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this friday on cnn, tune in to the next episode of 24/7 right now, on cnn, child sex and a college football coach, a well known at that accuseaccused. >> they say this charity was a point for him to get access to kids. >> it doesn't end with jerry sandusky. more penn state university big wigs are facing charges. plus, animals gone wild. >> i've got a long rifle with me.
>> new graphic details on those exotic animals that got loose in ohio and why police were forced to shoot to kill. plus, chickenpox, lollipops? parents, buying candy containing the virus online for their kids. why? and the super nanny, jo frost. she's hot over the judge caught on tape beating his daughter. >> this is abuse and we have to open our eyes up about it and do something about it. >> that's just the beginning of her rant. it's all right here right now on cnn. good evening, everyone, i'm don lemon. on a huge saturday for college football, shocking allegations to report of sexual child abuse against a former coach for the revered penn state nittany lions and a pair of university big wigs are accused of covering it up. you may not know his face, but if you're a college football fan, you know his name. jerry sandusky. penn state's former coordinator
led away in handcuffs, back in 1977 he found a charitable organization for at risk children called second mile. he's accused of committing sexual assaults or advances on eight young men he met in the program between 1994 and 2009. in all, he faces 40 counts. sandusky's attorney says he knew the arrest was coming. >> he's been aware of these allegations now for over three years. he came back to state college voluntarily last night. the other hand, i've seen counts in cases like this where there are allegations of child abuse that involved hundreds of counts. so 40 actually in terms of perspective, in terms of the nature of the case and the allegations, it doesn't surprise me. >> sandusky is currently out on $100,000 bail. also involved in this case, penn state's athletic director timothy curley and gary schultz, the university senior vice president for finance and
business. both are charged with perjury and failing to report an investigation into the allegations. pennsylvania's attorney general linda kelly made this statement. "this is a case about a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys and also a case about high ranking university officials who allegedly failed to report the sexual assault of a young boy after the information was brought to their attention and later made false statements to a grand jury that was investigating a series of assaults on young boys." and penn state's president graham spaniar released a statement reading in part "the allegations about a former coach are troubling. it's appropriate they be investigated thoroughly. protecting children requires the utmost vigilance. tim curley and gary schultz operate at the highest levels of honesty, integrity and compassion. i am confident this record will show these charges are groundless and that they conducted themselves professionally and appropriately." penn state's head football coach joe paterno is not facing any charges.
the attorney general says paterno did ask tim curley about one of the incidents involving sandusky in 2002. the hacking group anonymous now says it will not name members of mexico's notorious drug cartel known as the zetas. hackers threatened to release the cartel members' names in retaliation for one of its members being kid napped. on friday, the group said the kidnapping victim had been released, bruisd but alive. cnn can't confirm if there was a kidnapping victim or if the person had been freed. unanimous members who wear masks are better known for hacking into government and banking computers and identifies itself with the occupy movement. now, we go to the trial of michael jackson's doctor in los angeles. jurors are taking the weekend
off as they deliberate the fate of dr. conrad murray who's accused of involuntary manslaughter in jackson's death. in the center of the case is propofol. jean casarez recently spoke with jackson's former dermatologist. what he had to say was shocking. jean joins us from phone by los angeles. jean, you've been covering this trial from the very beginning. what did dr. arnold klein tell you? >> i went over to dr. klein's house this afternoon. i spoke to him several hours ago. he definitely admits to the demerol injections. he was in the midst of rebuilding michael jackson's face, that michael wanted to be the best he could be. he was a perfectionist. he knew this tour was coming up. step by step he was rebuilding it. it took time and it was very, very painful. he says the evidence that was brought before the court and before the jury of all the records of all the demerol shots were not his in entirety because
he was out of the country the entire month of may. there were some records that three days in a row he would get upwards of 900 milligrams in 3 days. >> that's not true. it was not 900 milligrams in 3 days. not that i gave him. >> i'm not saying you. i'm saying the records. >> one day in may, i gave him medicine. the rest of the times in may he got medicine from different doctors. >> so he's saying that during the month of may when at one point three days in a row he got 300 milligrams which would be 900 milligrams of demerol. dr. klein said he was in paris, that the other doctors that were independent but they worked inside his office must have given michael that demerol then when he got back in the office in june, you saw it go back down to 100 milligrams. don, what he's saying is he believes the defense is trying
to target him because those were not all of this injections. he believes that he's been a target of this entire trial. and why? he says, don, because he's different. and he says when people are different, they become targets. he aligns himself with galileo and also michael jackson, himself, saying look a the child molestation trial. jackson was targeted just because he's a little different. don, i've reached out to ed chernoff, lead counsel for the defense to get their take on all of this and have not heard back from them yet. >> jean, michael jackson was addicted to demerol and other drugs and also that he administered the fatal dose of propofol, itself. that was at the crux of the defense's case. what is this interview? it's interesting he says this to you. do you think this will have an effect on the defense? >> the point is probably not who administered the propofol. the defense was trying to make the point the demerol was given to michael jackson which
produced side effects which although were not the cause of death built up in his system. dr. klein believes the prior trial tried to make him a target, a scapegoat. so dr. conrad murray will not take the brunt is what to due to him. he thinks it so horrendous he was given propofol in a bedroom such as that. he told me that three different times he tried to intervene because he said michael jackson was totally addicted to propofol. he said he chartered a jet to las vegas when he knew michael jackson was having propofol. he went to the mirage hotel, kicked the doctor out who was in the midst of administering propofol to michael jackson. he said he flew to hawaii and slept on the floor of the hotel room with his own nurse because he didn't want michael to have propofol and kicked the plastic surgeon out that was giving him propofol and another time in new york. it was fascinating to listen to
him, to get to know him a little bit. he's a very down to earth doctor. and very kind person. >> and i should note, this is all your interview. this has not been presented into evidence during the trial. they rested now and the deliberations are going on. it should not affect the jury. the jury is not supposed to be watching the news coverage. jean casarez, great interview. thank you for joining us tonight. let's go to occupy wall street and those in the occupy wall street movement will tell you it is no true leaders. former new york mayor rudy giuliani says he knows who's responsible. president barack obama. that's what he says. giuliani says the president is inspiring the movement by fostering class warfare and described the economic policy as redistribute the wealth which he sees as a key message of the occupy movement. coming up later on on cnn, cnn goes in-depth and follows the occupy movement.
we'll hear from reporter who spent 24 hours in its birthplace, new york's zuccotti park. imagine coming face to face with lions and tigers. >> a male called in that advised approximately 25 minutes ago, about a hundred yards from 70 headed toward south -- he saw a large black bear. >> coming face to face with lions and tigers is exactly what happened when the 50 exotic animals got loose in ohio. we have brand new video and new details from authorities about what exactly happened when they had to shoot to kill. the star of the hit show "super nanny" is heated tonight all over this texas judge who was caught on tape beating his daughter with a leather belt. >> we're in the 21st century, don, this is not the 16th. we're aware of what the damages are, how it breaks down relationships. have you seen this crazy video? that's a helicopter. that's right.
