dead or i can't do something for. when i see some one i can salvage and do something good for that's when you get all revved up. >> that is a great sense of his personality right there. dr. rhee, he never doubted it. he said i was always confident she was going to survive this. >> sanjay. thanks. randi, for the hour a preview. we'll have all the latest at the
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10:00 edition of "360" an hour focusing on the shooting. also latest, out of washington and haiti premier, monday, oprah winfrey, piers kicking off his show with oprah. may know him from "america has got talent" and "britain's got talent." known for his sharp interviewing style which you will see firsthand. we talk tonight about everything from celebrities, scandals, politics, the royal family including his friendship with princess di. we begin with his latest career move. >> why on god's earth do you want to do a show on cnn? >> it actually goes back to 1991. i was working a big national newspaper, newsroom in britain. the sun. i was in my early 20s. i was watching this giant screen, like the one behind you there. and it was the iraq war and it was, it was bernie shore and peter arnett. >> it is going very high in the sky over the hotel.
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>> they were literally doing the most astonishing television i had ever watched. and the whole newsroom came to a halt. and i realized watching it that the future of journalism was probably through the prism of a tv screen for the first time. and the whole cnn thing seemed incredibly thrilling. the 24-hour news. if it happened you had to watch cnn. for me i thought i would spend my life in newspapers. i could see that television through 24-hour news networks like cnn would be the future. >> how will you measure success on your show? >> i have been brought up a time when cnn was going through the tough time, ratings with the american audience. i have been brought in to shake up that 9:00 hour, make is louder, noisier, more provocative, get some headlines, get it talked about. i think that's my remake. above all i have to get the ratings up. that is the problem at cnn right now. i will do that i think by maiming the ethos of cnn. i don't want to bring my
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politics into this. >> do you see yourself as liberal conservative? >> i don't want to say that. i can't vote here any way. it is kind of meaningless. b, i don't want to get pigeon holed once i start the show as a political interviewer who has a bias. people say, give me an example of how cnn can be the middle ground and not be partisan and make a big noise? i quote you, actually. from your reporting at katrina. i really didn't get a sense that you were bothered if it was a democrat or republican administration. >> you know, i have got to tell you there are a lot of people here who are very upset, very angry and very frustrated. what you cared about so passionately and eloquently in your reporting from there was that somebody, in administration, running your country, was betraying these people. and it had to stop. now i don't think that is anything but brilliant journalism. not trying to blow smoke up your back side. >> no, no, it is working. >> if you enjoy it, i can.
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it's where cnn its at its best. it can be just as visceral, emotive and passionate vales without partisan political speak. >> what makes a good interview for you? >> i like it when people are surprising, not just to me but to everybody else and to themselves. >> you have done some surprising interviews with folks in the u.k. elton john, simon cowell, gordon brown, i think you made them all cry one time or another. >> how do you make simon cry? >> it's not easy. >> i interviewed him for "60 minutes" for days at a time. >> i know him very well. 20 years. for him, thought the only time he will get emotional he had this freakish day in his life when he had his first big number one hit record with a group called west life. it was the day that his father died. who had encouraged him through his life. it was as he put it horrific day of double emotion, the wonderful excitement of that moment of
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being number one and then this terrible crushing moment of ringing his mother to speak to his father to tell him the great news. >> you actually do research? >> yeah, yeah. >> i researched simon a lot. researched simon a lot. i did not know that moment. had i know that i would have used that. >> i'm sort of obsessive about research because of my journalistic background. i like interviews to engender an emotion in people. whether it is tears, laughter, anger, passion, whatever it is, you can't be dull emotionally. can't be nothing. >> you want authenticity. >> i want to find out what they're like. >> do you think you could make john boehner cry. >> the american dream -- >> i think he needs to get more in touch with the emotional side. i felt this for some type. when i watched that as a brit. a british politician, a generic situation, he would be laughed at in britain.
