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>> c-span live coverage of the state funeral for former president george hw bush continues as he lies in state in the us capitol rotunda for public viewing until wednesday morning at 10:00 am eastern. than the departure ceremony from the capital followed at 11:00 by the funeral service at washington national cathedral. the state funeral where president george hw bush, watch our live coverage this week on c-span and c-span2 and or listen on the c-span radio apps. senator bernie sanders held a townhall meeting in washington dc on climate change. joining and were congresswoman alexandria cortez and climate change active. this is about 2 hours. [cheers and applause]
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>> we know where we were sitting. that's good. thank you all very much. we're going to go on. what we are trying to do tonight is to be part of a revolution in terms of the need to transform our energy system away from fossil fuels and not only save the planet but create millions of good paying jobs in the process. we have some great panelists we will be bringing on in a minute and i will explain the format in 30 seconds when we go live but thank you very much for being here tonight. [applause]
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>> a dire warning this morning from climate experts was a un panel says governments around the world must take rapid action to curb rising temperatures are millions around the world face future disaster. record-breaking heat wave. things keep getting worse. >> wildfires rage as far north as the arctic circle. >> at least 24 deaths. >> blamed on the storm. >> record rainfall devastating fire communities. >> my neighbor called me up, the fire is at the edge of our community. i will go out there right now and try to shovel fires out. it is for too thin. >> i know from the fact as a senior climate scientist the climate change is real and affecting us now. >> the good news is all over the world people are beginning to figure that out, beginning to step up.
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>> using intensive carbon-based tools, moving another action. >> never has there been such a unifying issue is climate change. >> the time is now, we don't have anymore time. it is all about everyday people coming together and believing in their ability to change the country. >> plugging my voice into the justice system to hold everyone accountable. >> again and again until i see some results. >> the hope is in the resistance. >> who will stand with you now to inherit a healthy single planet? who will stand with you now? ♪ >> all right. [applause]
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>> i am senator bernie sanders of vermont. i went to welcome all of you to the fourth national town meeting that my office has sponsored. i will first deal with the need to make sure healthcare is a right in this country, not a privilege, a medicare for all system. the second town meeting dealt with the grotesque levels of income and wealth inequality. third town meeting dealt with foreign affairs and the iran nuclear treaty. tonight we are dealing with what the scientific community tells us is the great crisis facing our planet and facing humanity and that is climate change. before i go any further i want to thank the live audience, folks in this room and the
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spillover room downstairs for being with us at the heart office building. i want to thank the panelists who have come from all over the world to be with us tonight and i want to thank the progressive online meeting outfits for helping us live stream this event, the young turks. now this, the years project, intercept the nation, the guardian, and interestingly enough, i want to thank two mainstream media outlet, cbs and cnn who are live streaming this as well. [applause] >> i also went to thank the many -- hope i'm not leaving out any, many environmental organizations for helping us get the word out about this event and that includes greenpeace,, sunrise
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movement, the dream core, people demanding action and friends of the earth. finally i wants to thank all of you all over the country and throughout the world. understand it is absolutely imperative we get our act together on this issue and country throughout the world and take on the fossil fuel industry and transform the energy system away from fossil fuel. let me just say a word about tonight and i should mention that unlike commercial television this event is not sponsored by exxon mobil. [laughter and applause]
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>> nor is it sponsored or paid for by the crotch brothers who have made most of their fortune in the fossil fuel industry. let me explain the format for tonight. we will have 5 separate segments, each led by an expert and a particular aspect of climate change we will be discussing. let me mention their names and thank them for being with us and i will formally introduce them during their part of the discussion in these expert panelists are doctor brenda, mister martinez, alexandria cortez, mayor dale wolf of georgetown, texas, and doctor camelot house. they will be questioned by our ongoing panel you see in front of you and will be here
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throughout the evening and that panel consists of 3 individuals who spent much of their lives in the fight against climate change and in the fight for environmental justice and they are built a given, who is not only an outstanding author who has written the most important books ever written on climate change, but he is an extraordinary international organizer and one of the co-founders of we also have up here tonight mister woodley, an award-winning actress, who has devoted much of her adult life to environmental activism and also on the board of our revolution. and lastly, many of you know van jones is a political commentator on cnn and long been an environmental activist
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who served as president obama's special advisor for green jobs and is the author of several best-selling books on climate action. let's get the evening going and it is my pleasure to introduce doctor brenda who is director of climate science at the union of concerned scientists which is one of the most important environmental organizations in the world. she is a co-author of the recently released federal climate change report, the chapter which dealt with economic courses to climate impacts. thank you so much for being with us. let me begin by asking you this question. donald trump has indicated on many occasions that he does not
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believe that climate change is caused by human activity and he does not believe that climate change is a threat to our planet and on more than one occasion he has described climate change as a hoax. remember, you are in the united states capital now. here is a tough question. are you ready? is donald trump right? [laughter] >> i can say that 97% of scientists agree that climate change is real. it is primarily due to us and scientists and engineers and many other folks have plenty of solutions roll up our sleeves to fix this problem. >> you are suggesting the president of the united states may not be right on his assertion? i don't want to put words in your mouth. >> thank you. >> let me start with a question and let everybody jump in, you
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worked on the recent intergovernmental panel on climate change report. can you give us the major take aways from that report? >> absolutely. the main finding of the fourth national climate assessment is climate change is not some problem in the distant future. it is here, it is now, it is happening in every part of the country. the other aspect of the report is we already know we have had wildfires, droughts and hurricanes in 2017-2018 that exceeded the cost of $1 billion per event, per disaster. some far exceeded those costs. for example, by $90 billion, $50 billion, and $125 billion for hurricane maria, irma, and
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harvey. it is no surprise that in our chapter on the national climate assessment we find that if carbon emissions continue unabated the us could endure annual costs in $100 billion in some sectors but if we did go on a low emission pathway we could reduce those damages to the us by nearly half in the labor sector and nearly 60% in extreme mortality sector. >> many thanks for being here. i have the privilege before we came of getting to sit down with 8 or 9 people who survived the fires in paradise and those other towns.
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that is what has happened at 1°c global temperature rise. we are on path even if people meet their paris targets for 31/2 ° temperature rise, talk a little bit about, i think sometimes people may not quite understand just how far into this saga we already are and how immediate the need for action is. this isn't something we can postpone a few more legislative sessions or presidential terms. >> no, in fact the intergovernmental panel on climate change special report on one and a half degrees celsius rise above preindustrial is a direct result of the paris climate agreement because they said the scientific community, what does that mean? what would it take for us to do that? the us, the world, we have artie experienced 1°c and we see in the headlines climate influence extreme events.