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>> i hear you shooting down there. be careful toward the house. >> a male called in, advising me 25 minutes ago, 100 yards from 70 headed toward -- he saw a large black bear. >> an official report on the incident says at times the animals were just a few feet away from police officers. one sergeant reported spotting a white tiger apparently eating the body of its deceased owner. all the animals were killed. a viral video set off a nationwide debate this week. when does a parent's discipline turn into child abuse? the footage that triggered it shows a texas family court judge beating his 16-year-old daughter with a leather strap. a warning, the clip is graphic and it's disturbing. >> bend over the bed. bend over the bed. >> stop. stop. stop. >> parenting experts are in an uproar.
among them, the former star of the "super nanny" jo frost has dedicated her life to helping to raise other people's kids. and she says the judge's methods in the video constitute child abuse. >> let's not justify this behavior. there are alternatives of discipline in a child that allows you to have a healthy relationship with your children. trust for you to be able to build your family dynamic in a way that's healthy and functional. this is not functional. this is people calling in, going on twitter and justifying what we know as abuse. we're living in the 21st century, don, this is not the 16th century. >> is there any instance, any instance where corporal punishment is acceptable? >> i don't think so at all. i have clearly shown certainly in america for the last eight years, where families who have been raised to think that corporal punishment is fine have asked me to come into their homes and recognized parents
have a choice in chooing alternative discipline that allows them to grow with their family and to bond. it's not acceptable by any means at all. >> okay. people know you as the problem solver who has entered the homes of hundreds of families and turned things around. possibly thousands of families. if you were in this home, what would you have done? >> i think the most important thing to do here is to understand that families need to be very clear in their communications with rules and expectations and understand when we're dealing with 16-year-olds, it's about meeting those expectations and understanding we can take away their privileges when they've broken those rules. >> when you see the full seven minutes of the video, the father is definitely very stern, scary to a lot of people. he is cursing and putting his teenage daughter down as he puts her down. i want to you take a look at the clip and how he views what he did seven years ago when the footage was shot. >> in my mind i haven't done anything wrong at other than discipline my child after she
was caught stealing. i did lose my temper. i since apologized. >> he doesn't have remorse. he has apologized. how do children, especially teens, respond to this type of parenting? this severe scolding and a parent who downplays it? >> don, he didn't apologize. he didn't apologize. he justified what he did. that's what he did. he knows, he knows now that there are certainly other ways in how he could have done things better. that's the point here, that america needs to recognize that. as a spokesperson of the american association prevention of cruelty to children, when we know addiction, violent, aggression, bullying, comes from families who do not break this mold, this is what we're going
to see. it's not just about laying down rules and expectations, but about how you nurture your relationship and build trust with your children and validating their opinions. >> jo frost is a spokesperson for the american society for the prevention of cruelty to children. which reports last year more than 1,700 kids died from abuse. just friday, police in indiana arrested this father on murder charges. investigators say terry sturgess bound his 10-year-old son with duct tape and beat him to death. a florida woman says she's grateful to be alive after a helicopter crashed into her house. the chopper went down today in west palm beach, florida, hitting the woman's roof and car. a second home was also damaged. amazingly the pilot and the passenger only suffered minor injuries. an investigation is now under way. herman cain wraps up a week he'd probably like to forget. >> i don't know who's in charge of his rapid response team. it might be the same people who ran charlie sheen's management seminar. it might be lindsay lohan's people. >> more from my conversation with political satirist bill durst, next. like crest pro-health multi-protection.
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tonight the debate fireworks were limited to two republican presidential hopefuls down in texas. newt gingrich is enjoying a recent upswing in the polls and herman cain, the virtual front running coming off a tough week with past allegations of sexual misconduct coming back to haunt him. it wasn't what happened during the debate that has people talking but what happened immediately after. cnn's political reporter shannon travis was there for the whole thing. shannon, update us. what happened? >> reporter: well, don, it's clear that after a week of questions and claims surrounding herman cain, details and denials his campaign are determined to move on. as you just mentioned, the debate itself was much about entitlement spending but what happened after the debate at a
press conference featuring mr. cain. things got a little bit testy. mr. cain was asked questions about the substance of the debate. when it turned to the natures of the allegations against him that he's denied, he got really testy. take a listen and look at what happened moments ago. >> if you all listen, if you all just listen for 30 seconds, i will explain this one time. >> could you sit -- >> it's time for us to trade places, everybody, so mr. cain -- it's time for us to change places. >> you see what i mean? i was going to do something my staff told me not to do and try to respond, okay? what i'm saying is this -- we are -- we are getting back on message -- >> thank you, mr. cain. >> -- end of story. back on message. read all of the other accounts. read all of the other accounts. everything has been answered.
end of story. we're getting back on message. okay? >> reporter: and, don, there was more. herman cain was asked by reporters, mr. cain, you're the presidential front-runner in many polls, are you simply not going to answer anymore questions from reporters or specifically on this topic? take a listen at another thing that happened at that press conference when he basically scolded journalists, scolded journalists essentially saying, you know what, you're not doing your jobs. >> coming up within the next several weeks. >> excuse me, ladies and gentlemen, last question, please. >> mr. cain, one of the women who filed a sexual harassment -- >> don't even go there. >> can i ask my question? >> no -- >> guys, no gossip. >> can i ask a good question? >> where's my chief of staff? >> i'm right here. >> please send him the journalistic code of ethics. >> will do. >> all right? who has -- you want to ask another good question? >> reporter: a journalistic code
of ethics, basically saying that journalists are not following the code of their craft. it was something he echoed in the debate, itself, where at the end of it, don, he basically said one of the biggest surprises he learned in running for president, that journalists essentially make things up out of whole cloth. don? >> shannon, you'd think if someone gets to this position, they would understand how the media works. does herman cain really think he's going to get reporters to stop asking him questions because he simply says so? it just doesn't work that way. >> reporter: well, the herman cain campaign, they feel that the questions have been unfairly focused on the allegations and not on their claims to beat them back.
