tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN November 17, 2011 8:00pm-9:00pm EST
changed so dramatically. now we're urban. it was just about eyes and vision. >> i've spent time in the 70s. i lived with amazonian tribes. peep don't wear glasses. their eyesight is much better. they're looking at both distant and near objects. they're not forced to read books oar look at blackboards. not only is eyesight better, but hearing is better. our senses have really suffered by the way we live. this is one thing i mean about a mismatch between genes and environment. >> thank you so much for being with us. >> glad to talk with you. >> "ac 360" starts now. >> erin, thanks very much. good evening, everyone. breaking news in the penn state
child sex abuse scandal. late word of a new accuser. his lawyer says jerry sandusky raped him back in the 1990s. there may be more new accusers to follow. possiblily as much as ten. some are claiming abuse dating back to material '80s. now those claim ls bear out and the charges are, in fact, true, it means the abuse went on far longer than first thought, and so, perhaps, did a coverup. jason has more on the new accuser in a moment, but we begin with the possibility of a coverup, or a at the very least a deep culture of silence when it comes to anything that might tarnish penn state football and joe paterno. as we showed you last night, the more we try to answer the questions that everyone wants answers to, the more we run into manifestations of the culture, of the eco system, in which everyone knows everyone, and they're all connected somehow to penn state football. start with mike mcqueary who said he witnessed jerry sandusky raping a boy in the football showers back in 2002. today he's an assistant coach. prior to the incident, he was a
penn state quarterback and teammate of jerry sandusky's son. according to the grand jury report, mcqueary's first call after that was to his own father. the father was anned a mrtd tor at a health clinic to which joe paterno has donated at least a million dollars. the father told mcqueary not to go to police or state child welfare authorities but as far as we know to joe paterno. paterno reported the abuse to his now indicted director, tim curley. according to the grand jury report, the account of what happened got weaker and weaker the further up the line it went. now some of this is very graphic. but we think it's poshtd for you to hear it to understand what we're talking about here. here is mcqueary's version at sunrise by the grand jury. quote, he saw a naked boy, victim 2, whose age he estimated to be ten years old with his
hands up against the wall, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked sandusky. now here's joe paterno's version according to the grand jury. the graduate assistant had seen jerry sandusky in the lasch building, showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy. now schultz vice president and head of the university police. schultz conceded that the report of the graduate assistant made was of inappropriate sexual conduct by sandusky. however, schultz testified the allegations were not that serious. neither curley, who ran the athletic program, nor paterno, none of them saw fit to bring in the police, even though all three either knew or say they were later made aware of a similar innocent in 1998 in which the university and local police investigated and so did the local da and child welfare. back then no charges were filed.
the da later disappeared and is now presumed dead. the university council back then who signed off on the handling of that incident was this man. he went onto become council for jerry sandusky's second mile foundation. he resigned last week. in a place where we said everyone seems connected to everyone else, here's yet another connection. or some say another con applicant of interest. how can joe paterno claim to not have known at that time about that 1998 investigation in the investigation of his right-hand man and potential successor, jerry sandusky. four agencies were investigating explosive allegations. tim curley, his boss, if only in name, new. so how could paterno? and why was a police investigation launched in 1998 and not in 2002? in 2002 not only were the allegations more graphic, but there was a trusted eyewitness, mike mcqueary. because in 1998 the alleged
victim's mother went first to police, but in 2002 mcqueary went first to paterno? mckooqueary is claiming he did k to police. there's no record of a police report. and penn state is exempt from the law. they've been hiding behind a legal wall of silence. they could open up their records, but they haven't chosen to do that: second mile isn't talking either. nor the officials at the zoo where victim one was attending. jerry sandusky was also coaching football. victim's one allegations were what ultimately led to sandusky's downfall, and in yet another case of everything kind of being connected, the local d.a. had to hand off the case to state authorities because here the da is related by marriage to sandusky. his wife's biological brother is sandusky's adopted son. so jerry sandusky had collections. he had clout.
