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that's it for us here on "new day." we have the clock up for the shutdown. there's only one person that might be able to avoid the tragedy of a shutdown, the one and only carol costello. >> i only wish i had that power. >> no pressure. >> no pressure. thanks, guys. have a great day. "the newsroom" starts now. good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. on the edge and on notice, congress has less than 15 hours to avoid a government shutdown. as hope dwindles, anger builds. nearly seven in ten americans believe it's republican lawmakers who are acting like spoiled children in this stalemate. nearly six in ten blame democrats and almost half say it's president obama's fault.
general disgust with washington seems to cross party lines. >> i just wish the people that we elected into office would do their job. it seems like it's a lot of grand sxwrn standi grandstanding for the people they're trying to win votes from rather than doing what's best for the country. >> i think it's another scheme to get us citizens worried and try to get us on board with an agenda we don't want. i think it's politicians' efforts to really just put their agendas through and not get their work done. >> the impact would hurt the economy, put a hold on paychecks and hiring. 783,000 workers with unpaid leave and wall street is already facing a hit. investors hate uncertainty and federal loans will grind to a halt affecting home buying to small businesses. now it is worth noting that about three-quarters of all government employees still will go to work, even if there is a government shutdown, that's about 2.5 million workers who
are deemed essential employees, like postal workers and members of the military. we are covering all angles of this story from the white house to capitol hill, and we'll have the view from both within the debate and outside the fray. let's start at the white house, shall we, with brianna keilar. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, carol. the senate is expected to take up and then very quickly dismantle what the house passed over the weekend. and barring any unexpected agreement here we're on a fast track to a government shutdown. >> this is the old football strategy. >> reporter: house republicans rallied on the steps of the capitol calling on the senate to come back to work. inside, a ghost town, not long after the house gop passed a bill in the early morning hours sunday. >> motion to reconsider is laid on the table. >> reporter: it funds the government but delays obama care for one year, now just hours to go before a deadline for a deal,
the first government shutdown in 17 years seems all but certain. the blame game in full swing with republicans on preemptive damage control. >> so far majority leader harry reid has essentially told the house of representatives and american people go jump in a lake. >> he's saying 100% of obama care or the highway. the president's the one saying i will shut down government if you don't give me everything i want on obama care. >> reporter: they argue they've budged, demanding the president's health care program be delayed after initially voting to defund it all together. but senate democratic leader harry reid won't put this latest house passed bill up for a vote and president obama, who met sunday afternoon with his economic team at the white house, has threatened a veto of any measure that delays or defunds obama care. >> let me repeat it, that's not going to happen. >> reporter: the senate is expected to strip out the obama care delay today and send it right back to the house.
meanwhile the clock is ticking toward midnight, when a government shutdown would shut down national parks, furlough federal workers and stall new passport applications. there was one area of possible agreement, however, a repeal of a tax on medical devices that was included in the bill republicans passed this weekend, a top democrat said he was open to the measure but not with the shutdown looming. >> i'm willing to look at that but not with a gun to my head, not with the prospect of shutting down the government. >> reporter: there are two chances for president obama at least so far in his public schedule today to perhaps make some comments about the shutdown. later in the day the president has a cabinet meeting and there will be cameras at those events. he's made it very clear when it comes to tinkering with obama care and really any significant way, that it's a non-starter for him. >> brianna keilar reporting live from the white house this morning, let's head over to capitol hill, shall we, the finger pointing continues there. the senate expected to reject the house's latest spending bill
when it returns to work at 2:00 this afternoon, that's eastern time. majority leader harry reid slamming the house's plan which would delay obama care for a year in exchange by funding the government comparing the measure to extortion with what reid calls anarchy. >> reporter: this is a case of here we go again again. as you heard in brianna's piece the senate is preparing to reject a plan the house sent over a bill to keep the government running and send back to the house a bill that the house has already rejected. let's do a quick recap, last week the house sent the senate a bill keeping the government running, keeping the federal workers at work, getting their paychecks but they included this provision that would defund obama care. the senate rejected that and sent back to the house a clean what they call a clean spending bill that would keep the government running but leave all this owe ba in a ma care, anti-obama care provisions out. over the weekend the house sent
back to the senate another spending bill reattaching new anti-obama care provisions, delaying it for a year rather than defund it and another provision that would repeal a tax on medical devices that helps fund the law. the senate already warned the house that they would reject that. the white house has said that they would veto, the president would veto that bill so that's where we stand today. the senate is going to come in this afternoon, strip those same anti-obama care provisions out once again and send it back over to the house so here we have this game of legislative hot potato with the time ticking down to midnight and it's not totally clear what the house is going to do. now, who is going to be to blame here? you saw at the beginning of the poll you showed a lot of people think the republicans and the democrats aren't acting like adults. who is to blame if there is a shuttown? latest poll shows 46% would blame republicans, 36% would blame the president, and 13% would blame both. so even though the president comes out a little bit better
than republicans in congress there's still a lot of blame to go around. it's not going to be good, carol. >> why isn't the senate meeting until 2:00 this afternoon? if everything is so urgent, why aren't they in there right now talking about things? >> the senate would argue that the house knew all along what they were planning to do, and so for them, they say it's fine, we'll come in, in the afternoon, maybe the house can quickly come together and send something back over, but the point of view of the senate majority leader harry reid the house republicans knew all along that the senate was not going to accept any bill that was loaded down with these anti-obama care provisions, and so to them, this game of hot potato could have been avoided in their view in the senate democrats' view if the house just listened to that initial warning but as it comes, here we're going to be at 2:00 this afternoon with only ten hours to go until the end of the day, and it's not clear exactly how this is all going to shake out but we will be watching very closely. >> i think it's looking clear,
right? >> reporter: we'll know exactly what the house is going to send back and who will be left holding the bag. >> athea jones reporting live from capitol hill. how would a government shutdown affect you? christine romans is in new york with that side of the story. good morning, christine. >> thank you, carol. i cannot stand the theatrics anymore from washington. let's talk about what's going to happen if there is a shutdown. national parks, museums, zoos, monuments, anything that's free probably is going to be closed because those national parks if you're in a camper right now at a national park you'll have a couple of days probably to clear out. many federal offices and programs from 700,000 to 825,000 people sent home, nonessential workers sent home. congress is considered essential. congress will still be paid, carol. rest assured congress will be
paid even though congress has not done its job and could be putting us on the brink of a shutdown. look at other services here that are incredibly important, federal courts can remain open for ten days, enough operating functions for that, passport offices unless they're in a federal office building passports, visas will be issued. air traffic control, border protection, key parts of the department of defense, the power grade will be maintained, all are still opened. there's something called mandatory spending, social security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, all of those things will continue to rate. if you get a direct deposit of social security that will continue. if you have s.n.a.p., supplemental nutrition benefits, the card will be reloaded, postal service still works, jobless benefits, the checks will continue to come. the bad news here, you still have to pay your taxes, carol. you still have to pay your taxes. you will not be able to dodge any of that even if your
government shuts down. congress will be paid, the president will be paid, those are essential offices overall and the cost of all of this, we're running into millions of dollars a day. last time in it was $1.4 billion for the shutdown in '95. it's counterproductive, wasted time for people and wasted money, too. >> christine romans, thanks, i think. still could come in "the newsroom" f congress cannot reach a deal before midnight what will it mean for job creation and the nation's long-term economic health? we'll talk about that next.