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we continue on the current path, we would hurtle past wanted to half degrees celsius rise above preindustrial by the middle of this century and we would get to 22°c by 2065 or 2060. to bend that, we have a critical decade to a dozen years to change things, the destiny infrastructure you hear about later and the new policies and options that are out there to reduce global emissions. >> can you come up with something to suck carbon out of the air? >> you bring up a good point. the one of the most famous is a tree. [laughter and applause] >> as scientists and engineers we have not done better than photosynthesis. there's a lot of good blue
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carbon that is caught up there. you go on coastal waterways and we can see seagrass, mangroves, a lot of good carbon storage. however, what that special report tells us, if we go past wanted to have to grieve and go to 2°c that is a big difference in sealevel rise and that could overwhelm some of these natural nature-based solutions. the seas would rise too fast to store that blue carbon. for example the difference between wanted to have to grieve see world and 2 ° the world would mean 4 inches of sealevel and that would expose, may not sound like much but in terms of people around the world, you would expose 10 million more people to sealevel rise influenced consequences.
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>> the point of nature healing nature, that is a bit of a dialogue when you talk about climate change, when you say what can we do right now to work with nature and prevent us from getting to wanted to half degrees and is that part of the dialogue at all from your standpoint? >> absolutely. not only help store carbon but also help protect people and make them safer, the fact that wetlands in louisiana used to be far offshore and when storms and hurricanes would come they would protect them but with sealevel rise, it has eroded so much that when a hurricane katrina hits it is so close and the storm surge is really devastating to gulf coast communities and many shoreline communities. >> let me ask you this. we are all familiar with the absolute horror that took place in california. we are aware of the
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acidification of the ocean, rising sea levels, the increase in extreme weather disturbances. if donald trump and the fossil fuel industry wins this debate tell us what the planet looks like in 2030. >> we really start seeing things happen after about 2030. what we do today is already potentially unleashing some very dire consequences in antarctica. it may not happen right away but if we go past certain threshold we may be unleashing a destabilization of the west antarctic ice sheet which could cause massive sealevel rise. we really want to hold that. >> what are the implications? what is the massive sealevel rise mean to coastal communities all over the world? >> most people live near the
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coasts around the world. that means many of our cultural heritage cherished sites, people would have to, many places would be inundated. >> communities where millions of people live would be underwater. in terms of national security, mass migrations of people. >> lots of folks are looking at temporary migration, thing of the camp fire, think of a hurricane, you have a diaspora in country moving to other states, in the united states, and between country migrations. they may be temporary, they may be long-term. people are on the move, adapting to climate change but doesn't have to be that bad. if we roll out solutions now, we get smart about adaptation, we make sure it is equitable. >> this is as much a question for the rest of the panel as
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you because you just got it something very important. studies in the last couple years indicated we can expect on current trajectories we will see 150, 200, 300 million climate migrants as the century goes on. look at what has happened, the spasm, the politics of the western world into to have 1 million people leave syria and head out. we have got to be thinking about not just -- all kinds of things in big new ways. >> i do this for a living. what bums me out -- so what gives you personally hope?
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i have been here 6 minutes and you had to do the whole report. what kept you going? what gives you hope? >> what gives me hope is many people are out there figuring out solutions in many sectors. we need all of us. what we also highlight in the report is a lot of initiative in the united states, over 455 cities have been making solutions to reduce and slow the pace of sealevel rise. every single state in the united states has some sort of climate or energy-related policy. most of them are transportation. you could go through the list of 30 different policies we highlight in the report. that gives us a lot for the whole world because we need global emission reductions and
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everyone around the world to have access out of new energy as well as an equitable way. >> you want to jump in? we are running out of time. >> from your standpoint what can someone watching this at home right now do to help? if they feel activated by this conversation and the things you said, what can you offer them? >> first thing is start looking at your own life, what you can do in small ways and share those stories with your friends. secondly, absolutely ask your political leaders, business leaders, what are you doing to make the community more safe from the climate impacts that are affecting us and our neighbors? what are you doing to reduce emissions globally? you will hear from some great folks in the upcoming panels about what they are doing and share the stories. every day i tried to reduce my emissions and figure out new ways.
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and share the success stories. it is a more fun and interesting world. a lot of public health benefits from a lot of the renewable energy solutions, more carbon reservoirs, it is going to be hard but we are ready and have to get to work now. >> let me thank you for being here and point out, not only the intergovernmental climate change, we have a report from 13 agencies of the federal government and all of these reports make very simple and profound point and that is the time is late and as a planet that means countries all over the world, not just the united states, not just russia or china but countries all over the world have to stand up, take on the fossil fuel industry if we are going to leave our kids and grandchildren a planet that is
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habitable. this is a crisis situation. it is unprecedented and we have to act in an unprecedented way. thank you. [applause] >> thank you for your leadership. >> one of the great sites of energy in the world. >> trump's administration opened our sacred land to oil and gas development, 95% of the arctic has already been opened to oil. this is the last remaining 5% and this is the heart of the people, we are on a sinking ship, 33 coastal communities dealing with erosion. there is no ice to protect the land when the water comes in. that is not there anymore.
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33 coastal communities, they have 2 move communities. our animals have sores on them and it is concerning, they are going to be bringing it in 53, 90,000 pound vehicles into our sacred lands. this is where our animals live, they are not concerned about the impact that will have on animals or people's rights being violated. we are not asking for jobs, not asking for schools, we are asking to continue to live off of the animals that provided for thousands of years. and for children to have a healthy ecosystem.
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this is a crisis, humanitarian crisis and we need to start thinking of our children. [applause] >> of all of the generations out there who are helping us to fight against climate change it is clear that it is the young people who are in the forefront and we are delighted to welcome martinez who currently serves as youth director of earth guardians. a conservation organization dedicated to empowering young people. he is a grassroots activist rallying the american people to take a stand against the fossil fuel industry. let me begin with a question. and that is, over the last 10 or so years, the fossil fuel
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industry has spend $1.7 billion on campaign contributions and lobbying expenditures. and i can tell you from firsthand knowledge after running all over this country that in state after state where there are environmental initiatives on the ballot, the fossil fuel industry has been spending huge amounts of money trying to defeat those initiatives. further, the vast majority of members of congress take contributions from the fossil fuel industry. one of the leading families in this country, one of the wealthiest families in this country are the koch brothers who spend many hundreds of billions of dollars trying to elect right-wing candidates, anti-climate change candidates,
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have made their fortune primarily through the fossil fuel industry. my question is a simple one. given the unanimous power of the oil, gas and coal industry, how can the american people stand up to these powerful special interests and do what has to be done for the planet? >> thank you for having me. as you made clear, the fossil fuel industry is not only contaminating our water, polluting our air, but polluting our politics. it happened for a long time. when i was a little kid growing up i continue to see, growing up in colorado and we experience a lot of impacts from natural gas extraction where members of the community are getting sick, contaminating our water, friends and family members putting great apparel due to expanding this industry. this issue was less and less about red or blue.
