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another edition of "360" at 10:00 eastern. piers morgan tonight starts now. tonight the race is on. >> we're in this thing together, and america is not about just a few people doing well. >> it's still about the economy. and we are not stupid. >> i'll talk to the man who says this election is for sale to the highest bidder. frank rich on what super pacs are doing to america. plus giving mama's boy a whole new mining. he became a -- >> the sexual orientation of my parents has had zero effect on the content of my character. >> my exclusive with zach walls. >> marilu henner. she's one of the only people on the planet with total memory recall. >> august the 16th of 1977, that was a tuesday, and i heard on the radio that elvis presley had
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died. >> my god! >> in one of the weirdest things i've ever seen, she can remember every detail of her life. tonight i'll put her to the test. plus noenl amerionly in ame nfl draft. let's be honest, a multimillion dollar meat market. this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening, our big story, the selling of a president. i'll talk to a man who says 2012 will go down as the year of the sugar daddies. frank rich. also my extraordinary interview with marilu henner. you remember her from "taxi." what you won't know about her is she remembers every single thing about herself that ever happened. tonight she shares that extraordinary ability. >> july 29th, 1981, okay, it was a wednesday. i was shooting in soho the movie "dream house" with john schneider and we were shooting like my apartment there.
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and that was -- that's the first time i ever listened to a walkman and i heard the song by sting. >> that interview is one of the most amazing thing's you'll ever watch. that comes later. we begin with our big story, super pacs appear the selling of the presidency. sugar daddies, the old white rich men who are buying the selection. frank, it's a fascinating piece. these are basically the 25 leading conservative donors who have all contributed more than a million dollars into various super pacs. >> the 25 that we know about because in some of these super pacs or pacs you can remain anonymous. there's some that are called social welfare organizations. they really are very political. so these are just the ones we know about and just the ones so far when technically we're still not really out of the primaries. >> has there ever been a time in modern political history where the fate of a president has been so determined, some would argue,
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by straight cash through these strange institutions, the super pac? >> in modern times, absolutely not. we know that people of wealth and corporations try to buy influence, and in both parties often. but this kind of wealth -- first of all, there weren't even people this wealthy in real dollars. andrew carnegie in real dollars didn't have as much money as some of these sugar daddies. and now there's the mechanism legally through various rulings, not just citizens united, that allows them to give unlimited amounts. >> the worst thing is, frank, to me, i went on the trail of interviewing all the candidates regularly so i was in north carolina or wherever it may be watching attack ad after attack ad after attack ad. it was like demolition jobs. i was shocked. what was clear to me is there were ten times as many acting for mitt romney or on behalf of mitt romney or around the back door for mitt romney. and you cannot escape the
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conclusion that he didn't win the nominee because he's just the best candidate. he won it primarily because he blew the others out of the water financially. >> right. but also the demolition derby had blowback on him. the truth is people like adleson freeze who will rally to romney by supporting -- they have so damaged him that he has some of the worst positive poll ratings of a candidate at this stage of a campaign ever. he has negative ratings that are so high. so the same sugar daddies that are now going to try to help him destroy obama really did damage to him when they were working for santorum and gingrich. >> barack obama is not exactly short of cash. for march alone he got $104 million in, overall obama nearly $200 million. romney closing up on $100 million. are these misleading, these figures? >> there's an apples and oranges
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thing going on. you have to think if you're watching this from outside and don't want to understand election law too much, it's like having a savings account and a checking account. so what the official campaigns are raising and the official democratic and republican parties are raising is different from this pac money, which is so large and isn't counted in those ledgers. except by journalists who make rough calculations. so in some ways it's like you can't really keep score in that way. >> the premise of your piece is that you're seriously worried mitt romney could buy this election. >> mm-hmm. >> through these weird, unaccountable kind of super pacs. that's not good for american democracy, if that's what happens, is it? >> no, it's very much a replay of the late 19th century when we had far less regulation than we do now from plutocrats and people who were incredibly wealthy, which is fine, they're entitled to be wealthy, represent their own interests in the polling booth by just
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pulling the trigger from afar. and they have special interests that are not always transparent to the voter and they'll try to collect the bill if their guy or guys and women get in come november. >> we saw the battleground really kick off. the obamas really officially launched their campaign may the 5th, as the pair of them, michelle and barack, a multi-pronged attack of the youth. the cover of "rolling stone" magazine. the watch a bit of this from jimmy fallon, where he slow jams. >> the reason it's so important to keep down costs is so we keep college affordable. >> and the president knows his stuff, y'all. that's why they call him the potus, which means person on top -- what is it? >> jimmy, potus stands for
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president of the united states. ♪ he's the potus with the most >> it's very funny. >> it's very funny. >> people have criticized him. republicans have said it's more celebrity stuff by the president. others are like you don't need to do this. you haven't got to do this anymore, you've the president. actually he does have to do this because one of the battle grounds will be for the young voters and that's where obama will have an advantage. >> right. he has to mobilize them. it's unlikely he'll succeed in doing it in the huge numbers of the historic election of 2008, but this helps motivate young voters. but i'd also argue it's not just about young voters. a lot of americans live in the popular culture, not just young people, and so the more that he's out there i think in that culture, the more he seems like one of us. and for republicans, and mccain did this too with obama, to say he's a celebrity or he's demeaning, they look like mr.