the herman cain campaign also is seeing a lot of conservative support. they've raised a lot of money in the past few days since the allegations came to light. a lot of conservativeses i've spoken with said this is all just gossip. the organizers of the event, one of the reasons they didn't want this brought up is because the organizers, themselves, thought this was all too much about nothing. the herman cain campaign on one hand feels they've gotten a bad rap but on the other hand knows how this plays well with their conservative supporters, don? >> yeah. all right. shannon, thank you very much. appreciate. good report. good reporting tonight. it's going to continue to go on and on and on. cain may not have wanted to talk about the allegations of sexual misconduct. it was clearly the biggest political story of last week. i want you to listen to how it evolved in the days after the allegations resurfaced. >> if the restaurant association did a settlement, i am not -- i wasn't even aware of it. i am unaware of any sort of settlement. i was aware that an agreement was reached. the word settlement versus the word agreement, you know, i'm
not sure what they called it. and, yes, there was some sort of settlement, a termination, and i don't even know what the contents of that was. >> i was talking about cain's slow recall earlier with comedian will durst. take a listen to this now. will, i mean, most people were scratching their heads. it seems like his memory is slowly being revived, doesn't it? >> well, it harkins back to actually bill clinton. it depends what the definition of is is. it depends on what the definition of agreement or settlement is. and his story, i mean, his story has changed more often than mitt romney's policies. >> all right, will. listen to cain explaining the incident with the first accuser that he acknowledged. listen to this. >> once i referenced this lady's height and i was standing near her and did this saying, you're the same height as my wife. my wife is 5 feet tall.
she comes up to my chin. this lady is 5 feet tall and she comes up to my chin. obviously she thought that that was too close for comfort. >> i don't know what the coming up to the chin has to do with anything. it's kind of -- the whole thing is, you know, what it boils down to, mr. lemon, is he said/she said, he said/she said/she said -- did i say cheese head? no. go pack. >> he held a news conference. when i saw this and i said, did he really think this was going to work? he had a press conference at a medical center last week and he said -- i'll let him say and and we'll talk about it. >> i'm here with these doctors and that's what i'm going to talk about. so don't even bother asking me all of these other questions that you all are curious about. okay? don't even bother. >> are you concerned about the
fact that these women do want -- >> what did i say? >> are you concerned about -- >> excuse me. excuse me. >> step aside, please. >> what part of no don't these people understand? >> all right, will, come on, did he really think he was going to face a bunch of reporters and not get questions about that? >> i totally agree. i don't know who's in charge of his rapid response team. it might be the same people who ran charlie sheen's management seminar. it might be lindsay lohan's people. >> political satirist will durst. funny guy. hopefully he'll be back with us soon on cnn. former olympian and boxing champ smoking joe frazier is in for the battle of his life. he's in hospice right now with liver cancer. the details are straight ahead. the tooth of beatles legend john lennon is up for auction. yes, i said the tooth is for sale. that story two minutes away.
checking the headlines. boxing legend joe frazier is in a philadelphia hospice seriously ill with liver cancer. the former heavyweight champ was diagnosed with the disease several weeks ago. nicknamed smokin' joe, he took on the biggest names in boxing including muhammad ali and george foreman. nba players and owners are trying to salvage part of the pro basketball season, meeting right now with the federal mediator.
the two sides are reportedly $100 million apart over how to split league revenues. hall of famer, now team owner, michael jordan has joined the talks. how much is a single rotten tooth worth? depends on who the tooth belonged to. one of john molars with a bonus cavities was sold at an auction for $31,000. the buyer, a dentist, who's written a book on celebrity teeth. oh, boy. well, it may seem the occupy wall street demonstrators are getting more attention for their confrontations with police than their anger against corporations. about 50 more people were arrested today in new york city. if you check out this twitter page, which protesters say keeps a tally, 3,200 occupiers have been taken in. but when officers aren't around, what is occupy life life? well, cnn went in-depth,
embedding himself at the site where occupy originated, zuccotti park. >> i'm going to be here until i die. i don't know how long some other people are going to be here. >> mike check. >> mike check. >> mike check. >> it's falling apart. see the apple floating over there? ♪ >> do you guys need towels? >> yeah. >> all right. >> thank you. ♪ >> so i'm charging this deep cycle marine battery by peddling this stationary bike. then we're taking the deep cycle marine batteries all around the park wherever we need power. >> i hate capitalism, as i eat a burger king burger. but they criticize the cuban revolution, said the revolution eats its own children. if the revolution can eat its own children, i can eat burger king.
>> help people. everybody's, why are we here? why are we here? what are we going to do? why are we here? i don't know. maybe it's to help people out. ♪ >> it's all volunteer here. see a need, fill it. >> we're going to eat right now. it's dinner time. i would like everything. >> mike check. >> mike check. >> hi, everybody. >> hi, everybody. >> welcome to general assembly. >> the nyc general assembly has been going on since 7:00 and it's currently 10:40 now. it will probably continue until about midnight. as usual.
>> good morning. it's about 8:30, zuccotti park. lower manhattan. i just woke up out of my bed roll, had a little breakfast and i'm ready to occupy. >> if they shut it down today, what would i do? i'd pack up my stuff and we'd both to my girl's parents' house for a minute and just look for work and live life all over again, you know? it's going to be a good day today. it's always a good day. got to make the best out of it. >> so jared is here. you survived. >> i survived. >> survivor, zuccotti park island. you're back. 49 days into this zuccotti park. what does it smell like? don't answer that. answer that after the break.d wn s and make you look older. covergirl and olay floats above lines and makes you look younger. can your anti-aging makeup do that? simply ageless from olay and easy, breezy beautiful, covergirl.
back now to cnn in-depth. 24 hours of the occupy wall street life. we saw this story that you did. we saw that there were three toilets installed in the building near zuccotti park. we kid because we love -- when i say what does it smell like? seriously, that's what people want to know. what's the hygiene like for people who have been there 40 some days now? >> it's good and bad. when you walk around, there are people cleaning up and doing they best to keep it clean, at least the general area. i did go into a couple of tents and i'll be honest, they smelled awful. i mean, the one tent, there was
probably 10 or 12 people living in. it smelled terrible. >> this is really weird, this is the longest time i've been outside new york in a while. usually i would be in new york and go down to see it. you can't, when you're walking up, it's not like -- the odor. >> i didn't feel like, oh, i'm getting close, i can smell it. it's not like that. but, you know, peek inside a tent and you'll wish you hadn't. >> okay. do you have new video of your experience. this one gives a look at -- gives you some idea of how people are earning money. let's take a look at that one. >> you can't spoil my plan, not batman, superman, you, man, i'm a pacman. i'm eating all i can. this is how i'm supporting myself. i sell a politically motivated collection of books. i'm here for $5 if you'd like to support the cause today or if you really like to read, i have a collection of short stories that i sell for $10. >> asking occupiers for
donations is not the most lucrative option. how are people getting by, making money, getting food? >> one gentleman i saw walked around with a giant cauldron and ask for donations. another guy i spoke to, during the daytime he pan handles on the subway. i said, how much money can you make doing this? oh, just 40 or 50 bucks, i just tell people i have diabetes. i said, do you? he said, no,y mom does. i have to be cautious saying that. you don't want to paint with a broad brush that this is everybody that's there, but he is there. >> okay. all right. another interview of this man you found living in a tent with ten others for the last 40 some days. here it is. >> how much longer do you think you can keep this up? >> don't worry. we're staying here. >> you're not going anywhere? >> nope. >> there's no plans to go -- >> if this ever ends, i guess that's when we leave. >> they're going to stay through the harsh winter weather in new york city. it gets cold in new york. >> yeah.
some of them said, well, we made it through this storm and it's inspired us so we can make it. it was one storm. and one night. and it's hard to say. those living conditions were not good. they were cold. there's one -- i don't know if you saw it in the first video there was a pool of water in this guy's tent and a apple was in it. >> what do you think? you were there. come on. >> what do i think? i think it was -- it was fun. kind of. it was sort of interesting. it's like a fraternity, you never want to do it again. you know? >> all right. interesting stuff. thank you very much. we appreciate it. a giant lego man, mysteriously washes ashore. incredible pictures of a python eating a deer. those stories are coming up. tuck this away in the not to bright parent file. there's apparently a group of moms and dads that are giving their kids candy covered in strangers' saliva. i'm not kidding. it has to do with chickenpox.
