he landed in newfoundland, canada. trappe was the first person actually to cross the english channel with this balloon cluster. five people have died trying to cross the atlantic with balloons. when he landed, he posted this to facebook. let me share this with you. quote, hm, this doesn't look like france. see you back here on monday. "the lead" starts now. all the sandbags in the world couldn't stop the devastation happening in colorado right now. i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." the national lead, families separated, loved ones missing. rushing flood waters cutting off entire towns in colorado. and the rain is unrelenting. the world lead. going into extra innings. the all-important u.s./russia summit over syria isn't ending when we expected it would. is that a good thing or a bad thing? and the sports lead. eli has one more ring, but he's never beaten peyton on the field. he gets another shot at it this weekend when the manning brothers go head-to-head, but first, he talks to us.

may the best man win endorsements. good afternoon. i'm jake tapper. welcome to "the lead." we begin with the national lead and the historic rainfall that is literally washed away entire communities in colorado. a 150 mile stretch of the state is dealing with massive flooding brought on by torrential downpours that in many cases, will not let up. colorado residents are being warned to stay off the roads, but not everyone is taking heed, which is keeping emergency crews and the national guard pretty busy. about 20 people have been reported missing. at least three flood-related deaths. let's take a look at how fast the water is moving in some areas. this is right outside of people's homes, this shot. there are fears the situation could get worse before it gets better. meteorologists say up to another half inch of rain an hour, an hour, is possible this afternoon. joining us now by phone is heidi, commander from the boulder county sheriff's office. we're hearing some of the worst

damage is in your county. tell us about some of the devastation this flooding has caused. >> good afternoon. yes, we've had a lot of rain up in the mountains that has eliminated access to several of our communities, has undermined roads and structures have fallen into the water. >> what is so unusual about these torrential downpours? are they worse than normal or is there something else that's causing the problem? >> well, colorado typically gets about 11 inches of rain a year, and we have had over that in the last two days. >> amazing. unbelievable. are there any towns still being evacuated at this point, or has that all been done, all that work? >> we still have communities that we cannot reach, so we are currently working to evacuate the lyons area which is being done with the assistance of the national guard. we have communities in the mountains that we have not been able to reach, because the roads

to their communities are washed out, so they are without power, without water, and without any way for us to get to them. >> there's just -- just little neighborhoods, pockets that no one can reach and they can't get in or out? >> they're small towns, and they live in areas that the water has washed out the roads that lead up the canyon. >> are there still concerns that canyons in boulder county might give way and send even more water rushing through that city? >> absolutely. the problem is a lot of the debris that flows down the river then gets caught and then when the water subsides for a short time, the debris readjusts and it can start another flow. >> heidi, i want to talk more about those individuals who are stuck in these towns, and they can't get out, and you and the emergency rescue personnel can't get in. how many people are we talking?

>> we're currently in the process of evacuating 2500 people from the lyons area, and we have a community called jamestown, and i don't have an accurate count. could be 500 to 1,000 people there, but i don't have an accurate number there. >> and what are they doing? is there any way to communicate with them? >> we do have some communication with some of the areas, either by cell phone or radio. a lot of these communities have volunteer fire departments, so as long as their radio batteries last, we have communication with them that way. >> all right. commander, thank you for joining us and best of luck. our thoughts and prayers are with you. >> thank you. i appreciate it. it wasn't even a year ago that people on the new jersey coastline were dealing with horrendous flood waters of their own when super storm sandy belted that coastline. now seaside park will have to rebuild again after an enormous fire left much of its famous boardwalk in cinders.

what you're looking at now used to be ice cream shops, amusement rides, some of the best make-out spots you'll find along the shore. i say that as a philly boy. today it's a smoldering heap. a lot of this was rebuilt after sandy. now it's back to square one. about you're under the impression that new jersey is just going to sit there and take it, well, governor chris christie says you can forget about it. >> when new jerseyians call new jerseyians, they don't think twice. they come to help. that's what it means to be from our state. which is why i know we lost a place that has provided generations of memories to our citizens. we will rebuild. we will make new memories for our families because that's what we do. >> i want to go to margaret conley, who is on the scene right now. margaret, business owners lost everything there. what have they been telling you? >> reporter: jake, they are devastated. i think they're still in shock today. the business owners that we talked to, they rely on the