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wilson in dennis the menace, old white guys that can't have fun and are out of touch with the way people consume culture in this country. >> what i like is the battleground which may come, which involves their ability to sing. and we actually cut together mitt romney and barack obama. it's not a fair fight by any means, but watch this. ♪ i am so in love with you ♪ for purple mountains majesty, above the fruited plain ♪ >> if that was the final of "the voice" i'm afraid mitt romney is going home. >> all i can think of is he has said that his first date with ann romney was to see "the sound of music." so i'm fully expecting "climb every mountain" to be the next piece of his repertoire. >> the republicans have already begun a few attack ads.
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i want to show you this one that's come out i think today. >> oh, yeah. ♪ i am so in love with you >> oh, yeah. >> nice. >> so you can see the battleground there being clearly aligned. a lot of the stuff that the obama campaign may see as positives being thrown back in their faces as the celebrification of the presidency against straight mitt romney. he rises effortlessly above all this. what do you think of this? >> i think it's going to back fire. it makes them look like old goi fogies. i'm fascinated by one shot in that ad, him drinking a peer. that's considered a major part
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of being a successful politician. and you have a candidate on the republican side who for religious reasons can't drink beer. what's that doing there, i wonder. >> let's take a short break. i want to come back and ask you about keeping america great. i can't think of a better guy to ask what america needs to do not just to recover but to keep great. what are the great virtues that should be maintained from the past. marry lieu. if you're looking for a bumper sticker to sum up how president obama has handled what we inherited, it's prets eat simple. osama bin laden is dead and general motors is alive. at aviva, we do things differently. we're bringing humanity back to life insurance. that's why only aviva rewards you with savings for getting a check-up. it's our wellness for life program, with online access to mayo clinic.
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and this is a great role for her with more freedom than she's had in television in years. she is really something else. >> she's terrific. it raises the specter of vps generally. if you're mitt romney, what's the smart pick for you? >> i really believe in the old cliche do no harm. don't -- don't go for that hail mary pass. we saw what happened with mccain. i think it was a big factor in his defeat. find someone who's completely vetted, who's not going to get in your way. the idea that if you pick someone from a certain state or a certain gender or a certain ethnicity you're going to win that vote because of it is not born out by history. >> the recent polls are fascinating. condoleezza rice was at the top and i've always thought she is slightly wasted now and not being used at a high enough level. i've always found her very intelligent, interesting character. what do you think? >> i think it's true, although she's in academia and that's a
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legitimate calling. however, it's debatable about whether being veep would be a step up as indeed our show shows, it's kind of far removed from real power. she really had a more powerful job before than vice president would be. >> do you attend the white house correspondence dinner? i've never been but i'm going this year on saturday for the first time. i'm a bit alarmed by the guest list. i was imagining the president and vice president biden. i've just discovered that lindsay lohan and kim kardashian might be at the next table. that's not quite what i had in mind, frankly. >> i haven't become in years but it has become sort of a nerd prom in washington. it's kind of embarrassing not for politicians but to watch sort of the washington press corps be so stage struck and awe struck at seeing not always top tier celebrities. >> i am taking goldie hawn as my guest. now, that is top tier. i think we both agree on that. >> that is top tier and she's like me and like julia
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louis-dreyfuss grew up in the washington area so she's legitimately there. >> my pick of vp has been spot on. >> that's fine but you're not going to believe what you see surrounding you. and also it is funny, and i grew up in washington, to see washington -- button-down washington press people and political people just slobber over anyone on a red carpet. it's really kind of embarrassing, but it's like watching a car wreck, if you can watch it on c-span and i recommend it to everybody. >> let's talk about america. keeping america great. you've written about america for much of the last 25, 30 years. what do you make of the reality of what is happening? is america going to hell in a hand cart. is it massively exaggerated? is it simply the threat from emerging superpowers? is america embracing that threat properly? what do you think? >> i feel we've had a down