jerry sandusky was idolized. that's what he is called in the grand jury report. she said something that really jumped out at us and we wanted to follow it up today. it's about allegedly happened to her own son at his school. listen to this. jerry was also volunteering at your son's school, helping coach the football team. >> right. >> and he had a lot of privileges at the school. so he could call students out of class? >> i guess. i really think that -- >> do you know what jerry was doing when he called your son out of class? >> i have no idea. >> but he would meet with him? >> i guess, yeah. >> we don't know exactly what happened at many of those meetings. the grand jury report does say they would sometimes go into the conference room or the wait room
without supervision, but beyond that is unclear. what we know is jerry sandusky had access to this boy seemingly whenever he wanted at the boy's school. this man could get this boy out of any class, any time he wanted, and no one at the the school would stop him. yet, when this young man finally had enough, when the mother raised the alarm at the school, jerry sandusky's reputation and connections nearly sequel shed the investigation before it began. listen. >> i met with the guy guidance counselor and the principal. when i did they told me that my son had said some things about, that there was a problem with jerry, and that he didn't know he didn't really admit anything at that point. he said he thought he needed to tell somebody or it would get worse. >> that's a really brave thing for him to have said. >> and then -- yeah, it is.
and then the principal said, oh, you know, jerry has a heart of gold. >> the principal said that to you? that jerry has a heart of gold? >> yes. and i said listen, i was very upset at this point. i was extremely upset. i was basically yelling that they needed to call the police. i said i want you to call the police. call the police right now. i said it like three times. call the police right now. he said no. you need to think about the ramifications of what would happen if i did that. >> she was told she needed to think about the ramifications. the school district offered up a statement that said in so many words no comment. today we sent susan candiotti to the school to search for answers. susan, twhast the latest?
>> you know, anderson, you've been talking about the wall of secrecy surrounding penn state university. by comparison, the high school at the very least where alleged victim number one went, came forward and reportd this to police. so you would think that the school would want to talk about that. we also have questions about the concerns you heard from the mother of alleged victim number one. we thought we would get answers. we were wrong. >> i'm susan candiotti from cnn. yes, you may. thank you very much. i'm here today because you were singled out for praise, actually, by -- i don't need to tell you, by the pennsylvania attorney general and as well as by the grand jury for the school's quick action responding to allegations of abuse. we would very much like to talk to you about that, but also to the principal, of course, also talk about other questions which i'm not sure if you're aware have come to light. thank you. this is from your lawyer. is that him right there?
>> no, ma'am. that is not. >> is that the principal? >> no, it is not. at this time we gave the statement, and we would like to ask you to please leave at this time. we're about to dismiss school, and we don't want you in amongst the students. >> can i leave my card for the principal? >> thank you. may i ask who you are? you work at the reception desk. assistant principal? may i just ask who you are? >> i'm a guidance counselor. >> guidance counselor, thank you. can you speak with us also? >> no, i don't think so. do you know, the mom had also said that the she was told you might want to think twice about doing this because jerry sandusky has a big heart. >> we would ask that you refer to the statement and on the advice of our attorney, we ask that you leave at this time again. our students are about to
dismiss. >> so after being hand that had statement we were shown the door by a security officer. that statement reads in part that they are cooperating fully with authorities, but due to the ongoing nature of this investigati investigation, they're not making any public comments. it was pretty disappointing, anderson. >> is it difficult to get people in the community to talk? >> reporter: constantly. you know, i spent part of my years growing up around here. penn state is beloved. there are many things about the community. it is so intertwined. people are really afraid to come forward. afraid of what it will do to penn state and the community. on the other hand i've been speaking to people privately. a lot of people are very afraid to speak publicly now. i think in the days and weeks to come we're already seeing that beginning to change, and we might see more of that in the days and weeks to come, anderson. >> susan, thanks. let's turn to jason carroll with our breaking news and new accuser and the possibility of many more dating back to the
early '80s. jason? what's the latest? >> reporter: anderson, earlier today i spoke with an attorney who says he's received more than ten calls for people who say they, too, were victimized by jerry sandusky. he's formally representing one young man who says jerry sandusky sexually assaulted him back in the early '90s. listen to the attorney who is now representing him. >> can you tell me when the phone calls started and what was the nature of the call snls. >> well, i can tell you there's a pattern that's emerged and the calls that we've received. in every instance sandusky used his position of trust and power and his ways as a coach and
mentor to groom the families and the children. and after he did would in some way act out on them. either at the schools, at the events, on trips, at a variety of locations. and in some instances, he raped or assaulted them on one occasion, and in some instances it's multiple. as soon as the revelations came fwort that there had been what looked like a cover up or several victims started to make calls. realizing they weren't alone. and we took those calls and we're giving them support. and then as soon as sandusky gave the interview in which he denied the sexual abuse, the