businesses that are lined up behind me, they rely on them for their livelihood. over 50 businesses were impacted down this four-block stretch. it took $8 million to repair the damage from sandy and these business owners, they looked at the damage, they walked through it this morning, and they're saying it's going to cost more than that. jake? >> margaret, i know that it's early yet, but what are investigators saying about the possible cause of this fire? >> reporter: yeah, that is the question we've been pushing to get an answer on. they're not going to speculate. we know investigators are on the ground now. the orange county prosecutors are taking the lead and they're going through the evidence, they're putting everything into piles and they are going to sift through it. they are telling us we may not know the cause for days to come. >> margaret, how long will it take to recover and rebuild from this? are there any estimates as to that? >> reporter: yeah. they're not going to go there, either. governor christie was asked that same question. he's taking it one step at a

time. i think they want to find out what the cause is first, and again, these business owners are saying it's going to take longer to rebuild this time than it did from hurricane sandy. >> unbelievable. thank you, margaret conley in seaside heights, new jersey. coming up in the world lead, the talks continue but has any real progress been made? what's going on behind closed doors in the u.s./russia meetings on syria's chemical weapons. later, he went into hiding at the height of his career and now decades later, a new film uncovers new secrets about his private life. classic macaroni &e from stouffer's starts with freshly-made pasta, and 100% real cheddar cheese. but what makes stouffer's mac n' cheese best of all. that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. made with care for you or your family. and now, there's a plan that lets you experience that "new" phone thrill again and again.

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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. in our world lead, some breaking news now. u.s. officials telling cnn that a major component of the united nations security council resolution in syria is likely off the table. let's bring in chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. he's with secretary of state john kerry in geneva. what are you hearing about this u.n. security council resolution? >> reporter: well, this would be a major development because this has been the principal disagreement not only here in geneva between secretary kerry and foreign minister lavrov, the use of force, but also between officials in washington, officials in moscow, europe, et cetera. this has been the sticking point and from the very start of these talks here in public and in private, that's what secretary and kerry have really been coming up against and when i spoke to a u.s. official early on, they said these talks have been tough, they haven't been easy. they said quote, they have been talking straight, they have been

making clear their agreements and disagreements and you and i have covered enough meetings like this to know that that is code for a frank discussion. they're not necessarily throwing chairs at each other, but they're also not necessarily having a meeting of the minds as they're going through these issues. so if the u.s. is willing to back off including the threat of military force in a u.n. resolution, that could help grease the works here for an agreement on that first step which is a plan for syria's chemical weapons. >> jim, is there any -- can it be that the threat of force is not mentioned in the resolution, but the u.s. still maintains its current posture and president obama continues to talk about it? is it possible that the russians get their way in the u.n. security council resolution, but the u.s. still has this stick above the head of bashar al assad? >> reporter: no question. i think you just described where we're headed with this, because the u.s., president obama,

secretary kerry, is never going to explicitly take that off the table and u.s. officials have told me that a number of times here, that the president will never disavow the use of force if he believes it's in the u.s. military interest, but if they can accept it not being on the resolution, the russians get to say what they want to say, the americans get to say what they want to say, you might be beginning to see the outlines of an agreement, at least on that issue. but there are many other issues to be worked out, particularly cataloging, collecting and destroying these weapons, and that by everyone's estimation here is really a first step. >> jim sciutto reporting with the very latest from geneva. thank you, jim. let's bring in former republican senator and foreign relations committee chairman richard luger. he's with me in studio, now president of the luger center, a nonprofit that focuses on issues like getting rid of chemical and nuclear weapons. senator, it's a pleasure and honor to have you here. tell us about your efforts to rid chemical weapons of syria, to get chemical weapons out of

syria. >> well, last august, 2012, i was in moscow, i made a proposal first of all at the defense department there, then in a public statement press conference, "new york times," reuters and others picked it up, as did the russian press, suggesting that russia and the united states had cooperated in destroying our own chemical weapons. we built this huge plant, for example, or even as we speak, the russians -- well, chemical weapons were being destroyed. i suggested this is a time we both respect each other, we ought to think about the syrian weapons which even at that time were vulnerable to being picked up by somebody else. at that time, the ministry was not enthusiastic about it although they didn't forget about it. i know this because i talked to a russian television network this morning, and they said what do you think about your idea, i said that's very generous, but still, i think it's a good idea. >> why weren't the russians interested?