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break in the identity of the lego man. >> oh my gosh. >> in tonight's saturday night mysteries. >> we have to work on some theme music. i know. lego man. how cool is that? it's like the dream of every 7-year-old boy. right? >> all right. >> walking down the beach and there's this giant lego guy standing right there. right? oh, come on. who doesn't love legos? did you not love legos? >> i love legos. >> let's start from the beginning real quick then for those of you just catching up. this was a week ago on tuesday. siesta key, florida, right in sarasota, this 8 foot tall, 100 pound lego guy happens to show up. everybody is like, where did it come from? who put it there? the theory at the time was, guess what, lego land was open in orlando. so, they're like, oh, a publicity stunt, that must be what happened. not so much. >> i was in sarasota a couple minutes ago. i didn't get to meet lego man on the beach. >> he's at the sheriffs department now.
you can see, okay, on the front of his shirt it says no real than you are. on the back, you can see it, ego leonard. so if you google ego leonard, you will get to a website that's all in dutch so you can't translate most of it. but apparently somebody figured out that the url for this thing is registered to the e-mail of a dutch artist. and his name is leon curr. he was then asked, did you do this? he didn't say no. but he didn't say yes. either. and apparently he was there. sarasota has an annual, the chalk festival. >> just washed up ashore across the ocean? >> i didn't think -- there's the website. i don't think it quite made the trip all the way from the netherlands all the way over here, don. >> that would be quite some trip. >> kind of fun, hey. until somebody claims it, it stays in police custy for 90 days and if nobody claims it the guy who found it first gets to keep it. he says he's going to put it on ebay. >> what is that? >> story number two.
be patient. >> yes, ma'am. i'm sorry. >> be patient. story number two, we'll get to next. do you like oysters? a fan of oysters? >> yes. >> well, there's a big shortage. there's been a big dieoff of the east bay oysters. have you heard of this? escambia bay, east bay in pensacola, florida. apparently it's been such a bad situation that they've brought in some state experts to research and find out. there's been a lot of speculation. people are saying, could this have something to do with the oil spill that happened there? what's going on that all these -- they're seeing just a fraction once they started harvesting these in october that normally they'd get somewhere between 500 and 1,000 pounds every time they go and grab them. guess how much they're getting a day? >> how many. >> like not even 100. that's what they're lucky to get. researchers have gone in there and done testing. unfortunately the results are inconclusive. they've been able to rule out things like environmental problems. it's not the oil spill.
they've been able to rule out disease. they don't know for sure. they're hoping to have more answers in the next week. a lot of the suppliers here, they're kind of telling us they think it's going to be bad for maybe four to five years before they're able to restore some of these oysters beds. >> i hope it's much better. i love oysters. i'm from the gulf coast. do we have time for story number three? >> i think we do. >> do we? >> we have to say this story is not for the squeamish. did you hear about the python in the florida everglades that ate a deer? this thing weighed like 139 pounds. it's 16 feet long. and i just kind of -- you look at the size of the head and think how does this thing get in there? i wanted to use my skull to explain that a snake's jaw is different than a human jaw. you know how we're connected here? >> uh-huh. >> a snake's is open and there's just a very elastic ligament in there. it allows it to move independently and they're able to just kind of jimmy their jaw
then around the side of this -- >> i'm changing the story. this head was found in a python. >> but it could. >> this very head. >> if it can swallow a 76 pound deer -- don. >> oh my gosh. it wasn't. i'm kidding. >> it could swallow an adult. they've been known to swallow alligators, too. >> i'm sorry. i made that up. thank you. strange mysteries. >> it could happen to you. coming up, vermont's governor says look the other way when it comes to illegal immigrants. we'll show you why. and parents are given saliva covered candy to their kids all in the name of chickenpox. those stories in two minutes. don't laugh at me. congratulations. today, the city of charlotte can use verizon technology to inspire businesses to conserve energy and monitor costs. making communities greener... congratulations. ... and buildings as valuable to the bottom line... whoa ! ... as the people inside them. congratulations. because when you add verizon to your company,
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democrat yawney dupri is the first african-american to win a major party nomination for governor of mississippi. if he wins he would be the first black candidate to win state office since reconstruction. mississippi is a deep red republican state. can he pull it off? i traveled to hattiesburg to find out. ♪ >> if you thought that johnny dupri for governor campaign would be celebrating except for johnny dupri. >> i got all the nay sayers you can't do it because. >> couldn't win the primary because he's a black man in a state stigmatized by racism, because he didn't have nearly as
much money to spend as his white republican opponent, lieutenant governor phil bryant. >> you can fill in the blanks. >> but primary voters made history by making johnny the first african-american ever to have a real chance of becoming the governor of mississippi. >> it's awesome, isn't it? isn't it awesome? we live in a place call the america that allows things like that to happen that have never happened before. isn't that awesome? >> is it rerealistic where not much distinguishes one candidate from another. they disagree whether voters should show i.d. at the polls. those twos ideas aren't enough to motivate voters according to professor joseph parker. >> most white voters in mississippi vote for the white candidate and most black voters vote for the black governor. >> he says to win as governor, johnny would have to get all of the black votes and a third of the white. he did in town when he became the first black mayor of hattiesburg. can he do it statewide?