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we see in our state progressive democrat politicians claiming to be representatives of our future, our people, claiming to care about climate change and clean jobs but taking massive campaign contributions from the natural gas and oil corporations. it is clear this isn't about left or right wing but politicians standing up to represent the best interests of our community and our people and those backed by the fossil fuel corporations which historically it has been politically risky to stand up to the fossil fuel powers and politicians. my generation is very different. young people in the world today have a different understanding and perspective on the world because we are the future and what is yet to come, we are here now. this is a perspective of pushing the agenda so it is politically risky to not stand up to the fossil fuel powers. >> what are you seeing around
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the country? what kind of activities are you seeing from your generation getting in politics? >> one thing i see clearly is our generation is more connected than any generation in the past has ever been. that is for various reasons, social media, information and technology connecting is the global community but also because of things like pipelines that are connecting communities, tarzan's, communities in rural nebraska and you see the fights, the keystone pipeline, the cowboy and indian alliance was an example of people from different perspectives, different communities, different ways of life connected by threats to their way of life. looking at issues like standing rock. when you see the people that inspired and brought together from walks of life all over the
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place like this is something that is unifying us. is a national community and global community recognizing this is bigger than any of us, bigger than politics, bigger than the environment, bigger than rising sea levels, it is about a way of life. you hear the newsweekly this is about people, humans, the fact that our generation, my little brother and my little sister, their future is threatened by a crisis politicians have spent too much time making it about partisan issues and really tainting what needs to be a unifying space. climate change has the opportunity to bring people together from a space of hope, space of opportunity and space of solution. that will connect and unite people because when you look at these fights it is not just to end these pipelines but we see communities that need clean jobs and support an economy that will be thriving and that is the place we can come together on this issue, the economic prosperity, a sustainable planet for the next
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generation. >> i was going to say something similar to what you said. i do feel past paradigms around in climate change, but your involvement people retreat, i will go live over here and protect my family and make sure my communities safe but we don't have the luxury to do that anymore. it is a community, you have to be involved in your community. is there anything you noticed with our generation and generations who are still here. it sounds so funny. i didn't mean it like that. every generation on the planet. how people are working together in a new way because of the new sense of connectivity. >> the story that inspires people the most is when we communicate well, this comes from a place of love and that is something people across the board can relate to because b
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when i think of why i spent the last 12 years of my life, i started talking about these issues when i was 6. i think about the sacrifice and energy. it is not about a crisis or an issue or a problem but the moment, the magic, the places i have been in the culture, the music, the food and everything beautiful about human existence, those beautiful things, led to the small things, that is what we find is worth fighting to defend, setting aside what we disagree about is what separates us and divides us, these different things in our society that separate people in that place of love and understanding that this is the most important issue of our time, you care about gender equality, the most recent studies including the
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drawdown, the best way to address the climate crisis was advocate for women's reproductive rights, a direct line of intersection because climate change is that thing, that umbrella crisis, more than we ever successfully communicated. >> let me speak to the older people here, see how you communicate. bill? >> i completely get here and hope and love all those good things but i think sometimes i channel my inner bernie and just get pissed off. to go back to the question you lived through this thing in colorado where the oil industry spent community activists 40-1 in a successful effort, not would have banned fracking but abandoned in people's front yards in schoolyards, 40-1, they spent $40 million. one of the things the sunrise
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movement has done so well is try to get politicians on the hook. are you going to take money from the fossil fuel industry or are you not? next time an election comes around to you think this is an issue that moves young people, if they look at two politicians and one of them has somebody that came from exxon and another doesn't, that will make a real difference in how people vote? >> i definitely think that what we can see is exciting and inspiring, speaking to the younger generation, something politicians need to learn how to do better and better every election cycle. young people feel disenfranchised from politics because they feel their voices aren't represented or heard by politicians and different people in politics like andrea -- alexandria who is about to tear up the mic, excited to be with us.
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there is this level of connectivity we see and part of that is yes, we love politicians that speak to us but at the same time there is accountability that needs to be held for all politicians, however good their game is, we have to hold them accountable. this pledge not to take money from fossil fuels is huge because my community, former governor hickin the liberty claims to drink fracking fluid, efforts to ban fracking, we were outspent by the fossil fuel industry 40-1 and this is a continuous cycle where people are fighting, people are on the ground. we see indigenous pipeline movements across the nation from line 3, people standing up and fighting back so we need the political willpower as stated previously, political willpower and that is a place
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in which people and the constituents and voters especially the younger ones will play a significant role holding every politician that comes to office accountable. >> you said you are 18. >> i voted for the first time. >> first-time voter? [cheers and applause] >> i have known you since you were in single digits and it is unbelievable to watch you become who you are becoming. one thing about you i always marveled at is that you talk about politics, but that is not your thing. you have always been an artist. and i think we are in a time politicians and business
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leaders and military can't keep us safe from climate change, politicians can't pass a bill, most business models eat up jobs, give jobs to robots, not people. the people we usually look to, normal times, that can't help and it seems to me this will come from unlikely places, artists, mystics, strange people like dc people. you are an artist. i wonder before you do that. >> are you down? >> the great artists have been the ones that were champions of the people, john lennon -- paving the way. our generation of artists is putting out fires as well. we are taking back the power,
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bringing it to the people, we stand for justice and freedom and treated equal. this is our time. we build a legacy and leave it and you can't say my name but you know it is me when you see it. i am indigenous, product of genocide, colonization stole my past that i refuse to hide, never alone, hungry like a pack of wolves, howling at the moon, indigo, through the woods, highest of bureaucracy, sick broken democracy, center for prophecy, overthrowing kingdoms ready to break free from, and leadership, leading ships to freedom. state of emergency, wake up people, strike a match, light a flame, you can cuts to the world of fire. i can see your eyes, born to be a freedom fighter, the cities you're coming from,.to be strongest in the shadows you're running from, overcome, stand up, hands up, don't shoot, a close up, indigo, vision every
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artist and take the power back and finish what we started. it is not the way we have been making, it is the roots of revolution, the power we are taking. [cheers and applause] >> i think i can say without fear of being wrong that this is a unique presentation in the halls of the united states senate. thank you so much. [cheers and applause] >> my name is marcella. i am 21 years old and i was born and raised in south florida. growing up dealing with hurricanes was a regular occurrence for me and my family.