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the u.s. senate convenes at 2:00 a.m. this afternoon, expected to shoot down a house bill that would fund the government but delay obama care for a year. the senate will come one a new plan and send it back to the house and not many think a deal will come in time. so let's talk now what a government shutdown would mean for the nation's bottom line. rana farouhar joins me now. >> good morning.
>> our politicians say they care deeply about job creation. in light of what's going on, a, are they fibbing, b, living in a bubble or c, are they clueless about what really drives our economy? >> hmm, i might have to say d, all of the above. if you look, if you look at the statistics that are out there, every week that we would be in a government shutdown would save about 0.2% off of growth. doesn't sound like that much but in a month an entire percentage point of an economy growing a little above 2%. it's a serious head wind. >> this says it creates uncertainty in the economy and that means like maybe a major retailer like target won't be so willing to hire new people because the government can't seem to come up with one major plan on how to run our economy. >> absolutely, and i think that you can see the disconnect already. stock prices are still up, but that's because the federal reserve has been pumping so much
money into the economy in part because they're worried about the beltway bombshell that may be coming down the road here. if you look at consumer confidence it's down off its peaks, business confidence is down, sales at big firms like walmart for example has been weak recently. you can see a lot of people out there are concerned and are already feeling the pain. >> there are some who say a short term shutdown, short term government shutdown will probably not have a major effect on our economy. we've been through it before and the stock market went up eventually. but a week's long shutdown coupled with the fight over the debt ceiling could have catastrophic effects so tell us what those effects might be. >> that's right. the fact that we have these two events coming up, you've got, you know, this need to pass federal spending authority by tomorrow, but then in just a few weeks, you need to raise the debt limit in order for the government to keep paying its bills. those two events being to close together and back to back have
not happened before. if we had problems raising the debt ceiling and went into another potential shutdown or heaven forbid refused to pay our bills to creditors, that would be a major economic event of the kind that we have not really seen before, and there was one small technical default on debt in 1979 for silly reasons, word processing program failed, but even that caused interest rates to rise over a half a percentage point and that resulted in additional $12 billion in interest payments taxpayers had to pick up. that's a tiny little thing. if we were to have a serious default that would be a catastrophic event. >> could it throw us back into a recession? >> yes, i think if we defaulted on our debt and really failed to come to some resolution about the debt ceiling and you had an ongoing shutdown, absolutely, it could. >> rana foroohar, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. still to come, the sensational murder case that rippled around the world.
this morning the retrial of american amanda knox, is under way, but she's not there. we'll talk about that. but first, what you have to say about a possible government shutdown. words fail me, we've got ourselves in this position where we can't compromise to the point we got to shut the government down. that's what i think. >> reporter: who do you blame for this position we're in now? >> everybody. >> we spend way too much money. i think obama care is a total disaster and i think it needs to be defunded, so whatever it takes to do that, i'm for it. >> i think that everybody should get together and just review the plans at hand and us being americans we need to come together on certain things, we've been through a lot of turmoil as far as 9/11 and a few other things. katy perry is coming to town. can we get tickets, please???
the way to america or the other way around. in italy a retrial is under way for amanda knox, the washington exchange student accused of murdering her british roommate. she was first convicted and then acquitted and now she faces a new trial, but knox is not going to be there. she's not going to return to italy. cnn's erin mclaughlin is in london to tell us more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carol. today was largely a procedural hearing. the defendants asked for new tests on evidence at the crime scene. we now know that the jury will be comprised of two judges and four what they call popular judges which participate in the discussion. now, as for what this is all about, two years ago both amanda knox and raffaele sollecito were acquitted but now they're facing a new trial, a new trial for the murder of 21-year-old meredith kercher. the latest chapter in amanda knox's long legal battle begins
today in florence, italy, with a new appeals trial for the 2007 murder of her british roommate, meredith kercher. knox will not be in court for the retrial. concerned about returning to the country where she spent four years behind bars. >> i'm afraid to go back there. i don't want to go back into prison. i don't want them to all of a sudden do a court order when i'm there, just respecting the court and going there and the prosecution ask that i be put in preventative detention again. i mean, i was there for four years. >> reporter: at 22 years old, knox was convicted of brutally killing kercher in the villa they shared in the small italian town of wperusia. that ruling was overturned in 2011 due to lack of evidence and she returned home to seattle. >> thank you to everyone who has believed in me. >> reporter: but those cries of relief in no way signaled the end of the legal ordeal.
in march, italy's highest court ordered at quital overturned saying significant evidence had been neglected, evidence that supported the prosecutor's theory that knox and her then boyfriend rafael sollecito killed concerner in a twisted sex game gone wrong. >> what happened with the supreme court send the case back to court of apeel, may be interpreted by the american authorities as double jeopardy, twice tried for the same fact, same case. in italy it's not like this because this is still the same trial. >> reporter: if convicted, knox will be ordered to return to italy. if she refuses, italy could request her extradition from the united states. and while she won't be in court, knox says she'd be willing to take a lie detector test. >> i'd do anything to prove my innocence. i don't think that's necessary, but like i said, i'm doing everything i can to prove my
innocence. i just think that it's very sad that that is what it has come to. >> amanda knox is not the only one watching this trial from afar. her former boyfriend, raffaele sollecito tells cnn he's in the dominican republic with a friend. meanwhile meredith kercher's family remains here in the united kingdom. her brother today submitted a letter to the court saying their parents are too ill to attend the trial. we can only imagine how difficult this must be for them. carol? >> erin mclaughlin, thank you so much, reporting live from london. checking other top stories, ntsb investigators are on the scene of a plane crash at the santa monica airport. no one survived. there's no word how many people were on board but the jet can carry up to nine people. more than a dozen car bombs exploded on crowded streets in baghdad this morning. reuters says the attacks killed at least 54 people.