>> if he does, it will be like moses rolling back the red sea. >> i'm here to talk to you about color, green. >> the only color he wants to address is money. something his state, the nation's poorest desperately needs, something his opponent has a lot of. outspending dupri 7-1. but dupri is confident. >> i have a 100% chance of not winning if i wasn't in the race. but i got a 50% chance of winning because i'm in the race. >> reporter: dupri has proven the polls, the pundits and the naysayers wrong before. but with this much at stake, can he do it again? >> election day is this coming tuesday. november 8th. we will be watching. a big issue in some elections, illegal immigration. at several states, as several states impose tough crack downs, governor peter shim lynn has issued a new policy for state
police barring them from arresting people simply for not having proper papers. >> vermont farmers can't survive without workers from outside of america. that's just the way it is. we've got to keep our dairy farms strong. so we have always had a policy in vermont where we kind of looked the other way as much as we can. i just want to make sure that that's what we're doing. >> the governor says immigration issues should be handled by federal agents. a group of parents are reportedly infecting their kids with the chicken pox virus. phoenix affiliate kpho uncovered a facebook group dedicated to trading live pox viruss. members with infected children are reportedly sending infected lollipops and saliva through the mail to parents who want their children to acquire a natural immunity to the disease. doctors call the practice dangerous saying complications can be serious. plus, some videotape of steve jobs has surfaced. we want to tell you about that. it is missing footage from the
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new this hour, an angry herman cain lashing out at reporters after business one-on-one debate with newt gingrich in texas. cain has spent the past several days defending himself against sexual harassment allegations dating back. reporters didn't hesitate to bring it up. cain didn't like that one bit.
>> you all listen, then you all just listen for 30 seconds. i will explain this one time. >> could you sit down? >> no, no. >> it's time for us to trade places, everybody. so mr. cain -- it's time for us to trade places. >> you all, i was going to do something that my staff told me not to do and try to respond. what i'm saying is this. we are getting back on message. >> thank you, mr. cain. >> end of story. back on message. read all of the other accounts. read all of the other accounts where everything has been answered in a story. we're getting back on message. okay? >> politico first reported the report claiming two women accuses cain of inappropriate behavior when he was the head of the national restaurant association. cain has denied any wrongdoing. a new documentary on steve
jobs hits select theaters later this month. it is based on an interview jobs did nearly 20 years ago. the footage was missing until recently. about ten minutes of the interview was used in a pbs miniseries. i'm don lemon. i'll see you back here tomorrow night, 6:00, 7:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern. good night.
museum"? >> "meet the fockers." you grew up in a show biz family. advantage or disadvantage? >> i think there's an advantage because you know what you're going into but then you have to make your own way. >> this is one comedian who has a serious side, too. what's going on with your country? >> i feel like we've inherited a badization over the last eight years and obama in in a very tough position. >> now he plays a modern day robinhood that seems more made up. >> it's a different kind of story. >> i'm in. >> co-star matthew broderick. and two of the most powerful men in hollywood. this is piers morgan tonight." >> ben stiller on the screen is absolutely hilarious. is he hilarious off the screen? no pressure. be funny. you hate doing these things, don't you? >> no, i don't hate -- they're fine, they're fine. i like you. >> how do you know? we don't even know each other. >> i like the idea of you, what i see of you on television. maybe it's not really you. who are you really? >> who do you think i am? >> piers, when did it begin, the need to delve deep into people's souls? >> i like doing that. >> you do. >> you like doing that. that's why i'm interested in talking to you. i have a theory that everyone who is funny has massive ego born from chronic insecurity. you said whatever psychological reasons we want and need approval from everyone in the universe though we feel absolutely unworthy of it. this is my thesis on comedians. >> i was drunk when i said that. everybody is different, everybody has different motivations for doing what they do and why they do it. sometimes it's a combination of different things. i don't think you even know inside all of it necessarily. >> do you like the pressure of having to be funny?
>> no, not at all. >> when you walk down the street, i can't even imagine what it's like. >> i don't consider myself that funny. you made a joke in the beginning but i'm not really -- like i don't consider myself a funny guy in regular situations. >> i'm told you like one of the hardest working guys when it comes to comedy, that you take the craft of comedy very seriously. >> well, i do. i enjoy what i do and i like that process and i take it as seriously as it should be taken, i guess, depending on the situation. sometimes you don't want to think about something too much. you know, we're doing a movie right now that some of the scenes doesn't want to be analyzed too much. so try to just go in, be in the moment, be reacting to what you should be reacting to in the situation but not get too deep. other things you have to get more into it. >> do you know which of your 30 movies has grossed the most?
>> not "envy," i know that. i can tell you the ones that grossed -- >> tell me the ones it's least like to be. what have been your three worst movies? >> oh, gosh, there's more than throw. >> what's beens biggest turkey? >> in terms of money, that movie "envy." "duplex" withdrew barrymore. >> do you know which one is the biggest grosser? >> "the night at the museum" maybe? >> "meet the fockers." $218 million. let's see the clip and see why. >> what did you do? >> nothing. i think he pooped. >> that's the sign for milk. >> what's the sign for sour milk? >> that's because it's from debbie's left breast.
>> that's your biggest box office moment and -- >> what does that tell you about our culture? >> what does that tell you about anything? >> i don't know. i love those movies, i've had a great experience doing all those movies because i got to work with de niro and that was all a dream for me. the first one of those is my favorite. >> really? what was it like working with de niro? >> at first it was pretty intimidating because i'm such a fan of his and his movie growing up in my generation are so iconic. and that was good for the relationship in the movie as we started shooting. and over the years, 10, 11 years since we've been doing the movies, i just like him as a person. >> he has this completely dead pan interview technique. i want to interview to see if i
can actually crack the ice man. he hates all that stuff. >> he's a very shy person. when you get to know him and he opens up, he's a really warm guy. i love him. >> you grew up in a show biz family. advantage or disadvantage? >> well, it depends on what you're talking about. i think it's an advantage if you go into show business because you have a sense of what you're going into and you know the world and you're around it. but then you also have to make your own way. >> i suppose what i meant was i can see how having parents who are in the business can be helpful, but it also means there's no escape. you were almost groomed for this. >> as a kid the world you grew up in is the world you grew up in so you don't know anything else. my sister and i really enjoyed that. it was fun. we got to stay up late. my parents played night clubs and went out to california and did tv shows and it was fun. we liked that more than going to school.
>> they've been married 56 years. >> yeah. >> that's pretty amazing. >> yeah. >> how do you think they've pulled that off? especially in entertainment. it's almost unprecedented. >> they -- i think they truly -- they just truly love each other. i think that's the key there. and they -- i don't know. they're like one organism now, the way they work together. they play off each other. they have so much experience together. and i think they also wanted to make it work. they always had put each other -- they made each other a priority, which i think is something you have to do. >> what values did they instill in you? >> my dad's a pretty hard working guy. i think -- so i think work ethic-wise i got that from him. and they're very good people, my parents.