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period. i do not think that we're going to hell in a hand basket and i do think that we'll pull out of this. i think there's some structural problems that have to be addressed. this issue of inequality which really an mates the tea party on the right and the occupy wall street people on the left, there's a feeling here that something is out of joint, that people are not getting their fair share, whether they're on the right or the left. the most important thing about america, cliche though it is, is freedom. and that includes the freedom to have an equal chance at a livelihood, at a career, at being creative, and that's sort of been lost over the last 40 years in an equitable system and everyone knows it and we have to address it. problems with china, issues -- our status in the world, i think that's a lot of bluster. we were going to be defeated by japan, what, 15 or 20 years ago. i think that gets out of control. the down mood is excessive, i think. >> i've been talking to people like howard schultz at starbucks, who have been talking
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about a new sense of moral capitalism. now, not everyone is prepared to practice this. you look at what apple is doing. apple is the biggest company in the world but is very china centric in terms of its workforce and sales. you can see staggering sales in china that came out this week. how much should american companies like apple be following the starbucks lead and bringing jobs back to america, opening factories here, even if it costs them more money to do that? >> i don't think you can have a one size fits all policy, but i do think it's something that corporations have to take into consideration more, and it's going to require real building, because it also means that corporations have to get in the whole issue -- involved in the issue of education, local communities. it means having a political presence and a benign one, but one that's helpful. so it can't just be decreed. but, yes, a company like apple and any company should have a
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way of bringing some of it back to america with an understanding we live in a globalized world and not everything can be here. >> it seems to me ultimately short sighted for a company making so much money by their own admission, they're not quite sure how to spend it. they're not looking at the 8% or so unemployed in america and thinking how can we give back a bit here. america is so patriotic as a company i'm sure they would be rewarded for that. if they made a big deal of saying we're bringing jobs back to america, americans would go i love apple even more than i did yesterday. >> i think that's true. i think the brand, as they say, would be rewarded by that. of course they would be very effective at publicizing such gestures and initiatives. so you're right, it doesn't make sense that they don't. particularly all these companies sitting around on a tremendous amount of cash. why aren't they spending it here? they may blame the president, they may blame federal regulations, but i feel that's just an alibi, an excuse, and
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they have to step up as corporate citizens and be a part of the real fabric of america, particularly at a time when it's suffered so much. >> final question, frank. come november the 5th, who's going to be sitting pretty as the president? >> you! >> that can't happen. >> i'm not good -- i don't believe in making predictions. i really think anything can happen. it's going to be a close race. you know, some structural things are favoring obama, some things like the money and the sugar daddies are not favoring him. >> what do you sense the key battleground will be? obviously the economy probably collectively. but is there one thing? could it be as simple as gas prices? >> no. i don't think it's going to be one thing. and i do think a key part of the battleground is going to be women, which has already become a battleground. if romney can't win over women, he's not going to be president. i also think another key demographic is going to be
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hispanics, which were very important in certain swing states and that's going to be a big, big battleground. the youth vote obama will get, he just has to motivate it to go to the polls. but i think it's going to be classic, sort of meat and potatoes of american politics with the economy as an x factor, because we don't know how much the recovery is going to stall or not. >> frank, as always, fascinating to talk to you. please come back again soon. >> i'd love to, thank you. >> good to see you. next my primetime exclusive with a man's speech that made him an overnight sensation. >> my name is zack walls. i'm a sixth generation iowan and i was raised by two women. ♪