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i remember being really little and feeling afraid because sometimes my dad would have to work during the storm but it wasn't until my family moved to fort lauderdale that i became closely acquainted with the devastating impact of sealevel rise. we moved somewhere called the venice of america. it is well-known for its beautiful waterways and coasts. my family was lucky enough to live one block away from the beach but when we moved i started to notice that every time a storm would hit the street in front of my apartment would flood. sometimes it would flood even when it wasn't raining. mobile businesses put out sandbags to stop the water. my parents had to move the cars to higher ground for parking. it was a weird dystopia where regular people were being forced to move because experts in the oceans title patterns and sealevel rise, the entrance to my apartment building would be blocked off from flooding. at the time i didn't know any of this had to do with
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something called global climate change or sealevel rise. i just knew this was an everyday part of my family's like this i went to college and learned my personal experiences with flooding and hurricanes were just warning signs of more drastic changes to come for florida and the rest of the world. scientists predict by the end of the century south florida and fort lauderdale can see up to 6 to 7 feet of flooding. that would put one out of every 8 homes in florida underwater. more than eight people in south florida, no one should have to live in fear of losing their family or their homes to rising seas. that is why i am fighting to stop climate change and create millions of jobs in the process. [applause] >> our next guest is someone i suspect is not made much introduction. alexandria cortez. [cheers and applause]
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>> the congresswoman elect from new york's 14th congressional district. she is a bold progressive fighting for a green new deal and for other legislation not only in terms of the environment, they are going to protect ordinary people against big money. alexandria, we are delighted your joining us this evening. let me follow with a simple question. we have heard over and over again from the trump administration and fossil fuel economists that if we transform our energy system away from fossil fuels and become more energy efficient and moved to wind and solar and other sustainable energy, they are telling us it will be a disaster for the economy. is donald trump right? that is a hard one.
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i want you to think about it before you responded. or is there in fact ideas out there that would enable us to create millions of good paying jobs as we move away from fossil fuels? >> it is unsurprising that the response to any bold proposal that we have is to incite fear, to incite fear of loss, fear of others, to incite fear of our future. but the only way we are going to get out of the situation is by choosing to be courageous. that is the only way we are going to get out of this and it is just plain wrong. the idea that we are going to somehow lose economic activity, as a matter of fact, it is not just possible that we will create jobs and economic activity by transitioning to renewable energy but it is inevitable that we are going to create jobs, inevitable that we will create industry and
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inevitable that we can use the transition to 100% renewable energy as the vehicle to truly deliver and establish economic, social, and racial justice in the united states of america. that is our proposal and what we are here to do because in the depths of darkness and the depths of despair which we last saw. when we think about where we were when the new deal was established, we were a nation in depression, in great depression, a nation on the brink of war. we saw the rise of fascism creeping across europe. no one thought that a nation so poor, so scarce and in such dire straits as we were in that time could pursue such a bold economic agenda but we chose to do it anyway. we had the courage to do it anyway and that is what this moment demands of us right now. that is what we have to do. this is going to be the great society, the moonshot, civil rights movement of our generation.
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that is the scale of the ambition this movement is going to require. [applause] .. how do we -- i think what we all understand is we are fighting for the future of the planet. but while it alexandria is talking about is not only can we effectively combat climate change, but in the process, we can do good economics and create millions of good paying jobs here and throughout the world. go into some detail. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. it's important to also talk about the fact that this has not just been economic solutions. this is the mechanism this is the mechanism through which we can really deliver justice to communities that have been underserved. the water in flint is still dirty. the water influence is still dirty. we've got children, we're
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talking earlier come with children that are choking on the smoke in california. those same children and rather children mirrored of those children in puerto rico are choking on the fungal spores because would not recuperated from the crisis in the mold from the flood is taking up all of these peoples homes. we have justices in this country. those i injustices are constitud a frontline communities, indigenous black and red communities, the one experienced the greatest depth of this injustice, but if we chose and if we had the moral political and economic courage to say we're going to fix all the pipes in flint we would put a lot of people to work at that at the same time. and that is whatt this is about. [applause]
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band should ask the first question because he wrote the book on the green collar economy and green jobs. first of all, i just [inaudible] it is just unbelievable. bill, ernie, myself and other people we tried to take this in 2008. a big part of obama's agenda was creating a new deal and i had a job in the white house to try to implement right-wing came after me and they had to resign under fire then they came after bill and we couldn't get it done. but i think you're going to get it done. >> we are going to get it done. [cheering] rather than talk about my book the green collar economy --
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[laughter] i have a two-part question. one is about you and the other is about your generation. where did you come from, why did you run for office? you told me that he went to a protest in as a result of something happened. can you talk about that? >> i first started considering running for congress, i do a lot of people want to run from congress -- [laughter] i started thinking about running for congress at standing rock in north dakota and it was around that activism where i saw people putting their lives on the line and native people putting everything they had on the line not just for themselves, not just so the country could honor the treaties that we've made that for the entire water supply for the midwest united states
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and they are putting everything on the line for others, for people they've never met and never knowing that they didn't children were out there drinking that water, going to drink that water and when i saw that, i knew i had to do something more. it wasn't planned to be this way but i guess it's kind of a poetry of history of swords that's where i started and the first week people came up and asked me to join them in protest and to take their protest to the halls of congress and it's whats what needs to be done in this moment. >> the fact that you start as a protester and then run for office against all odds and win and then still protesting even while you are in power i think the idea of being both a movement leader and a politician
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but i think bernie sanders is probably best exampl the best ef this something that's important. the other thing i think about your politics that's interesting is your generation uses the term intersection out of the check until about -- [laughter] we called it a rainbow coalition in the 80s and 90s but you have taken it to a different level. we have a slogan green jobs not jail we saw a criminal justice and economic justice, environmental justice. kids can be putting up solar panels. can you speak to this power of your deal?
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>> the core is believed no person behind. we cannot have a solution or move forward unless every single american is considered a part of that and whenever we see oversight often times we get to the negotiating table and there's this idea we can meet the poorest of the poor behind or we don't have to worry about this tiny sliver of the population and eventually that creates a crack and it's usually where things always break down. when we create from the most vulnerable to the most powerful and acknowledge and see every person in this country which is what it's about but we've chosen not to see people in this
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country we've chosen not to see people in this country until the majority of us have become on c. and economically. working people are not seen in the halls of congress, are not seen in policymaking. you said millions of people are suffering and pain, they turn on the tv. your observation on how media covers the pain working people feel. >> i think it is true that negligence and how we cover working people. you look at this idea i think it's been this kind of interesting puzzle and how the
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media even treats me because in our journey i am a working person that won a seat against all odds where i spent $4 million buy a 300,000 in the bank all in small dollar contributions and we won anyway. people didn't know what to say or how to react. she was just a bartender never mind the fact that i had experience in policymaking and i was an educational organizer. it's the idea the amount of money you make for a living equals your worth in society. >> there's an announcement about your shoes. [laughter] we need at least a half-hour discussion about your shoes. just kidding. and the same day it is a funny note, but the exact same day as
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the trump administration climate report which they tried to bury and they tried to air a month earlier the day after thanksgiving, the same day they spend in prime time talking about my shoes and if that's what i talked about they won't even bring it up, they don't bring up the percentage of americans that make less than 40,000 or $50,000 a year. they don't bring up the fact we have some of the largest amounts of wealth in american history that we have never seen so many people struggling and living paycheck to paycheck in the way that we are today. >> to bring it back to jobs and opportunity, people who are currently working in coal mines or jobs that are we talk about replacing or bringing new opportunity i have a family
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member who is a coalminer and he isn't against the reality of climate change, he isn't against renewables is or how am i supposed to keep myself as the transition happens. how do you speak on that? >> great question. and for folks interested in learning more about this whole movement i suggest when we talk about transition we talk about just transition. the transition to renewable energy that also provide justice to the communities impacted whether they are people that need to leave their homes from the shores of puerto rico or coal miners that feel they may be transitioned out of a job we need to have a transition that includes fully funding the pensions that all of these coal miners are due of which they are being stripped. that means we need to provide for those that are younger in their careers and provide educational opportunities in order for them to transition to renewable energy jobs as well.