people come up to me every day and tell me about a thank you note that they sent for something that someone did for them. my dad goes and visits friends when they're sick in the hospital. it's amazing. >> are you like that? do you have that gene? >> no, my dad is like a comedic mother teresa. and it's actually a great example as a son to try to live up to. >> you've been married 11 years. >> yes. >> you don't let your children watch your movies. >> no, that's not true. >> are there some you don't let them watch? >> first of all, they're not that interested in watching. i'm not going to try to get them to watch, you know, "something about mary" or something like that because they're 9 and 6. but they watch the night at the museum movies and kid movies like "madagascar." >> are they showing signs of
comedic genius? >> they're very theatrical. >> do you love being a father? >> i love being a father. yeah. for me it's the best thing. it's challenging, as any father will tell you. >> in terms of your filming schedule, how do you juggle that with being a dad? >> you have to figure out how you're going to do it so that you make sure that you have the family time. right now i'm working on a film out of town so i'll come back as much as i can on the weekends. and then the time off is really important. so we always take the summer we take as much time off as possible as a family and go off together. >> what do you think of the business you're in? >> show business? >> yeah. what do you really think it have? >> i think it's a tough business. i think it's wonderful to be able to do what you love doing.
i think the business around it is very tough and sometimes can be distracting from the actual joy that you get from doing the creative work. >> but you've kind of lived a dream in many ways. is the dream what you hoped it would be? >> the dream is hollow and empty, piers. >> is it? >> hollow and empty and cold. >> my dreams are hollow and empty and cold. >> are they? who do you dream of? >> i dream of having engaging guests. >> whoo! it's the second time i've done that. i think life is what you make it and you're never going to find happiness in outside, you know, people who are going to -- if you're looking for that validation from somewhere outside of yourself, you're never going to be happy. that hollywood thing i think is sort of like a bottomless pit if you really go for that. >> all comedians i meet seem to
wrestle with demons but you don't have many demons. i studied your life fairly carefully -- >> you can't find the demons? >> there's no darkness. >> i'm a boring, demonless person. we all have demons. i think at the end of the day it's, you know, it's what you -- what you do with your life, right, how you take what you have and then you're in the moment. all you have is the moment. so a lot of times in show busy think can you get wrapped up in thinking if that happened or if this happened or this movie did well or that or i got that opportunity and ultimately you're just in the moment always. >> there's no evidence of alcoholism, major drug abuse. >> it's well hidden. >> womanizing. you don't seem to do anything. >> all under the radar. >> you're just a nice fine guy. >> sorry. i'm sorry. >> anything you want to get off your chest? anything you want to confess? anything to chip away at the halo? >> brian and i are having an affair.
i'm in love with his hair. i rub my cheek against his hair every morning. no, things are going good. >> let's take a little break and come back and talk about this new movie of yours, which is going to be a hit i think. >> okay. good. >> i got a feeling. [ mom ] scoor? your father loves your new progresso rich & hearty steak burger soup. [ dad ] i love this new soup. it's his two favorite things in one... burgers and soup. did you hear him honey? burgers and soup. love you. they're cute. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup.
come on, let's storm the castle together. >> oh, like when they went after frankenstein. >> no, it's a different kind of storming, a storming where the peasants take everything back. >> i'm in. >> i'm in. >> well now we're undefeatable, aren't we? >> in stiller's latest movie "tower heist," why are you laughing there is this. >> i was laughing because you always show the person watching themselves. >> we're hoping it's going to be absolutely hilarious. it will be another blockbuster movie. you've made so many of them.
>> not really. >> are you excited about this? >> i'm really excited. it's a genre of movie i've never been in, a heist movie. that was one of the reasons i wanted to do it. >> it's a great caper but it's also fantastically well timed. if you could imagine this coming out with occupy wall street kicking off all over the country, it couldn't be better time. we'll find out if this is a popular topic or not because of your ratings. >> all right, if you want to do it that way. i feel like the movie is reflective of the situation we're in economically and when we started working on the movie it was like that. i didn't think we'd still be in this situation when we were making the film and when the movie came out, i didn't know. >> the plot is nice guys get dummied by fat cad greedy people and they get revenge. >> which is sort of a timeless plot. and it's also like a heist
movie, a fun sort of new york reality-based heist comedy. >> what do you think of the guys down at wall street protesting? does it resonate with you? >> that particular thing that's going on there now with a lot of people trying to figure out exactly what it is, what the focus of it is, but it's definitely an expression of frustration that's going on that i this is very valid in the country right now. >> what's going on with your country? >> oh, wow. >> there's a starting point for you. >> i think we're in a tough place and i think we're -- it's a very complicated situation and i as an actor and just someone who is not an expert don't pretend to know any answers. but i feel like we've inherited a bad situation over the last eight years and obama's in a
very tough position, and i think, you know, it's -- in ways it's been frustrating to see that we haven't gotten further than i think we would have hoped in the last few years. >> has he disappointed you, obama? >> i'm disappointed that we haven't seen more bold decisions from him and a willingness i think to maybe stick to more of what he had in his campaign had said in terms of what he was willing to do. >> he's got very lucky -- >> you know, being president is something i would never in a million years want to deal with. >> you wanted to be a comedic actor and you've done a great job of it. he wanted to be a politician. no one's holding a gun to his head. >> he also wanted to be a comedic actor. sure. who would have known he was going to inherit the situation he's inherited. >> he's a very smart guy. he has so much goodwill and he's been i think slightly reluctant to beat his chest and do what he
probably really wants to do. i'm like, come on, you're the president. can you do what you like. >> but it seems like the reality of the deal making to go on in washington to actually get things done is so complicated that it's hard to know what the actual reality of it is. >> what do you think of the republican field? do you find it of comedic value? are you wary of discussing this? >> i don't see myself as a political commentator or comedian in any way, though i do enjoy bill maher's show. i like the discourse he has on his show. >> they are quite funny some of these republicans. >> i find them funny. rick perry to me is kind of ridiculous. >> you watch him as a serious republican candidate, what do you think?
>> i think i can't imagine him being president. >> but he could be. >> i don't think so. i would think that mitt romney would have more of a chance at this point. >> what about herman cain, the pizza guy? >> i saw him on "meet the press" and i was not impressed. i was not impressed. >> why? >> because he wouldn't answer questions. when they asked about foreign policy, he said i'm going to talk to my advisors. when i get in that position. it didn't instill any confidence that he's got a point of view. >> tell me about haiti now. why does it motivate you? >> i went down the first time before the earthquake and it was in such a bad situation that i wanted to try to do something to help there. and then the earthquake happened and it just, you know, it just -- what they've had to deal with is just, you know, it's
unfair, the natural disasters, the economic situation, the whole history of the country. so when you see people like shawn and people like paul farmer, partners in health, the work they're doing, i wanted to try to support this. that's why we had this auction to raise money. >> what do you think about people who criticize celebrities for helping with stuff like that, the criticism being you're just doing it to promote yourselves? >> i think everybody's entitled to their opinion. but if you're not going to use the access you have to people for something you believe in if you want to say something, you should be allowed to say it. something like haiti, where there's a place where this horrible earthquake happens, six weeks later the attention of the world moves on. if you have a chance to be able to talk on a show like this and remind people what's going on down there, there are 600,000 people still living in tents 12 months later.