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though the media was scoffing a little bit. the public find that kind of emotion quite moving. and they probably like a bit of emotion and passion in their leaders. >> i personally, i was surprised, the ladies of the view made fun of him. i kind of think people want their politicians to be more real. here is a guy who is showing real emotion. >> i suppose the concern is if you get a huge national event like a 9/11 you don't want to have people overly emotional running your country. but i didn't really get that sense from him the i thought he was genuinely an emotional guy about that kind of thing, children, the future, the dream that he is living. he feels that quite passionately doesn't he? >> how much of an interview do you try to prepare. you do a lot of research. you probably write out questions. how much of it is what you thought about in advance? how much is impromptu based on what somebody else said? >> like to research thoroughly. i would hate to have a moment with a guest where they really know you don't know about a key
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aspect of their life, you haven't bothered to find out. as a journalist, it is a prerequisite of the job to be well briefed on them the having said that i love spontaneity. i think on television with an interview you can get some of the best moments in television from the silence, or from a whoa, what did you say, anything that makes it suddenly not look scripted. makes it go veering off from what the viewer at home sees as a nice cozy set up. i like when it is going to reveal something fascinating about the person. that's what it its. doesn't have to be something bad. fascinating the to me there is the seven ps, before you've sit down. it's my brother's unofficial regimental motto in the royal welsh in afghanistan, planning, prior, preparation, prevent. piss poor performance. a great mantra. three fs for guests, fascinating, fun, fabulous. if they're those, you have a great show. if you have done the seven ps and meet the three fs you have
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emmy winning stuff. >> seven ps, three fs. >> that's the rule. try it sometime. >> i will. >> you got lucky today. you didn't do the 7 ps, but got the 3 fs. >> that is true. >> after the break, piers talks about princess di's naughty side, and his marriage to paris hilton. >> was there a prenup. >> did you have to take a course of antibiotics after that? it's your fault. naturally, blame the mucus. well, i can't breathe. did you try blowing your nose? of course. [ both ] and nothing came out. instead of blaming me, try new advil congestion relief. what you probably have is swelling due to nasal inflammation, not mucus. and this can help? it treats the real problem of your sinus symptoms, reducing swelling due to nasal inflammation. so i can breathe. [ mucus ] new advil congestion relief. the right sinus medicine
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welcome back to this special 9:00 edition of my conversation with piers morgan. pointed opinions about celebrities and thinks the biggest pop stars of our time is a bore, i disagree with. and as you see, a lot to say about the royal family and his friendship with princess di. you knew princess diana quite well, spoke to her on the phone? >> had an amazing lunch with her and prince william. what was she like? >> charismatic, beautiful, intoxicating, incredible beauty. like one of the most beautiful women i have ever seen in my life. funny, mischievous, machiavellian. >> machiavellian, really? born that way or made that way? >> partly both. she came from quite a damaged upbringing. her mother was basically an
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alcoholic who moved away from the kids when they were very young. all those children were quite damaged. i think that diana was troubled as a youngster. then she was 19 when she married prince charles. sort of ridiculously young age to be pushed into this incredible roller coaster ride of being a princess. the whole world fell in love with her. made her the biggest star in the world at 19. i think she found it very difficult to deal with. she could be naughty. i remember camilla parker bowles, 50th birthday party. prince charles was doing the unveiling of his love for camilla. and diana was with mohammed al fayed. i got a call from the boat, where they were, will your photographers be on the beach tomorrow morning at 9:00, the morning of the party then i said, they will. they said make sure they are. 9:00 out she comes in a leopard skin bikini and did half an hour of cart wheels knowing every front page of the paper next day, would be dear camilla,
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happy birthday, love diana in this stunning leopard skin dress. where she could be naughty. >> you are banning ma donna, what do you have against madonna? >> she's boring. there is lady gaga now. it's cyclical. there will be a new anderson in ten years. i will have to ban you. >> i am boring. i like madonna. >> she is boring. i'm too old to do that kind of thing. when i saw her stripping off undies, enough. >> i met madonna a couple times. i think she is interesting. >> i disagree. and she's banned. that's it. by the way it's permanent. a life ban. there is no way back. >> you banned her the but you got married to paris hilton. >> i did. >> we have a picture of this. where is the picture? >> it cost just $300 and all over in 15 minutes. that's my kind of romance.