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there's an amazing environmental activists in virginia are name is paula jean and she says if another country came in and bombed our mountains and poisoned our water, we would go to war. we can't allow that level of disrespect of our people and our land to continue. and again, when it comes to the economics of it, we can put so many people to work. we need to relay the roads and rebuild schools and invent technology that's never even been invented yet. there is no shortage of work to do what w but we need to decideo it. >> thank you so much. you've done this thing that politicians do is seize a moment
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when it appears and the sight of you joining the sunrise movement in the office to say time for change was a galvanizing moment. it took this fall when we've had one disaster after another and one huge report after another and made them politically real and mason and so such gratitude. as i understand it takes until 2020 to figure out where we are going so over the last ten or 12 years the climate and learned a lot of lessons in the midwest people have learned about how important stopping eminent domain for private gain would be
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across north america we've learned how important tribal sovereignty is to these fights over and over we learned the key lesson is not just to say we are going to do green jobs but we have to stohad to stop new fossl infrastructure because if we keep digging the hole deeper at the same time we are digging out of it we will never get out. what is the mechanism the next couple of years for people to take those lessons into those concerns and help make them into this policy that maybe after the 2020 election we will be able to do something with. >> the good news is we are not starting from scratch. there are so many people like senator merkley who has established the committee when he was in the house. there's a lot of legislation that has been drafted to start addressing some of these issues just transitions in coal whether
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it's our energy infrastructure there's a lot of work that has already been done but it needs to be consolidated and brought under the green new deal and when we try to solve the issue piecemeal we are not going to get it solved in time that's why we are asking for this ambitious cingular plan and why i believe the progressive movement is the only movement that has answers right now. we are the only ones drawing from the lessons of history from franklin and eleanor roosevelt and some of the ambitious projects that we have pursued in american history and that is the scale it is going to take so that there's so muc there is sot has been done and underlining questions when it comes to the investment in technologies.
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when we choose to invest in the new technology we deserve a return on that investment in for far too long we gave money to tesla and a ton of people and we got no return on the investment that the public made in creating technologies tha that at the tie that we get our due because it is the public that founded and financed a lot of innovative technology that is another >> let me just jump in and think so much for being with us. in the next two weeks and months, there important decisions are going to be made in the house and in the senate. the truth of the matter is that the american people, in my view, understand the moral imperative of combating climate change for kids and grandchildren. and the increasingly understand that we can create millions of jobs as we do that. so i would hope that everybody who asserted alexandria tonight, she can't do it alone.
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the other good people in the house can't doo it alone. we need millions of people to stand up until the congress, hey, start worrying about her kids and grandchildren alexandria, thanks so much. [cheers and applause] >> i've seen a lot of hurricanes but not like this. >> tens of thousands of homes have been damaged or completely destroyed. you have noo electricity. . [inaudible]
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[speaking in native tongue] i think we did a fantastic job in puerto rico. with climate change we have to be honest and understand. we are going to push for these clean energy sources. taking advantage of the natural resources. take advantage of that and -- [applause] >> and now i am very proud to tell everybody how bipartisan we
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are. our next guest is a card-carrying member of the republican party. [applause] >> and he is mayor dale ross of georgetown, , texas, a community of some 70,000 residents. an mayor roberts has rightfully achieved a great deal of national attention, because he successfully, and is municipally owned utility, electric utility, transitioned his city to 100% renewable energy sources. [applause] and i think one of the points we want to make tonight, and mayor ras baraka speak to it, is obviously the main issue is saving the planet. nothing more important than that.
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but we are also talking about the ability to create millions of jobs, and in my view come and think mayor russell talk to this, over a period of time we have the capability of lowering utility costs in america. all over this country people who must give to each each of the bill, they pull their hair out, i write? sick and tired of rising utility costs. and think we had the opportunity as we transition away from fossil fuel to stabilize and lower that. mayor ross, thank you so much for you and your wife to be here with us tonight. let me ask you this question. your city as i understand it now has 100% renewable energy sources. >> that's true. >> and i would imagine that having moved away>> from fossil fuel, the electric bills in your community are soaring and is going is beating down the halls of the city hall in order to get
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you to go back to fossil fuels. and i write? >> you are absolutely wrong. >> glad to hear that. >> the critics would hope that's the case but that's not what we did. we made our decision based on the facts. we went based on where the facts would be, to what we wanted to do is achieve two things. one, we wanted to eliminate volatility in the short-term market. number two, we wanted to have an electricity source that we could mitigate regulatory and governmental risks. and so when you wind and solar, which are renewables and it is clean energy, there's not a lot the federal government can screw up for you, or the state government because there's not a lot to regulate. we were able to do as were able to sign contracts for 20 and 25 years, that are kilowatt per hour price does not increase over the terms of the 20 and 25 year contract. if you subnormal inflation at 1.5-2% what are we going to looking at in ten years? i think i which will be
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considerably lower think which will be considerably lower than those in surrounding communities. [applause] >> so listen up, listen up america. you may believe in climate change. you may not, but with this republican mayor is telling you, is if you want affordable electric bills, think hard about moving to sustainable energy. okay, a want to start it off? >> first of all, it's only recently that people would be shocked to bring this coming from a republican. the guye that ran for president in 2008, he said climate change was real caused by humans. cap-and-trade with 60. it would would create millions of jobs. i miss that guy every day. his name is john mccain. john mccain ran as a climate champion and a climate heart in your party just ten years ago. the only thing obama and mccain never thought about because they both agreed.