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over the next two hours i'm sure we're going to hear plenty of testimony about how damaging having gay parents is on kids. but in my 19 years, not once have i efr been confronted by an individual who realized independently that i was raised by a dgay couple. you know why? because the sexual orientation of my parents has had zero effect on the content of my character. >> zach wahls speaking to the iowa house of representatives in impassioned defense of two mothers got 18 million hits on youtube and made him an instant celebrity. he's written a book "my two moms" and zach joins me now. welcome. >> thank you very much for having me. >> i replayed your speech this
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morning to remind myself because i remembered at the time just exploding on the internet. what i was struck by is a comment somebody put underneath. >> okay. >> on the youtube version that i saw and it just said there. wow, he didn't have devil horns coming out of his head. the world didn't implode. satan never rose up from hell. and damn our souls forever. in fact he seems like a normal, nice guy. i blame the parents. which i thought was a great comment to make. >> yeah. >> it kind of said it all. it was the most shocking thing about you was your nor mality and that was what was so disarming as well. you had to be staggered by the response. >> totally overwhelmed. >> when you walked in to make that speech, what was your real intention? what did you hope to achieve? >> you know, when i walked in, i was kind of overwhelmed too. it's a really big room. at hand was house resolution 6,
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this proposed amendment to reverse a supreme court decision that legalized marriage equality. so my goal for the evening was to hopefully sway some lawmakers and their vote. unfortunately, i was unsuccessful in that effort. they passed by a vote of 62-37. fortunately, though, the bill died in the senate. >> ten countries recognize same-sex marriage now. you've got eight states in america that legally allow gay marriage. things are moving very fast. it may seem like slow to some people in the gay community, but actually historically this is moving fast. >> definitely. >> what do you think is going to happen over the next two, three years in america? do you sense that because of people like you that it's become a public movement that's unstoppable? >> you know, in the last two years we've seen a rise of about 9% in support of marriage equality, so i would not be surprised to see another 9% increase between now and 2014. i think a lot of that is probably going to depend on
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these legislative victories. here in new york, obviously, it was legalized just this past year and you had victories in washington and maryland. i think this changing of policies is helping people realize that you're right, the world isn't falling to pieces. you know, hell isn't opening up and swallowing davenport, iowa, down into the abyss or anything like that. people are getting married and there's a little bit more love in the world. >> what is interesting to see is i interviewed a guy called kirk cameron and you said who's he. i never heard of him either. i never watched "growing pains" as a kid. he had done a book that was very religious in its feeling. he came out with some interesting comments. let's watch some of this. you can find out what he said. >> i believe that marriage was defined by god a long time ago. marriage is almost as old as dirt and it was defined in the garden between adam and eve, one man, one woman, for life till death do you part. so i would never attempt to try to redefine marriage and i don't
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think anyone else should either. so do i support the idea of gay marriage? no, i don't. >> he went on to say that being gay was sort of destructive to civilization. some extraordinary comments, which i think he was taken aback by the reaction. now, he comes -- you will be familiar with this from this religious stand point that if you are a committed christian, certainly a catholic, for example, you may be brought up to believe that homosexuality is a sin. what do you say to people that say that kind of view? >> there are certainly a number of things anybody might choose to say to that person but first and foremost it's important for everybody to remember to be respectful and courteous in these kinds of conversations because if you're not, you're going to alienate the people we need to have having these conversations with. i think most people who fall back on this kind of religious pretext or opposing marriage equality and other rights are forgetting that this country is not iran or saudi arabia, this is the united states of america.