numbers of contacts that have been made with us at our office have really ratcheted up dramatically. when you hear sandusky you really get a glimpse into the mind of the moless tor and the dimension that comes through his denial. he cannot and does not admit what he did to these kids. >> the victim you were formally representing, why do you think he decided to finally come forward? >> he saw the interview, sandusky did. and he felt a mixture of fury, despair and fear. and he shared with me that despair and fear and when i heard him say that he had not abused or raped or violated children i knew that h he had
not only violated me but he put a zager in my heart. solt to the wounds. and he had wounded my soul more than i had ever even realized and he then knew that he had to do something something more and made the call and urged me to carry it forward and speak with and for him. and i'm privileged and honored to do so. >> in the one case you were formally representing what is that man? is he a young man at this point? what is he alleging that sandusky did? >> in some cases it's rape and abuse. in other instances it's more isolated. in all instances they were effectively groomed. in all instances each of these
young people, some older than others now suffered in secrecy and silence and shame. this isn't just about sandusky raping children, this about an institutional failure by many over decades to heed the warning sign ls and to protect the kids, and instead of protecting the kids, many, many adults chose to protect the reputation. >> i'm sorry, go ahead. >> reporter: i was just going to point out anderson that earlier this week, i just want to make a note of this, that when i spoke to jerry sandusky's attorney, i think you remember that interview, he said to me that he was expecting people, other people, to come forward and make claims and he was worried about that. he said i suspect ha anyone early on in his career might want to take advantage of what's
happening now and come forward and make some sort of a claim. so that was one of the points that jerry sandusky's attorney was actually worried about. >> i remember him saying money might be the motivation. those tr the kind of comments that just infur rated according to this attorney, his client and motivated the client to come forward. when i talked to victim number one's mother, she and her child heard jerry sandusky's interview and it angered them and upset them and made her son all the more determined to testify. did the lawyer give any number of how many other alleged victims have approached him? >> according to what he tells me, more than 10. what he's trying to do is trying to do their own investigation into these allegations to find
out if they are credible. but what he has told me so far, he believes that the allegations are credible and he expects the number to grow. add us to our circle. up next, defending jerry sandusky. his lawyer has been all over the airwaves. is that really wise? we'll ask him what he thinks about the case. also a big day for the protest movement. new arrests after a long day of protesters clashing with police. one harsh assessment of the movement tonight. 4 zone moisturizer with roc®retinol and antioxidants. lines, wrinkles, and sun damage will fade. roc multi-correxion. correct what ages you.
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if at this point, there could be more victims out there. tom, first of all this new -- these new allegations, how does this complicate his defense? >> well, anderson, this is deja vu for me. i don't know what happened or didn't happen. i'm not involved in the case. but in the michael jackson case, allegation after allegation kept surfacing and the media went crazy. they said he supplied a cancer stricken child with alcohol for sex. they said oral sex went on in the shower. they said things went on in a pool. they said things went on in the bedroom. it was one charge after the other. i cross examined every one the accusers. they fell like dominos. they've made contrary statements to investigators. they made contrary statements in lawsuits. they'd been fired by michael jackson.
it was just a debacle as far as i was concerned and st jury felt the same way. so they got a grand jury indictment, but there's no judge and no defense attorney and no cross-examination. all this stuff has been leaked. everything is shocking. we don't know what the other side of the coin is going to look like. >> it's also porn to point out, and other attorneys pointed this out in the last few days. there have been other incidents in the past. the late 80s or early 90s, in which there was a huge mass hysteria, and ultimately there was nothing there. >> there was also a case in bakersville california, north of los angeles, which was very similar. all the children step fard. all of the people were convicted. they went to prison and eventually all the children came forward and said they were asked to make the statements. it never happened.
people were released. people were rated. this is a great time for the prosecution. eventually the defense strategy will catch up. i don't know what's going to happen, but you can't get too carried away with what's happening at the moment. >> at the same time we know jerry sandusky has given an interview in which he has admitted showering with chirn, he claimed, you know, there was horseplay involved. snapping of towels. he described a naked little boy sliding down a thing -- sliding down in between the showers on with all the water on, all the sprays on. you also have mcqueary's testimony or a summery of his testimony, which he says he saw a little boy in the shower being raped by sandusky. those seem to be facts, no? >> no, they're not necessarily facts at all. there was a disgruntled fire
employee of neverland ranch who said he saw michael jackson doing oral sex in the shower. they were practically laughing at him when the cross-examination was over. he bragged he was going to get a mercedes from jackson. he made con statrary statements many people. you don't know what the flip side of it is. it's easy to make an allegation. it's easy to jump on the bandwagon when everybody is coming out with shocking testimony. why is everybody getting a lawyer, and why is everybody coming out at this late date? i assume they want lawyers baur they're planning civil lawsuits. how do you know the people weren't contacted by the lawyers who said you can make a lot of money, you know, hook up with me. let's jump in front of the media. i'm saying it's a possibility. >> do you think sandusky made a mistake in giving an interview? do you think his lawyer made a mistake giving the interview? >> yes, i do, ands son. he wasn't prepared for that kind of give and take. i think it's very dangerous to have your client make statements.
