but there's a lot of loose language. and, unfortunately, it's getting worse rather than better, or at least it has in the last few days. and i think that's just shameful. the rest of the world thinks we're crazy on these straight policy issues, and i can understand how they come to that conclusion. but to be specific in answering your question, you can't do that. i mean, we certainly can raise tear i haves -- tariffs the following day on japan or anybody else if we want to, but we pay a price. i mean, there is no free lunch. you know, if we do that, japan will have the right to retaliate against us, and they would. and they should. so, you know, we need to honor our obligations. we are a signatory to the world trade organization. we're a signatory to nafta. we have a lot of trade agreements in the world. we ought to honor them all. and when we start talking about tearing them up, that's just

nonsense. and, you know, we, we could end up -- i was thinking about this last night. you know, if that really happened and we went through all of this carnage, you know, i might not witness much of it in my lifetime atmy age, but i worry about the carnage that would affect my kids, my grandkids and my great grandkids, and i'm just appalled with this loose language that is being thrown around today. >> i would just mention that to the best of my knowledge members of the press present with us today have not had an opportunity to interview any of the presidential candidates. [laughter] i'm sure if they did, that there would be a detailed elaboration of trade policy issues. another question, please. >> hello.

my name is eric gomez with the cato institute, and i've followed the tpp issue a bit generally from a foreign policy perspective for a while. and when we're talking about how the obama administration's going to sell this to congress, it seems like especially within the last year or so more emphasis has been placed on the u.s. needs to be strategic player in asia. it's not explicitly talking about can china per se, but, you know, everyone who knows about east asia could probably say, okay, yeah, this is meant to serve as some sort of counterweight to chinese economic infliewbs. is this -- influence. is this a strategy that you believe will be successful, or should it be the way to go for -- do you think it would play well with congress and have a greater chance of succeeding than focusing more solely on the economic instead of the strategic benefits? thanks. >> can i try it, dan? phil may want to comment as well. it's a really, a really good

question. you know, personally i may be showing some of my political biases here, but, you know, this administration does not have much credibility on foreign policy issues. i mean, there have not been very many success stories. i think tpp may be the most successful of all. nevertheless, as i pointed out earlier, we really do need to demonstrate leadership in asia because to some degree we are in competition with china for that leadership role. and i don't see china, by the way, as an adversary in trade policy. i never have. i do not now and i don't believe that i should in the future. but i do -- but i also believe that if they are in the leadership role in asia, you will not have principles and rules of international trade that are as effective as they

would be if we are in a leadership role. in other words, they're going to be looser and will not have the disciplines that are necessary. so i want tpp to go into effect because that then becomes the base on which we build. and the point i made earlier about being on the outside versus being on the inside is so valid here. it's not by accident that you have a whole slew of countries lining up wanting to join tpp already. and that's important. i think that's one of the great benefits of this potential agreement. flawed as it may be, it's the best eating on the plate at the moment. and as a consequence, you're finding maybe as many as a dozen countries who would like to be in the next tranche of tpp

negotiations. if that happens, that solidifies the fact that tpp is going to be the foundation of international trade in asia for us and everybody else. i think that's good, and i think it gets to point if you get through that second tranche, and that's a few years down the road. ultimately, china may see it as to its advantage to join. >> i would agree with all of that. i think -- i don't think the administration's been that coy about saying either we write the rules or china writes the rules. i do think that resonates somewhat on the hill from those i've spoken with there. you asked about the trade-off between making that kind of strategic agent versus an economic argument. i think they've handicapped themselves a bit on the economic argument because you had a president who ran for office expressing extreme skepticism about nafta. he's not actually reversed himself on that which means that their economic argument has to be you didn't like previous

trade agreements, but vote for this one. that's what, that sort of self-inflicted wound is what then leads them more, i think, over into the strategic argument. >> way in the back corner there. >> thank you. i just want to ask a quick question about -- >> and you are? >> oh, sorry, i'm zeke schumacher, and i guess i'm my own man. [laughter] >> that's good. [laughter] >> thank you. with respect to this idea about who's writing the rules of the road primarily, i think that seems to be a sticking point. from a political perspective about why we should be engaging ourselves in some sort of international trade agreement in the first place. but it seems to me that sparta didn't join the delion league just because it was the biggest bloc around, right?

and at the same time, you have russia and china creating alternative venues for trading oil and that sort of thing to wti and brent and so on and so forth. so why are we expecting china, on the one hand, to sort of step into a vacuum that not executing tpp is presumed to create, and on the other hand if they do step into that vacuum, why does it necessarily cause a problem if we're hoping that they might join tpp? what's wrong, excuse me, with us joining with whatever multi-national coalition or trading bloc eventually forms regardless? if it's, if the ultimate benefit is the economic of the american consumer and business environment. >> so i'll start in on this. i think the, you know, the u.s. does this because it's in our self-interests. it's in our self-interests to have sort of stable, a that stable political situation in asia. we have huge interests there.

it's in our interest to get other countries to lower their barriers. i think when you look -- i agree with what the ambassador said earlier which is not that we're opposed to china. there is a different conception of what commercial regulation ought to be. and the u.s. has a very advanced economy. a lot of the way we interact with other countries in the world involves provision of services, it involves investment, it involves high intellectual property content. if this sounds familiar from all the chapter headings you were seeing earlier, that's no member. this is saying how do we succeed and how do we do business. if you look at the kind of trade agreements that china's putting forward, they probably reflect more the way that china engages commercially. they're much simpler, it is just border barriers, and it would do a much worse job of serving u.s. interests. so even from an economic standpoint, we'd be worst worse off from the standpoint of proving ourselves a reliable partner to keep the peace in the region, it would be very