more than 100 others were wounded. the attacks appear to be targeting predominantly she "headline news tonight" muslim neighborhoods. pope john xxiii and john paul ii will be declared saints april 27th. to become a saint a person needs to lead a holy life and perform two miracles. in money news, bank fees have been spiking for 15 straight years, this according to "usa today" and bankrate.com. both say overdraft fees and out of fee network costs have hit all-time highs. overdraft charges average $32.20 and pay an average of $4.13 if you use another bank's atm. and two boaters from the florida keys getting up close and personal with waterspouts. they were fishing for lobster when they came face to face with that and they steered their boat right into them.
that can be deadly but johnson is a veteran charter boat captain and really brave. he says he's done it twice before but only when conditions were right. still to come in "the newsroom" just the idea of a government shutdown is eating away at some of our savings, our investments. we're headed live to wall street for the ohm bell and a look at what the uncertainty in washington is doing to the dow. we'll be right back.
good morning. i'm carol costello. thanks so much for joining me. we're watching the opening bell on wall street closely because investors are worried about a possible government shutdown, that could start in less than 15 hours. zain asher is at the new york stock ex-change. all right, we're ready. hit us. >> hey, carol.
this is going to be very interesting to watch. we know the markets hate uncertainty. pretty much got a little over 14:30 to go before a potential government shutdown. [ bell ringing ] now the futures are down about 150 points. stocks have been taking a hit the last few days. traders i spoke to say they're hoping washington will strike an 11th hour deal but if they don't there is some fear about what sort of effects this is going to have on the economy. even though stocks have recovered quickly from previous government shutdowns, if the government shuts down for one week that could reduce quarterly economic growth by 0.1%. another problem is that investors may not have anything to trade on if key economic reports are not released. the most important, carol, being the jobs report, we don't know whether friday's jobs report will come out, that has traders scratching their heads and lastly, for investors who are worried about their 401(k)s, bottom line, sit tight, stocks will almost certainly rebound and this might be a buying
opportunity for people who have been waiting on the sidelines. >> that's looking at the glass half full. if the stock market tanks today that might put some pressure on lawmakers to come to some sort of agreement. >> yes, absolutely. you know, i do also want to mention that the s&p 500, if you look at previous government shutdowns the s&p 500 fell about 3.7% during the last shutdown from '95 to '96 and it rebounded higher by about 10% the month following so it's going to be interesting to see but this is a little bit different because the market has so much to digest, the shutdown, the debt ceiling, third quarter earnings as well, tapering and the jobs report, too. this will be interesting to watch. >> it's already interesting to watch. the bell rang what 1:30 ago and we're already down 148 points. despite what's happening on wall street many conservative republicans are sticking to their guns insisting that tying government spending to obama
care is the only move they could make to save the country's economy. cnn's erin mcpike has more for you. >> reporter: after stints as a staffer at the bush white house and on capitol hill, tim griffin ran for congress in 2010, promising he'd end obama care. as a political guy, are you worried about how house republicans are going to look to the public in a month? >> well, the president has a bully pulpit certainly and he's going to do everything he can to make us look bad. >> reporter: like many of his house gop colleagues, he's insisting on tying funding the government to defunding obama care. why the brinksmanship? why the insistence? >> i will say that in a lot of our districts, the voices are quite strong in favor of that. you know, some districts stronger than others, but there
is a loud cry out there on obama care to do whatever we can do to delay it, to defund it, to whatever it. >> reporter: especially in the little rock district he represents back in arkansas. but is it realistic? >> it's a false choice to say it's obama care or nothing. it's obama care or the old way. >> reporter: what about this -- >> there are 100 different ways in between. >> reporter: is there a way to keep obama care and amend it greatly to your liking? >> no, because the entire structure, the entire structure is based on washington making central decisions in an industrial factory age type mentality, and telling everybody out in the states, thousands of miles away, this is the way it has to work. >> reporter: he admits the stakes are high. >> i don't want the government to shut down. i don't think it's good policy. i don't think it's good politics. >> reporter: erin mcpike, cnn,
capitol hill. >> government shutdown would impact many first time home buyers, too. loans guaranteed by the fha, the veterans administration and the department of agriculture would not be processed. rene marsh is in washington with that side of the story. good morning. >> good morning, carol. first time home buyers, low and moderate income borrowers will feel it if the shutdown draws out. it will take longer for the federal housing authority to endorse single family loans and the agency will not approve or underwrite any new loans. so what's the overall impact for the housing market? well the agency says if the shutdown is brief, it will not be significant, but if the shutdown lasts, potential homeowner, home sellers and the entire housing market will be impacted. we could also see a decline in home sales during an extended shutdown period. of course that would mean the reversal of an upward trend that we have seen so far in the housing market.
>> a lot of other things would be affected, too. let's start with food safety for example. >> that's right. when it comes to food safety, we're talking about the usda, also talking about the fda. when it comes to the usda, they will continue meat inspections but the food and drug administration will not be able to support the majority of its food safety nutrition and cosmetics activities. it will have to stop routine inspections, but they still will continue to issue high-risk recalls. carol? >> what about the centers for disease control? >> well the cdc they say they will be limited in their efforts as well, although be limited in their efforts to investigate disease outbreaks like the flu, if the shutdown doesn't last very long, this won't have an impact on you and i, but if it does last for a long time, the agency will find itself in a position where they will not be able to track things like the flu and as we all know, flu season is right around the
corner. carol? >> we do, rene marsh reporting live from washington. still to come, will our military still get paid if the government shuts down? well, sort of. come mid-october they'll just get a big fat iou from uncle sam. seriously. details after this. but first what you have to say about the government shutdown. >> reporter: what's your message to washington? >> behave. behave. you know, you guys are highly intelligent, and it seems like that the more intelligent we get, the more we can't fix problems. >> stop being child ir. >> i think the government shutting down is a mass of confusion and they've been talking about that off and on for the past several years and i think some people are just out of their depth and they're operating on pure adrenalin. they don't really know what to do, just telling us something to keep us quiet.