the the client is going to do it at this stage, it should be a prepared statement. not after give and take with a skilled journalist. he looked bad. i don't think he quite knew how to cope. >> not with a skilled interviewer. it's not as if he was being asked a gotcha question. he was asked very basic questions like, are you a pedophile? do you find children sexually attractive, and his answer certainly seemed to raise more eyebrows than they settled. >> well he's got to be aerv innous wreck at this point. i just don't think they was prepared for that kind of forum. i tell you, i can already see where the defense is going with a lot of this. they're going to say he's been on a college campus dealing with people. he's a drunk at heart. that's been his career. huge locker rooms and big showers. they're going to analogize it to a camp for boy where is the counselors take care of these
young men, get them into the shower, keep them supervised. they're going to say it all happened but it never went to the level of sex. that's going to be the defense, i believe. >> i appreciate your perspective. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, hundreds of people arrested in occupy protests here in new york city. more going on tonight. events around the country marking the two-month anniversary of the movement. we get the live update from the foot of the brooklyn bridge. run even futures and 4x. complex options, done. [ cellphone rings ] thank you. live streaming audio. advanced charts. look at that. all right here. wherever "here" happens to be. mobile trading from td ameritrade. number one in online equity trades. plus get up to $600 when you open an account.
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show of force by occupy wall street protesters. here in new york demonstrators mark the two-month of their cause. >> anderson, in syria human rights groups say security forces killed at least 13 people today and arrested dozens. they described explosions and gunfire in the suburbs of damascus. meanwhile, army authorities attacked a youth group office. italy's prime minister won a vote of confidence by a huge margin a day after taking office. the senate voted 281 to 85 to approve his -- on government. lawmakers grilled steven chu for five hours. chu defended the decision and said politics did not influence the approval process. republicans meanwhile allege the company received the loan
guarantee because a major investor was a major fund-raiser for president obama's 2008 campaign. on wall street the euro's debt troubles. the dow lost 135 points. across the country, marches, demonstrations and arrest mark the two-month anniversary. in new york 300 protesters were arrested across the city. seven police officers were hurt during confrontations with protesters. thousands of protesters marched the brooklyn bridge this evening. we're going to get a live update from there in just a moment. demonstrators march in mayor cities. los angeles, washington, d.c., denver, atlanta. in portland, oregon, police arrested 25 protesters, citing them for disorderly conduct. protesters also marched through miami late this afternoon. but the biggest turnouts and the most arrests are here in new york. mary snow joins us live from the brooklyn bridge. what are you seeing out there right now? >> well, anderson, i can't give you an official count, but there
were so many protesters that it took them about two hours to make their -- to get to the foot of the brooklyn bridge. the last ones just crossing in the past half hour. we see protesters coming back, returning. it's been fairly peaceful, capping off a day of protests. the last arrests were about 65 at the foot of the bridge before this march began. but it was very peaceful as protesters were taken away with kind of a symbolic arrest, civil disobedience before the march began. some protesters coming off now say they're going back to the park for a general assembly to meet. they'll plot out the next move. one thing they are vowing is they are not going away. anderson? >> is there a sense of what they do have planned for the next few days? >> for the next few days, no. and one of the big questions that i've been talking to
protesters about is, do ef another physical spot they want to occupy now that they've been evicted from zuccotti park? this protest was planned because of the two-month anniversary. they said they wanted to get through the day and bought out what comes next. they said they planned something in december about taking back homes. obviously the big message of the protest has been against corporate greed, against big banks, and of course against people getting thrown out of their houses. but in terms of the next few days, it's unclear. >> more on the occupy protests ahead. reactionscan be extreme. coming up, two very different vumts. also ahead tonight t 21-year-old man accused of shooting at the
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more now on the faceoff between occupy wall street protesters and police in new york. tonight reports of at least 164 more arrests. some of them on the brooklyn bridge. that's on top of at least 177 arrests earlier today. some of the clashes have been bloody. thousands of protesters turned out to mark the two-month anniversary of the movement. earlier today protesters tossed aside barriers around the park in the heart of the financial district. that's where they were camping until wednesday morning when police evicted them. the state supreme court upheld the ban. new york congressman peter king has been a fierce critic of the protester. >> you try listening to them and they make almost no sense. these are people who are living in dirt. these are people involved with drugs. there was violence. there was rape. life full of frustration.
