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high-definition video now, it looked like tupac was standing right there. >> this is great. i love this stuff. i got to let you go. maybe you will disappear on me again. i'm sure. >> you'll be back. >> when you need me the most. >> thanks, chad. top of the hour. i'm suzanne malveaux. i want to get you up to speed. they spent $800,000 of your money on skits, clowns, mock award ceremonies. this hour we will hear their answers about the spending scandal. we begin hearings on the actions of the general services administration employees. the agency supposed to make sure taxpayer dollars are spent wisely. instead, they threw this lavish conference in vegas at taxpayer expense. tornadoes ripped through the
midwest. six people in one hard-hit oklahoma community died. ten states in the midwest and plains got slammed by the storm system. people are cleaning up trying to get back to normal today. now, those who made it through the storms, they say they're not taking anything for granted. >> you don't know when the last time you're going to tell somebody you love them and stuff or see somebody and it's one of those things. >> just like that everybody was gone. everybody. i mean, everybody. don't matter about what we have, we're here. >> national weather service tells us it was an ef-3 tornado that hit woodward, oklahoma, which means winds were at least 136 miles an hour. cnn has joined several newspaper and broadcasting companies asking a florida judge to reverse last week's order sealing george zimmerman's court records. the motion argues that the court must decide if closing the records prevents, quote, a serious and imminent threat to justice. zimmerman, who is scheduled to return to court friday for a
bail hearing. an oklahoma judge today entered not guilty pleas for jake england and alvin watts. they are accused of killing three people and wounding two others during a shooting spree in a predominantly black neighborhood of tulsa. it happened easter weekend and england's mother is pleading for this not to be prosecuted as a hate crime. she herself is in jail. she's written a letter to a tulsa defense attorney saying, quote, our family does not hate black people. two of my beloved grandchildren are african-american. the man accused of killing 77 people in a rap page in norway claims he acted in self-defense. the trial got under way today for anders brevic in oslo. he raised a clenched fist and said he did not recognize the authority in court. he is charged in a bomb blast that left eight people dead, a shooting spree that killed 69 others. many of them were teens and young adults.
we are continuing to follow the scandal that has erupted at the secret service. 11 agents and officers have been put on leave and they're under investigation. they're part of president obama's advance security details for the summit of the americas in colombia. they're accused of meeting with prostitutes at a hotel in cart h hain ya. the president says he's going to be angry if the alleges are prove true. >> what happened in colombia is being investigated by the director of the secret service. i expect that investigation to be they are thorough and i expect it to be rigorous. >> there is also an investigation into the behavior of at least five members of the military who were on the trip to columbn colombia. the allegations including heavy drinking and engaging in prostitution. fran townsend was homeland security adviser under president bush and she's joining us via skype from new york.
i want us to talk a little bit about this. you and i have had the privilege, the opportunity, to travel with the president. we have been dealing with the secret service for years now. we know these guys. we've been around these guys. the culture seems to be work hard, play hard, but when you're on duty, you snap in line, you get in line, and you're all about the president and protecting the detail there. give us a sense of whether or not this is a culture of this community, the kinds of allegations that we've seen today. >> suzanne, it's not part of their culture, which is what makes it so sort of stunning to those of us who have worked with them. this is actually a culture -- you know, these agents -- many of the agents are married. there are men and women who are agents. they are family folks. every year the president would have been event where the agents would bring their families and children with them to the white house. it's a very tight culture and a very disciplined one which is what makes this so unusual. you know, when you traveled,
suzanne, on behalf of the u.s. government, much less as part of the president's detail, you represent the united states, and that's drilled into you. you're on duty when you're traveling on behalf of the u.s. government whether you're working or not, and so it really is sort of an anathema to me that such a thing would have happened. it's such a lapse of judgment, such a lapse of discipline and sort of good order and discipline as at the say in the military. >> fran, is there a difference between the advance team? we know the advance team scouts out, looks at the situation before the president arrives, and those who are actually a part of his detail? >> well, you know, suzanne, they're not any different in terms of the organization, but they do have more down time. when you're traveling with the president, those schedules are brutal and you're constantly on the move. so there is no down time when the president is actually in country, but when you're doing the advance work, those teams are there for a period of time prior to his arrival, and they do have a good deal of down time, but they're not expected to engage in this type of
behavior. >> one of the things i think folks should know is when i was traveling with the secret service, they really do protect everyone who is in their sight. i was traveling with first lady laura bush at the time back in may of 2005 in the middle east and she was met with protesters. we were going to the dome of the rock there, and they were dangerously close. they were yelling. there was pushing going on. a lot of tension and literally secret service agent -- two of them picked me up off the ground, literally threw me into that mosque with plas bush at the time. they made no distinction. it's really those moments when you're happy that you're with those guys and you don't want to be with anybody else. it seems as if that is something that is important, that these guys are even more vigilant off american soil. >> that's exactly right. and, you know, there's a potential counterintelligence problem. everyone who travels particularly in the intelligence and law enforcement community are told to be very cautious about and aware of their surroundings, to be cautious about being approached by
stwrang e stran strangers, and prostitutes are often used as an effort to infiltrate the inner circle. for so many reasons this wan an example of poor judgment and a breakdown in discipline. you can expect no matter how this turns out, all those agents will be disciplined. >> there have been occasion where is is a breach has occurred. i remember a trip to africa with president bush back if 2003, there was actually a stowaway who joined the white house press corps, boarded from south africa, took the bus to the hotel, got on the press plane, landed in uganda. wasn't until we were in our workspace that a couple reporters noticed he didn't belong. he was acting strange. secret service approached him, he started screaming, they arrested the guy. if there had been one more breach in the layer of security, he could have been in the pool of reporters that get very close to the president. how important is it that this is sealed tight here? are there still concerns that there are some ways of breaching the security because of the
secret service? >> i think it's important for people to understand what we're talking about here are the exceptions, the very rare exceptions. but, look, the protection of the president and the cabinet and first family is done by human beings, and are there opportunities for mistakes or errors? absolutely. but that's why you have multiple layers, so that you hope each time someone has to pass through an additional screen there's the opportunity to identify a threat or a breach of security and correct it. you know, no one was hurt here. this is an example of poor judgment, and they'll go back and they'll do a lessons learned, and they will incorporate those lessons learned into new training. this really is an exception far from the norm. >> all right. important point. fran, thank you very much. good to see you. >> thanks, suzanne. $800,000 in taxpayer money spent by the agency that is supposed to look out for taxpayer money. well, this hour government officials involved in that lavish vegas conference are going to be called on to testify about all the spending that happened over there allegedly.