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>> if i ran my house the way the government is running the country i'd be bankrupt. >> pass the budget and pass the debt limit, you've made your point. let us keep improving the economy. don't play games anymore, please. >> soldier also start receiving those ious come mid-october. many of you want to see congress get its act together and pass a bill to keep the government running. john king breaks down the latest cnn/orc poll numbers on the gridlock in washington. >> first and foremost, there is no question the american people think this is a bad idea to have that shuttown clock run to zero. look, seven in ten americans, 68% say it would be a bad thing to shut the government down for a few days. what about the prospect of a shutdown that ran on longer for a few weeks, hard to get eight and ten americans to agree on any political question but they agree on this, bad to shut the
government down for more than a few weeks w. 40 to 50 of the most conservative members of the house, four or five of the most conservative members of the senate. they think they're on safe ground with the voters back home. 56% of tea party supporters think it's good to shut down the government. if we come back to the national numbers if this happens, who would the american people think is most responsible? 36% say the president is responsible but nearly half say the republicans responsible and 13% both. the president on safer ground at the moment on the question of responsibility. this is interesting again how you vote impacts what you think of this political brinksmanship. if you're democrat you blame republicans and if you're republican you blame the president. the president has a sales case to make to the middle of the
electorate as this debate goes on. some republicans say we're on safe ground here because the american people don't like the president's health care law and it's true. our new poll shows 57%, nearly six in ten americans oppose obama care, however, this is a critical distinction. break that number down, 11% of those who opposed the president's health care law oppose it because they think it didn't go far enough. they wanted a single payer system or more government involvement so that is a critical point as republicans say hey the american people oppose this law. some oppose it not for the reasons republicans cite. what's the fundamental question of this debate right now as that clock ticks down? what's most important for the congress to do, avoid a government shutdown or block parts of the health care law? six in ten americans say it's more important to avoid the government shutdown, that number speaks for itself. here's what's all new in the next hour of "cnn newsroom" an ex-nfl player's home trashed by partying teens. you remember that. instead of going after them he went into dad mode.
>> i don't want to be haunted looking over a casket ten years from now of 30 of those kids who are dead. >> but a local radio host says it isn't enough. she has her own message for the kids and especially their parents. plus stunning new details on the nsa surveillance program. >> americans assume a right to a certain kind of privacy, that usually starts at the door to their home. >> just what the government knows about who you interact with, that's all new in the next hour of "cnn newsroom." play close.
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welcome back. keeping our eye on the stock market today. so far stocks down, oh, show me the number, about 139 points. let's go to new york and check in with christine romans. actually we thought it would be worse. >> it's off the lows of the morning but look, clearly carol, investors do not like what they're seeing from washington. you've seen the polling about the spoiled children that washington politicians are being and how that's holding, you know, the business of the american government at risk here, investors do not like to see that at all. carol, one thing i'm noticing is even gold is down a little bit which is sort of interesting. sometimes you see this rush into the safe haven of gold. you're not seeing that so much today and again 15,100 level seems to be holding support for the dow jones industrial average. watch this space. we have a rough week ahead of us
if they can't get this reinvolved today. mark zandi from moody's agrees you could see $ 00 million of economic activity vanish every day and it will get magnified as the shutdown goes on. carol, if this goes on for three or four weeks you could cut economic growth in half, that's not good for anybody. >> christine romans i know you'll be keeping an eye on things, we appreciate it. more on the government shutdown in a minute but first checking other top stories at 47 minutes past the hour. how successful is bp at stopping the gulf oil spill and how much oil was released? those questions are the center of the second phase of a trial beginning today against bp and its partners. testimony is expected to last a month with the jhung's ruling possibly happening next year. two automakers are recalling more than a quarter million vehicles. some doors in mazda 6 sedans could open while the car is in motion and some of nissan's
infinity m35 and m45 models could stall when the car comes to a stop or is idling. no injuries are reported from either problem. millions of "breaking bad" fans heartbroken over the dramatic finale but the series can live on only if you got cash. hundreds of props from the hit show are going up for auction, you can own memorable pieces of the show like walter white's lab gear to his famous 2004 pontiac az heck. so aztec, sorry, not in drivable condition. even his iconic undies. spoiler alert we're about to reveal the ending to last night's big "breaking bad" finale. my producer of this program is probably running out of the control room with her ears covered because she hasn't watched it yet. i'm giving you time to do the same. okay. cnn entertainment correspondent
nischelle turner has a look back at the bitter gen sweet conclusion. >> should make one hell of a story. >> reporter: indeed it should. "breaking bad" cooked up quite an ending. the chemistry teacher turned meth maker was busy in the finale, as always walter white took care of his family. >> i earned it and you're going to give it to my children. >> reporter: and took care of his enemies. even white's ex-partner jesse got to settle a score. in the final moments, white, the man also known as heiseburg was shot and died, fittingly in a meth lab. critics loved the ending and it seems many fans did, too, from facebook to twitter, everyone was talking. >> i liked it. >> reporter: famous folks liked it, too. jimmy fallon called the finale, tight, tight, tight. ellen degenerous tweeted no more murderous drug dealers and horrifying criminals, i miss it
already. zach brett "i can't believe walt was a woman the whole time, awesome ending." show creator vince gillian and the cast even got into the spirit at a charity screening and q&a in hollywood. >> we needed to dot all the is and cross all the ts and needed resolution. >> reporter: resolution is something that's often the "lost" fin nale left a lot questions unanswered and we still don't know about the "soprano's" cut to black. but when "mash" wrapped up 30 years ago, there wasn't a dry eye in the homes of thousands of viewer viewers. the stage was left burning white hot with the public's imagination, and the high ratings and the best drama emmy win. >> it is over. and i needed a proper good-bye. >> mr. white, i'd say you got
every monday, it seems that we talk about how awesome peyton manning is, and we have to do it again, because he is awesome, andy. >> what we can say? they are unstoppable. can anybody shut them down? it doesn't look like it. he threw four more touchdowns in the blowout over the eagles. he now has 16 touchdowns and the most ever by a quarterback in the first month of the season, and denver, ooh, they put up 52 points in yesterday's win. that is a franchise record. up next are the 4-0 broncos is a trip to the dallas to take on the cowboys. the patriots are trying to keep pace with the broncos in atlanta taking on the falcons last night, and while tom brady and the company are not putting up the record-setting numbers, but they are finding the ways to get it done. they held off a late falcons' rally, and aqib talib bats down this pass, and they improve to 4-0. the falcons are a big d
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good morning. i'm carol costello, and thank you so much for joining me. congress on the edge and on notice. we go live to the house as it returns to session this morning. lawmakers have less than 14 hours to avoid a government showdown and the hope dwindles, anger builds. according to a new cnn/orc poll, most americans believe it is the republican lawmakers acting like spoiled children in the stalemate, and 6 in 10 blame the democrats and half of them say that it is president obama's fault, and a disgust with washington seems to cross the party lines. >> i wish that the people we elected into office would do their jobs. seems like a lot of grandstanding from the people they are trying to win the votes from rather than doing what is best for the country. >> it is another scheme to get us citizens very worried and try to get us on board with an agenda that we don't want.