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i wonder for you now, looking at the party, what are the best arguments that you are finding to bring your republicans sisters and brothers around? i'm tired of us just having a food fight about it. we're on the take and going down, having a food fight. what arguments work forth this w republican party? >> i think the best argument is it has to be a fact based decisionmaker. decision-maker. i trust the scientist in their field who can land on mars rover 300 million miles from here versus some of the really doesn't have any education or expertise in climate change. [applause] i think you live to the subject think ifperts and i you're going to run for office you need to make that argument, that not only is renewable energy good economically, it's good for apartment as well because i've always said is when the economic argument you win
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the environmental argument by default. i think the greatest hope is if you look at it and you see this audience and use these young people, this is a future that i see. and with their help we could get folks elected to office that knows that there can be both environmental benefits and economic benefits to going renewable energy. i think you'll see the type is changing the let me tell you why the type is changing. we are at a tipping point now where it's all about cost. and coal cannot compete with wind and solar on costs. no matter who says we will bring coal jobs back. if you're b that that's absoluty not true because they will not be able to compete in the market. it's an open market. what we're looking at is would look at tremendous job creation in wind and solar and renewable to get your three kinds of renewal, wind, solar and hydro. if you look at texas, we are number one and wind and number five and solar and we are
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probably number one console and a couple of years as well. our solar farm is pretty cool. it's a two-mile array and it attracts the site in a more excessive sun rotates, so that you can maximize the energy producing, let me tell you what. it takes three people to run, that was 1.7 million solar panelsit on 1250 acres but up in amarillo where are wind farm is this 97 turbines. those guys do maintenance they want and it takes them a 30 days to get to turbaned number 97. the best interest of folks on that when farm were in the oil patch and they like it's better pay, cleaner work like the guy told the cohesive and 35, i'm going to retire as a technician because i really like my work and is going to be there i think forever. [applause] >> have you found that the that many conversations with various
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politicians across the country in other cities as well usingt you as an example in asking questions on howan they can emulate what you have created? >> is a city north of dallas called denton and they come with the first city in texas to be 100% renewable. currently the largest in the country. they will ben the second and texas. our folks have been working with them and they understand economics and they understand the long-term certainty and they will go down that path just like we have. and i will say this, and we were out in hollywood, i'm in hollywood -- [laughing] four movies laster, okay? >> you have some competition here. you did know that. >> i'm serious. but we were out there. we gave a presentation and i get back to georgetown. this is where there's green and green energy on it economically billman
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feldman said. i get a focal from the billionaire who saw our presentation and he says i need to meet with you because he believes in rewarding cities that have really good environmental policies. he's authorized me to stand up to $50 million in your city. some not good and interesting because we're currently figuring out a way to spend his $50 million. if a a given up on will ask my wife nikki have spent $50 million and we will have that figured out in what, two weeks. [laughing] not only is it the right thing to do, it's economically the right thing to do and it's the future because you get into the moral and ethical discussion now. don't we have an obligation to leave the planet better for kids and grandkids and great grandkids? we have the ability. he just have a bold vision it leaves you like to make that happen gels help. [applause] -- you also help. >> one of the themes of this
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night has been this generational transformation. one of things that ms. had to thinken about is what their city would be like ten, 20, 30, 40 years down thehe road. do you find the fact that you have turned this into a clean city is an attraction for people, young people moving to your area, bringing new businesses, second think? >> int don't know exclusively if that's it but it is part of it and it certainly helps but most of the folks are looking for good schools compensate city and opera that. we have been one of in the last four years where second, first and fourth fastest growing city and the united states forces between 50-100,000. this is one elevator the younger folks thinks it's pretty cool because we are innovative and progressive. although it is in texas and the state and county and my city, they are a little red mr. sanders. just a little red. >> we are working on that. >> i i understand. this just proves republicans can
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do environmentally friendly things as well as democrats, okay? the whole key gorsuch is because we don't really base our decisions based on partisan politics. we base them based on the facts and what's good for the citizens we were elected to serve. >> picking up on a point bill made. if i'm a business person looking for place to relocate and i talked to the mirror and you tell me my electric bills go up for the next 20 years, sounds to me like that's a pretty good inducement for me to come to community. >> absolutely. especially if you're a data center. typically the way the incentives work in citiess is you can abate sales tax our real estate taxes. we have the third component which is we can negotiate a downward price so if you had a data center and you will be using it, and he knows on electricity. this is huge benefit to own and you only own to utility compan. we transfer $5 million sort of like a de facto excise tax.
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over the last ten ten years wee transferred over $45 million from the enterprise fund to the general fund. general fund place for police, fire, libraries, roads, park, that kind of stuff. >> let me ask you this question if you like. how do the people in the community feel about the factor when it% sustainable and you're going to be flatlining jordan electric rates for the next -- >> commission and was a bit of a challenge because we had to do a lot of explaining. i gave a lot of speeches. our public relations department was out out in the community g, and on a website. initially there was little resistance. it's too good to be true, right? if it's too good be true there are other doubting thomas is out there. let's just take aut look at it r regular and you tell if your utility bill goes up or not. let's take a look at in the secretary johnli kelly. through education and giving a bunch of speeches, not only of the folks in the city, people
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have supported it and now that we've gotten not only national attention but international attention all across the globe, people take a sense of pride in. we still have that little segment that's not really happy about it because this is some kind of partisan liberal democratic left wing conspiracy policy of some sort. i don't know what the conspiracy is but we're doing it for the wrong reasons, okay. >> eiji didn't tell the people what city was a first in americ america. >> let me tell you what, , there is this senator, okay, whose lasting happen to be sanders. these in my speeches because i was the treaty with the audience. okay, who was the first city and the united states to be 100% renewable and that i will say were from burlington, vermont, and then going okay, the was a mayor that time? he's currently a senator. senator sanders. but that was tremendous because
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the fact of the matter is this. really the cities and counties are the ones that are tasked with providing electricity and utility too their citizens at te state level and federal level not so much. the federal levelle can help annotate what's coming up in congress in 2020, the renewable energy credits expire but notice the fossil fuel credits do not expire in 2020. notice the fossil fuel is a mature industry that doesn't need a boost up. the renewable energy is still a little bit on the young side. if any industry needs that i'll make this deal. do away with the renewable credits, do away from the fossil fuels. let's have a level playing field and see who wins. [applause] >> other questions? >> i'm from tennessee, you're from texas. i grew up in a red state.
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i notice your wife has that beautiful cross. you mentioned doubting thomas. is there spiritual dimension to this? is there -- you talk about politics, economics but i get the station and may be deeper than that for you. i wonder if you speak to that. >> i think it is. i mean, i think we have a duty and obligation to leave the world better than without it, okay? and i think you look in the bible there's all kinds of points made about being a servant and having a servants heart. and if i can just change the world just this much before hopefully aye northbound, then i think it will be a life well lived. i think that's what we can expect. i hope, when i'm dead and gone the poets will write poems and the songs people and george to
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be singing songs about become our maybe just about a little statue somewhere. but in all seriousness, in all seriousness, it's all about living, leaving something better than you found it. i think we're on the path in georgetown to making that happen. >> mayor ross, thank you so much. [applause] . >> the climate change panel has informed us we have 12 short years to bring the entire planet together with her energy system and global economy and then to completely eliminate carbon pollution. that is unrealistic it is happening all over the world. and then to take immediate and aggressive action.