damaging to withdraw. >> phil is so, phil is so correct in that respect. as you probably know, china already has a regional trade agreement sort of underway in asia which is viewed by some at least as a bit of a competitor to tpp. that agreement is not really going anywhere at the moment because everybody -- not everybody, most everybody is putting their attention and emphasis on tpp which is to our advantage. and the fact of the matter is if you switch and go the other way and follow the chinese lead with their agreement, you end up with a lot less effective rulemaking in the trade arena. in other words, there'll be a lot more games played under that agreement than will ever be played under tpp. and it's not to our advantage to give other folks a chance to play games, because that works

to our -- we, you know, we liked to play by the rules. not everybody else in the world does. >> question right here. >> david ordin from virginia tech. this may not be fair to the speakers, but i'm really struck by the fact that the multilateralism that wto has literally barely been mentioned today. and if you think back to the nafta and ur bay round, those two agreements pushed forward simultaneously even two or three years ago i think there would have been more discussion about tpp in the context of multilateral negotiations simultaneously or the interface between. so i know it's late in the day, but i'd like to hear some comments from the speakers if you think especially about a tpp process that might roll into 2017, 2018, i mean, where -- is there any wto window, or is, tpp

the only trade agreement, leaving aside dispute settlement, and so on, the only trade agreement on which the next administration is going to organize the u.s. position on trade? are there any windows there or any interface between these things, or is the wto as a negotiating forum just not on the agenda for the next five years? again, my apologies to the speakers for raising something that could be a day's seminar, but it'd be nice to hear a few comments. >> i'll do the best i can, and phil is can supplement because i'm probably more biased than anybody from having been such a participant in the multilateral process during my days as ustr particularly in the you uraguay round. i'm sad about that, as a matter of fact. since that round, the wto process just hasn't worked very well. part of that is because there's so many more countries in, you know? it was about a hundred when we

did the urugyay round. now you've got to hurd a lot more than that, almost -- herd a lot more than that, almost double, and the negotiators have found that to be very, very difficult. when we finished the uraguay round, just to give you a personal touch to this, i said i thought it might be the last round of trade negotiations ever. and maybe i will turn out to be correct in terms of successful multilateral trade negotiations. i'm sorry about that, but it's been happening since then. our hope with tpp and with ttip or at least the hope of some of us has been that if you could do tpp and then do ttip, you cover a vast amount of world trade. and if you can then fold those agreements into the wto, you

could, you know, in a significant way improve the wto and do it without having 180-nation trade negotiation. so i still have some hope for that. but we've got to get tpp right, and we've got to get tpp approved before we can even think about whether that can be a base for a, you know, maybe a partial wto negotiation that would move a lot of that outcome into the wto. phil? >> i agree with all of that. what i would add, i like this image of trying to herd a hundred cats. one of the things that was available, though, was you at least had onefective threat which was that if a country wanted to be recalcitrant, wanted to hold out, you said, well, you won't be a founding member of the wto. that's a one-time trick, and this is what we found in the

doha talks. you do that you, you've got 150 some countries in there, and now you've got to try to get unanimity. the big split that we saw comes back to this question about the u.s. approach versus the chinese approach. do you try for high standards and ambition, or do you try for something much less ambitious and less useful? countries ended up split, and it hasn't been clear how you move past that impasse. just as the ambassador said, there is a path sort of from the ground up where you do tpp and ttip and they come to together and then others join. @be nicer to do it -- it'd be nicer to do it from the top down, but a dozen years of trying has not been very effective. >> well, i'm not going to try to herd cats; rather, i'll just say that we need to conclude now, and i will provide guidance for how to get to lunch. [laughter] people will tend to respond well. lunch is served upstairs one level on, in the yeager

conference center on the second floor. take spiral staircase up. there are restrooms on the way, so -- on the second floor at the yellow wall. i thank you all very much for being here, for your participation. please join me in expressing appreciation to the panel. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> and here we see news being made today by fbi director james

comey saying the fbi will not recommend criminal charges in its investigation into hillary clinton's use of private e-mail while secretary of state. director comey making that announcement today, three days after fbi agents interviewed mrs. clinton in a final step of their investigation. the justice department's been looking into whether anyone mishandled classified information that flowed through mrs. clinton's e-mail server. attorney general loretta lynch said last week she would accept the recommendations of mr. comey and of the career prosecutors. let's take a look now at air force one as it arrived not long ago, about a half hour ago, in charlotte, north carolina, where we're standing by to bring you live coverage of president obama on the campaign trail with candidate hillary clinton. their first appearance together since mr. obama announced his endorsement last month. earlier campaign be events were both canceled following the orlando nightclub trial judge. our live coverage getting

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>> so we're waiting for president obama and secretary clinton to come out with this joint campaign appearance in charlotte are, north carolina. charlotte, north carolina. scheduled to get underway at about 3:00 eastern. as these things go, starting a little late. let's take a look at this week's congressional agenda which we talked about on this morning's "washington journal." >> host: to talk about the week ahead in politics on capitol hill, two congressional reporters joining us. joining us is laura barone lopez of the huffington post, also sung lee kim, politico. good morning to both of you. >> guest: good morning. >> host: the one thing we do know at least on the house side is discussions about legislation concerning guns or at least guns being part of it. laura barone lopez, set up what's going to go on in the house today. >> guest: so it's a counterterrorism package that won't come to the floor until later on in this week, and

within that package is a gun provision. that gun provision would prohibit suspected terrorists from purchasing a firearm. and what it does is it gives the attorney general about three days to prove probable cause. and so that's a key provision, a key element of this gun provision, something that democrats aren't going to like. and it also mirrors a provision from senator john cornyn in the senate. >> host: so why are democrats not going to like this particular piece? >> guest: because democrats say putting the responsibility on the attorney general to prove probable cause, you have to hold a hearing, it would take too long, and they don't like that it would only delay the purchase by three days. so their view is that there should just be an outright ban on anyone who's a suspected terrorist or on the no-fly/no-buy list, any terror watch list. that's what they would like to see passed, but republicans are very adamant about including due process. >> host: ms. kim, do we see that

type of response on the senate side? >> guest: yes. so as the senate voted on about four gun paroles and then two different gun proposals a couple weeks ago, almost immediately after the tragic orlando shootings on june 12th. so the legislation written by senator cornyn did get the most votes, however, it did not reach the 60 votes needed to advance any sort of legislation in the senate. so most republicans supported it, but it was the same reaction, you know? democrats said, look, this probable cause standard is too high. this bill is written by the national rifle association, so we're not going to go along with it. >> host: how much is this overshadowed by the events that took place in the house during that sit-in, and how much is it going to fliens what happens today? >> guest: i think the senate had a lot of influence because the sit-in brought pressure on speaker ryan to hold some sort of gun measure legislation. and what's interesting to me is, actually, the house democratic caucus wanted to meet with peeker ryan directly -- speaker ryan directly.