they should go see a psychiatrist. they're angry people. they're on the outside and screaming. you don't do it by living in dirt. you don't do it by carrying out rapes. you don't do it by carrying out anti-american slogans. >> congressman king made the comments yesterday and called a lot of attention. i spoke to him earlier tonight. >> congressman king, you were quoted as saying the occupy wall treat protesters are basically anti-american tone. do you standby that? >> i certainly do. first of all, many of us have been e convicted. the remarks that were being made. also the way the entire tone of the demonstration of zuccotti park. living in their own feces and urine. to me there was nothing admiral about the demonstrators. this is nowhere comparable to
gandhi or martin luther king. >> supporters say he took many, many years to hone the message that many now think of as the man of gandhi. you're talking about isolated incidents here and there. but overall, the vast majority of the bro tests were peaceful, and people are just expressing themselves. >> i'm not saying they weren't peaceful. 157 were arrested. i'm talking about the conditions at zucotti park. it was filthy. it was dirty. the health department in the city felt it was a chance of disease spreading. again, to me, any group that wants to be taken seriously should not be conducting itself that way. to me there was nothing about that them would resonate with the american people. to me they were people living in their own fiflt. >> you're supporting to specific
examples. there was an exchange shown onli online but is it? a lot of people say it was the same thing done to the tea party. they're all calling for x, y or z. >> if you look at zuccotti park, there's nothing isolated about the conditions this which these people wanted to live. to me there was absolutely nothing there that was with middle america, if you will. i didn't see the purpose. i had no idea why the media was covering it the way it was. you have a small, tiny percentage of people taking over a park, sleeping over a park, sleeping in their own feces and urine. that became a national movement. i don't see the nexus between what they were doing and anything else. >> if that did start to feel candidates, or if it moved
beyond occupying a physical space, is that something, "a" a that you can imagine happening, and "b" is that something that there would be in value in happening. >> if they feel strongly about plit value views, absolutely get involved. have peaceful demonstrations. >> the general argument seems to be a tremendous desparty when it comes to individual wealth in the country and the corporations have gotten too greedy, too cozy with washington. do you agree with any of that? >> there's always certain things you can agree with. i don't own any corporate stock myself at all. i'm not necessarily that partisan republican. others think there's so much corporate power. the fact is you fight that out in the political world. you don't occupy a park. >> they say this is civil disobedien
disobedience. >> i don't consider civil disobedience to be violating other people's rights. the people went and listened to drones and bugles all night. people with small businesses down there losing money and having laid people off because of what was being created there. i don't think it's right to be attacking police officers. but to have people breaking down barricades. there's a difference between a peaceful civil disobedience. what happened today was not any way peaceful. it wasn't civil. it was violation of the law. >> congressman, i appreciate your time. >> anderson, thank you very much. >> the occupy wall street movement is inspiring strong we actions on both sides. joining me now is van jones, community organizer and president of rebuild the dream.
how do you respond to the points that congressman king raised? >> i think he should be ashamed of himself. he never went down to the park. i was there myself personally. he said over and over and over again these smears, these lies that they're living in feces, whatever, that's completely made up. if you actually had been down there they were keeping it very clean. they had some of the best kitchens in new york city set up down there. this is ab kind of dismissal by people in power that's going to make the generation more alienated. these young people are heros. everybody denounces it. the protesters denounce it. the mayor himself said today that these protests today were largely responsible. they're heros because they're sticking up for the american dream. he said they're un-american. they are saying we don't have jobs. they're saying we used to believe if we worked hard we could get some place. now we have young people graduating with a ton of debt.