>> my beef with some celebrities is they lasso themselves to the causes for a week and get a cheap headline and this situation remains desperate. >> that's why to me someone like sean is so amazing because he was living down there for the better part of a year and walking the walk and doing the work. but do i think if you're not an expert, you're just an actor, if you can say, hey, remember haiti on a television show, it helps. >> well, you just said it. let's have a break and i'll bring out one of your co-stars on your heist caper, matthew broderick. >> all right. hey, man.
life moves pretty fast. if you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. i do have a test today. that wasn't bull [ bleep ]. it's on european socialism. what's the point? i'm not european. i don't plan on being european. so who gives a crap if they're socialists. they could be anarchists. it doesn't change the fact i don't own a car.
>> matthew broderick. 25 years ago you made that movie. >> i know. >> every interview you've ever done since you made that movie you've had to talk about it. you must be sick of it. >> not at all. >> are you being honest? >> sometimes i'm sick it have but i'm used to it. it's like an old sweater. >> have you grown to be affectionate towards it? wait a minute. i'm affectionate toward the movie or passage of time in general? >> both. could you be affectionate to both. but i meant passage of time of the movie. >> oh, i see. >> what do you think of rick perry? >> i'll go there, don't worry. >> "ferris buehler," i'm amazed it's lasted as long as it have. >> it's a classic. >> what do you think of herman cain? and how is obama doing? >> what do you think of herman
cain? >> everything he said. >> this is cnn. this is not some fluffy "extra" interview. >> that's going to be your headline, broderick, what stiller said. >> if i have any fans, i don't want to alienate them. >> how many republican fans do you have you think? >> i don't know, 11. >> and i've got 11, too. >> i want to dig deeper into mr. stiller here. he professes to be this angelic character. >> none of that is true. >> on the set he can be difficult. is that true? >> no. >> a perfectionist? >> well, perfectionist is not bad. he's extremely hard working. he's also right here. >> a very fine line between perfectionist and -- >> ben also directed me. so have i two perspectives on ben. he directed "the cable guy," which i was in. and he was never.
he is a perfectionist, very hard working. >> any tantrums? >> no. >> we were talking about the business of show business earlier. what do you think of it? you've had a long time to assess it. >> yeah. well, it's, you know, it's always been a mix of commerce and art. and those two things battle each other. when both things come together, it's wonderful. i love a big commercial, great movie. >> do you get more pleasure personally from one of your big broadway hits because you have that instant sort of visceral reaction from a audience that you can never get with a movie or a tv show? >> it's very different, yeah. there's nothing -- it's incredibly thrilling to have the audience right there and to do the whole part all the way through. you really feel an ownership to it, which is great. and the adrenaline. ben does that, too.
but then again after i've done that for a while i love the intimacy of a movie where i'm not worrying so much about an audience that's right there and get to be a little more quieter and close up in a way. >> like him you've had a happy, successful marriage. this is unusual. usually most people i interview i have to get down and dirty into the marriage hell. how do you feel about the hollywood trap of endless divorces? >> well, i adore my wife. that helps. and i don't know how we do it. how does one do it? >> we both sort of come from similar backgrounds. both our parents were actors and -- >> that's true. >> both of our fathers were in "taking of the pellham 123. how about that? >> really? >> yeah. >> we both grew up in new york and matthew was successful earlier than i was.
i used to go on auditions to play the understudy in the role he had left two years earlier. >> i heard a lot of things about you, you remind me. you had some horrible auditions. "my cousin vinny." >> they were good the first two callbacks and the last one -- >> what happened? >> joe pesci, he just freaked me out or something. i don't know. i mean, i would audition -- i auditioned for years before i really got any roles and that was probably because i didn't deserve them. i wasn't that good. and then i started to get a little bit more comfortable. >> but is it as terrifying -- >> matthew off the bat was natural and brilliant. he was good. we were the same age. i watched him do his thing and everybody is like this guy is great, i wish i was him, he's so natural and funny and then he did all these amazing roles.
so there was -- there was envy but it was envy and also appreciation because he was so good. >> you saw these guys fluffing all these auditions. did you ever imagine in your wildest nightmares he'd turn into this -- >> it's like a nightmare. >> but it hasn't changed him for the worse, no chink in the armor? >> he keeps on trying to get that chisel. >> he might be as nice as he's saying. you might be. i can't rule out the possibility. >> i'm okay. >> i think i'll have to bring up more people that might be more candid about your temper tantrums. these are the producers and directors and i reckon they'll have a few more stories to tell. d
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i was on the job a few days ago when my homey got shot in the face! >> he's kidding, right? >> if you get shot in the head it's over. >> if you get shot in the face, the bullet will go into your cheek and come out the other side. then what are you going to do? >> i'm going to die. i saw a television programming where a man got shot in the head with a nail gun. he couldn't even chew anymore. he had to put everything in a blender. >> we're joined bit producer and director. gentlemen, welcome. i need some stuff on ben stiller. i have an unsubstantiated rumor. is he as squeaky clean as he makes out? >> as far as i'm concerned.
he's a big movie star. what whatever it is, i'm going to say. >> you can crush mr. stiller with pure box office statistics because your global gross is over $13 billion from all your movies compared to his relatively paltry $5 billion. is there anybody in hollywood who has a better record than that? >> a little guy steven spielberg. >> would he beat that? >> yes. >> maybe. >> yes, he would. for sure. >> tell me about "tower heist." great fun. i watched it last night. i really enjoyed it. it's funny, it's smart. i love the fact that it's so timely. with all this going on, we were talking earlier with occupy wall street. i don't know if you got lucky because all this was bubbling under.