in a caucus meeting, obviously, that's very rare, almost unprecedented. he turned down the request, but he's going to be meeting with congressman john lewis of georgia, the civil rights icon who led that protest, as well as congressman john larson of connecticut. he's going to be meeting with them privately later today. obviously, about guns, and we'll see what happens from that meeting if there's kind of a way that democrats can get a gun proposal that they say is more than just window dressing. >> host: ms. barone lopez, do we see a repeat of those events as far as the sit-in are concerned? any talk of that? >> guest: there is talk of that. democrats are saying they're going to be pulling out as many stops as possible. whether that's different procedural tools, asking parking lotmenttarian questions and things of that nature. when they went back this week, they were on recess right before the july 4th holiday, and they tried to hold little sit-ins where they were in public squares at, you know, within their districts to keep the

attention on gun violence and gun control issues. and so pelosi, you know, house minority leader pelosi has said that they're going to do whatever they can to keep pressure on republicans to get the votes that they want. and they specifically said that they want the no-fly/no-buy, a vote on that as well as a vote on background checks, requiring background checks for gun purchases at gun shows as well as online. >> host: is there direct disagreement on those approaches when it comes to gun purchases? are there republicans who are okay with that approach and could possibly, you know, give democrats some cover as far as this effort is concerned? >> guest: well, these are two provisions that are actually both supported, you know, by nra members themselves as well as by gun owners across the country, some 70% have said that they would support passing measures like this. and also there are republicans that support these measures as well. the no-fly/no-buy list was authored by representative king

of new york who's a republican. and there's also in the senate, you know, the manchin/toomey bill which would require background checks. so there is support. it's whether or not leadership wants to bring it to the floor. >> host: and that would be the desired leadership to do so is what at this point? >> guest: they don't really want a gunfight at this point. they realize kind of the very emotional, tragic nature of the orlando shooting, but their message and their focus has been on combating terrorism. i mean, the shooter in the case, you know, reportedly, you know, pledged allegiance to the islamic state right before the shootings, and they say our focus is that. >> host: two guests and other issues with the congress coming back on these dates before the august recess, 20 2-648-8002 for independents.

how many days til recess? >> guest: we have about nine legislative days, about two weeks until full recess, because that's when the republican national convention begins in cleveland, and that's it until september. >> host: aside from the house efforts on guns, what kind of work activity are we expected to see in those ten days or so? >> guest: so we have a mix of messaging bills particularly in the senate and also trying to get more appropriations bills done. so over in the senate tomorrow we have teed up two votes on immigration, actually, which is an issue that we have kind of see fade away at least legislatively from congress over the last several months. so it's a bill targeting what's called sanctuary cities. these are localities and cities nationwide where local officials don't really cooperate with federal immigration enforcement. so let's say an immigrant is picked up in a jail, the feds want the local jails to inform them when this immigrant is supposed to leave the jail so they can deport them, but a lot of jails say, no, this is a violation of constitutional rights, and we're not going to

abide by these regulations. but, obviously, republicans want these cities to cooperate with immigration enforcement. so senator path toomey of pennsylvania -- pat toomey of pennsylvania, republican, has written legislation basically forcing these sanctuary cities into cooperating by holding funding for them. philadelphia is actually, is what's considered a sanctuary city. he's made it a big issue in his re-election race. obviously, we know he's in one of the most competitive races this year. so we're voting on -- or the senate is voting on legislation to advance that bill tomorrow, tomorrow, wednesday afternoon, in conjunction with that they're voting on a separate bill targeting sanctuary cities. it's called, basically, kate's law. it's written by senator ted cruz of texas. he made it a very big issue in his presidential bid, and it toughens mandatory minimum sentences for immigrants who repeatedly try to enter the united states illegally. >> host: on the house side, what

kind of workload are we talking? >> guest: they're going through a slew of lands bills today, and they're going to be getting started on the counterterrorism bill. that bill, what it largely does also is it would require the department of homeland security to identify the threat as radical islamist terrorism, something that republicans are, you know, irritated with the administration or -- for not calling it by what they say is its true name. and the bill would also require the dhs to create scenarios nationwide that would then make them practice when an individual is leaving the u.s. to go work with terrorist organizations or terrorist organizations are infiltrating the u.s. so gaming out those scenarios is another thing the bill would require. and finally, it would also require revoking u.s. passports from individuals who have aided, abetted foreign terrorist organizations. and so that's what this larger package is with the gun provision tucked in. there's also the possibility

that they will motion to go to conference on the national defense authorization. and then they're also looking to opioid conference to try and combat heroin addiction and opioids. that conference is meeting this week. it's been taking a while -- >> and here we are live at the charlotte convention center in charlotte, north carolina. there you see the president and secretary clinton, live road to the white house coverage here on c-span2. ♪ ♪ finish. ♪ ♪ this is my fight song, take