they did what we told them to do. now they're praying for an unpaid internship. also they're not against rich people. if you talk to them, they're not bad at economic winners. they're mad at the economic cheaters. that's the problem. they feel, listen, if you want to buy a yacht, they're not mad. but these people are mad when people try to buy a congressperson. you buy a yacht, fine. don't buy a congressperson. there's a generation of young people here and struggling people standing with them that feel the american dream has been turned on its head. the people have been declared too big to fail on wall street no matter what they do, they can't fail. the rest of us, we can't succeed. that is wrong. we should focus on what they're complaining about and stop complaining about them. it's early on in the movement and often times it takes a while
for the movement to coalesce around the message. but there does seem to be confusion about what exactly the protesters want. what specifically. if you say you are going to field candidates? are you going to have a list of demands? it does not seem that there is stuff to coalesce around. >> well, listen, i gre that we are now in a different phase. i don't speak for occupy wall street. i support them. and the people sleeping on the streets and getting pepper sprayed, they can speak for themselves ls. i think we're at a stage where we have to move from anger to answers. from pointing out problems to pointing out solutions. at some point you have to go from protests to politics. some people are going to say we are going to run for office. and rebuild the dream. >> you say that's the only logical next step. >> you have to keep the protest
going. even the people who are inconvenienced by the protests say they understand. the issues they're poining to are becoming more, not less. so i do think a section of them will turn towards politics. we are recruiting, looking for 2,000 candidates to run for office under the 99% manner. you will see this movement before. >> are you doing yourselves any favors? and i know you're not organizing this thing, but by having demonstrations and inconveniencing people and you see police officers being hurt and people being pepper sprayed. when i talked to protesters before, they say isn't a great tradition of civil disoe bead yens in the country? it was about targeting specific laws that were unjust. colored only lunch counters or buses. it's not as if these protests are against specific laws they are trying to protest, is it? >> well, first of all, i think
it would be strange if we expected the young folks and struggling folks to come forward and say here is my proposal for drif tim erivative reforms. when the people came in they didn't say here is our strategy for the supreme court. they said it's wrong. we don't think we're being treated right. the rest of society stepped up with legislation, with litigation and with the solution. you have been now, we have people sitting on a white hot stove of economic pain for three years, and nobody was talking about anything in washington, d.c. but cut, cut, cut and this phony default crisis. these young people went down to the scene of the crime against the future wall street with tents and blankets and changed the conversation. now we have to change the conditions. that's a long walk. they started off in the right
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>> thanks, anderson. tonight we bring you back to the all-time favorite guest, although not for entirely good reasons. they're going to talk live and unleash about the biggest stories of the week. first up, former minnesota governor jesse ventura, a man never afraid to speak his mind. tonight he's very fired up, indeed, about up wall street. then demure, first lady of late night chelsea handler will have something to say about demi moore and ashton kutcher. this could get quite lively tonight. anderson, back to you. >> coming up, a guy who called 911 because his iphone wasn't working. yeah, we have the tape. you're not going to believe this. thank you. hello? test drive's not over yet. [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. [ louder ] hello? but we still need your signature. right now during sign then drive it's never been easier to get the all-new passat,
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time now for ridiculist. we told you about this guy last week. he called 911 because his iphone wasn't working properly. christmas came early this year because police have just released the 911 tapes. >> emergency 911, kendall county. >> yeah, why is my iphone not work sng. >> what's not work sng. >> my iphone, my whole phone's not working right now. >> your home phone is not working? >> my whole phone. my iphone is not working. >> your iphone? okay do you need police or fire or ambulance? >> no, i don't. i just want to know why the hell this thing is not working. >> oh, but that is only the beginning, because the guy called 911 not once, not twice, five times. here's a little sampling from call number two.
>> do you have an emergency, sir? >> yes i do. my emergency is my [ bleep ] phone don't work. >> okay, what's your address? >> one oh-blah blah blah. >> i did not understand that. >> if you hadn't guessed it by now, it is possible that this gentleman may have been enjoying some beverages on this particular evening. i'm just thinking. 911 dispatchers are really trying to help him, but he's just getting more and more frustrated. here's a taste of call number three. >> how about i smash this phone on the floor, okay? why can't i dial the numbers i used to be able to dial? >> that is, i do not know that. >> at this point he's threatening violence against his own property, which would only leave his phone as smashed as he sounds. call number four. do you have an emergency? >> yeah, i'm trying -- they told me to get the iphone enabled.
>> okay. what's your address and we can have an officer come out and help ya. >> that's really a stupid response. >> if you give us your address, we can have an officer come out and maybe he can help you. >> he can't help me. >> how do you know? >> because they'll shoot me with a gun. >> oh. have you been drinking tonight, sir? >> no. >> okay. >> no, i'm just not very smart. >> i'm not drunk, i'm just not very smart. is there an app for that? at the very least, that someone heck of a slogan for a teacher. somebody trademark that puppy. call number five? >> you're going to have an officer come over help me find out why my phone's not working? >> yes, because i can't help you. i don't know why your phone is not working, sir. >> well, that's pretty dumb. >> on whose part? >> on everybody's part.