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♪ >> do you piers morgan take paris hilton to be your wedded wife? >> i do. >> and you paris hilton take piers morgan to be your lawfully wedded husband? >> i do. >> i give you this ring. >> nice. >> it's a really big one. >> i give you this ring. >> as a symbol. >> as a symbol. >> of my love and commitment. >> of my love and commitment. >> i give you this ring. >> i give you this ring. >> as a symbol. >> as a symbol. >> of my love and commitment. >> of my love and commitment. >> by the power vested in me by the power of this state, i do now pronounce you husband and wife. piers, you may kiss your wife. ♪ that's amore >> thank you. >> remember, piers, what happens in vegas, stays in vegas. but i'm keeping the ring. >> did, was there a prenup? >> i can't go into the details.
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>> did you have to take a course of antibiotics after that? >> because if i don't -- because of the dog. the little dog was yapping at my heels. i am proved my union with paris. i'm doing a documentary on las vegas. trying to illustrate how ridiculously easy and absurd and shallow it is to get married in an elvis chapel. elvis, marilyn monroe, rat back, beatles, forming around us. went through this farcical ceremony. she had the spirit of things technically she is my bride. >> did she keep the ring, in fact? >> probably. >> you used to kind of skewer celebrity a lot. you seem now more embracing of it true? >> sort of. i have kind of poached the gamekeeper, i have gone on the other side of the fence. i felt as a newspaper editor that a lot of celebrities were whining prima donnas who wanted to have their cake and eat it. >> now i crossed the other side.
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>> i wouldn't stress that to them in the booking process. i am certainly much more attracted to celebrity whose don't whine all the time. members of the public hate a whining celebrity. hang on you have all these amazing things in your life the only thing you have to put up, irritating, a photographer, or some silly headline. to me it is not in the general scheme it is not important. >> next, why piers got punched in the head. and a decision he made about covering the iraq war that led to his very public firing from "the daily mirror" in london. >> going back to my apartment, river side apartment in london with a few very close friends. we got a chinese meal and fine french wine and watched my own obituaries on television.
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print journalism in england is famous for a rough and tumble world not only on the printed page. as i continue with piers morgan he talks about the time he got punched because of photos he published in the newspaper and the thrill of being appointed to a major position and the sting of a very public professional downfall. you are only like two years older than. you seem a lot more adult than me. >> i know. i won the say anything. i think, i had to grow up very early. i was 28 years old, rupert murdoch made me editor of the news of the world, biggest selling newspaper in the world. >> the job offer came as you were walking down a beach together for a couple hours. what that's like to stroll down the beach with rupert? >> i was editing the sun, i got a call rupert murdoch wants to see you tomorrow. great, where?
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miami, on a plane now. go to the airport, heathrow, fly to miami. i meet rupert murdoch, let's go to the beach, miami beach, i go to the beach, with the media tycoon, walk up and down, miami beach in the surf for a couple hours. we talk about life and the universe. several stages i'm thinking what the hell is happening here? why am i here? why am i doing this? at the end of it we want to a party, is was when he bought the nfl for fox. and they were having a big party for the affiliates for fox. he introduced me to a guy dave hill, set up fox sports, legendary tv guy. with the immortal words, piers morgan, new editor of the news of the world. that was the first time i knew what this was all about. when he introduced me by my title i didn't know i had. it was surreal. next day he said let's go to new york. two limousines, get on the gulf
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stream 4 and fly to new york. he fell asleep. as he fell asleep and i sat there and the waitress is saying would you like the chicken or roast beef? i said a glass of wine the i said i don't think life gets better than this. if the plane nose dives into the atlantic the i have just landed the biggest newspaper in the word. i can't believe it, i'm 28. >> you have been punched on your job you have? who punched you? >> a tv presenter, jeremy clarkson. top gear, a huge show in britain. he took exception to the fact that "the daily mirror" published photographs of him in a slightly compromising position with a woman that wasn't the mrs. it happened twice. we ended up at the british press awards. imagine the scene, 1,000 journalists and photographers in one room from every national newspaper. in the middle of the room the guy comes up to me and punches me three times in the head. i have a little scar in my head here where the third one hit with the ring.