just to bring it back for our audience, obviously there is a civil war going on there for two and a half years, the chemical weapons are scattered throughout the country, and as you say, they're not safe. who knows who will get their hands on them. you bring this proposal to the russians, the russians and the u.s. have had a lot of success, thanks in part to people like you ending the chemical weapons and getting rid of them, destroying the stockpiles. you say to the russians let's get rid of the syrian chemical weapons and they brush it off. why? >> at the time, they wanted to brush off the rest of the non-lugar program, too. they were tired of having americans around. they said we don't need your money anymore and so forth. >> the non-lugar program, for our viewers, is the program to get rid of nuclear weapons and nuclear waste throughout the country. throughout the world, rather. >> exactly. but nevertheless, i think they reconsidered. the foreign office was never quite that negative. on our side, it wasn't too much movement on the situation. as a matter of fact, it came as a total surprise but i think

it's a transactional situation in which president putin, president assad believe essentially that assad is going to stay in syria. >> he's going to stay in power? >> yes. so-called stability. unless something terrible happens. like an american strike or american participation. so if the quid pro quo is essentially that syria will have to give up these weapons, which may become very troublesome for russia in due course and the rest of the world, why, so be it. assad stays, putin stays, there's so far stability there, and this could be fortuitous. there's no way i can think of that all syrian chemical weapons would ever have been found or destroyed without there being this international push. i would just add one further thought. that is, the united states has developed excellent technology which has not really been commented on, mobile units that can go out into the field and destroy chemical weapons.

i'm told five to 25 tons a day, as a matter of fact. this is being presented as almost an insurmountable obstacle. granted, the firing of everybody around is a problem -- >> civil war going on. >> yes. and how we work with the international community, because the international community, for instance, can say okay, we designate russia and the united states to take care of this. it's those you cannot destroy in the field, we can cart off perhaps to where the russians are destroying in a plant america built out there, their own chemical weapons. >> i want to ask you in the time we have left about, you have worked across the aisle with many democrats including then senator, now president obama. he's going to be awarding you the presidential medal of freedom this year. i understand you have a close working relationship. do you understand the concerns of some democrats and republicans in congress when they look at how president obama has handled this crisis in the last few weeks, those who say the message has not been as

coherent as it should be and the position of the united states has not been as consistent as it should be? >> well, i think it's easy to say. apart from consistency and every dotted "i" some great things have happened. >> potentially. >> yes, potentially. the fact this has even opened up the thought of an international peace conference, quite apart from the chemical weapons which is very serious, would not have happened without president obama threatening the strike. same with the international norm had been broken. when i was in russia a year ago, some russians said it is after all the possession of the syrians, how dare us to get into their positions. they have never signed the chemical weapons convention. well, that's right. one of five or seven that have never done so. all sorts of excuses. the fact the russians are now suggesting this is on the table,

as a matter of fact we ought to be discussing with our aides and so forth how you do it, i'm just trying to advance the situation by saying we have a non-lugar investment in the program. there already is a path to get it done and there are people here in our own defense department that know how to do it now, and that has to be part of the argument, hasn't really come into it. >> former senator dick lugar, a man who made it his life's mission to rid the world of deadly weapons. thank you for your work and thank you for coming by. the politics lead is ahead. let's check in with our political panel in the green room. vice president joe biden just called some of his rivals in the house neanderthals. do you think the vice president just bombed the administration's relationship with the house back into the stone age? >> as a conservative i'm all about turning back the clock, jake. but maybe not quite that far. >> not to that era. stay tuned for more of "the lead." this man is about to be the millionth customer.