a house committee begins the first hearings on this excess spending of the general services administration. here is some of the things they spent money on. $59,000 for an audio visual firm. $75,000 for a bike building exercise. $9,000 for colored theme tags. also spent money on clowns, a mind reader, commemorative coins, music videos. dana bash is covering this hearing. it's scheduled to begin at the bottom of the hour. so dana, what do we expect, first of all, from the committee chair in bringing these people forward? >> reporter: well, i spent some time with him yesterday on a sunday in here and back there, which is where the real work gets done, suzanne. what darrell issa said to me is that he wants to find out about not just this particular conference which has now become infamous in 2010 that you were talking about, but even more broadly excess spending at the
gsa. but on this particular conference one of the things that he and other members of congress have said that really bothers them is that the inspector general who is going to be a witness here told the then administrator of the gsa about this investigation, and many of the findings 11 months ago. one of the questions that at least the republicans have is who inside the administration knew? >> we do not have, if you will, the specifics of who told who in the white house something. that's to be discovered, but, again -- >> reporter: and that's probably what you're going to be asking martha johnson. >> let's remember, when you're a political appointee, you're there for two reasons. one is you have the confidence of the president to execute, and the second is you're the eyes and ears of the president through the process, the chief of staff and other individuals. we want to know where that process failed. >> reporter: now, part of what's going on here, members of both parties say, is there's a real
cultural problem at the gsa. this is the agency that's supposed to be making sure our tax dollars are spent correctly and wisely, but they have been apparently spending extravaga extravagantly. that's one of the things they are going to ask the inspector general. we should note spending also went up during the bush years and the republican year admits that that is the case and says he will eventually look into that. the people who are testifying now really are focusing on the current administration. >> dana, want to let our viewers know what we're watching here on one side there, we're looking at some videos of people who are kind of making fun, i guess, a talent competition of all the spending that's going on there. who do we actually expect will be testifying today? who is going to be in the hot seat? >> reporter: we can show you because the hot seats happen to be right here. i mentioned the inspector general, brian miller. he will be sitting here. he's already here. we saw him come in. martha johnson, who was fired as gsa administrator two weeks ago. this is going to be a key witness just really in terms of the drama here.
jeff neely, he is the acting commissioner for the whole pacific region of the gsa. he's really the one who set up this conference in very, very specific ways made decisions to spend a lot of the things you were talking about like that $75,000 bike exercise and did it without contracts apparently, with no bidding and contracts. those are according to son-in-law of the transcripts we have seen from the gsa inspector general investigators with him. we're told he is expected to take the fifth amendment. he is going to say that, you know, because he doesn't want to incriminate himself, he's not going to want to testify, but give you an irony alert here, the committee, the republicans on the committee, subpoenaed him to come here from california to testify at this hearing on excess spending. so they're asking him to come here spending money to talk about spending too much money. >> yeah. and we might not hear anything from him. >> reporter: exactly. >> dana, thank you very much. appreciate it. here is a rundown of some of the stories we're covering over
the next hour. first, we're going to show you how one couple survived the deadly tornadoes that ripped through oklahoma this weekend. and more americans are saying, take this job and shove it. that's what the economy -- a sign that the economy is actually improving. then the worst assault on afghanistan's capital in months hits a heavily guarded part of the city. get thrown by curveballs. ♪ this is the age of knowing how to get things done. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing.
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2009. he's a medical doctor who previously worked for the world health organization combatting aids. we know that he has advanced degrees in medicine and anthropology from harvard. he chaired the medical school's department of global health and social medicine. zellic had announced his retirement in february after five years at the world bank. since the world bank began in 1944, the top job usually going to an american. it's part of an informal agreement with the europeans. so they've got their new head. dust is still settling in afghanistan after an 18-hour assault by insurgents. so this was kabul just this morning. these explosions came after periodic bursts of gunfire. lasted well into the night. it happened in the district that houses government offices, foreign embassies, including the
u.s. embassy. afghan authorities say that they have killed all but one of the attackers. he has been captured. the taliban is claiming responsibility for these attacks. the captured insurgent says he worked for the knower to with s us -- notorious haqqani network. some of the attacks were launched from high rise construction sites. that is exactly what happened when i was in afghanistan last september during attacks on the u.s. embassy and nato headquarters. >> reporter: six guys in a vehicle pulled up. five of them were wearing burqas to try to disguise themselves as women. they took the burqas off, brandished their weapons, and then they all entered this building. six police officers guarded this building. you can see this is where they stayed. the television, the remote control. you also see the bedding here. this is where the terrorists on the second floor first confronted the police. they shot one officer, and then
they threw him over the ledge. here on the 12th floor is where the final showdown was. there's evidence of it everywhere. you've got these spent shell casings. you have pieces from explosive grenades, and if you take a look around, there are hundreds and hundreds of holes on the wall here. clearly a fierce fire fight that went on here for hours well into the morning to get the terrorists. i'm told this is where the last terrorist was killed. you can see the old scarf that's left behind, holes in it, an empty water bottle. an old shoe with bloodstains and on the wall evidence of him being shot here. even splattered brain matter in the gravel. now, i want to give you some perspective. we're in the building on the 12th floor on the east side. here is what the terrorists saw. if you go beyond about a half hour, you see that orange building. that is the u.s. embassy. if you go over to the left, the white building, that's the nato compound. this essentially gave them a clear shot to continue firing throughout the evening.