>> wouldn't that be horrible if comcast was behind occupy wall street, a publicity stunt? >> tell me about what's going on down from your point of view. you're an american, you've been around the block a few times and ups and downs in financials but nothing like this. >> nothing like this other than three years ago. but basically i think people are just mad -- they're mad as hell. >> do you understand it? >> not entirely because they don't have a specific message that they're saying. i wish there were a specific message. >> isn't it just a sort of outpouring of general dissatisfaction? >> i think what happened is we bailed the banks out -- first we went after the rich, then we bailed them out and now they're ahead again and i think -- >> and giving themselves whacking big bonuses again. >> and the working class is upset about it. the working class is the majority of the country so
they're upset. and the thematics of that intersect with the thematics of our movie oddly enough. >> who did you base the bad guy on? did you have a character in mind? >> well, madoff we did. but there are so many people like that. there's accountants, lawyers, business managers. you know, any time anyone makes a dollar, they have to give it to someone or they give it to a bank. they give it to someone, it gets lost in a malaise of language they don't understand. as a consequence you can become victim -- >> if i'm a banker, i'm saying hang on, your industry is just as cynical and ruthless as we've been. would you agree with that? >> we're on the entertainment side. >> is hollywood as ruthless? >> i think all business
microcosms have similarities so -- yes. >> i think it's all based on the economics of it. it's a very cold, hard business in terms of how economics work. >> but you have to deliver and these days with money being tight for everyone, someone like ben that can guarantee box office is incredibly popular for now but the pressure to keep delivering is there, isn't it? >> for ben? >> do you feel that pressure? >> well, he's been doing it for years and he's -- >> you better keep at it, ben. >> don't you trip up or we'll be straight on you. >> i'm going to become herman cain's political advisor. >> let me ask you, how important is someone like ben to a movie now? >> put it this way, we developed the movie for several years. it was actually eddie murphy's idea. and there was a few parts to fill and i said to brian how do we get this movie made? and he says to me go get the biggest comedy star in the
world. i said whose that? he said ben stiller. >> the frat master. >> you said i was right for the part. you said you wanted me as an actor. you said nobody else could play the part. >> this guy thought he got it because he's a brilliant actor. >> you're dirty. >> the only way they can get it made. >> no, that's not true. true commercialism. nothing more. >> it's not a cheap movie. but ben and i were on the same page as far as the type of movie that we wanted to make. i thought he was the perfect guy for the part. >> and if it doesn't work out, it's all his fault. >> and matthews. >> it's broderick's fault. >> we'll come back and talk all things eddie murphy. what's he like to work with, what the hell is he going to do at the oscars? i can't wait for this. chaos probably.
it reminded me of "beverly hills cop," that kind of persona back. talk me through eddie. he had the idea for the movie to start with? >> yeah. eddie pitched the idea. i've been wanting to work with him. brian had done five, section movies with him. >> a total of six movies with him. >> we thought this was a perfect opportunity to work with him. "rush hour" wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for eddie murphy. >> and you're doing the oscars. >> i'm producing the oscar. >> and eddie is hosting the oscars. a recipe for comedic carnage. >> i said, brian, if you were producing the oscars, what would you do? brian said think about in the past the three best hosts have been bob hope, johnny carson and billy crystal. basically he was saying to me go get a comedian. and i happen to be looking at eddie murphy every day. >> was ben not available?
>> this was after we wrapped the movie. ben's busy filming multi- -- multiple movies. >> and eddie is a brilliant standup comedian who hasn't done -- >> this is one of the great comebacks of all time. >> we think it will be. >> i saw the interview that was very fine saying it's going to worst oscars, i'm going to urinate over everyone. i'm thinking this is fantastic, ricky gervais on speed. >> what do you think of him? >> he started right about the time i started so i've grown up on him. he's just the greatest. i felt like i had met him and it was like, well, i've just seen a lot of movies with him in it. >> he's one of the greatest come comedic actors i've ever seen. that energy he has.
>> incredible energy and intensity. >> did you feel intimidated working with someone like this? >> sure. because eddie has been -- he's iconic for the last 25 years. and i had never really met him. i met him a couple of times. so to be working with somebody who their body of work is that great and it sort of precedes them, you want to be on your best game when you come in and you don't know what's going to happen. and then he goes and when he goes, it's like you're watching eddie murphy live. you're getting eddie murphy raw like two feet away from you. >> that is intimidating. >> it's also thrilling. it's great. >> ben is one of the few actors in the world who can stand toe to toe with eddie. >> when eddie does his thing, you just want to be there. what i like about him is it's about the scene for him. i've never worked with anybody
who has that much focus and energy. >> you're doing a movie with clint eastwood. >> i am. >> tell me about that briefly. >> well, i'm fascinated with j. edgar hoover. he was really the founder of the fbi, started in 1935. he went and he had something on six different presidents that kept him in office for almost 50 years. so, and he's ultimately -- >> sorry. >> he's a -- >> what happened to tower heist? >> i want to see that movie. >> j. edgar will be coming out a week after "tower heist." >> clint eastwood. >> directed by clint eastwood starring leo dicaprio. >> he's not funny. dicaprio. >> no.
>> he's not supposed to be funny. he's supposed to be mean and -- >> leo in a dress? get leo in a dress? >> we got it. >> who's the greatest actor you've ever seen. >> other than the two of these guys? >> i'm always fascinated, who is the actor's actor? who is the one, if you could cast one leading man in the last movie you ever make, who would it be? >> i can't do it. >> ron howard. >> yeah, ron howard. >> could you do it? can you name someone? >> i can name some dead ones. john cazal. sterling hayden is one of my favorite actors ever. living, you know, i love the movies of the '70s, i'd love to work with justin hoffman, de niro. >> i'm a big daniel day lewis
fan and also sean. >> i haven't worked with sean. i've worked with great actors. russell crow, tom hanks -- >> instantly, he's the best he's ever seen. >> he's amazing. >> surprising, but -- >> comedy, too. people don't really know it but he's a very funny guy. >> marlon brando. >> the freshman. >> that's right. >> tell me about that. >> he's a great actor. yeah. that was wonderful. he's probably -- i might pick him. >> this was in the "freshman," right? >> this was in the "freshman." >> his career, when he was getting fed lines through his ear, right? >> you seem to be getting fed lines. >> that's why i'm -- to do it effortlessly without anybody even realizing. >> he did have that, but he was also extremely present. a little bit like what you describe from eddie. the energy that came out of that man was amazing.
>> i thought you said about it, the reason he had the ear piece was it just -- it made him more spontaneous in a funny way. he didn't like having to think about lines. if someone gave him a line he could be more spontaneous than if he was rehearse in his head. >> he said i'm trying to discover the way to take away the moment of my mind that is -- >> that is brilliant. >> his brain -- he didn't want any of his brain trying to remember something. >> he wanted to take away the moment of his mind? >> i may not have the quote exactly right. >> he probably said that. >> it's the kind of thing he might say. >> then he swallowed a bug. >> then he caught a bug with his chop sticks. >> who's the best you've seen, you think? >> yeah, well, you know, and ben. eddie. and there are a lot of great ones. you know what, also i think it's about the role meeting the actor. there are a lot of wonderful actors and they have to -- it all has to meet. >> give me a name. you've work the with all of them. >> i like working with denzel washington.
thought he was great. i did "inside man" and "american gangster" with him. i've worked can de niro. i'd like to work with sean penn. i'm friendly with him. >> i'm going to be working with denzel washington? >> are you? >> in a movie. my first movie coming up. i'm playing myself in this studio. >> the robert movie? >> yes. apparently it's going to be really good. >> it's going to be great. >> i signed up and i'm going to a movie star. >> congratulations. >> won't be seeing any of you again, but it's been great. it's actually a true story. i think he's fantastic, denzel washington. >> so do i. >> it's going to be a big hit. it's going to be a great comeback. i think for you guys, you've -- it's a great film. hasn't been a good one like that for a long time. >> it is fun. thank you very much. glad you liked it. >> remains. tragically. i threw my best shots.
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