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the politics lead. call it the politics of the paleolithic. 17 days frout a potential government shutdown you might hope for bipartisan spirit to flare in washington. but not last night at the naval observatory. vice president biden was throwing harsh words at some members of the republican controlled house of representatives, ones who didn't support his signature legislative achievement, the recently renewed violence against women act. take a listen. >> it was surprisingly last year we ran into this sort of neanderthal crowd that, you know, no, seriously. when you think about it. did you ever think we would be fighting over, you know, 17, 18 years later to reauthorize this? >> literally neanderthales. literally. let's bring in our panel and talk about it.

ramesh, do you chalk this up to a bidenism or do you think it's indicative of a problem we're going to have as we try to avert a government shutdown, the attitude the obama administration has to house republicans and vice versa, i should add? >> well, i think the vice president was saying what was on his mind -- >> as he does. >> i don't think republicans will hold a grudge. i think they will say that's biden being biden. they take him seriously as a negotiator. they don't particularly take what he says in public all that seriously. they just think he flies off the handle. >> paul, is there something deeper going on here? because we are, i mean, all the attention has been on syria but we are approaching a very perilous economic time right now with this government shutdown. >> we're 17 days away from a government shutdown. the house -- first off, it's an insult to neanderthals. but the truth is i actually do have friends and sources in the

republican party on the hill, they like joe biden. they like dealing with him. they feel like they can negotiate with him, make a deal with him. frankly, they don't like the president. they don't like him politically or personally. so biden has actually been quite a good negotiator. i don't think this comment drains that good will. he's a creature of the hill and knows how to cut a deal with them. i think this is not going to hurt biden. >> jackie? >> i think at this point it's premature to talk about the negotiations with the president since house republicans are kind of negotiating within themselves at this point when it comes to continuing resolutions and all of that. no, the relationship has never been good and you see that spike every so often, every time we have one of these deals. what this means is basically i'm going to be standing in a hallway very, very late on september 30th. >> this does come at a time also, john carl at abc news just reported this afternoon that even though president obama said in his speech to the nation tuesday night that he had discussed delaying the vote with congressional leaders, that neither speaker boehner nor eric

cantor, the house majority leader, both house republicans, had been conducted in any way, and obviously, i'm sure they're not happy about that. this comes at a time when relations with congress are odd, to say the least. >> and the republican leaders have stuck their necks out supporting the president on syria beforehand. that is a complaint you hear about a lot, that the president has not invested the time to try to build relationships and this is just another example. it's a very important example, though. >> paul, i'm sure you would argue, the white house's perspective is these guys don't want to deal with us. >> but he has to consult and not just inform. this is legitimate criticism, honestly. as you point out, boehner and cantor, who disagrees with the president on almost everything, stepped up early and supported strikes in syria despite the fact that the country as a whole and the party especially hates them. i do think they were owed real consultation. i don't know if it makes them feel any better but you hear the same thing from the democrats on the hill, too. some of it's just the normal separation of powers. i worked on the hill and worked

in the white house, there are always tensions that even transcend party. i think this president especially has got to do more personally. he's got quite a good staff. his chief of staff comes from the hill, they like him a lot on the hill but there's nothing like hearing from the president himself. i think he has to engage more directly. >> speaking of hearing from the president, president obama hasn't really talked much about or at least publicly about vladimir putin's op-ed in the "new york times." senator john mccain was on the show yesterday and when i asked him about putin's op-ed, this is what he said. >> i would like to have a chance to have a commentary. >> mccain would like a response. interestingly enough, john hudson, of foreign policy.com reports the english editor of that russian publication indicates mccain has been an active anti-russian politician for many years already. we have been critical of mr. mccain and his stances but we would be pleased to publish a

story by such a prominent politician as john mccain. should he take the opportunity to write the op-ed? >> mccain or president obama? >> mccain. >> why not. >> you think president obama should? >> i don't think president obama has much to gain from that unless he and putin start wanting to do it in the "washington post" op-ed page. but as far as president obama doing it, i don't think he has much to gain. for mccain, why not. this is something he talks about a lot. i don't think he has anything to lose. >> what's the response at the national review when you picked up the "new york times" and saw the op-ed from vladimir putin? what was your take? >> well, we thought that -- certainly i thought that putin was sort of doing his victory dance over having gotten this new role in the middle east, that soviet and russian leaders have been trying to get for decades. >> it's a complete insult. he's preening and promoting himself. there's a kernel at the heart of it which is he wants to help get chemical weapons out of syria

but the rest is deeply insulting. john mccain had this guy's number from the beginning. when president bush met with him the first time, said i peered in his soul, it was embarrassing. mccain, even though the president was of his own party, mccain stood up, said i peered in his eyes too and saw three letters, kgb. mccain's had his number from the beginning. i think it would be great for him to write an op-ed. i would love to see it. >> one last note, in a new drink up campaign, the first lady, michelle obama, is talking about how it's important for everybody to drink more water. let's take a listen. >> drink just one more glass of water a day, and you can make a real difference for your health, for your energy and the way that you feel. >> there came blowback in politico as we would expect. a professor at the university of pennsylvania says these claims are not based in fact, especially more energy. i do know one republican senator who would definitely be on board with this program. marco rubio, of course, as we know is a fan of the water.