>> so the question now is how could the afghans let it happen again? afghan president hamid karzai blamed an intelligence failure on the part of the of a gaps as well as nato. elsewhere in afghanistan our nick payton walsh is taking us on a joint u.s./afghan air assault south of kabul. they're on a hunt for militants in taliban territory. >> reporter: a last stand in a taliban heartland. americans and afghans launch an air assault before dawn into a remote hostile district they have not set not in for six months. an incredibly flat, exposed space about a mile away from a village where there are two high value targets the americans want to arrest. america's withdrawal is meant to awaken afghan forces to take over these manhunts, but as they push into the village in search of the american's most wanted
local militant, the afghans seem pretty casual. some doors stay locked. their prey likely vanishing when they hear helicopters. >> they hear the birds coming in and they usually flee immediately. >> reporter: as they search a former weapons cache, they become the targets. >> where is it at? where is it at? >> no [ muted ] clue. >> we got -- >> reporter: clearly insurgents are keen to defend this building or at least attack the americans as they get near it. the shots come in close fired from a distant tree line. the afghans spring into life firing a rocket. and then move to flank the insurgents who keep taking potshots. >> they don't like me running. >> reporter: warning flares from
a tank, aircraft massing above stop the gunfire. and distant figures, probably women and children, appear meaning a counterattack is too risky and the fight over. >> i think the one in the white is a child, to be honest with you. >> reporter: but keen warriors make for poor police. riding motorcycles is illegal, and they have to decide on a punishment. should they shoot the fuel tank? perhaps not. they let the tires down. and then deliver what is here a rare encounter with afghanistan's government. that night they leave and the taliban surely return knowing that without american support the afghan state's relevance here slips further into the distance. nick paton walsh, afghanistan.
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from texas to minnesota today, folks there in recovery mode cleaning up after storms and tornadoes. the hardest hit community, woodward, oklahoma. six people died there, three of them children. rob marciano tells us it's not the first time a tornado tore through this town. >> reporter: it's been 65 years since the big one hit woodward, oklahoma. in 1947 more than 100 people died in a twister here. back then charles lived 30 miles away, but he remembers it well.
>> i was 10 years old and i seen it when it wiped out this whole town. >> reporter: but now he lives in woodward and this latest tornado hit his home blasting into the living room, blowing off the roof, and ripping the house inside out. look how the tornado actually shoved this house off the foundation. it's tilted by 20 or 30 degrees. mr. hoge and his wife got warning. they came out of the house into a backyard. there's a valuable commodity out here, a storm cellular. that door is heavy. you're a strong man. >> you just do it. >> paul lord's family didn't have a storm cellar or any basement and now they're lucky to have their lives. the tornado threw paul out of the house and onto the street. >> and i was laying down there on the curb and i looked up and saw the house gone. i didn't know what to do.
and then neighbors come in, started pulling bricks off and tilting walls up and everybody started coming out. >> reporter: what kind of injuries did you sustain? >> i got a big gash in the side of the head with a flap laid over and laid open, and they stitched that back up. >> reporter: his grandson had deep cuts, too, after getting buried under appliances. >> that's about where the bath roop was at and that's where he was underneath in the tub and had the washer and dryer on top of him. >> reporter: paul got into a battered truck, drove himself and his bleeding grandson to the hospital. bandaged but still stunned, they are getting a helping hand with the cleanup. searching for keepsakes are a low priority. what are things you want to find in this rubble? >> i found him, my son, my daughter, son-in-law, my grand babies, my wife.
everything else is just brick and stick, and they're all easily replaced. >> we want to bring in chad myers here. we saw some amazing pictures from the storm chasers there. what actually happened? what can we expect? >> well, what we saw and the numbers that are on the screen and maybe you have heard all weekend, 135 tornadoes. that's all going to be reduced. there were so many tornadoes on the ground for a very long time that it's the same tornado. one tornado may have been reported 35 separate times watched by 35 separate chasers, maybe affecting 35 different communities. it was on the ground for so very, very long. there's some storm chasing video. you don't see that every day. two tornadoes on the ground at the same time. rob marciano experienced that as well. here is what i'm talking about and why dobl we're going to see that record-breaking day of how many hundreds of tornadoes because if you take a look at how the tornadoes went down and how the reports went down, every
little red dot is a report of a tornado. i am convinced you if go boom, boom, boom, 20 tornado reports right there probably the same tornado on the ground for a very long time and that's what we're going to see and if you want to go online, go to the ireports. we're still getting ireports of a tremendous, tremendous tornado. it was a violent day because it was so very warm. very warm in boston as well. current temperature in boston 82. why do we care? the boston marathon is going on. if you're still running by 1:00, about 87 degrees. 88 by 3:00, and, you know, i would still be running by 5:00 or 6:00. i saw a t-shirt yesterday and i saw one that said i walked the entire breadth of the appalachian trail. not the length, just the breadth. that's about how far i could go. >> that's okay if you're out there walking or running, i wish you all the best. that's life. but in the 80s, that's some tough stuff. we hope everybody is hydrating
and staying well. if you have to step off, you step off as well. >> 16% of the people canceled. they said i can't do it in 85 degrees. >> that's a tough thing to do. all right, chad. good to see you. here is a run down of some of the stories we are working on. next, why neighborhood watches need to be careful about who's guarding the neighborhood. and then an update on bee gee star robin gibb and why more workers are telling their bosses to take this job and shove it. because in this business, there are no straight lines. only the twists and turns of an unpredictable industry. so the eighty-thousand employees at delta... must anticipate the unexpected. and never let the rules overrule common sense. this is how we tame the unwieldiness of air travel, until it's not just lines you see... it's the world.