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hello, charlotte! [cheers and applause] it is so great to be back in north carolina with so many friends -- [cheers and applause] with congresswoman alma adams and congressman david pryce and congressman g.k. butterfield and your next u.s. senator, deborah ross! [cheers and applause] and your next governor, roy cooper! [cheers and applause] and, of course, with our president, barack obama! [cheers and applause] i, i feel very privileged,

because i've known the president in many roles; as a colleague in the senate, as an opponent in a hard-fought primary -- [laughter] and the president i was so proud to serve as secretary of state. [cheers and applause] but i've also known him as the friend that i was honored to stand with in the good times and the hard times. someone who has never forgotten where he came from -- [cheers and applause] and, donald, if you're out there tweeting, it's hawaii. [cheers and applause] [laughter]

so over the years we've had some memorable experiences together like storming a secret meeting of foreign leaders at a global climate summit. >> that was fun. [laughter] >> that was fun. >> that was fun. [laughter] >> you should have seen the chinese guards try to stop us. now, they put their arms out, and the president just went right through. then they put their arms out, and i went right under. [laughter] and the president, with that amazing smile of his, says, hey, we've been looking for you. [laughter] now through it all, as we went from political rivals to partners to friends, my esteem for him just kept growing. and so did my admiration for his brilliant wife, michelle. [cheers and applause]

and those two amazing daughters that they have, right? [cheers and applause] you know, my husband and i know a little bit about how hard it is to raise a child in the public eye, in the fish bowl of the white house. but the obamas have done a fabulous job -- [cheers and applause] malia, who just graduated from high school and celebrated her 18th birthday yesterday -- [cheers and applause] and sasha who has the energy and enthusiasm of a wonderful young woman. now, i happen to think these two young women may be the most impressive accomplishment of all of our president's. [applause]

and it's one of the many reasons why it means so much to me personally to have the president's support in this campaign. after all, he knows a thing or two about winning elections, take it from me. [cheers and applause] and he also knows that despite all the progress we've made under his leadership -- and, yes, we have -- [cheers and applause] we still have a lot of work to do. president obama's job, one that he did not ask for but was handed to him, was to save us from a second great depression, and that is exactly what he did. [cheers and applause] actually, i don't think he gets the credit he deserves for saving our economy. [cheers and applause]

we've added 14 million private sector jobs, the auto industry just had its best year ever, 20 million people now have health care -- [cheers and applause] clean energy production has soared. i could go on and on, but you get the idea. that is what leadership looks like. [cheers and applause] so our next president has a different job to do, building on the progress that president obama has made. we have to continue to take on deep structural challenges that existed long before the great recession. we see it here in north carolina and across the country. inequality is too high, wages are too low, and it's just too hard to get ahead. we need an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top. [cheers and applause]

so we're setting five big, ambitious goals. first, under president obama and vice president biden we've had 75 straight months of job growth. [cheers and applause] i want us to see 75 more. so in my first 100 days as president, we'll make the biggest investment in new, good-paying jobs since world war ii. [cheers and applause] and when i say good-paying jobs, i mean exactly that. donald trump thinks wages are too high. he actually stood on the debate stage and said that. and he wants to get rid of the federal minimum wage altogether.

well, i think anyone who is willing to work hard should be able to find a job that pays well enough to raise a family. so we're going to increase the federal minimum wage and give the middle class a raise! [cheers and applause] that's good for our family, good for our economy and, boy, is it good for our country. now second, we're going to make college debt-free-for-all -- [cheers and applause] and we're going to build on the president's idea to make community college free -- [cheers and applause] and we're going to help millions of people struggling withist existing student debt save thousands of dollars. [cheers and applause] third, we're going to rewrite the rules and crack down on

companies that ship jobs overseas and profit to go with them. let's reward the companies that share profits with their employees instead. [cheers and applause] ask we're going to defend and strengthen the tough reforms president obama put in place on the financial industry. not tear hem up like donald trump says he'll do. we need to make sure that wall street can never wreck main street again. >> yep. [cheers and applause] >> fourth, we're going to make sure that wall street corporations and the super rich pay their fair share of taxes. [cheers and applause] it is just plain wrong that a millionaire can pay a lower tax rate than their secretaries, and we're going to stop it. and, oh, by the way, we're going to keep asking to see donald trump's tax returns!

[cheers and applause] and finally, we're going to step up and respond to the way american families actually live and work in the 21st century. our families, our workplaces have changed, so isn't it time that our policies change too? >> absolutely. >> yes! >> now, donald trump can accuse me of playing the woman card all he wants, but if fighting for equal pay and affordable childcare and paid family leave is playing the woman card, then deal me in! [cheers and applause] and, you know, most of all, most of all -- hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary!

hillary! >> you know, most of all though we're going to build on the vision for america that president obama has always championed, a vision for a future where we do great things together. not as red states and blue states, but as the united states. [cheers and applause] when i look at president obama, i see a leader with heart, depth and humility. someone who in spite of the obstruction he's faced still reaches more common ground and common purpose. [cheers and applause] now, some of you might remember that he and i competed against each other as hard as we could back in 2008.

but when it was over, i was proud to endorse him and campaign for him. [cheers and applause] and i'll never forget when he called me the sunday after the election asking me to come to chicago. it turned out he wanted me to be secretary of state, and i don't think anybody saw that coming, especially me. [laughter] and as i traveled on behalf of our country, a lot of people would ask me how president obama and i could work so well together after being such fierce competitors. in some places, you know, the person who loses an election gets exiled or executed, not asked to be secretary of state. [laughter] but president obama asked me to serve, and i accepted. you know why? we both love our country. [cheers and applause]

that is how democracy is supposed to work. we just celebrated 240 years of our independence. in america we put common interests before self-interests. we stand together because we know we are stronger together. that is the kind of president barack obama has been. he's made difficult, even unpopular decisions for the good of our country. i have sat with him in the situation room and seen him make the hardest choices a president faces. he does it with steady, principled leadership. he's a statesman leading not just our country, but the entire world. [cheers and applause] it was his vision -- [cheers and applause] it was his visioning and diplomacy that secured a historic global agreement on