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in the bill of lights, it's explicitly clear, the very first amendment to the united states constitution protects the freedom of religion. i would hope that kirk cameron would be willing to protect our religion just as much as he wants his own protected. >> if we get a republican president and it's mitt romney, for example, it looks like he's the nominee, he has already been outspoken against gay marriage. how do you feel about having a president that would at the moment outlaw your parents? >> it's a very full circle moment. i talk about in the book watching in 2004 at the republican national convention from our home in iowa, and actually mitt romney himself speaking against same-sex marriage. it was actually watching that convention speech that i realized for the first time that there are politicians in this country who don't want my family to exist and support legislation to try and remove their relationship from its legal standing in iowa. so that was a very troubling moment to experience when you're in the eighth grade. i think living in a country where mitt romney is president,
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we'd probably be moving backwards when it comes to this issue. he supported doma publicly, he's also donated $10,000 for the national organization for marriage. so i think under a romney administration, we would be looking at a different world for lbgt people and certainly not one that's better. >> you make a brilliant point. you said britney spears marriage after 55 hours, kim kardashian 72, both uphold the sanctity of marriage. your mothers have been together 16 years of married commitment, and yet many people refuse to recognize them. >> that's right. >> as a married couple. it is an absurd disparity in the way many people view those two situations. >> yeah, definitely. you know in fact my moms had thafr first commitment ceremony in 1996, three months to the day after the defense of marriage act was signed into law. the defense of marriage act is what singled out same-sex couples in the eyes of the federal government and was supposed toe to protect the
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sanctity of marriage. it was propelled by speaker gingrich and president clinton and we found out later that newt gingrich is in the middle of his second affair with the woman who would become his third wife and president clinton was in -- not sure what number that affair was but he was in the middle of an affair with monica lewinsky. and it's not to degrade either of those men at all but to point out when it comes to the sanctity of marriage, there's certainly more bigger threats to be worried about than my moms. >> there was some most amusing moments in the book where there are some practical difficulties of having two mothers and no dad. one was you had to learn how to shave from your best friend's father. you had to learn how to tie a tie from "playboy" magazine which is the best excuse i've ever heard from a young man for reading "playboy" magazine. you're a smart guy, aren't you? >> i do what i can. i realized after we wrote that how unbelievable it sounded but that's all right. there are some other challenges i had to get used to.
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obviously putting the seat down was not something that was required in our household. and people often ask what's the biggest difference. so far, it's my ease with putting the seat down that seems to be the biggest difference that i can identify so far. >> how are you doing with your new celebrity? >> i travel a lot. and that's -- it's hard. it's stressful. i don't get to see my moms as much, which, you know, is a little bit of a bummer. >> or your sister. she is sitting there. >> that's true. the last time i was home, we weapons inspector and saw "the hunger games" together so that was fantastic. looking forward to spending more time at home. >> fair to say, ladies, you must be pretty proud of him. and why shouldn't you be. he did an amazing thing that day. and i think all the people went, wow, that guy, he must have been brought up really well. the reality is that you were, but by two women who are very happily married and very proud of their boy. so nice to meet you. >> piers, thank you very much. >> keep up the good work. >> i'll do my best. coming up, marilu henner, you remember from "taxi" but she
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i believe that we look at these things, can i fault marilu for leadership, no. but the team lost. >> but you can fault her on one thing. >> yeah. >> i thought that she was very, like, talkative. you were so opposite trace.
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he was so solid. >> different energies. >> you have a different energy. your energy is just as good, it's just a different kind of thing. >> yeah, it's just a different kind of thing. but you were overdoing your energy. i know your energy, i understand your energy. you were overdoing your energy. >> that was me desperately trying to save the life of marilu henner in the first season of the "celebrity apprentice" on nbc. i failed. i failed to save you. >> i failed to bring the right person back to the board room, because my big flaw that day was i had been on qvc many times, but i didn't know about easy pay because i was always on for my books and they were under $25. >> the thing was to do a qvc promotion. >> that was the first time we got to be on the same team. do you remember the day we did this? >> let's just explain why -- mainly why you're here, apart from the fact i really wanted to see you again. >> i know. >> because you and i had a special bond on that show. >> yes. >> you brought this book out called "total memory makeover."
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it's a "new york times" best seller. you are a freak. you have a freakish, weird, genius memory. you're one of only 12 people -- >> documented. they have found a few more but the paper that they're writing for the -- >> you have what they call an auto by graphical memory. >> but yours is ridiculous. i can barely remember what i did an hour ago. >> that picture, i know when it was taken. >> when? >> may the 4th, 2009. it was a monday. yeah, i know exactly what i was doing that day. >> what were you doing? >> well, i didn't even see that. i was at the paley center for a friend of mine was having like a premiere there. and i also went that night to a theater and saw a reading on "after birth" and it was all on the same day. >> but that's three years ago. >> that's easy. three years ago, many years ago. that's fun too.