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the killing of unarmed teenager trayvon martin has sparked many different discussions. we want to focus on one aspect of the case that could impact homeowners and their associations, particularly those of you with these neighborhood watch groups. george zimmerman was a self-declared neighborhood watch captain, right? he called police to report a suspicious person just before shooting the unarmed 17-year-old in what zimmerman claims was self-defense. so the question is, can trayvon martin's parents file a lawsuit
against the gated community where zimmerman shot their son? attorney kenneth director specializes in homeowner associations. he joins us from plantation, florida. ken, explain to us, if you can here, could the homeowner association be liable in the trayvon martin case? do his parents have a case here? >> well, let's resist the temptation to comment on facts that haven't been finalized yet, but the answer to your first question is yes, the association -- any association can be liable if it engages in negligent conduct. here you had a horrible pattern of criminal activity. if i read the reports correctly, there were over 400 calls to the police in the 14 months that preceded this event. clearly the association then had some duty to do something to provide security. now, i don't know what the liberations occurred at the level of the board of directors at this community. did they consider private security where they would have
had licensed, professional, insured security provided by an outcompany or did they have no choice based upon economics to use a neighborhood watch group comprised of volunteers? the issues that will determine liability for the association are really two. number one, what happened between george zimmerman and trayvon martin? i realize that a special prosecutor has brought charges, but until some civil or criminal liability on the part of george zimmerman can be established, the association doesn't have liability. secondly, the association when it instituted neighborhood watch, again if i understand the reports correctly, brought out the sanford police department to discuss how the neighborhood watch program should be implemented. >> right. >> did george zimmerman comply with those guidelines? did he deviate? i can't imagine the sanford police suggested that you could provide a neighborhood watch program using neighborhood volunteers who were carrying firearms. >> all right. so ken -- >> so the second -- i'm sorry. go ahead. >> i want to make clear, if you
are a homeowner in that community, in that area, could you be charged here? could you be liable if you're just a part of the neighborhood? >> well, you have to understand something. the association is a corporate entity that's comprised of the homeowners. so the liability of the association, which is the crux of your question, ultimately gets passed through to the homeowners to the extent that it's not covered by liability insurance. >> okay. >> that's part of the problem here, suzanne, is you have victims everywhere, i believe. >> right. that's a yes answer then, they could be liable if you were just somebody who was in the neighborhood. >> yes, ma'am. well, pardon me, the individual owner is not personally liable. you're liable as a contributor to the costs of the association. if a judgment is entered against the association, it is collectible from only one source and that's the homeowners. >> you say that the homeowners and the surrounding community are victims, too. can you explain how?
>> first of all, they suffered from what sounds like a pattern of crime for over a year now. they had to figure out some way to respond to that criminal activity, and they chose a neighborhood watch program. they've had aassaults. they've had burglaries, and now the shooting of a 17-year-old young man right outside their doorsteps. they're also living with this pattern of criminal activity and they're struggling to find a way to get on top of it and do something to stem the tide and improve the quality of life in this community. with all due respect to everyone else involved, i think that makes them victims, too. >> all right, kenneth, thank you so much. appreciate your perspective. >> thank you for having me. robin gibb is one of the biggest pop groups of all times, the bee gees. now he's fighting for his life. we'll have the latest on his condition. ll. animal handler:except for joffrey. but he did save me a ton of money. interviewer: how's that?
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bee gees singer robin gibbs is now in a coma. i want to bring in nischelle turner to tell us what we know about his condition and how this happened. >> yeah, suzanne. it's actually very sad. he is in a coma. he is battling pneumonia, that's what we're told. doctors believe the 62-year-old who recently fought colon and liver cancer is also facing a secondary tumor as well. now, a lot of people are praying for him today, but this is a tough battle. his family is releasing medical updates on his website which has led a flood of support from his france and contemporaries. now, in addition to the problems that we just mentioned, gibbs' rep confirmed to cnn that the pop star has needed two emergency surgeries since 2010 for bowel obstructions. you should know his twin brother, maurice gibb, died in twooe of a twisted bowel. the brothers gibb, we all know them as the bee gees, they broke
out in a huge way after "saturday night fever." they were inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame in 1997 and they have sold more than 200 million albums. so while barry gibb we know sang the lead vocals, robin stepped forward several times on songs like "i started a joke" and "i have to get a message to you" those memable songs, they make me smile. we send nothing but good thoughts. >> i love the bee gees. thank you. >> me, too. i want to talk about "iron man 3." the producer partnering with a chinese producer. why is that significant? >> well, it's significant for a lot of reasons, but disney basically is trying to tab into the chinese market with this deal. now, disney and beijing based dmg entertainment will team up on "iron man 3" which will be
partially shot in china. it's no wonder because i have looked at the estimates and the movie industry could take in 5 billion from chinese moviegoers as soon as 2015 and action films like "iron man" easily translate into foreign markets. the first two "iron man" films took in almost $600 million outside the united states but only $23 million in china. this deal with hopefully help disney's market and market the film there. now, there is this added wrinkle because there's the speculation that the next villain to face off with could be a chinese character called the mandarin. but some vergs of the mandarin have been called a racist caricature. adapting that into a chinese character into a film co-produced by a chinese company -- you see where i'm going. that could get messy. >> good to see you. don't forget to catch "showbiz
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the editor of politifact joins p. the first one, oil production is down where obama's in charge. it suggested oil production dropped under president obama. is that true or false? >> we gave that a half true on our truth-o-meter. it's a classic case of cherry picking. they have taken one year when there was a decline in oil production but ignored two years where there was an increase. they also ignored the fact the reason it was down was because of the oil spill in the gulf. half true for that one. >> picking what you like. that's not uncommon. what about this from vice president joe biden? he says the 30% tax rate called for under president obama's so-called buffett rule is lower than the described tax rate for millionaires already, not just for millionaires, for people
making over $200,000? true? >> that also gets a half true. this one is kind of complicated in that the numbers are right in most cases, but it's the way he's put them together. he's comparing apples and oranges. in one case he's talking about the marginal tax rate which is the rate you pay on the last dollar of your income to the overall tax rate, the rate you would pay on your overall taxes. he also is wrong when he says -- talks about the marginal rate on people who make $200,000. so overall we gave that a half true. >> okay. finally, what about this claim in a robocall from mike huckabee? he says president obama's refusal to grant permits for offshore drilling is one reason gasoline prices are soaring. how does that rate? >> well, we set the truth-o-meter on fire for that one. pants on fire. this is just ridiculously false. this was in a robocall made in rhode island, and our partners
checked it out and found it's ridiculously false. there have been more than 140 permits issued for deep water drilling, not to mention many for more shallow water drilling. how huckabee came up with that one, we don't know, but pants on fire. >> pants on fire. bill, thanks for setting it straight. appreciate it. >> thanks. we have some health news you need to know about before you make the salad for lunch. take a close look at the lettuce. dole is recalling now 756 cases of seven lettuces salads because of possible salmonella contamination. the salad was sold in 15 states. the recall doesn't affect other dole salads. we haven't reports of any people getting sick at this point. another salmonella situation to tell you about. the cdc says at least 116 people in 20 states and the nation's capital are infected with a strain of the bacteria. they think the outbreak was caused by people eating raw yellow fin tuna. the product, it isn't sold to individual consumers, but it is
used to make sushi and sashimi available in restaurants and grocery stores. also catching our eye this morning, a story out of the "wall street journal," the paper is reporting that some patients with als or lou garriehrigehrige have resorted to making their own drugs. als is incurable, eventually fat fatal. so those patients say the risk is worth it. many doctors, of course, warn this extreme practice can be dangerous. economists say it is a sign of the improving job market. more americans are quitting rather than getting fired. it is take this job and shove it indicator. i'm always looking out for small ways to be more healthy. like splenda® essentials™ no calorie sweeteners. this bowl of strawberries is loaded with vitamin c.