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>> that's what the scar is? >> the scar is from the third punch with the ring, gouging out part of my temple there. at that point at least i remembered to say something. how is this playing other than really bad. i didn't hit him back the i thought i'm going to get fired. ironic, three weeks later i got fired. i didn't hit him back. i kept my cool. this ail all be noted for posterity. think of something quick. i said something, my 3-year-old hits me harder than that. and that gloriously be cape the only quote that came out of the incident. i had blood streaming from my head, wake up to find out i am a bit of a hero. came up with the line he broke his little finger. it's gnarled, disfigured. when i see him on a show. it is a gnarled finger. it's quietly satisfying. >> let me ask you about toughest times, youngest editor of the rupert murdoch paper, there under three years. >> two years. >> moved to the daily mirror.
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huge paper in great britain. what happened to you at the daily mirror? >> i had a great time for ten years. then i got fired. got fired over a pretty serious issue. abu ghraib had blew up in america, all over the media. and a scandal of pretty epic proportions. and we had had by coincidence for two months some photographs of what appeared to be british troops abusing iraqi civilians in a similar manner. and we had a -- a lot of fact checking on this for two months. we found out the guys who were giving them to us were soldiers in a particular regiment who had been in iraq. >> you were given the images by soldiers. they were who they said they were the they had been in iraq. i saw photo albums of them there the i still believe they believe these pictures were genuine. and they wanted to be paid a couple thousand dollars by personal check in their own name to their home address. if they were hoaxes they were at
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least sophisticated hoaxes. i believed they were sincere in -- sincere the we had a conference. we had been anti-war newspaper, war. we were a left supporting newspaper. >> you had been close to tony blair, multiple meetings. >> 56 one-on-one meetings with tony blair as prime minister. the daily mirror in all intents and purposes was his newspaper. >> you guys broke over the war? >> i felt it was unethical, immoral and illegal. i believe that. the twist was my brother was fighting there. he was in basra. the day we published the pictures. he believes then and now we were justified in publishing it. he certainly believes having inherited the mess from previous regiment that what we were publishing was the truth. >> you still believe the pictures may be real? >> i believe the jury is out. i believe at worst they were
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reproductive pictures of a genuine incident. unacceptable journalistically. i wouldn't pretend it is. i haven't seen the concrete evidence. no one produced to me the person that took them, where they took them and what they are if they're fakes. until they do i won't apologize. i don't believe apologizing to a regiment that frankly had a number of troops in their ranks who were doing despicable things to iraqi civilians. >> how do you recover from something like that? that was a huge story in britain, pictures on the front page. publicly fired. for a lot of people that would be the end. >> you know, i was 38 years old. i thought my book would be called the youngest editor ever fired. i was appointed so young. i had done years. i was probably getting a little bored any way. i had done almost every big story. when you had done princess diana's death, 9/11, and there is nothing like it since to compete with that. everyone was waiting for me to crash down and feel humiliated
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and downtrodden and it's over. i remember going back to my apartment, river side apartment in london with a few very close friends and we got a chinese meal and got some fine french wine and watched my own obituaries on television. >> you actually watched people criticizing you? >> first ten minutes on both of the main evening news. >> you watched? >> i looked and was laughing. watching people i knew hated me trying to pretend they were sorry i was fired. i love that. i am so sorry he is gone. no you are not you little -- what i felt was that i would be vindicated one day. i felt that, i knew in my gut that these pictures depicted the truth. that certain british troops, tiny percent anything as with abu ghraib had severely let down not only the ridge, british armed forces and the country. i felt very proud not just of ex-posing that. we ex-posed many more revelations on that story over the two weeks before i got fired, which were not counted at all. >> up next, what piers really
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>> welcome back to this special 9:00360. my conversation with piers morgan, the new program piers morgan tonight premiers monday night, 9:00 p.m. on cnn. traveling between two cultures he has an interesting perspective on the difference between brits and americans. and i want to know how a serious journalist became a judge on talent shows. i don't know if you saw jon stewart when he was recently on cnn. i want to play something he said. >> by the way i think they made a brilliant choice by bringing
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in a british guy no one has heard of. i think that is, when i am thinking about floating a sinking ship, what do i want to bring on it, the guy people are going to tune in and go who's that? and why is he speaking so funny? >> what did you think when you heard that? >> last night, david letterman did the same thing. said some guy we never heard of. you are at the cutting edge. "america's got talent" has been number one for five years, you never heard of me. get with it. >> you are well known in england for interview shows and journalism. here you are known as -- >> judging. best criteria. i judged 11 pigs in britain's got talent and america's got talent. when a pig comes up now. i'm your man. i am the pig guy. i have seen 11 of you guys. >> first how did you become a judge on talent shows.