climate change, put a lid on iran's nuclear program, opened up cuba and rallied the world to curb the spread of nuclear weapons. [cheers and applause] i saw him go toe to toe with the toughest foreign leaders and to give the order to go after osama bin laden. [cheers and applause] this, my friends, is a president who knows how to keep us safe and strong. compare that to donald trump. can you imagine him sitting in the oval office -- >> no! >> -- the next time america faces a crisisesome the world hang -- crisis? the world hangs on every word our president says, and donald trump is simply unqualified and

temperamentally unfit to be our president and commander in chief. [cheers and applause] so here in north carolina this election is our chance to say our country is better than this. in america we don't tear each other down, we lift each other up. we build bridges, not walls. [cheers and applause] we don't call the country we love a disaster or a laughing stock, know america already is the greatest country on earth! [cheers and applause] just think about those early patriots who met in philadelphia that hot summer of 1776. they knew we would all rise or fall together. now, nobody who looked like

barack obama or me would have been included back then, but we're here today. [cheers and applause] because the story of america is the story of hard-fought, hard-won progress! [cheers and applause] >> hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! >> so i want you to remember that for 240 years our history has moved in that direction. slowly at times, but unmistakably. as the president has reminded us, the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. so if you believe --

[applause] along with me and with the president that our best days as a nation are still ahead of us, please, join this campaign -- [cheers and applause] take out your phone right now! take out your phone and text join to 47246 or go to hillaryclinton.com. we are hiring organizers right here in north carolina. [cheers and applause] we're going to fight for every vote in this state, and with your hope we're going to win it! [cheers and applause] so i don't know about you, but we are fired up and ready to go! ready to win this election! please join me in welcoming the president of the united states, barack obama! [cheers and applause]

>> hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! >> oh! [cheers and applause] how you doing, charlotte? [cheers and applause] are you fired up? [cheers and applause] you ready to go? >> yeah! >> fired up. >> >> ready to go. >> i am, i'm fired up. [laughter] hillary got me fired up! she got me ready to do some work! so i hope everybody had a great fourth of july. [applause] >> we love you! >> i love you back. [cheers and applause] i -- now, first of all, let me

just say i like any excuse to come to north carolina. [cheers and applause] i just like north carolina. i love, i love the people of north carolina. [cheers and applause] i used to -- when we used to campaign here, i used to say even the people who aren't voting for me are nice. [laughter] you know, that's not true everywhere. [laughter] so you got great people here. and then you got great food. [cheers and applause] north carolina's got some food. in fact, i will find some place to stop and get some food before i head back to d.c. [laughter] i know y'all have recommendations. and, no, i can't go to your house to get the food. [laughter] although i'm sure you're an excellent cook. [laughter] and then you've got great basketball. [cheers and applause] you've got great basketball. we all know that.

we all know that. but i'm not going to get in between all the tarheel and wolf pack and -- [cheers and applause] you know? yeah, blue devils. see, i -- deacons, see, i'm not going to get into all that. you just have great basketball in north carolina. so i love an excuse to come to north carolina. but i'm here for a simple reason. i'm glad to see our outstanding congressional delegation. you are lucky to have them. i'm glad you've got an outstanding candidate for the senate and an outstanding candidate for governor. [cheers and applause] and i'm going to be working for them too. but i'm here today because i believe in hillary clinton. [cheers and applause] and i want you to help elect her to be the next president of the united states of america. [cheers and applause] that's why i'm here.

[cheers and applause] >> hillary! hillary! hillary! >> now, this is not -- hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! >> now, as hillary mentioned, this is not the first time we've campaigned together. we went up to new hampshire after our primary in 2008. we went to unity, new hampshire. just in case people missed the point. [laughter] that was the name of the town, unity, new hampshire. and we had gone through what was one of the longest, toughest primaries in history. and primaries are always tough. because you're arguing with your friends instead of the folks you disagree with. sometimes you've got to find things to disagree about even though you don't really disagree.

so we were crisscrossing towns from new hampshire to nevada, and as much as i had add hired her -- admired her when we served together in the senate, i came away from that primary admiring her even more. because during that year and a half, i had had a chance to see up close just how smart she was and just how prepared she was. [applause] especially since i had to debate her a couple dozen times. [laughter] and let's be clear, she beat me, like, in the -- [laughter] now, you don't have to rub it in now. you don't have to rub it in now. [laughter] she beat me, you know, at least the first half, and then i just barely could play her to a draw. i always had to be on my game because she knew every fact, and she knew every detail.

and then during those 18 months i saw the passion that she feel for anybody who's experienced injustice, anybody who's faced discrimination, anybody who does everything right and still can't seem to get a fair shot, whether workers who have lost their jobs or kids who who can't afford college. and you could tell it was personal to her, because she had seen struggles in her own life. she had known challenges in her own life x. she could identify and empathize with people who were doing the right thing and wanted to make sure that they got a fair shake. and then during the primaries again and again i saw how even when things didn't go her way, she just stand up straighter and come back stronger. [cheers and applause] she didn't give up. she didn't pout. she just kept on going.