it seems like first ladies run for these non-offensive programs, drink more water, read books and yet you can't escape criticism on anything in this town. >> no. i guess we can't call this watergate, though, right? sorry. i had to. i couldn't help myself. >> my people attacked nancy reagan for leading a campaign against drug use. it's a wonderful thing she did. my party, because we were so blinded by partisanship, attacked her for that. that was shameful. i think this is of that sort of ilk. as a parent of four kids, it's absolutely true that if you can get them to drink more water and less soda, less sugary, even fruit juice, it's better. >> that is unstated in this campaign, though. >> right. it's not anti-soda. it's pro-water. the beverage companies are all for it but the science isn't there. >> all right. thank you all so much. coming up next on "the lead," is apple ready to revolutionize television? steve jobs confided in one man about his plans for apple tv and that man joins me next.

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welcome back to "the lead." in our money lead, what should have been a big week for apple ended up fairly meh. the company unveiled some new products including an upgraded iphone and a cheaper version and a kaleidoscope of colors but when a chart of your stock over the past week looks like a cliff, i wouldn't exactly put the week in the win column. this leaves apple maniacs asking what would steve jobs do? let's bring in steve jobs' expert, walter isaacson, president and ceo of the aspen institute and former chairman and ceo of cnn. his "new york times" bestseller, "steve jobs" was released in paperback this week with a younger jobs featured on the cover. what was the reasoning behind that? why the younger -- >> as he would say, think different. that wonderful albert watson picture that's on the hardback, he's doing that same pose and it became iconic but it was one that the company uses, everybody uses. i thought well, let's try something different. >> but that wasn't photoshop? >> no. he's actually doing the same

pose when norman took the picture for "rolling stone" in 1984. >> assuming that jobs is somewhere in heaven looking down upon us and watching what's happening to his former company, what do you think he would have made of the announcement this week, the cheaper iphone in multiple colors, the criticism that apple is no longer an innovator? >> well, steve left behind a great team and tim cook is competent as chief executive officer. what they've done since steve stepped down as ceo is they've taken an inch off the ipad and added an inch to the iphone and now take $100 off the iphone for the iphone 5c, is not really transforming things. steve, every three or four years, just blew us away by producing a product we had no idea we needed like a tablet

computer. and that's what apple really has to do in the next 12 months or so. because it's been three or four years since they've had a transformative product. >> they also don't do, tim cook doesn't do what steve jobs used to do which is the unveil. the showmanship -- >> nobody will be a showman like -- >> but we know every time they have a press conference we have an idea of what they're going to do as opposed to last time, everybody was what's he going to introduce. >> especially because steve was so fanatic on preventing leaks, he probably should have been communications director for the obama white house. i remember once when al gore was saying something, he was on the board of apple and steve came down on him like a ton of bricks. it was always a surprise from the original 1984 unveil of the original macintosh where he takes the black velvet cloth like a showman and was able to do that unveil. this time around, you know, tim cook was there, he said the word incredible like four times. it was like if that was a magic word in a drinking game, we have

knocked out a fraternity by halfway through the show. but the problem was, nothing was incredible. you kind of knew what was going to happen. so i think, you know, they still have got a great team there. >> look, i'm a fan. i have an ipad, i'm holding my iphone, i want to believe in this -- >> they make really good products. they still do. great company. >> are they going to wow us ever again? >> oh, sure. i do think that, you know, couple years ago, when steve was nearing the end of his life, he would talk quite a bit about the things that he really wanted to do, transform, the next wow, having done a tablet, having done a phone, having done a music player. i think he would love to have broken the sort of brain-dead way tv is connected to remote controls, to cable and you don't really have control, you can't just walk into a room late in the evening and say put on the latest jake tapper and boom, the tv puts it on for you. you got to figure out what channel is it on. >> i don't know about you. i have like 15 different remotes, i got this one, that