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i am not saying you don't have any talent. but i take it you don't sing. >> i don't sing. >> do you dance? >> i don't sing and i don't dance, not to a level i would be comfortable judging myself. >> okay. how did you get to be a judge? >> simon cowell. he interested a thing. if it is all pressure, ferocious cat fight, you have to be pretty quick witted, making hundred decisions a day, and you have to have levity. you have got to be able i think to spot talent, nurture it, you are always looking to promote a hot new thing in your newspaper and be right about it so you don't back a turkey. you have got to be judgmental and opinionated. you put all the things together you actually have a talent show judge. that's my excuse. >> you have written eight books right? >> yeah. >> a number best-sellers. >> some are pretty awful. some are pretty awful.
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some are great. the insider is a great book. last one, god bless america is pretty good too. >> your last one was about experiences in the united states. >> a diary of two years here during the process of your election with the election of barack obama. which as a brit coming here for a few months of the year watching his assent to power was quite an extraordinary story the i wanted to record it and record my genuine feelings as it all unfolds. >> what do you think the biggest differences between america and the u.k. are? >> i think it is interesting. we are saying about the humor difference. plays a different way as well. we might mock the americans for not having irony and sarcasm we pride ourselves on the you don't have the cynicism. americans are more positive and more accepting and encouraging of success. your class system is not based on where you were born or school you went to. your class is based on achievement, hard work and success. >> in england, class is
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prevalent, what family you were born into? >> there is real cynicism, towards success, if you are successful in britain. if i drive a nice car around london you will get people who genuinely want to scratch it and want to spit on you and want to feel envious and resentful. if you drive an aston martin around beverly hills, i had four, five people on different occasions, saying, hey, nice wheels. they were pleased for me. >> did you rent one for three months? >> they gave me one. >> that's nice. i hope that wasn't cnn. >> it wasn't cnn. don't worry. relax. apparently most of the money goes your way. but we can soon change that, can't we? i think aston martin, the james bond figure they were looking for. >> i'm lucky if i get one of the navigator things in my rental car.
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>> what's this castle you bought in manhattan. >> firehouse. firehouse. >> ha-ha. >> you have a pole in there? >> yeah, a pole on every floor, matter of fact. i have four poles on every floor. i'm reducing one. yeah, i am no milton berle, but i do okay. have you had to change yourself in order to kind of fit with american audience? there is huge differences between britain and the united states? >> i will say this i am not so sure. i think there are slight humor differences where you are in america. if you are in new york very similar kind of humor to the kind of stuff i get in britain. sarcastic people, setting each other up. l.a. isn't like that at all. they take you much more literally. when you got to dallas, austin, seattle. very different again. what i learned is you have to work out a pattern perhaps to your humor that can appeal to the whole of america.
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that does limit the way you go. if you are a brit, particularly limits all the sarcasm. >> to a large swath it will go over their heads. >> we actually say swath. >> work it out. five years of america's got talent. touring america. i slowly worked out a kind of route 1 humor valve which normally works. >> the thing that always surprised me about england, london, americans and myself included always have this idea about it being this incredibly elegant place, this place, not to be ridiculous, folks walk around nicely dressed. >> charles dickens, victorian. >> something like that. every time i go over there00. i was over there a couple weekends ago. >> you get stabbed, shot at. >> i leave my hotel. it's 11:00 at night. the pubs have just closed. and the amount of people just come pouring into the street,
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continuing the conversation with piers morgan, he hated twitter until he started tweeting. and talks about a nasty accident riding a segue. and the day of our interview he dissed my clothes. take a look. i understand you don't like casual fridays. and around there, a lot of people do casual fridays. >> you are wearing an immaculate suit, and jeans and white socks. >> i thought we were shooting at a desk. i didn't think we would be seen. i don't like being on a three shot. we were just on. >> we should be on a three shot.