she was the energizer bunny. she just kept on. [laughter] and the bottom line is she had to do everything i had to do, but she was like ginger rogers, she had to do it backwards in heels. [laughter] [applause] and at the end of our contest, i saw the grace and the energy with which she threw herself into my campaign. not because she wasn't disappointed about the outcome of the primary, but because she knew there was something that was at stake that was bigger than either of us. [applause] and that was -- [applause] the direction of our country. and how are we going to make sure that all the people who are counting on us could see a better life? so we may have gone toe to toe from coast to coast, but we stood shoulder to shoulder for the ideals that we share. so maybe hillary was surprised,

but i wasn't surprised when i asked hillary to represent our interests and our value ares around the world as america's secretary of state. i knew she would do a great job. [cheers and applause] i knew she would perform. i knew the regard in which she was held in capitals all around the world. i knew the minute she took that job, there was a stature and a seriousness that would immediately mend some of the challenges that we had had around the world during that time. now, let me tell you, north carolina, my faith in hillary clinton has always been rewarded. i have had a front row seat to her judgment and her toughness and her commitment to diplomacy. and i witnessed it in the situation room. [applause] where she argued in favor of the mission to get bin laden. [cheers and applause]

i saw how, i saw how as a former senator from new york she knew, she understood because she had seen it, she had witnessed it, what this would mean for the thousands who had lost loved ones when the twin towers fell. i benefited from her savvy and her skill in foreign cappals where her pursuit -- capitals where her pursuit of diplomacy led to new partnerships, opened up new nations to democracy, helped to reduce the nuclear threat. we've all witnessed the work she's done to advance the lives of women and girls around the globe. she has been working on this since she was a young woman working at the children's defense fund. [cheers and applause] she's not late to the game of this, she's been going door to door to make sure kids got a fair shake, making sure kids with disabilities could get a quality education. [cheers and applause]

she's been fighting those fights, and she's got the scars to prove it. >> thank you, hillary! [cheers and applause] >> and, you know, hillary and i share, we shared a big hug the first time we saw each other after we finally realized one of the great causes of her career. finally guaranteeing access to quality affordable health insurance for every single american because that's something she got started. [cheers and applause] and we picked up that baton and were able to get it across the finish line. the bottom line is she was a great secretary of state. and by the way, that's not just my opinion. that was the view of the american people and pundits throughout the time that she was serving as secretary of state. [cheers and applause] before the whole political machinery got moving. you remember that? it wasn't that long ago.

it's funny how that happens. [laughter] everybody thought she was doing a great job. that's because she did do a good job. [laughter] but it's funny -- [applause] how the filter changes a little bit. same person. done the same work. but, you know, that filter is a powerful thing. but, you know, it wasn't just what happened in the limelight that made me grow more and more to admire and respect hillary. it was how she acted when the cameras weren't on. it was knowing how she did her e homework. it was knowing how many miles she put in traveling to make sure that america was effectively represented in corners of the globe that people don't even know about. there wasn't any political points to be had, but she knew

that it was important. i saw how she treated everybody with respect, even the folks who aren't, quote-unquote, important to. that's how you judge somebody. how do they treat somebody -- [cheers and applause] when the cameras are off and they can't do anything for you. do you still treat 'em right? do you still treat 'em with respect? do you still listen to 'em? are you still fighting for 'em? [cheers and applause] ..

those things matter. i am here to tell you that truth is, nobody fully understands the challenges of the job of president and chill you've actually sat at the desk. everybody's got an opinion. but nobody actually knows the job until you were sitting behind a desk. [cheers and applause] everybody can tweet, but nobody actually knows what it takes to do the job until you're there behind the desk. [cheers and applause] i mean, sasha tweets but she doesn't think -- [laughter] everybody should be sitting behind the desk. so you can't fully understand what it means to make life and

death decisions until you are done it. that's the truth. but i can tell you this. hillary clinton has -- has been tested. she has seen up close what is involved in making those decisions are just participated in the meetings in which of those decisions have been made. she's seen the consequences of things working well and things not working well. and there has never been any man or woman more qualified for this office than hillary clinton. [cheers and applause] ever. [cheers and applause] and that's the truth. [chanting] hillary! >> that's the truth.

hillary! hillary! >> so the bottom line is, i know hillary can do the job. [cheers and applause] and that's what i am so proud, north carolina, to endorse hillary clinton as the next president of the united states. [cheers and applause] now, i recognize to some degree i'm preaching to the choir. >> preach, preach. >> i know i probably don't need to tell anybody here why we need hillary's steadiness enter levelheadedness enter brilliance and her temperament right now. right now. >> right now. >> because we've been through some tumultuous times in this new century. and we continue to face all

kinds of challenges and change in the years ahead. and in this, this november in this election, you are going to have a very clear choice to make, between two fundamentally different visions of where america should go. and this isn't even really a choice between left and right are democrat and republican. this is a choice between whether we are going to cling to some imaginary past, or whether we're going to reach for the future. [cheers and applause] this is about whether we have an america that works for everybody, or just a few people. and hillary is not somebody who fiercely future. she believes that it is ours to shape.

the same what it's always been. hillary understands that we make our own destiny, as long as we are together, as long as we think of ourselves, not as just a collection of individuals or collection of interest groups or a collection of states, but as the united states of america. she knows that. she knows that when it comes to our economy. because she was economy works best, not when it only benefits a few at the top but when everybody has a fair shot. as hillary mentioned, look, when i came into office things were not in very good shape, you will recall. [laughter] we were losing 800,000 jobs a month. pursuing, by the way, the same proposals the republicans are still peddling. and over the past six years our

businesses have created more than 14 million new jobs. because the unemployment rate in half, manufacturing jobs have grown since the first time since another president clinton was in office. [cheers and applause] by the way, andcome and by the way, because they are only talk about as being the democrats, i would to point out we cut our deficit by nearly 75%. [cheers and applause] they didn't. they did not. wages for families are finally starting to rise again, but we've got so much more work to do. because in the 21st century we are not going, we are not going to help families. we are not going to create jobs just by pretending that we could turn back the clock, and when i go to some of not be in the workforce anymore.

and, you know, people of color solar are not going to be competing and wanting a better future for their kids. we are not going to suddenly ignore all the progress that's been made over the last 30 years. we are not going to build walls around america or put technology back in the box. we are not going to reverse hard-won rights for women or minorities or americans with disabilities to fully participate in the workforce. we are not going to do that. if we are going to give working families, all families, a chance to succeed, we've got to make sure they can afford childcare. and they've got sick leave and paid leave, and we've got to make sure women get equal pay for equal work. [cheers and applause] and we should make it easier, not harder, for workers to organize for better wages and working conditions. [cheers and applause]

and we should not eliminate the minimum wage. we should raise it high enough so if you work full time you don't live in poverty. [cheers and applause] each of these policies, the policies hillary mentioned, would help working families feel more secure in today's economy. she's actually got a plan. it is actually paid for. you can actually look at it. [laughter] now, the fact that we haven't gotten all these ideas done it's not the fault of immigrants or unions or some liberal socialist scheme. it's very simple. republicans in congress and republican governors have been blocking these ideas for the last eight years.