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>> let's focus on what i can have a broad memory of, which is "celebrity apprentice." when did you last see me? >> at the finale of "celebrity apprentice." it was march the 27th of 2008, thursday night. we shot at the snl studios. and i had seth myers dressing room. >> i had no idea. and i spent nearly a month with you. i had no idea -- >> well, it was 13 tasks in 20 days with two days off, a marathon. >> i'm beginning to see why you've had three husbands. this must get really annoying. >> no, no, no. it's my way of flirting with you, piers. >> it's mesmerizing. >> oh. well, thank you. >> when did you first know you could do this? >> well, even as a typy little girl people were saying what's with this kid and her memory. they called me miss memory. i was one of six kids. any time you can find something to distinguish you from your brothers and sisters, you're happy. i had this unusual memory for dates and details and stuff.
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they called me univac, i was the family historian. then i was 18 years old before my girl friend said when are you going to realize that no one else has this crazy memory so i started paying attention to it. anybody who was a close friend of mine knew it. people would call me up and say when did we do this and when did we do that? lesley stahl was a friend of mine. there was a woman named jill price who had gone through testing at uc irvine because she felt she had this unusual memory and they finally said, wow, we've never seen anything like this. the scientists, the doctors, they documented it, they tested it and they offered the story to both primetime live and lesley stahl. she said hate to burst your bubble but marilu henner has the same memory. so she didn't take the story. in fact she had one of her producers go to lunch with me to prove that i had it and why she didn't think it was that rare. >> you've now met some of the other people that have this ability. >> yes. i met them december the 7th of 2009. >> what i remember about you most vividly from the apprentice
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was the unbelievable energy that you used to radiate. >> well, donald trump thought it was too much. >> you look about 30. >> thank you. >> but i know you're double that age. >> i'm double that. >> just for people watching, she is 60 years old. >> i turned 60 april 6th. >> that's unbelievable. >> thank you. are you still going to flirt with you? >> of course i'm going to flirt with you. let's take a short break. when we come back, i want to put you to the test. >> okay. >> because i am riveted by the new side of marilu henner that i didn't know exists. >> okay. >> the brain that goes with the beauty and the energy. >> thank you. >> almost a perfect woman, aren't you? >> good thing i'm breeding. i bred.
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♪ ♪ it's early in the morning ♪ manhattan babies don't sleep tight ♪ ♪ until the dawn >> elaine, we're trying to play cards here. >> that was marilu henner in the classic comedy, "taxi." i loved "taxi." >> i loved it so hutmuch. >> at the time you were like my pin-up. >> i know, you said that. i was so excited. i went home and practiced poses. i got to use them in the show. >> how do you look so amazing?
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>> oh. well, you know, i lost my parents really young. my father died of a heart attack at 52 when i was 17. my mom died of arthritis at 58. she was so crippled up with arthritis, she was a dancing teacher, she ended up losing her leg. they had horrible, horrible deaths. i made a vow that i would learn everything i could about the human body after they died so if i've been dealt this genetic hand i better work with it. i changed my life. i changed the eating habits of most of my family. i turned 60 almost three weeks ago and i've outlived both of my parents, so i think living as a vegan, no dairy, no meat, my children have never had a cheeseburger or a glass of milk. >> never had a cheeseburger? >> no. they're healthy and strong. >> does any part of you feel guilty they have never had a disgustingly good cheeseburger. >> people say what's going to happen if your children have a cheeseburger? >> i say i'm just hope they're
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writhing in pain. they can't even stand the smell of it. >> you have two boys? >> 16 and 17, almost 18. >> what do they make of your strange memory? >> they have grown up with it and they have very good memories, both of them. >> they can't play you at scrabble. >> my husband is the best person at scrabble. >> but you can remember almost every word that's ever existed. >> i don't know about that. that's more about photographic memory. i can more remember the last scrabble game we had. >> let's put this to the test because i find this gripping. >> okay. >> so if i was to say to you what did you do on august the 16th, 1977. >> oh, okay. august the 16th, of 1977, i was just flying back from las vegas. my boyfriend at the time, lloyd allen, was performing there in vegas at the aladdin hotel. i was flying back and i was driving from the airport and i found out -- and that was -- that was a -- '77, that was a tuesday and i heard on the radio that elvis presley had died. >> my god!