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my grandmother had a saying, three important things in life. never trust any one that can't pronounce the letter r, keys jangling from the pocket and wears white socks and black shoes. >> white socks. i'm at the end of a laundry cycle. >> pathetic. >> you are trying to dig yourself out of an ever bigger hole. >> the three shots. >> i think we should. the public should see the fashion icon. >> you are wearing european pointy shoes. >> i'm wearing prada. >> french, louis shoes. i digress. have you figured out how to ride a segue yet. i think we have some video. >> you don't have video, do you. this is so humiliating. >> behind you and i will videotape you. >> get back.
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get back the get back. get back. >> you're repeating it. and a third time. >> that was one of the most popular videos in british history. >> you actually injured yourself here? >> here is the background. i know you must know this. >> i know all the background. >> when i was at the daily mirror, president bush fell off a segue. >> you made fun of him00. we did a head line. only a complete idiot would fall off one of these, wouldn't they mr. president. and cut forward on santa monica boulevard. the idiot friend of mine says let's get the segues out. i think there's karma here. i remembered the bush thing00. that looked bad. i broke five ribs and collapsed a lung. >> from that? >> nearly killed me. >> wow the. >> awful. the worst thing. four days before the -- >> there we go. let's see it again. >> my friend is saying on the video this is going to be better than sex.
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at which point i fell over. >> were you taken to the hospital from here. >> i could barely move. i couldn't breathe. i punctured my lung. five clean fractures. the final of america's got talent five days later the i literally couldn't breathe, walk, talk. some would say would have improved my performance as a junk. i am in the chaotic stay. and i am saying i can't make it. i have this wonderful 78-year-old nurse, coreen. she said, darling, you are in los angeles, the show must go on. i was like, not in my back it's not. simon rang. he knew how to get me out of bed. he said really don't worry about it. we have louis walsh, a judge on x factor, he is desperate to get in my slot. we have louis on stand by the he can be here tomorrow. it was like straight out of that bed. i was living like a mummy. and all this strapping. i could barely move or breathe or talk. and i was like, i can't say anything.
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just sit there look at you like mummy from egyptian times. and david hasselhoff insisted on singing live. he sang this is the moment. it was so awful. jerry springer the host at the time. piers, i understand you want to say something. i do. i didn't think anything could be more painful than breaking five ribs. david, you just did it. >> i rode a segue in the halls here. it's not hat hard. >> whatever. whatever. >> it's bloody painful. >> you have also been very down on twitter for years. >> until i joined it. >> joined it a few weeks ago. >> where was it. you called twitter a pointless vacuous form of gormless twits to tweet to twits. >> i made the assess the before i was on it myself. by joining it, i raised the tone.
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it ceases to be gormless. the bar has been raised to a level where i feel comfortable. >> why do you look to tweet? >> i got twitter wrong. i thought twitter was for twits. and the people i was sort of looking at who were on it, i thought they were tweeting such nonsensical trivial detail of their boring, mundane little lives. >> i read one of your tweets, talking about eating some steak in a restaurant, and i thought to myself, who cares? >> well, you're reading it, so you must have been. >> i don't know how it got on my blackberry. >> the fact is you read about me eating a steak. >> literally while i'm eating a mcdonald's hamburger and i thought, why aren't i in a fancy restaurant eating a steak? >> i love twitter that it can be inconsequential, the detail can be pointless but you're having this weird constant and real time debate with the world. >> do you have crazy people tweeting you back? because that's annoying. >> i love the abuse.