[cheers and applause] so, so look, i just want to be clear that everybody votes on the economy, i understand, there are other issues. but if your concern is who's going to look out for working families, if you are voting your pocketbook, if you are asking who's actually going to stand up for the guy on the construction site or the guy in the factory, or the woman who was cleaning hotel rooms or somebody who is really working hard, working family, if that's your concern, this isn't even a choice. because the other side has nothing to offer you. [cheers and applause] the other side has got nothing to offer you [chanting] hillary!

hillary! hillary! >> i'm going to go off script but i want to repeat this. if your concern is working people, then this is not a choice. i don't care whether you are white, black, hispanic, native american, polkadot, male, female, i don't care. if what you care is who's going to be fighting for ordinary folks who are fighting for a better life for themselves and their children, then i don't know how you vote for the guy who is against the minimum wage, against unions, against making sure that everybody gets a fair shot, against legislation for equal pay, against sick leave and family leave, and against all the things that working

families care about. so if you are voting for the other team, it's not because of the economy. it's not because of the economy. got to be clear about that. [cheers and applause] i mean, even, even the republicans on the other side don't really know what the guy is talking about. [laughter] they really don't. they really don't. you ask them, they are all like, i don't know. [laughter] then they kind of doctor the other way. am i joking? not. so you can choose a path that devices with harsh rhetoric and

get people working against each other. all the while pushing policies that would just help the folks at the top do even better but that's not helping working families, or we can transform our politics so they are responsive to working families, so that all people of all races and all backgrounds get a higher wage. and all folks get quality health care and a decent retirement. and all children in this country get a better education. [cheers and applause] that's what hillary clinton believes him and that's what i am supporting her for president of the united states and that's what you should, too. [cheers and applause] now, to me that in and of itself would be enough to make that

choice, but we've got some other choices. you can go the path, denied that climate change is real, or you can choose a path where american jobs and businesses lead the world and come back and. over the last seven years we have doubled renewable energy in this country. [cheers and applause] remember, remember when they're all concerned about our dependence on foreign oil? well, let me tell you. we cut the amount of oil we buy from other countries in half. [cheers and applause] remember when the other team was promising they were going to get gas prices down in like 10 years? we did it. [cheers and applause] we did it. so we've been able to shape energy policy that's good for families, good for your pocketbooks and with secretary

clinton's help, america ultimate lead nearly 200 other nations to adequate to save this planet for future generations. [cheers and applause] now, maybe you don't care about this. maybe you think 99% of scientists are wrong. or you can -- [shouting] >> you're welcome. the point is we're not done with this. it's up to you. you can vote with the climate did not want to tear up the agreements we have crafted and dunes are considered more dangerous world, or you can vote to keep putting people back to work building a clean energy future for all of us. that's part of what is at stake in this election. that's one of the reasons i'm supporting hillary clinton for president. you know, hillary mentioned how

we operate on the world stage now, let me just say, under the other guy talks about making america great again. america is really great. [cheers and applause] and just the other day somebody was writing about when you look at surveys in the world, turns out that when obama came into office a world didn't think we were that great. but now they think we are the greatest. [cheers and applause] that we are the strongest, in the best position. we were in a hole before i came into office, a right now the rest of the world thinks we are pretty darn great. [cheers and applause] and by the way, you can look that up. that's the fact. that's not like just something i just made up to tweet. [laughter] so there's surveys done. they poll people who actually

know what people think. you don't just assert it and it turns out that's what they think you can look it up. heart of the reason is because we had an outstanding secretary of state. part of the reason is that hillary understood and continues to understand that just a bunch of tough talk has replaced the hard work of diplomacy. a bunch of phony bluster doesn't keep us safe. and she understands we can't retreat from the world that needs american leadership. that's why she offers a smarter approach that uses every element of american power to protect our people and to protect our allies. she is and will be a states woman who makes this proud around the world. [applause] shewolf deployed diplomacy whenever possible but she also knows what it takes to be a

commander-in-chief come and i know she will never hesitate to use force when it is necessary to protect us. and she will know how to mobilize the world around the causes that we believe in, and we know our right to make sure other countries polled own weight. that's leadership, and that's what hillary clinton has to be the next president of the united states of america. [cheers and applause] [chanting] part of the reason why we are here because we all should the plate that this country only lives up to its potential in and every single one of us gets the chance, black, white, native

american, young, old, rich, poor, turkish-american days, straight, male, female. all of us matter. all of us share the same creed. all of us pledge allegiance to the same flag. that doesn't mean went to agree on everything. we all have different ideas and beliefs and that's part of what makes america great. but i agree with hillary that our democracy works best when there are basic bonds of trust between us. when we recognize that every voice matters. and the people who disagree with us most strongly love our country just as strong as we do the you never heard hillary clinton demonize other people. you haven't heard her not be willing to engage in folks even when they disagree with or. you asked about folks innocent were on the other side, they like working with her. even though some of them have

did everything they could to tear her down when she was first lady. she still worked within. and that brand of leadership is how we are going to get things done. that's how we can protect more of our kids from gun violence. [cheers and applause] after new down -- new down. after newtown, the other side lost any new gun safety reforms. after orlando they blocked any new gun safety reform. they are not listening to 90% of the american people. democrats and republicans who support background checks and making sure somebody who's on the no fly list can't actually go out and purchase an automatic rifle. [cheers and applause] hillary knows how to build coalitions. and she knows we can take smart steps to protect both our rights and our kids so they can go to the movies or to church or to a

nightclub or to school. and if you believe that, too, then there's no choice. you've got to vote for hillary clinton. [cheers and applause] her brand of leadership can fix the broken immigration system so that it lives up to our tradition of a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. unless you're a native american, somebody brought you here. somebody came here. you came from someplace else now. so i just want to be clear about that, not everybody had their paper straight when they came. [applause] i'm just saying. and you know, there are millions of thriving young people whose lives hang in the balance. and they want to give something back to this country that they love. they want to serve on a military.