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for the fist time since the economic recovery began, more workers are saying take this job and shove it. which means they can actually find a better job elsewhere. alison kosick, i can't tell you how many people enjoyed saying that, just take this job and shove it. >> the positives of being able to walk up to your boss and saying i've had it, i'm out the door. and you see this strength and confidence to say take this job and shove it. that strength and confidence is actually increasing as we see the economy getting stronger. in february, 51% of all instances where people actually left their jobs was because they actually quit.
they left voluntarily on their own volition. this is the first time since september of 2008 that the number of people who quit outnumbered the people who were laid off. now, quitting is a sign of strength in the economy. employees don't quit their jobs until they're confident about finding a new job. it could also be seen as a sign that layoffs are doing, which obviously is also a good sign. >> always nice to have options there. tell us a little bit about the market, job market. mixed numbers? >> as far as the job market, yeah. you could say the march figures, the job numbers were really a step backward. i'm talking about the number of jobs added to the economy. we got that news just recently. we don't yet have the numbers from march on separations. we could see the quitters go below the 50% mark. we've still got a ways to go to get back to the prerecession quit level. but it peaked at 59% at the end
of 2006. then you saw it fall to 37% at the bottom of the recession. so yeah, you know, there's been a lot of progress, but still more to go before we can all just walk up to your bosses and say take sh job and shove it. >> tell us a little bit about the markets. how are they doing? >> the markets are mixed. dow is up 126 points. the good news is retail sales jumped 0.8% last month. the good news is that that jump in retail sales not only coming from higher gas prices but also consumers spending on other things like home improvements and on cars. so the market seeing the positive on that. . you see the nasdaq down 16 points right now. a lot of that has to do with apple. shares of apple are down $19, down 3%. each share about $586. a lot of investors saying you know what, it looks like apple has had a nice run of it. it's time to take some profits.
what a bargain, $586 for apple. >> back to the take this job and shove it story, do we know what kind of jobs are actually out there? certain sectors, people can say okay, i don't like this, i can go and make a switch to this? >> it all depends on your skill set. it runs the gamut. you look at the jobs report from the previous month. and you know, you saw retail jobs actually the biggest loss of jobs there. but you saw construction jobs in addition. so you're sooing this change in patterns as time goes on. >> over the weekend i went to a brakery over the weekend and they had a help wanted sign. they said we want managers and cashier answer people who can bake. that's a good sign. >>le. >> signs are coming up everywhere. sure. >> good to see you. thanks. prosecutors taking another shot at a baseball great. why roger clemens is back in federal court today. i went to a small high school.
the teacher that comes to mind for me is my high school math teacher, dr. gilmore. i mean he could teach. he was there for us, even if we needed him in college. you could call him, you had his phone number. he was just focused on making sure we were gonna be successful. he would never give up on any of us.
former baseball great roger clemens is back in court today. he is accused of lying to congress about his use of steroids. we have more of the back story. >> let me be clear, i have never taken steroids or hgl. >> it's bhn more than four years when roger clemens appeared before congress and testified under oath he had never taken
performance-enhancing drug including human growth hormone, also known as hgh. his trainer brian mcnamee said just the opposite. >> i injegted clemens with human growth hormone. >> clemens was charged with six counts, including federal perjury, making false statements and obstruction of congress. each count carries up to a five-year prison sentence. clemens went to trial last july but on the second day of testimony, the judge declared a mistrial because the prosecution showed evidence the judge had exclud excluded. the second trial is now at hand with the seven-time cy young award winner hoping to prove his innocence. mark mckay, cnn atlanta. cnn news room continues right now with brooke baldwin. >> happy monday. "rapid fire" as always. roll it.
want to begin here. these are live pictures. this committee is looking into how the gsa spent $800,000, your dollars, taxpayer dollars. both former and current gsa, the theme is remorseful, apologetic as they go on down the road here. the gsa spent this $800,000 on videos and many other high-dollar items at a las vegas conference that happened in 2010. the man you see here speaking, this is a deputy commissioner. he may be pleading the fifth at today's hearing but other top officials are expected to testify. >> our duty on the oversight and government reform committee is protect these rights. our solemn responsibility is to hold government accountable to taxpayers because taxpayers have a right to know what they get from their government. >> the head of the gsa, martha
johnson, resigned because of the scandal. we're going to talk to dana bash there in the hearing room in just a moment. meantime, as many as five more military personnel are facing questions about what happened. they're under investigation for bringing prostitutes to the hoe pe -- hotel. the president had not yet arrived in colombia and he did not stay at that particular hotel. and despite rising gas prices, people are still shopping. retail prices, retail sales for march were up 0.8 %. some of the biggest gains of sales were at building and car supply stores and car dealerships. the world bank announces its new, the president of dartmouth.
his specialty is public health rather than finance. and while it turned down an american was once again picked to head the organization, this was the first time ever there was a competition for the top spot at the world bank. the other contender was nigeria's finance minister. i love this video, the fist of four space shuttles retired last year, heading to its final home. this is the time lapse video from nasa. it shows teams connecting space shuttle discovery here to the top of this 747 if for the trip to washington. the or bitter will soon be on display at the smithsonian national air and space museum. thousands and thousands are expected at a sendoff ceremony in florida tomorrow. and summer-like temperatures in the spring? they're kind of great, unless you have to run a marathon.