i think that it is politician's efforts to really just put their agendas through and not get the work done. >> the impact of a shutdown would be far reaching. it would hurt the economy and putting a hold on the paychecks and hiring. some 783,000 federal workers would face unpaid leave, and this morning, wall street is facing a hit. investors hate uncertainty, and stocks are down quite a bit this morn morning. we will take you to wall street in a second. also, it is affecting everything from home buying to small businesses. now it is worth noting that 3/4 of all government employees will go the work even if there is a shutdown. and that is 2.5 million workers deemed essential employees like postal workers and members of the military. we are covering all of the angles of this story from t-- w house to the capitol hill, and now we start with brianna keilar outside of the white house. good morning, brianna. >> good morning, carol.
the white house is keeping an eye on the senate as they are expected to take up the house bill and dismantle it and send it back. barring some unexpected breakthrough, it looks like we are headed for the government shutdown. >> this is the old football str strategy. >> reporter: house republicans rallied on the steps of the capitol calling for the senate to come back to work, an inside, a ghost town, and not long after the house gop passed a bill in the early morning hours sunday. >> a motion to reconsider is laid on the table. >> reporter: it funds the government, but delays obama care for one year. now, just hours to go before a deadline for a deal, the first government shutdown in 17 years seems all but certain. the blame game in full swing with republicans on preemptive damage control. >> so far, ma jjority leader hay reid has essentially told house of representatives and the american people to go jump in a lake. >> he is saying that 100% of the obama care or the highway, and
the president is the one saying that i will shutdown government if you don't give me everything that i want on obama care. >> reporter: they argue that they have budged demanding the president's health care program be delayed after initially funding to de-fund it all together, but senate democrat harry reid won't put the latest house-passed bill up for vote, and president obama who met sunday afternoon with the economic team at the white house has threatened a veto of any measure that delays or changes obama care. >> let me repeat it, it is not going to happen. >> reporter: and the senate is expected to strip out the obama care delay today and send it right back to the house. meanwhile, the clock is ticking to midnight when a government shutdown would close national parks and furlough hundreds of thousands of federal workers and stall passport applications, but there was one area of agreement, a passage of no tax on medical
devices. >> i am willing to look at that, but not with the gun to my head, with the prospect of shutting down the government. >> reporter: now, there are two chances where we could hear from president obama today. he is going to be meeting with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu in the 11:00 hour, and we will get video around noon or so of that, carol, and he has a cabinet meeting later in the 4:00 hour meeting with the cabinet. obviously, to discuss the looming shutdown and what exactly this means for the administration, so we will be keeping our eyes and ears open for any of the comments that the president may make on this, carol. >> all right. brianna keilar reporting live from the white house this mor g morning. so now you know the politics of the government shutdown, but what about the bigger picture? trust in government. my next guest says that the stalemate is more concern of lawmakers with grandstanding than governing. john avalon is executive
director of the daily beast. good morning, john. >> good morning, carol. >> so i went to a pink floyd cover band concert this weekend and when they came to the lines, " "mother, can i trust the government" and people were on their feet shouting "no!" and it was kind of scary. >> well, trust in government is going down and it is not just congress' historically low ratings, but the recent poll shows that congress is acting like spoiled children in 1 of 7 americans. we elect congress with the idea that they will act like adults and be responsible at the heart of representative democracy, and the dereliction of duty and the hijacking of the caucus by ideological members who doesn't have an end game or solution further erodes the people's already frayed trust in government. that becomes a larger problem.
when the strategic competitors around the world look at the fact that the u.s. congress is the single most liability to the economic recovery, they laugh at us, and that should frustrate folks on main street as well. the congress is in large part the problem right now, and that goes to the heart of the faith in government. >> so let me ask you a hard question. what do we do about it? what can we do about it? i mean, people elect these people into office, right? >> well, i don't believe in kicking the can to the next election. i do believe it is one of the moments where the average americans need to speak as loud as the activists, and if they are frustrated with the government gridlock and dysfunction and the fact that the divided government means dysfunctional government, they need to speak up to have their voices heard. it is so often the activist class on either side with a disproportionately loud voice. the folks on capitol hill need to hear the pain of acting like spoiled children, and not coming
togeth together. people realize because you saw the messaging from the conservatives on the sunday shows trying to flip the script, if you will, and saying that it is the president who is being absolutist, and unwilling to compromise, and the polls show that compromise is value that americans do everyday, but absent from the playbook they are per suing, and so some folks think it is a shutdown that is needed for the real think cheit and the people to stop living in fantasy ideology and not fiscal reality when things hit the financial crisis. >> what is the prediction? will the government shutdown, because the analysts believe 99.9% chance it will. >> and carol, i hate to make you sound more discouraged, but the senate is not getting to this midday, a nennd then flurry bacd forth, but right now, the clock
is ticking, and all of the smart money on the shutdown and what then? pressure ahead? better to have the shutdown now to compel the people to come together or mid month when the debt ceiling is coming soon, because then it is not grandstanding, but the full faith and credit of the united states and that is a gut shot. >> and speaking of wall street, let's go to the new york stock exchange where zain asher is, and the dow is coming down 127 point, and bring us up to date. >> yes, we are also down on the dow right now, and yes, 17 years since the market has come face-to-face with a potential government shutdown, and this market is constantly showing us just how fragile it is. the last two government shutdowns in 1995 didn't deaden the markets and the stocks rose in the month after the last government shutdown, the market rose 5%, but the impact today
looks more negative, because we are down ability 130 points. and the market is used to stalemates in washington, but this is a little bit more aggressive, because it is not just about the shutdown, but the debt ceiling debate on the horizon, too, and not raising the debt ceiling has a much bigger effect, because you have the full faith and credit of the united states is in jeopardy and that could hurt business confidence, but overall, what is interesting is that traders downstairs are crossing their fingers hoping that the government does not shutdown. they are hedging just in case, but that is why the dow is down 130 points burk the hope here is that washington will try their best to pull us back from the ledge. carol. >> i hope so, zain asher, thank you so much. a government shutdown could affect the reporting of a key snapshot of the economy, the jobs report due out friday, but maybe not this friday. cnn's christine romans has that side of the story. good morning. >> doesn't that show you how crazy it is, that something as important as a job report, and something that we rely on and the fed relies on to figure out
how the economy is healing that a self-inflicted wound from washington could delay that or cause it not to be reported? here is the status of the jobs report. you could see the bls, the bureau of labor statistics, furlough all of the statisticians and economists, and who puts that number together? an executive order saying or some kind of executive action saying, no, we need the skeleton crew to put it together and release it as normal on friday, and so we are watching to find out. but carol, that is what happens in the government shutdown, you are doing the defense, and not doing the daily business for the american people, but instead, you not doing any business and that highlights how dangerous it s. the job number one is to create jobs, and that is what washington has been saying it wants to do, but what we expect to see from the jobs report is that 180,000 jobs report and unemployment rate of 7.3%, which is still more work needs to be done, but the real risk, carol, if you have a shutdown and some big fight over the debt ceiling