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and then recently to become the country in the world and five times the total amount of electricity in those energy of two.2 million people. and then to release carbon emissions by 2050. and with those and then to invest over $9 billion per year from the solar power generation brazil and india join china to account for 63 percent of the renewable energy around $143 billion and
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he is producing the cheapest electricity in the world through solar and wind plants. so that we must cut carbon pollution emissions. [applause] . >> >> it goes without saying that the climate crisis is not an american issue, not the chinese issue, not a russian issue. this is an issue that is going to impact every country on the planet. and it is absolutely imperative that we figure out ways to bring the world together. maybe instead of fighting wars against each other, innocence to stand together and combat climate change. our last analyst the cv is doctor camilla bausch who is the
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director of the institute in berlin, germany. we thank you so much for coming over. she has been a a long-standing part of the german delegation to the u.n., climate negotiations, and she has been monitoring some of the innovative breakthroughs in sustainable energy thatgh evt taking place all over the globe. dr. bausch, clearly there are some bright spots in terms of breakthroughs in sustainable energy. we are producing energy in many parts of the world that are far less expensive that was previously the case. we are creating jobs in doing that. can you talk a little bit about some of the breakthroughs that wewe are seeing in some of the really innovative things that countries around the world are doing? >> thank you very much. it's an honor to be here. it's a pleasure to be here and join this wonderful panel and, of course, had to come over from germany, meaning i flew.
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and flying to an event which is on a climate crisis, i have to neutralize mighty missions and i dedicate my neutralization which will be an investment in an incredibly efficient family in nigeria to senator sanders. [applause] >> so having said this, i think we would think about innovation, when we think about forward-looking approaches, we have to think different areas. to think both policy, innovative policies. we have to think about innovative business practices. we have to think about innovative citizen action and went to think innovative forward thinking research. let me give you a few examples from some areas and then we can discuss some more. one innovative bold policy which
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was innovated some time ago but it think it was really a game changer was that german -- it was her interest because it allowed citizens, and allowed farmers to get involved in a very where old utility didn't want to invest, renewables, coming to a situation that we actually pushed from 6% of renewables to almost 40% today, driven by the population. it's great for the acceptance that was innovative, at the action was a model which spread picks second, if we think innovative business model, it is this company, it was started with a young entrepreneur in his mid-\20{l1}s{l0}\'20{l1}s{l0} having the vision of bringing clean energy to rural africa, eastern africa where he wanted to provide that the five energy
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come to fight poverty and create opportunities. he went to using the plummeting rices and cost of renewable. and he used digitization. in combination, he attracted more than 100 million of investment, dollars. he, not even ten years income 700 employees in 12 countries and provides 600,000 people with clean energy, wanting to expand that the 20 million in 2023. and with this kind of spirit i think he canan do it. third, innovative approach, i think, i mean, you could also look to the biggest lithium ion battery ever now installed and australia. that is a tesla battery and is getting great services, meaning stabilizing services to the grid in a context we a lot of
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renewables may be needing that. and so that is innovation but i want to look more to chile come you can look all over the world. they are innovative in that way that they turn around the policy. they were heavily call and castigated, and then they have an energy security when the import a gas wasn't delivered anymore. that's kind of painful. they prepared present a changed without they have a desert. deserts are good for solar. the last thing is you don't have, not in my backyard sentiment there, because you can really spread out your solar pics of that's what they now do. they really want to go strong in renewables. they have by now 40% renewables. they they want to go 60% by 2035, and the just discussing this year, i think that is
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another policy approach for chile. >> let me begin the discussion by asking you if we had same leadership and the united states -- [laughing] and around the world, if were able to take on the part of the fossil fuel industry -- sane -- from energy point if you want with the world look like? >> i want to see that world. i think it would look like very different but i think we have two say we all have to become a bit more sane that we are today. that means how do we consume works what do we drive? i think it's a back-and-forth between the people and the policymakers. who do we vote for? i think it's a back-and-forth. in this future situation let's think of a city picked because i think it's very different if you are in a rural area or if you're in a city area, the solutions are different. if you think city, for example, our concept of mobility will be
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very different than today. it's more about how to get from here to there and less about my car, my parking lot, my, my, my. you go to a sharing economy and it will be driven hopefully electric mobility and the electricity of this comes from renewable sources. we will have improved storage capacity, for example, in batteries as we just talked about things like that. so it will look very different from today and we will think much more about our choices, and by the way that does not only affect things which are relevant for the energy system but also plastic or, in which is be a different society and better for our, for the little ones we love. >> first of all, thank you so much in part for bringing, reminding us that this, they don't call it global warming for nothing. this is the first truly global
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problem we have faced. we talked a lot tonight about the united states because we are in the u.s. senate and this is where we have some purchase here, but it was reminding me as you were talking of just amazing scenes i've witnessed in parts of rural africa where people everything energy before, and the first energy to ever got came from solar panels. us if you get a solar panel on the roof, it's nice but if that electricity your whole life. i've neverer sitting around a group of elders and they kept handing the cold bottles of water to drink, and i was grateful because it's hot as heck in the ivory coast, but it took me a little while to figure out why they're so proud to be doing this until the week before that never meant anything cold in this place before. it's a miracle that you can point a sheet of glass at the sun and out the back comes light in cold and information. that's magic. the fact that we don't come we
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are not jumping on it with everything we have is the sign of our own, i think most of the shortsightedness of the fossil industry, which is why i was also going to talk about the tariff and things. talk a little bit about how the profits from renewable energy in germany for elsewhere often flow to the consumer, to the citizens groups, associations, churches, things like that that sponsor and on somebody's installation because i think that's an important part of making the acceptable. >> first of all, if you -- in germany, the citizens involvement, the community involvement. they had different kind of choices they could make, either the land or allow them and get some rent on it or even build themselves. thee models differed but in any
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case, there were communities who said okay, we tended the land or the opportunity to build, and then you grant us a a certain margin of your profits. and with that they were able, for example, the kindergarten or similar things. and overall i think also the job creation in the decentralized system, for the 300,000 jobs were great in the renewable sector. if the farmer builds on his own area, and windmill, he got the profits just for himself. so that was good for him. overall, i think it was more than a million private citizens and small object vendors being involved, more than half of the new renewables were actually owned byy citizens, farmers, the
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communities. >> just a small question, what you've witnessed in your country and how that shifted because of what was created and what is being created. longest time the were in love with solar tv. they just love solar tv. maybe because were not so funny pic is cut of the ideal of the sun or something, i don't know. they love solar tv. that has actually supported the scheme which costs money because at the initial phase we had supports solar energy with, within the public scheme. the nice thing is that our triggers to wind and solar have reduced the cost to where we are today, so i think that our big contribution from germany to climate protection.