people who ran the boston marathon today faced a high of 88 degrees. organizers directed runners to go slower, take more breaks. the heat apparently affected the writtener's time. the man who won was 2:12.40. the second slowest since 1985. and robin gibb is clinging to life today. gibb is in a coma and has pneumonia. he's already had battles with colon and liver cancer. and tom petty says no questions asked. just wants to get his five guitars back. petty and the heart breakers are getting reed dito go on tour wednesday. there's a $7500 reward for the stolen guitars. we have a lot more for you in the next two mourhours. watch this. government workers go to
vegas, party on your dime and then they make videos poking fun at spending your money. there's a grilling going on. we're going to find out who did what. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. a man says he killed 77 people in this rampage of bullets and bombs but despite his confession, he's claiming self-defense. wait until you hear why. of course i'll be angry. >> sex, cash, hookers and a hotel. the allegations against agents in charge of protecting the president make us question the inside world of the secret service. plus,s paparazzis chase katherine middleton's little sis, her driver waves a cu s a . pippa middleton could be in trouble. and they have the number one song many america. >> why is that so hot right now, do you think? >> so on this music monday, i'm
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this lavish las vegas conference. they are they are speaking out for the very first time. today they're on capitol hill. and what they're doing subpoena appearing before congress in this investigation into a spending scandal at the agency that's supposed to cut government waste. the house oversight committee is questioning general service administration officials about a conference that cost $800,000. gsa administrator martha johnson stepped down two weeks ago as details of this conference and other items began to emerge. snen ♪ >> videos like this surfaced about spending money and avoiding investigation. another video shows a fake red carpet ceremony with deputy gsa commissioner jeff neely. he's seen as saying what's done
in vegas stays in vegas. darrel issa says the goal of this hearing is to ensure this never happens again. who is testifying? >> right now, what you're looking at is the chairman beginning tooed the questioning, the grilling of the panel. she just started to question martha johnson who was the gsa administrator until she was effectively fired two weeks ago today. her opening statement was, in fact, almost all of them were remarkable. they weren't just falling on their swords. it's like they were diving on their swords saying how incredibly sorry they are. she in particular apologized for what sh ecalled really over the top and extravagant spending and behavior and she will mourn for the rest of her life the loss of her appointment.
she said she tried to at least make room or make moves to fix some of this while she was still there. >> right, you pointed out she's an obama appointee. >> i think the most dramatic moment so far, james neely was the one who really organized this 2010 las vegas conference, he just told the committee that he is going to take the fifth effectively. but not before the republican chairman, you know, knows that the cameras are there and asked about six questions, really basic questions. were you at the conference, who do you work for, do you still work for them? just to make the point that neely was not going to answer any questions then he dismissed him. it was just the beginning of this hearing. who needs the republicans when you've got the democrats. the top democrat -- >> let me jump in. his opening remarks, ripping
into neely who, as we mentioned took the fifth. let's just play the sound. >> in one e-mail mr. neely invited personal friends to the conference writing, and i quote, and this is incredible. folks, we'll get you guys a room near us. we'll pick up the room tab. could be a blast. end of quote. he then wrote, then went on and wrote this. i know i'm bad, but as deb and i often say, why not enjoy it while we have it and while we can. ain't going to last forever. end of quote. well, mr. neely, it stops now. >> wow. it isn't going to last forever so enjoy it now. dana, take me back. we're talking about this 2010 conference in vegas. what kind of items did the gsa spend money on in vegas?
>> the overall cost was exorbitant, more than $800,000 for one conference. but the specifics is really what gets people going. $75,000 for a contest to help build bikes. $59,000 for the audio-visual system and the list goes on and on and on. but specifically, what we're hearing more and more, especially from congressman cummings, the lead democrat in this committee are things that jeff neely again, the organizer was completely flagrant in his spending knowing, according to these e-mails that he was doing this in violation of what is really -- never mind what should be legal, but really common sense. he says this is not your money, this is taxpayers' money. and he just was spending it in an extravagant way. >> i know you're there. you're going to be watching this. i can't let you go without also asking chairman issa is
admitti admitting of this over the top spending happened under the bush administration as well. do we expect the bush officials will testify as well? >> not today. that's something i pressed is the chairman on several times in several different ways when i talked to him yesterday in his office. he did admit that spending went up during the bush years and the office provided numbers to me that showed it was nearly 100% in the last two years of the bush administration. but he insists that this is about a president, meaning president obama who promised to turn things around. and the question is why this current president hasn't done this. he promises he's going to keep investigating and look into the bush year, but no witnesses right now. >> okay, thank you dana. meantime, explosions rocking the afghanistan capital for 18 hours. watch this. the only insurgent who survived tells us who was behind the attack.
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i want to show you now what's happened in downtown kabul. rebels paralyze the capital for 18 hours. look at this. this was the scene in kabul. we're now told it's over. four civilians killed. also killed, 35 insurgents. what we're talking about here, though, specifically, it wasn't confined to kabul. also an assault across four different prove vins again.
10 years into this war. joining me live, do we know how they managed to smuggle the weapons into kabul which is supposedly heavily guarded. >> that's right. we must emphasis the attacks in kabul took place in a neighborhood that's very heavily fortified and secured. it's called a ring of steel. the nato headquarters is close to the presidential palace. now we got some more details on how they managed to infiltrate the city. disguised themselves as women in berkas. a lot were carrying flowers and they were trying to convince guards they were going to a wedding party in the dpal. but many checkpoints, very
heavily fortified. the fact that they were able to get into the city 10 years into the war, a very, very worrying development. brooke? >> wow, flowers in the car to be a disguise. take a listen to this. how could this happen? >> this is exactly the question that the afghan people have been asking. this is indicative of a serious intelligence figure. allies and nato and others. is karzai saying this is nato's fault? >> well, it certainly seems to be the case. earlier he issued a statement
blaming afghan intelligence and also nato intelligence. this really highlights the divisions about who exactly is in control of security. now, afghan security forces are supposed to be in charge of security in kabul and supposed to be taking charge more and more in other parts of the country. but the fact that nato is blamed at a time when afghan security forces were being praised for their response to the attacks yesterday is very confusing and really leads to just many more questions about who exactly is in charge of security here in afghanistan. brooke? >> as you point out, it was the afghan forces that really kept the rebels at bay. did it on their own. subpoena that the point here, if that's the take away, it's fairly significant. >> yesterday, even while the attacks were ongoing, they were
really praising afghan security forces for their rapid response to this, for their readiness for taking the lead even though nato offered their assistance. we found out much later in the day and into the morning that they offered aerial support in some of the attacks against insurgents earlier this morning. nato and the u.s. saying afghan security did such a great job, but it really leads to more questions if they needed this subpoena port. if they were able to infiltrate the city, are they really ready and as capable as the west want them to be. this alleged killer, police say this 19-year-old took a young, targeted black people and went on a many urd spree. we now are hearing a jailhouse interview. we're going to play that for you next.