in just a few weeks, that kind of job creation will slow quite quickly, and the cost of a shutdown by some estimates starts at maybe $200 million a day, and then rapidly getting more expensive as the days wear on. if you saw the four-week shutdown, carol, mark zandi at moody's says it will cut the economic growth in half, and that is not going to create any jobs. and if you go over the debt ceiling and you don't raise the debt ceiling, that is sending a signal to the world, and the borrowing costs up, and making the debts and the deficits worst at the time when we are arguing about growing debts and deficits, and so that the world is upsidedown, and the shutdown is just proof of that. >> oh! i guess i have to agree with that even though i don't want to. christine romans live for us in new york this morning. still to come in the newsroom, the tea party is back front and center in fight to de-fund obama care, as we look at the looming government shutdown. i will talk to the leader of the
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about ted cruz's 21-hour speech. >> yes. 21 hours. >> and during ted cruz's 21-hour anti-obama care speech, he read a dr. seuss book. he said it is what he like tots read in the hospital when they are wasting our resources. >> and the group that actively persuaded congress to do what they could to defend obama care, the head of the tea party. welcome, amy. i don't know if you heard john avalon say on the air, that he said that extremists are running the government, and by that he means the tea party extremists. how do you respond? >> i have to disagree, because there is nothing extreme about it. the house democrats voted to delay the employer and individual mandate, and the house is the most direct form of representation, and those people
are connected to the constituents and the democrats voted with the republicans, and why would harry reid not take it up on the floor, and we would end up at this point with the spending -- >> well, amy, let me ask you, when obama care was passed by both houses of congress, and upheld by the supreme court as constitutional, and president obama was re-elected and why should the democrats compromise on that? why should they? >> because carol, it is not working. it is not ready for the implementation, and this is fact that -- >> well, it is the law of the land, why would they and why would that tie in with the budget? >> well, so was prohibition. the senate won't discuss it unless we have this right now. right now, nobody is talking to us, and twice we have sent the crs to the senate, and it is, i mean, we don't know what is going to happen now, but where is harry reid? instead of going to work yesterday and calling them back into session, he is not there, and the president is golfing over the weekend and where is
the house? they are there working, and how can you negotiate anything when one side is unwilling to negotiate. the republicans have negotiated. we wanted full repeal. we didn't get it. we wanted to defund. we didn't get defund, and now, delay it for a year, and even senator joe manchin said he would support a one-year delay, and he is a democrat, and he is listening to the people. it is not working. >> and some people might say that the senate is not negotiating right now, because basically the house has lost and it can't win this battle, and it is going to continue fighting in the face of a government shutdown which is going to cost us $200 million a day. >> i disagree. what have the president and harry reid given? nothing. the president stands up in maryland and gives a speech, and then within an hour or two hours later the white house is admitting that the small business exchanges are not ready and bad news after bad news, and this is about fairness.
he has given exemptions for delays for big business, special interests, and even congress. i mean, what about fairness for the american people? this is about fairness. why should the average middle-class american be, i mean, subjected to the enactment of this? >> it will hurt the average middle-class americans the most. >> harry reid wants the government to shutdown, and no republican is advocating for it. >> and everyone is saying that known wants it to shutdown, and if the tea party has 22% of the support of the american people, how it is representing a larger portion of what america wants? >> well, the approval rating is still higher than congress'. >> true. >> and democrats are with us, and they have said that they support a one-year delay. why not delay it? why not delay it for a year and have that conversation? that is reasonable. >> and you understand that the
health care exchanges go into effect at midnight. >> well, most of them are not going to be open, because there are problems, and this is a real issue, and harry reid is pushing this, because he thinks it is a political win in 2014, and quite honestly, it is a diversion with what is really going on with the act and the problems with the implementation. and to say otherwise is not true. >> i am not saying that there are not problems with obama care, but they don't want it tied with the federal budget. they want obama care dealt with in another way, and why not another way? >> well, the thing is that they won't even negotiate with us on anythi anything. do think think they would have this conversation another way? we ended up here because the president and harry reid threatened to shutdown the government if the sequester was not rolled back. they believe it is a good political win for them come 2014 and that is the objective. >> final question, if the
government shuts down, is it a victory for you? >> no, i don't want the government to shutdown. nobody wants the government to shutdown. no one does, and we want to negotiate with harry reid and the president, and they won't e negotiate with us. the president is talking to the irans, and not to republicans. it is ridiculous. we need to get together to have discussions, but we have given and made concessions, and what have they given? nothing. >> and what concessions have you made? >> well, we went from repeal to delay. i just said, from repeal to defend to delay. >> and the goal is still to get rid of obama care. and you want to delay a year, but isn't the ultimate goal to get rid of obama care. >> well, obviously, right now -- >> well, that is the goal. so really it is not a compromise, because the final goal is to get rid of it? >> no, it is a compromise, and we are at the cr, we are
allowing the president to spend at deficit spending levels, and so, what have they given? what have they given to us? nothi nothing. nothing. >> well, you said they have delayed parts of the law for big business. >> well, that is not part -- >> you did say that. >> and they did that back in the summer, and so that is not part of what is going on here. >> okay. well, we could argue this way forever, amy. but i do want to go back to capitol hill, because the house speaker john boehner, and the house is back in session, and they are work, and you are right about that, amy, and house speaker john boehner spoke a short time ago, and we will listen to what he had to say. >> the american people are worried about their job. they are worried about their incomes rising, because they are all under pressure, and the economy is not growing, and why isn't it growing? well, one of the issues that is standing in the way is obama care. it is time for the senate to listen to the american people, and just like the house is listening to the american people. >> i can see you are nodding
there. amy, the senate goes back in session not until 2:00 p.m. eastern, and i guess we will see what happens. amy cremer, thank you. >> thank you for having me. the nsa is back in the spotlight and accusing facebook and social media accounts to monitor americans. the details are next. quote today. i love it! how much do you love it? animation is hot...and i think it makes geico's 20 million drivers message very compelling, very compelling. this is some really strong stuff! so you turned me into a cartoon...lovely. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. it's not a candy bar. 130 calories 7 grams of protein
shocking new revelations about the scope of the nsa surveillance program. it involves what we do online, and the details are in "the new york times," adding fuel to the growing concern over privacy rights. pamela brown is in new york with more. good morning, pamela. >> well, good morning to you, carol. according to "the new york times" the social mapping of certain citizens who officials believe have a foreign intelligence link have been going on since november of 2010. as one privacy expert put it, it is the digital equivalent of tailing a suspect. >> reporter: the nsha is not ony tracking the met ta data from your e-mails and phonelogs, they are using the day to have a sophisticated web of social weapons of documents leaked to "the new york times." >> we assume that if the government is looking at your information it is because they have a reason and you are suspected of a crime.