one, this one to figure it out. >> right. that's the way it was with music before steve did itunes and the itunes store and the ipod. had to figure out how to get the album, if you wanted a particular song, you had to put it in your mp-3 player. he said any song you want, 1,000 songs in your pocket, 99 cents per song. the way he did it was not just the great hardware and software that was tied together. it was browbeating the content companies to say to them, the music companies, you got to sell it by the song, we're going to do it in the itunes store. so in some ways, it's just like that. he's got to get -- apple's got to get the content companies in on the game. >> i could talk to you all hour but we have to stop. thanks so much for stopping in. the paperback is out now in stores. please check it out. when we come back, he's had more success on the field if you're counting super bowl rings but eli manning still has not beat his big brother. this sunday, that may change. but before they play, eli is talking to us. and later in pop culture, a legendary deejay makes a

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so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment. why is the favorite novel of seventh grade english teachers now at the top of the amazon charts 62 years after it was published? find out next.

welcome back to "the lead." now it's time for the sports lead. he's won two super bowls and total gut check fashion, he's conquered the world of hip-hop, kind of. and sketch comedy, sort of. but there's one thing eli manning has not done and that's beat big brother peyton on the pro football field. he'll get another chance to top the guy who once gave him noogies this sunday when the broncos come to the meadowlands to face the giants. we sat down with eli before the big manning bowl. >> well, jake, it was more than just noog aies. when they were kids, peyton

would actually pin eli to the floor with his knees, then beat on eli's chest until eli named every nfl franchise. eli has gotten a little bit of revenge. the two played basketball, eli has reported dunking on his big brother but hey, real scoreboard will always be the football field. eli talked to me about just how special it is to continue that sibling rivalry in front of the whole world. so you're looking new orleans, you're playing football with your big brother, peyton in the front yard. you look up 20 years later, and you're playing against him in the nfl, the biggest stage of all. what's going to be the most special for you? >> i'm proud of peyton. i think he's proud of me. we've worked hard to get to this point and play in the nfl. we support each other. we want each other to play well each year and i think, you know, i think seeing him before the game and shaking his hand and just talking for those few minutes are special moments. that's what you'll remember down the road. >> hi. i'm eli manning and i'm a proud

ambassador to the little brothers program. >> you did this great "saturday night live" sketch where you were part of a gang for the little brothers of the world getting revenge. >> now you learn to treat the younger brother with some respect, peyton. >> my name's not peyton. >> whatever. >> i know it's a joke, but is there any revenge maybe you can get in this game for the beatings and teasings you got as a kid? >> i'm not playing defense, i don't get to go hit him. i won't get a free shot at him in any way. you know, peytopeyton's been a big brother, very supportive. he's helped me in many ways. >> what's the strategy your parents use to get through the game? >> they just root for the offense. a high-scoring game and maybe a missed extra point loses the game, some sort of moral victory, if that really exists. >> exactly. i will say, you and peyton will meet on the field on sunday, but you have already met on a very grand stage already this season, performing a rap video.

>> let me ask you a question, what do you get when a football gets down with your phone. >> who came out on top with that one? >> i think we both lost on that one. hopefully, years from now, our play of playing football will be more viewed than that rap video. >> you know, this whole week actually, jake, is an adjustment for the brothers. they are a close-knit family. they make a point of helping each other during the season. they talked on the phone each week to share strategy. they will even watch film for each other to help catch each other's mistakes. they won't do that this week. >> i would think not. rachel, multiple neck surgeries put peyton's career in doubt a couple years ago. how likely is it that this is the last time we see the two brothers play each other on the nfl field? >> it probably will be. their two divisions aren't scheduled to play again until 2017. peyton would be 41 years old by

then. there is always the possibility that they meet in the super bowl and certainly, with the super bowl in new york, there's a lot of giants fans that would love that this upcoming year. but hey, those odds are long and certainly, the neck surgeries, as you mentioned, eli was in the inside of peyton's recovery. the family kept it hush-hush but eli said peyton just didn't have the zip on the ball, the velocity, and they were worried he wouldn't be able to get it back. the fact he had a successful comeback, made it back to this point, will be a special day on sunday. >> i'll be watching. thank you so much. the buried lead. those are the stories we think have not gotten enough attention. though this is about an author who thought he got more than enough attention in his time. you write one classic american novel, then try to disappear forever and no one will let you hear the end of it. j.d.salinger published "the catcher in the rye" and was as invisible as the tooth fairy until his death in 2010. but a new book and film are