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a judge entered not guilty pleas for two men who allegedly killed three people in a predominantly black neighborhood in tulsa. another two people were wounded. and defendant jake england's lawyer has just released this jailhouse interview. it's raw and it's very personal. >> after your father died and your mother was in prison and you were taking care of your sister, what was your occupat n occupation, what were you doing at 17 years old? >> trying to take care as best i could. trying to carry op. >> what was your dad's business? >> removal of trees. >> you weren't able to carry it on at 17? >> no, it was pretty tough. went and started working with another guy my dad did business
with. >> did you work with him for a while? >> i worked with him for ieraro two years. messed around, had a baby. >> that's your girlfriend? >> yes. >> how long were you with her? >> two years. >> now, all up until the time you were arrested, were you working essentially full time on the job? >> yes. every day. >> now, let's talk about sheran. when you lived together, you had a little baby. when was the baby born? >> october 25, 2011 at 1:01 a.m. >> that's jacob jr.? >> yes. >> where did you live? >> we lived in my dad's old house. >> yes. >> you lived on the north side essentially your entire life?
>> yes, my whole life. >> and you felt you knew everybody else, had a lot of friends? >> yeah. >> i noticed as we were coming in today, neighbors were visiting you. >> yes. >> let's talk a little bit if we could, sheran, something horrible happened to the mother of your child. >> yes, she shot herself in the head about two feet away from him. and he was right in the same room. >> that's your little child? >> yes. >> how many children did sheran have? >> one with me. an 8-year-old girl and a 2-year-old boy. the 2-year-old boy didn't know anybody el. >> but you? when did she take her life? >> january 10, 2012. approximately at 9:00 in the
morning. >> just a few months ago? >> yes. >> did you witness that as well? >> yes, i was standing about two feet away from her. >> how did that impact you? >> more than anybody can ever imagine? >> did you love her? >> yes. >> now, after sheran took her life, did you continue being a father? >> yes. >> did you take care of them? >> yes. >> did you work every day? >> every day. >> all right. did there come a point in time when as a result of these deaths relatively close in time of people that you greatly love that you had to get help and get some medication to deal with that depression? >> yes. >> and did you do so? did you get help? >> no, i didn't. medication helped me overcome
bad thoughts, i guess. >> wasn't easy, was it? >> no it wasn't. still isn't. >> jake england in jail again, he is one of the men accused of shooting and killing three people in tulsa, oklahoma, last week. we're going to have more of the stunning video of this interview next hour. and we're also going to talk to sunny sunny hostin about what this may mean to his defense. several others are now facing questions about their behavior, and they're not agents. we're live at the pentagon in 80 seconds.
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his latest book is "the quest" energy, security and the remaking of the modern world. daniel yergin, welcome, sir. we have lived through the fourth warmest winner on record. i've been to chile and seen the glaciers melting. gas prices, this is something you've wrenn't in your 800-page book. >> it's always an issue that churns things up. >> all. do you really think we're going to see $5 gas prices? >> i think it depends on events. prices have flattened out some. inventories have built up. discussions have begun with the iranians. a lot depends on what happens with iran between fwhou and the end of june. >> so if that begins to percolate. . >> june is when the real sanctions begin. >> they're already crippling, but if it gets worse -- >> yes. and the question is will other supplies come in from other parts of the world.
will we see demand kind of slow down and so forth. so it's unchartered seas we're sailing into. >> okay. as we look into those unchartered seas, i want to talk about atlanta where we sit right here in terms of apparently more and more armadillos here. normally you have the beautiful azaleas blooming this time of year. they already bloomed back in march. ro when we talk about these trends, and you look at charts and statistics and graphs, but really people tend to pay attention to what they're seeing day to day, the flo uhhers, the warming. do you notice that? >> there's always a distinction made between weather, which happens tomorrow and climate, these big changes. but i do think people respond to
what they see. we've had these violent storms in the midwest and that makes people think, is this a har binger of what's coming? >> might it be? >> i think climate is till still a much longer term thing, but it is normal, this is 15% warmer. >> you have plenty of folks who absolutely accept global warming. and then you have people who say i'm going to do well by the environment, they hop in their gas guzzling cars and buy that energy efficient light and come home. how much time do we have to get serious about energy? >> in about 10 years, it's going to be 54.5 miles per gallon. that's a big difference. that's like several luge oil fields. >> when a are we talking? >> by the middle part of next decade. so that's how long it takes. detroit really needs to adapt to
this, but it's in the process. >> so if we're in the process then and we're talking about now, do we have time to be lazy? >> one of our most important fuel sources is energy effici t efficien efficiency. india is on that same kind of track. it's not what we do in this country, but what the world does. >> what about the president? here he is. talking a lot about investing in clean energy. how do you rate him as a leader? >> the political discourse has changed. but also what's happened is our conventional situation has
changed. now we're self-sufficient. we now get this dialogue which both democrats and republicans are using. >> you talk about henry ford and edison, you talk about history as we're looking into the future. give me one item in your book that people will sit up in their chairs and think uh-oh. >> in term of risk? i think the near term the biggest risk is what's happening with iran. we're seeing north america, canada, the u.s. and south america, brazil, production increasing. one big change will be seven, eight, ten years from now, we may not be importing much from eastern europe and that may be the big change. >> nice to meet you. coming up, ll cool jay, george
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. >> we need to do better for our own children. these children didn't have to die. and as we mark national child abuse prevention month, why don't you mention these numbers. 2,500 children dead each year. a child is abused or neglected every 36 seconds. just think about that. 36 seconds. andless than half of the substantiated cases just 40%. and minorit children are three times more likely to be killed. legislation is aiming to do.