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>> isn't that the truth? yes. >> it's shocking to me that you can remember that elvis died that day. even though i vaguely knew it was in the '70s, the fact that you remember your day is even more extraordinary. >> i remember where i ate the night before, i remember what i did that weekend. at one point he was in the show "grease" and the little -- the car during greased lightning went off and into somebody's table. it's like all of a sudden everything starts flooding back for me. >> july the 29th, 1981. >> july 29th, 1981. okay. now you're getting me nervous, you know. july 29th, 1981. that was a wednesday. do you have that? >> it was a wednesday. >>, 1981. >> it was a wednesday. >> i don't know if i know the historical thing. >> it doesn't matter. i guess it would only come back to you if it meant something on that particular day. i know what i was doing. i was shooting in soho the movie
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"dream house" with john schneider. and we were shooting like my apartment there. that was -- you're not going to believe this -- that's the first time i ever listened to a walkman. and i heard that sting song. and we ate at spring street natural. but something probably historical happened. we got up super early in the morning. that would have come back. i was at the hotel. we got up super early to watch charles and diane get married. then i went down to a shoot in soho dream house. >> that's incredible. i love the way your brain began to map out. >> well, i would have come up with that. >> i was a journalist at the time covering all this stuff. i wouldn't have a clue. what month, what day. to me it seems perfectly normal. >> it is normal.
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>> it was. it was the first day. so the way it works for me because people for years have been asking me how my memory works. when i was a little girl i would say you know how you go to the library and you pull out a card catalog but you have to be on this side of it because it's chronological like this. but the best way i could describe it is when i saw a scene selection on a dvd. for me. you say 1981, a and the whole year lines itself up. and i see simultaneous videos of each day of that year. >> if i say to you two mo mentous things happened on march 30th in your lifetime. >> i know one of them for sure. in 1981. that's when reagan was shot. it was supposed to be academy awards. but they postponed it until the next night. >> that's true. 1965. march 30th. >> that's early for me. i was not 14. >> does your memory go back?
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>> it does. but maybe it wasn't something -- >> it's arguably one of the most important moments of the 20th century. march 30th of 1965. winston churchill died a few months before, and this was almost like a natural succession. another heroic brit who is going to dominate the world. i'm sorry. >> it's my birthday. >> march 30th, 1965. now you'll never forget it. >> now i will never forget. which was a tuesday. >> chast entirely true. doesn't that mean if i interviewed you in five years time -- i. >> i won't forget your birthday. i won't forget we did it on this day. now it's part of your life. >> and i adore you. i never looked up your birthday before or anything else like
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that. i babysat for you. >> she had. the book is fascinating. i can't stress that highly enough. >> it's really for other people. >> can you be trained to have anything like this? >> you may not but i can bring back people's memories in ways they never imagined before. i've been working in the memory world for long time now. way before 60 minutes. i've been working with people, individuals, couples. there's never been anybody i prompted or has done my exercises without being able to g back. it's really like taking what happens for me naturally and turning it into exercises for other people. >> i think i know why you've been married three times. i couldn't understand why any man would let you go. it's because you must never forget any bad thing they ever do. >> but -- >> they can never had a bad drunken nights in the pub. >> you remember the time, the date. >> so what. what wives don't remember?
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my husband -- what man ever wins an argument against his wife. at least i have an excuse for it. >> it's been so nice to see you again. >> you mean it's over? >> it's over. >> one thing is for sure, we will never forget it. it's a best selling. go out and buy it. it's amazing. lovely to see you. >> great to see you, too. >> next, "only in america." show me the money. the nfl billion dollar draft. ♪
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the nfl draft an amusing spectacle. but any sports lover like me will put it mildly tonight. a pageant of brawness and beauty is under way where strapping young men are marched into an arena, judged and bid over by hideously wealthy owners. these are the prized. it's not just the rich old guys wheeling and dealing, parents, agents, handlers, you name it everyone wants a piece of the action. they have little option but to sit, look pretty and wait, often for a call that never comes. it's often a completely
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humiliating way of doing business. once a player is selected, the owners trade them straight off to the other team. the clear message being we love you, but not as much as the other guy. so you run along now to wherever we tell you. of course, a few of these young men will become famous and fabulously wealthy and have a long career in the nfl. others won't be so successful. some won't play a single game in the pros, which is why the draft critics call the whole process a thoroughly demeaning exercise. a sporting version of roman gladtorial blood sport with poor unrealizing competitors decided on the whim of a rich man's raised thumb. that's all for us tonight. ac 360 starts now. good evening, everyone. it's 10:00 on the east coast. we begin with breaking news. a 360 exclusive. george zimmerman's defense attorney has revealed to us that