putting the author back where he loathed to be, in the public eye. the landscape is littered with those famous for being famous. photographed almost out of habit. so it's easy to forget about the era when well-known names could be legendarily private. >> he turned his back on celebrity before celebrity was celebrity. >> now even the secrets of j.d. salinger, one of the most solitary figures in recent history have oddly enough been made into a feature film. >> salinger was a national story, a shooting star. >> at the height of that success, he disappears. >> the documentary "salinger" was written, directed and produced by shane solerno, who dedicated a decade to the project. >> i conducted over 200 interviews personally. we were on five continents. we went through diaries, journals, government records, so this was an archeological dig. this was a detective story. >> for those who say "the catcher in the rye" author would

not want to be captured this way. >> he maintained lifelong friendships, he would call the press and grant spontaneous interviews. he really was a recluse who liked to come out of hiding to remind the world he was a recluse. >> he wants audiences to know that beyond the rarely seen images and imagined solitude was a man full of life and stories untold. >> j.d. salinger lived an extraordinary life. when i found out that he landed on d-day, that he fought in some of the bloodiest battles of world war ii, he was in a mental institution, he entered a concentration camp, there were so many aspects of his life that the public didn't know that i had to make the film. >> and the director says without his film, salinger's life stories may have been lost forever. >> there were a number of people who were never going to speak about j.d. salinger on the record while he was alive. many of the people that i interviewed were in their 80s

and 90s. a number of people we interviewed have since passed away. >> among the most intriguing discoveries pertained of course to love. >> people hurt him. people he trusted. >> the late author's romantic relationships were among his best and worst-kept secrets. >> he said you have ruined my life. >> salinger's affair with joyce maynard is well known but his later loves are practical top secret. >> many people didn't know she really existed for years. we found her, we found the records of how salinger actually brought her into the united states. >> including salinger's forbidden love whom he understandably kept private. >> he was a counterintelligence agent in world war ii and in the process of being part of the de-nazification of germany, he fell in love with a gestapo agent and married her, and

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welcome back to "the lead." now it's time for the pop culture lead. 20 years ago today a tall goofy redhead who spent most of his time behind the camera introduced himself to america with the hopes that he could somehow, some way fill one of the biggest pairs of shoes in late night television. >> now, here's your host, conan o'brien. >> he replaced david letterman on nbc on september 13th, 1993. letterman moved on to cbs after an ugly battle with jay leno

over hosting the "tonight" show. conan, who has come to know a thing or two about ugly battles, hosts his show on tbs. over his 20-year career he's brought us such memorable characters as triumph the insult comic dog and the nerd classic, pierre bernard's recliner of rage. we say to you, congratulations. we hope your special day is filled with marathons of walker texas ranger. how is it that a man can be accused of soliciting a trans-gender prostitute, resign from his job and still be praised by the "new york times" for breaking barriers over it? well, we're talking about the world of hip-hop, where home oh phobia still flies. this is deejay mr. c from one of the more influential hip-hop stations in the country. wednesday, a video came out and rather than deny it, he abruptly resigned, then returned for an on-air confessional the next

day. >> i am tired of trying to do something or be something that i'm not. i'm tired. i'm tired. >> he says he does not consider himself to be gay but it's true, you don't often hear this kind of frank discussion of sexual identity in hip-hop. it's not clear if his resignation will stick. he was back in his time slot yesterday afternoon. the crisis in syria forced president obama to cancel a fund-raiser roundtable with hollywood heavyweights but have no fear, a-listers. the first lady is here. michelle obama will now step in to take the president's place. the fund-raiser will be hosted at the home of everybody loves raymond creator, for $1200 guests can enjoy a photo reception and if you've got an extra $32,000 lying around the house or under the sofa cushion or in your suit pocket, you can buy a ticket to a roundtable discussion which will include the first lady. he left us hungry for more and now the second helping is here. don't miss the seaso