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now there is obviously also a debate how to confer the. still i think the ownership, public ownership helps but it doesn't out with everything because not everybody owns. then you have to change infrastructure, and then there are the grades to be built and then you havee public debate ovr where the gradesbu article. it doesn't come without challenges. i must admit, some people say we want to tourism. other single want of offshore wind farms. how do you combine this? can you combine this? the important thing is they are to have the community the involved, the herd and find a solution. maybe it doesn't fit with everybody, and went to think about the common good we're working towards, but involve them, let them be heard and make as good as it can be with the goal you have in mind. >> you think pumped, so that's
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good that we start of kind of bummed and that it's getting better and better and your kind of like global, light lightbulb. so i think that's good. i also just want to brag a little bit that we are fighting here in the u.s. we did get beat in washington state, the bad guys put in a bunch of money. washington state beat us. they beat us in colorado. but in portland a community, what was a, coalition of communities of color got every lined up and able to pass a ballot measure to take $30 million from big-box stores and put that into creating green jobs and solar panels in that type of stuff. portland also dreams of the sun. just like the folks in berlin, and it was a real victory. it was a victory based on people coming together across different
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lines, like alexandria was saying, nobody but got left out, nobody got thrown under the bus and they were able to win. i think one of the things that we forget is that this is cool stuff. the people who are doing this here and around the world are cool people. having a fight but also having a good time pic sometimes get a chance to win, sometimes getting the chance to meet famous movie stars. this is not a bad night for me. can you talk a little bit about, there's a politics of joy that i think is just below the surface in terms of public perception. because you were at standing rock. standing rock created a whole boom of love and joy inducing the part of that. and you talk about, this is a community of awesome, weird, wonderful people around the world, and the doors open, anybody can join.
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>> well, coming from a research institute, i feel i am awesome, weird -- wild. anyway, i can tell you about a few moments of joy i had, then you have the dips in between. so one moment of joy was in 2007. why was that? we weree in bali, we were negotiating in the u.n. climate negotiations, where do we go towards a next international agreement? it was about do we get a mandate to negotiate our future in this setting? and it was a very, very difficult negotiation a also wih -- at the inn we got the deal. he called it bali would just like in the good hollywood movie just for the end we thought it's going to crash, do we actually got it. and then it was hollywood.
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there was a happy moment but then you saw to use later we want to sign the deal, and actually a lot as happened to bring issues to the heads of state level. more than one 100 heads of stae game and with copenhagen, the negotiation didn't come at as a one owe two. but then just a few years later happy moment again, the paris agreement. so that is now the framework we as a world want to work on at work within, work towards the paris agreements, meaning a global effort, common global effort to climate protection and adaptation in solidarity system. i could talk all night. i don't have time. >> somebody who is anderson was going on on the planet, do you perceive that there is a growing sense of urgency about the need for a very aggressive response
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to climate change? by these reports that are part of making people and countries where, before going to save our country in the splint we have to move and move very quickly? are you sensing someone that? >> i think that we are starting to feel a lot of the impact of rising temperature. you see the coral reefs. you see the storms. you see the drought. i talk to people in germany who tell me in the forests that the german folk will actually have difficult times, and they're asking themselves what to plant today to have in the future because we have the weather like in spain, which might be nice in some respect. but anyway, not good for our trees. i think that just makes it very immediate that we're living in a changing climate and that we have to react, that doesn't
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narrow yet in the action we need but i think it's getting at any to look at investments, 70% of the new capacity installed in 27 teen was a noble. most of that money goes to renewables outpacing both nuclear and coal so i think that's good. >> look, let me do this. we have to wrap up pretty soon. >> i just want to say i'm a a t of a group called green for all. not green for some, but green for part of our mission, our mandate is to say that solar panels don't put themselves up. wind turbines don't manufacture themselves. new force don't plant themselves to everything that's good for the planet is a job, a contract, this is opportunity for
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somebody. so we can't fight pollution obvious interpretation people who most need work and giving them a chance to do the work that most needs t to get done, u know. powering the country d in the world in a clean and green way. i just wanted to point that outw you know, that there's something, something can happen globally that we can learn from each other. we can help each other. and folks in the so-called slums and the so-called food and folks in the villages and the gadgets or whatever, and we all pretty much had the same problem. and w with all have the same solution and want to brag on green for all and appreciate you. >> xiuhtezcatl, what your thoughts are for the future? >> yeah, i wonder at what you said about joy and about hope and it's so easy to feel so much
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fear when we talk about climate change because there is a lot of fear that is present. but there's so much work that is already being done and so many people were activated and being here and milling that however many people are stream at this online. i guess i'm consul in rooms in my work, it is your people are now starting to talk about climate change where three years ago when i would mention it nobody had, want m to listen or nobody had russians to ask. now people are eager and encourage to learn. what alexandria said about courage, were starting to see the more and more with this movie because were certain to see people go wait, if we don't have a planet, nothing else matters. none of these other movements monitored everything i'm a part of doesn't matter. i justt feel very joyful now and if you are very excited to have a lot of work to do but knowing we're all going to t get togethr is just --ll it's amazing. [applause]
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>> well, look, you know, i wrote the first book about climate change 30 years ago so i've had as long at times almost anybody on the planet to think about this and deal with it. we could seize this moment 30 years ago in this congress,, johansson agrees climate scientist came and said here's which would happen, let's get to work. we didn't seize the moment because the fossil industry gote inot the way. 20 years ago we were at kyoto, the world coming together for the first time we could identify no, exxon at all major that nothing happened. ten years ago at copenhagen we could is used, as you said, dr. bausch, could've seized the there and nothing happened. in the last ten years there's been the beginnings of a real movement building and bernie, you been a big part of that. when we start the fight against the keystone pipeline, there was literally no other politician i.
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>> two-story. >> when people went to standing rock, when people build the divestment movement that now has passed $7 trillion, now we see the sunrise movement and people -- we better damn well sees this moment because the physics and chemistry of climate change, i mean, we do not get an endless series of moments to seize. if we don't sees this and come when we come back in ten years we are going to be doing the eulogy, not at rally. so this has got to be the moment. i am just so thankful for the energy. i was asking van earlier how may people watch cnn on it given night. we have way more than that tuned in to climate news network tonight i'm watching billions of people watching this around the.
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[applause] >> in the end, in the end, in the end, what changes things his movements. that's what shifts and lets us do the work need doing. we won this argument 25 years ago. the size was entirely clear. the argument was over, but the fight so far we've lost because fights are about power and money. and now we've got to bring out ourselves tonight is a big part of that, so thank you, senator sanders for organizing this and thanks to everybody who is out there doing this work day in day out. [applause] >> let me thank dr. bausch for being with us, like all of you for being here, many people who watch it online.
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look, we are living in the moment in history that has never existed before. the best lines in the world are telling is literally that we have 12 12 years, which is no e at all to get our act together if we are going to leave our kids and grandchildren with a planet that is healthy and habitable. that's the badges. the good news, is i want you to think for a moment, i do want be too utopian, but think for a moment that instead of spending well over a trillion dollars on weapons of destruction to figure out we kill each other, think about making that investment entrants of our energy system. thinkk about how we can bring te entire world together in common cause. we're all in this together. if you're in china, iran, saudi arabia, in the united states, we are all in this together. and our job is to be bold, to
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think very big and to go forward in a moral struggle that says that we will protect the well-being of my seven grandchildren, and all the children of the world. thank you all very much for being with us tonight. >> thank thank you, bernie. [applause] ..
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