i sit here and i think what does it say about the state of our affairs when we need legislation to protect our children? >> well, it's true. there's no national strategy for addressing the problem that so many families and children are facing. and facing nationally on these kids issues, we turn to congress. some 6,000 soldiers have been killed and some 25,000 children have been killed in their own home. we think it's deserving of an overall national approach to solving this problem. a. >> as part of this bipartisan legislation, establish a commission. what is, if you can think of within thing, what is the most important piece of legislation in your opinion here? >> well, i think creating a national conversation on the issue right now because of confidentiality laws and child
abuse deaths and other factors, there's very little coverage of these issues on the national level, we want to open it up to conversation. we know when people hear these facts, these stunning numbers, they want something done. they don't want these children to be hurt. let's have a conversation about it. >> other folks might not be covering it. we're covering it. and i'm proud to cover it thanks to your help. it geography whether a child is going to be killed or not. more children are killed in some states than other states. for example, texas has between 200 and 300 deaths every single year. >> why is that, michael? why texas? >> texas has a very weak social safety net.
very poor network of health and social services. they don't do a lot for young families. they just cut billions of dollars in health care and education, which will only contribute to this problem. but they have a philosophy down there that weakens the role of government in addressing these issues. and unfortunately for a lot of these kids. >> michael petite, if you want to learn more, it's called protect our kids. michael, thank you. we'll talk soon. this just in, barbara starr at the pentagon just asked defense secretary bee leon panetta about the sex scandal involving multiple members of the secret service. you'll hear his response next.
>> barbara starr was sitting in the pentagon briefing. 1 1 secret service em em plo iees. five members of the military. do those numbers still hold? what do you know? >> that's right. we just came out of a briefing with leon panetta and the joint chiefs of staff. we are at this total, 11 members of the secret service, five members of the u.s. military, believed all to be army according to our sources. thayer ear restricted to their hotel in colombia over the week because of the same scandal. and now we are told by our sources here that as many as five additional members of the u.s. military may be is facing
questions over the same scandal. that's a total of 21 if you do the math. just a few moments ago, the chairman of the joint chiefs shared his concern about this. >> we are embarrassed. i mean, you said how embarrassed is the military? i can speak for myself and my fellow chiefs what occurred in colombia. we're not sure exactly what it is, but what we do know is that we distracted -- several of our members distracted the issue from what is a very important regional engagement for the president. we let the boss down, nobody is talking about what went on in colombia other than this incident. so to that extent, we let him down. the investigation is ongoing. it will chart a path for us and we'll hold those accountable if it turns out they violated orders or policies or laws.
>> he talked about letting down the president of the united states, their commander-in-chief. a lot of embarrassment at the pentagon, brooke. and the investigation now under way by the southern command. now investigating what went on in colombia, how many military people were involved. what exactly they participated in and what violations of military policy and code there are. secretary panetta also weighed in and said he was very embarrassed and concerned about the incident promising people would be held accountable. brooke? >> we let the boss down. the president said yes, if these allegations are true, i will, of course, be angry. barbara starr at the pentagon. thank you. much more on this inside world of the secret service. got a lot of questions on this one. that's coming up in a couple of
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i have a special music monday for me. i grabbed my baby brother and off we went. it was a long late night. here are a coup of highlights from my iphone. i ran into my new friend george clinton on the red carpet. and seeing mr. p. funk, i knew it would be a good night. we packed into the public hall. i bumped into a very handsome ll cool jay who inducted the beastie boys along with chuck d. then kidd rock hopped up on stage with others to pay tribute to the trio from brooklyn.
and i'm pretty sure i broke my tape, yes, tape listening to their album way too many times in the '90s. flea with his aqua color hair did not disappointment. they closed out the show before the big finale. and yep, members of guns and roses were there, minus axel. they brought the house down with "welcome to the jungle" and "paradise city." my brother and i grew up with a jukebox in our kitchen. so seeing smokey robinson up on stage on saturday night, he was inducting groups like the comics, the crickets, the famous flames and the midnighters and the miracles. that was special. and the guys, seeing them up on stage in their 70s and 80s smiling was quite humbling. and just a shoutout to cleveland. they now host the ceremony for
three years. and unlike new york, they open up the ceremony to the fans. you have 6,000 fans there they are sitting all above. you could totally feel the energy all night long. it was amazing, a little bit of music magic. 48 hours later, i'm still pitching myself. so thank you, thank you, thank you. if you don't know the band fun. i would bet you've heard their music. it's a mix of electronica, hip hop, stadium anthem music. their single "we are young" is the hottest song in the country right now. topping the charts five weeks now and running. i met up with the band in this year's south by southwest. here on this "music monday" is fun.
♪ >> my first question is, does it still feel like you're dreaming or has it hit you? your success? >> this is the weird part, when you wake up at 6:00 a.m. and you want to fall back asleep and you fall back asleep and the dreams get really, really weird. >> are you officially in the weird dreaming stage right now. >> none of it has been too tangible yet. they say you're number one. we're like it's amazing.
>> the first album was awesome, but this second album "some nights" it's like something happened. what was the magic ingredient, do you think? >> i think it was just changing it up a little bit. the band kind of had more of a retro vibe in the past. i think we wanted to embrace music that was happening in the future. still hold on to those things that we love. like our parents albums. that classic style of song writing but incorporating so many amazing things in modern music. >> electronics is really hot. it's like electronic, hugely influenced by hip hop. and '70s hop. is that an accumulation of all your musical interests? how did that whole emerging happen?
>> we fell in love with that style. >> why do you think electronic is so hot right now? >> i don't know. >> it's like hip hop in the '80s. >> didn't you write the chorus to "we are young" in one night? ♪ we are young ♪ ♪ set the world on fire >> we are driving in a car and maybe five days later, just singing it to jeff, i hadn't even sang him the chorus yet. i sang it to our producer in a meeting with him. his jaw dropped to the floor.