>> reporter: in this nsa powerpoint presentation shows how they use a person's social information to track their personal information. according the leaks of government contractor information leaked by eric snowedden. when there is a link between an intelligence system overseas and u.s. citizen. they can also draw profiles and gps information and property and commercial information and bank information from these analogs. >> we know from the leaks that this is how the government is operating, operating, and that a broader swath of people are included in the mix. >> reporter: the nsa says that there is a false perception that the nsa reads the phone calls and e-mailings of everyday americans in an effort to profile u.s. citizens, but it is
not the case. the chief keith alexander says that the person's data is analyzed only when there is a foreign indication. some argue that the surveillance efforts are keeping americans safer, critics say that the latest disclosure is yet another example of how the nsa is infringing on american's privacy. >> americans assume a certain right to privacy that usually starts at the door to their home. >> and "the new york times" says that the leaked documents do not specify how many american citizens have been targeted by the nsa for social mapping, and how many have been involved in wrongdoing. and in the wake of the disclosure, obama has ordered a full review of the nsa full procedure, and here we go again, more leaked documents. >> pam brown, thank you so much. as the clock is ticking
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good morning. i'm carol costello, and thank you for joining me. the senate is expected to convene this afternoon and expected to shoot down a house spending bill to delay the president's health care law and that means that the government shutdown could be hours away. congressman steve israel, a democrat from new york is with me now. good morning, congressman. >> thank you for having me on, carol. >> thank you for being with me. i don't know if you have had the pleasure of the latest poll, but 50% believe that republicans are acting like spoiled children, and even 60% believe republicans
are at fault. >> well, we should remind people what this is about, carol. this is a continuing resolution, and this is about what level do we fund government? the initial debate was that the republicans wanted a lower level, and the democrats wanted a slightly higher level, and we have agreed to the lower level. we have agreed with the republicans. they have to learn how to take yes for an answer. >> and that is what many americans are blaming both side of the aisle, and asking this question, if the government does shutdown, are you willing to suspend your pay? >> no, i don't agree with that at all, and here is why. we have a congress that is composed of a lot of elites, and so if you are a member of congress and you are a multimillion je multimillionai multimillionaire, and you don't know what it is like to be in the middle-class, your congress money is pay money, and some of us represent middle-class districts and some of us are in the middle-class, so to say to members of congress that you are not going to be paid, it helps
those who don't need the pay, and unfair to those who use the paychecks to pay the mortgages and things of that nature. >> well, congressman, that does not make anybody feel better out there, because they want you to the pay in some way for their pain. >> how about this, carol? how about those of us who have shown an ability to compromise and have shown reasonableness and have agreed to the republican budget number that is low, we should get paid. but those who are saying that we should bring down the government over continuing the affordable care act or that we should shutdown the government because it is their way or no way, maybe they are the ones who shouldn't be paid. so maybe we should get a performance bonus for those of us who are willing to compromise, and if you take a look at the fiscal cliffs and every single shutdown and showdown, it is a as a matter of fact that democrats stepped up to compromise, whether it was hurricane sandy relief or the fiscal cliff on january 1st or the continuing resolutioresolut.
those who say there is room for agreement should be paid and those who say my way or the highway and it veers to the far right, they shouldn't be paid. >> all right. let me lay it on you, and republicans say that the democrats are using the old strategy of passing something and then send it to the house too late to avert a shutdown. i know you in the house, but why aren't the senators working right now? why are they waiting until 2:00 this afternoon to convene? >> well, because they said to the house of representatives, the republican majority in the house of representatives on saturday, that we will agree to your preference for a lower budget figure, and we are just not going to defend the affordable care act. so can we at least compromise of the lower budget figure, and then negotiate going forward -- >> and the fact is that they want to compromise to delay the obama care -- >> well, they double downed, carol.
they said we will take away a woman's right to contraception if sheability was, and by the way, put all of the other poison pill pills in. and a compromise would say n is a budget, and so we will agree and all agree on the lower figure on the budget, and negotiate going forward, but the compromise was not a compromise, but to demand more. learn how the take yes for an answer and get it done. this is avoidable if reasonable people will agree to some solutions, rather than the constant game playing. >> your prediction, will the government shutdown? >> i hope not, carol. i hope that those who actually compared, like one member of congress, what is happening to 9/111 a 1 1 and said "let's rol shut the government down is the voice of the minority, and that the house republicans can find something to agree on and what we can agree on is the low budget figure, and don't put
pressure on the other stuff to get the deal done. >> thank you, congressman. appreciate it. home buyers who have applied for fha-backed loans will have to put the plans on hold if there is a government shutdown. christine romans is in new york with more on that. >> yes, that is right, carol. these are fha-backed loans and if you haven't had that endorsement yet from the fha, you have to wait until after the shutdown is over. let me tell you exactly what we are talking about, fha-backed loans which are 45% of all mortgages last year and comes out to 60,000 a month, and so perhaps some 60,000 deals that could fall through, and the shutdown affects this agency when you look at the hud, the housing of urban development, which is the, you know, the i guess the parent agency for fha loans will have 8,900 of the workers sent home, carol. sent home. and only 350 will stay there. and less than 4% of the staff so
it is a skeleton staff, and they will no longer be able to do these loans as a result of a shutdown. but fannie mae and freddie mac guarantee the vast ma jjority o the home loans are funded by fees, and that will keep going. so when you look at the folks watching the real estate market, and the real estate recovery has been tentative and worries of the higher mortgage rates could be slowing the housing recovery and a lot of people are watching this to see if maybe the shutdown is a problem for the recovery at this point. carol? >> well, they have 13 hours the go. we will see what happens. christine romans, thank you so muc much. >> you are welcome. still to come on the newsroom, will the last person at capitol hill turn out the lights? the government shutdown is now 13 hours away. what will exactly happen? details coming up next. before we go to the break, this is what some of you told cnn about the shutdown threat and the lawmakers making it all possible. >> words fail me really that we
have gotten ourselves in this kind of position where we can't, we can't compromise to the point that we have to shut the government down. >> it is terrible, and it shows the malfunction of the government process. >> it is a shame that they behave worse than my own kids behave. they can't just sit down, and come to the agreement about something, and work it out. it is affecting everybody around us.