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i retweet the best of the abuse. it's one of the things you have to take in our job. i haven't been an editor where you're public enemy number one all the time. i embrace it. i wake up, i like people to go on and say you're such a half wit. what's your talent? i say nothing. i don't have one. imagine how much anger you now feel. i don't have one. it really gets to them. >> up next, piers and i switch roles. he interviews me and quite frankly some of his questions caught me off guard. >> what's been the greatest moment of your life. the one you'd relive again before you died. >> wow. >> the single moment. >> hmm. wow. let me think about that. daddy, i'm bored. almost. it converts the car's braking force into electricity, so it's more efficient. so i thought... what if we put that same system onto one of these?
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over the course of his long journal. >> career, piers morgan asked me probing questions about my professional life and personal life. >> so, anderson, obviously you're the poster boy for cnn. >> oh, is that right? oh. >> so you told me. but. >> it does say that on my business cards. >> i was curious, though, because before i was planning my own assault on the 9:00 p.m. slot, they said have you watched one of anderson's show. i got ready to watch this guy from katrina, haiti, probably one of the most respected news journalist in the world. i turned on my screen and i was horrified because you appeared to be wearing a giant rabbit outfit and trying to give bananas to gorillas. >> i was in a bunny costume
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because the apes told me to. you probably had second thoughts about coming to cnn. >> i had to ring the suits, as larry calls them. have i made a terrible mistake here? >> you think it's like after midnight. yeah. >> to me your greatest moment was the katrina period when i think you came of your own there. is that your greatest moment as a journalist? i don't mean great in the sense of lording yourself, but the moment you felt was most significant to your career and -- >> yeah, i'd say it's probably the moment when i understood the job better than i ever had before. i mean, i'd spent a lot of time overseas, i'd been in the genocide in rwanda and been to a lot of places where terrible things were happening. but to be in a position where you're sort of ahead of relief workers, ahead of the response, and have the ability to actually talk to politicians who are in charge of this stuff who are saying things which are not true, that was the first time i felt, you know what?
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i'm in exactly the right place at exactly the right time. probably the only other time i felt that was in haiti. >> this is downtown port-au-prince, just a few blocks from the presidential palace. being sort of in the first team on the ground and really seeing things and being able to see things that are not going right and call them out and try to get them to change. >> how much pressure do you feel to keep it honest yourself? >> how do you mean? >> you must be almost saint-like now because you can't be dishonest at all. all of us lie at least ten times a day. you can't. you can't even get into a restaurant and say anything wrong. >> i've just stopped talking to people altogether so i don't have to say anything one way or the other. on the program, i really do feel a responsibility to be equally tough on liberals as well as conservatives, republicans as well as democrats. you know, i think right now there's this -- it's very easy to have a show which is a liberal show or conservative show and to, you know, shove your opinion down somebody's throat. i'm not somebo of strong political opinions, i really do believe there's a role for not
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taking sides but being the only side being siding with the viewer and siding with facts. and that's what i'm, you know, very dogmatic about. >> what's been the greatest moment of your life? the one you'd relive again before you die? >> wow. >> the single moment. >> hmm. wow. let me think about that. honestly, professionally, i'd say the greatest moment was -- and this is going to sound weird, but -- was being in haiti that first week after the earthquake. because i think there's nothing worse than seeing people who have lived good and decent lives dying, be crushed, and their bodies put away into dump trucks and literally dumped on to the side of a road and no one knows their name, no one even knows their passing and no one know what's will ever happen to them.
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to be in a position where you could try to help people and actually call out those who are doing that sort of stuff and trying to make a difference, to me, professionally, that was the moment when i felt i'm -- this is exactly what i want to be doing with my life. and personally the greatest moment -- you know, i think for -- i lost my dad when i was 10 and i think for anyone who -- for any kid who, you know, loses a parent at an early age, i think, you know, it is transformative, it changes, i think the person i was meant to be -- the person i am now is very different than the person i was meant to be before my dad died. so, you know, if i could relive any moment it would probably be, you know, some -- some of the few memories i have of him when we were all together as a family and just, you know, hanging out watching tv and as a kid i used to watch tv and lay my head on his stomach and i remembere


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