they want to go to college. they want to be doctors. they want to cure diseases. and for years the republicans who run this caucus talk a good game about immigration reform and then they don't do anything. and now they pick a nominee whose only plan is to build a higher wall. that's not a plan. [booing] no, no, no. hold on a second i was waiting for this. do not do. vote. [cheers and applause] booing doesn't help. you need to vote. but if you care about a smart immigration clauses that gives everybody opportunity, this is your candidate. you've got to vote in this election. and you know what and if you don't think your vote matters,.

[inaudible] >> so as you can do we have lost the signal from charlotte, north carolina. is obama had been speaking, the secretary clinton start about 330 and then president obama speaking for about the last half hour or so. it sounds like he was winding down his work. we'll see if we get the signal back to you forget you can see the numbers on the screen. we will start taking your calls. what your reaction to what you've heard today from mrs. clinton and present obama, the first time to out on the campaign trail together since the endorsement of the president for hillary clinton. they planned to campaign earlier

this season but the events in orlando intervened. so let's see if we can get the signal back to if we kept going and feel free to dial in and we will start taking your calls in just a minute. >> we will go back and see if we can follow the end of the president's remarks and hopefully the satellite will hold out for us. >> you can't be reckless. you don't have the luxury of just saying whatever pops into your head. you've actually got to know what you are talking about. you've got to actually do your homework.

you can't just kick out reporters. you can't go to another country and did ask a question, you can't just kick them out. because they're in another country. eke out to apply steady judgment, even when things don't go your way. you've got to make the tough call even when they are not popular. and even when they will not pay off right away or increase your poll numbers. you've got to be able to handle criticism without taking it personally. you've just got to brush it off and get the job done. that's some what of i've learned while serving as your president. that some of what hillary has learned as a senator and as the secretary of state. and that's what i'm voting for hillary clinton to be the next president of the united states. [cheers and applause] so let me, you know, i know i've gone on too long. this is what happens when you

haven't campaign in a while but you start, you know, start enjoying it too much. so let me just simple by this and let me be blunt. i want to be blunt. can i be blunt? let me be blunt. hillary has got her share of critics. that's what happens when you're somebody who is actually in the arena. that's what happens when you have fought for what you believe in. that's what happened when you dedicate yourself to public service over the course of a lifetime. and what sets you apart from sony others is she never stopped caring. she never stopped trying. you know, we are a young country so we like new things. and i benefited from that culture, let's face it. went hiking on the scene in 2008, everybody said well, he's new. they don't say that now because i'm not.

[laughter] but sometimes we take some has been in the trenches and fought the good fight and been steady for granted. sometimes we act as if never having done something and not knowing what you're doing is a virtue. we don't do that, by the way, for airline pilots. we don't do that for surgeons but somehow we think president of united states, i don't know, who is that guy? come on. and so as a consequence, you know, that means sometimes hillary doesn't get the credit she deserves. but the fact is, hillary is steady and hillary isn't true. and she's been in politics for the same reason i am. because we can approve other people's lives by doing this work. and we don't care about the slings and errors that are thrown at us because we know

that's how real change and real progress happens and that we come if we're willing to work hard can finish, can bring about changes that make life better for some kid out there, some senior out there, somebody who's unemployed out there. and it may take more than a year. sometimes it takes more than a term. and sometimes it takes more than one presidency or even one generation. and yet that's old-fashioned. i think she will fess up to that. but we want people to believe that the government can work and that the president cares. and that every child in this country should have the same chances that this country gave us. [applause] because we were not born with a silver spoon. and we know that behind all the division and sometimes angry rhetoric of this election year

and all the petty bickering and the point scoring and the punditry, the ordinary american, americans are good, and they are generous and their hard-working and they've got an awful lot of common sense. and we share a certain set of common values and hopes and dreams. that's what iran in 2008. and i believe in those values and those ideals more than ever. i believe in you the american people more than ever. at a more optimistic about our future than ever. that's why my faith, my faith is stronger about the simple american ideals as old as our founding the people who love their country can change for the better. i have seen it happen. i have run my last campaign, and i couldn't be prouder of the things we've been together but i'm ready to pass the baton. [cheers and applause] and i know that hillary clinton is going to take it. [cheers and applause]

and i know she can run that race, the race that create good jobs and better schools and a safer streets and safer world, that's what i'm fired up. that's what i'm ready to go and that's what i am with her and that's what i need you to work just as hard to make sure that hillary rodham clinton is the next president of the united states of america. god bless you. god bless you. [cheers and applause] >> and god bless the united states of america. ♪ ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ this is my fight song ♪ take back my life song ♪ prove i'm all right song ♪ my power is turned on ♪ i will be strong. >> so there you see just about an hour of this event at the charlotte convention center in charlotte, north carolina. you see the numbers on your screen if you're joining us on radio we've opened up our phone lines for your reaction. democrats give us a call 202-748-8920. republicans 202-748-8921 and online for all others 202-748-8922.

let's start out in the bronx with deborah. things are waiting. you were on c-span. >> caller: thank you so much. listen, this is so exciting. i just am almost speechless. it's really, really exciting to see one man who was wanted to the doorway of history to give at least a woman who is about to walk through the door of history as well. hopefully we've got -- hillary clinton has held a support system for one thing. ..