talking about single grand event, but a series of vents that start with the shutdown. if you go to the airport, it will be operating, and the military and the customs and the border patrol are in business and the postal system and the banks are all open, and the federal courts, and all of the local services paid for by your local taxes like schools and police and firemen are still in business. still, "usa today" did an analysis where they said that 40% of the government would shutdown. that has got to be producing an effect somewhere, and so let's bring in tex int lhe next layerk about that. if you go to a national museum or national park, it may be closed or if you need a loan for your home, you will find that is it a slow process. if you need a passport or gun permit, that may also be slowed down, and there may be a delay in some federal checks like social security although
generally lawmakers try to keep that from happening, and then the real immediate effect, if for example you are a federal worker, you could be told to go home, and you won't get a pay check until this thing is over, and then retroactive pay which has happened in the past is not a guaranteed thing. with all of the federal workes s missing and if you have to contact a government office to sign up for medicaid, you can't do that, and a lot of to congressional staffers will have time to go to the beach. time is what this is about. if it lasted a few days, you would probably all stay back here in the green zone and not that much aware of it and not seeing that much in terms of the results, but the longer it goes on, the more economists and analysts say that the red zone, these things would start to spill over, and more of us would feel the impact and the whole economy could ultimately suffer. >> okay. tom foreman is out of the virtual room and joining us me live from washington. tom, what are the federal
workers being told today? >> well, sol of them are being told a lot, and some of them have seen the contingency plans for the department so they have an idea of how it is going to be playing out, but some may not. by and large, the departments have seen it coming and time to draw up some plans and some of them run for dozens and dozens of pages to explain specifically what to do with the blackberrys and the phones and what to do when they go home. >> tom foreman reporting live from washington. still to come in the newsroom, his home vandalized by hundreds of partying teenagers, and now a message to system of those parents, and she is not holding back. she will join us live next. tool, you tell us what you want to pay, and we give you a range of coverages to choose from. who is she? that's flobot. she's this new robot we're trying out, mostly for, like, small stuff. wow! look at her go! she's pretty good. she's pretty good.
a wild party involving 300 teenagers who trashed a former nfl player's home in new york while he was out of town. you have heard that story before, and now a new york radio host is lashing out at the teenag teenager's parents for making threats against the homeowner brian holloway. she says instead of sitting little johnny down to say what he did is not acceptable and then dragging him by the collar to apologize to mr. holloway, how dare you respond with anything other than regret and embarrassment and sincere ap l apology instead of righteous
indignation, threats of violence and lawsuits. kelly joins us now. >> good morning, carol. >> any responses to the letter? >> oh, my gosh, yes. i posted it last friday, and kind of went about my day. i checked in later in the day, and it had taken off. it has been met with unbelievable response. i have heard from people all across the country, and even people overseas, and i think that it strikes a chord with parents everywhere who see what is happening with the way we are raising the kids and what happens down the road. it is the sense of entitlement, and the lack of accountability and the lack of responsibility, and people are angered by it. >> and you seem to be indicting all parents of the millennial generation, and is that really fair though? i mean, i know that the kids were awful and so awful, but there are many good kids in america. >> i know, i have a few of them. not every kid is bad and not every parent is bad, and the overwh overwhelming majority of the parents and the kids are really good. they are trying to instill values in their kids, and the kids want to work hard and do a
good job, but there is a set of parents out there who believe in being their parents, their kids' friend, instead of their parent who give them everything that maybe they never had, and so we are raising not an entire generation, but a good number of kids who feel they are entitled to have everything handed to them. we give every kid in sports a trophy, and parents who are raising the kids to blame the teacher for the failing math, and we give the kids iphone in middle school and wonder why they want everything handed to them directly, and they don't have to work for it. >> well, the problem has been going on for quite some time, and everybody says that the parents are changing, and this is the year they are going to chan change. why aren't parents changing, because they don't seem to be? >> well, i think that it is very easy. it is easy to be a lazy parent and say, oh, you want the iphone, here you go. it is easier to bye the iphone than listen to the kid complain
for months and days and weeks until they get it. so one part of it is seeing the generation of kids growing up to expect things, because they have gotten it all along, and that is what we see with the holloway case, they felt sbentitled to break into the man's house and have a party there. and their parents were not holding them accountable. and if i did this, and not to say i didn't make mistakes, because i did, but i would have been held accountable, and made to go apologize and clean up. and the parents are not making the kids accountable, and it is make making a lot of people angry because it is symbolic of what is going on with parenting these days. >> and mr. holloway has been so generous saying, apologize and help me clean up the home. and five of the teenagers showed up, but should he have gone another route in these times? >> well, i have to say that he was incredibly gracious man in
doing what he did. i would not have been able to rise to that, and i think that is probably what has everybody so angry. if it were a party at a house, we wouldn't be paying attention to it, but because the man went so far out of his way to say i won't press charges and come and clean up and let's use this as an opportunity and teachable moment so to speak, and use this as an opportunity to better spend our time than drinking and doing drugs and whatever, and and instead of saying, yes, you are right, and take advantage, the parents started to threaten lawsuits for putting their pictures on twitter and inst instagr instagram. and this guy wanted to help the kid kids, and instead, we are seeing this reaction and now, because they didn't step up to take responsibility, we are starting to see them charged. we saw six kids charged friday and they expect to have more, and it is the largest round up of criminals in this county, because they didn't step up and
accept responsibility from day o one. >> >> i have to say i'm so glad because that is despicable. thank you, kelly lynch, for join joining us this morning. we appreciate it. >> thank you, carol. fed up with paying the bank and the atm fees? well, you not alone. according to a new report, those charges have been climbing for 15 year s straight. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve military members, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve.
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