tv Jane Kleeb Harvest the Vote CSPAN February 16, 2020 10:00pm-11:01pm EST
>> 6:45, reporter anna wiener looks at san francisco startups in her book uncanny valley. >> i've heard people say that uber couldn't exist without this crazy culture. my question is should it exist, and that culture shouldn't exist if you don't have that culture in the past, that's fine. >> watch booktv presidents day on c-span2. >> i think we are ready to get started. i'm so excited. thank you for coming today. welcome to francie and finch. i am leslie and we have pat at the counter with the two booksellers that will be helping you today, but we have a lot of helpers. i want to find out if you haven't noticed, we have c-span in the room and tony came in from iowa, taking a little break from the iowa campaigning. so, you are going to be on c-span. i will find out when, i'm not sure that you can spread the word and let people know.
marianne andre is here taking photos for jane. among them some of the milky way i don't know if you saw that it was absolutely beautiful. there are some other photographers. so we ar are kinder than a litte fishbowl today. this is great. i also want to recognize stephanie. she's going to be helping with the book signing afterwards. we will try to kind of streamlined process a little bit. how the agenda is going to go, you are going to get introductions of people that will talk about the book. there will be a q-and-a and then afterwards, you will be able to meet the author and have your books autographed. and at that point, there are a lot of people here don't quite know what you were waiting i would invite you to explore the shop, there are great books, we have some treats in the shop. jane brought amazing cookies you have to see before they get gobbled up. restroom is down the hall to the right if anyone needs it, and book sales will be at the counter with pat.
but i also have a credit card swiping machine so we can help with some of the congestion a little bit. so, let's get the party started. i'm going to call up the award-winning journalist and author of the best-selling book, this blessed earth, i don't know where he is. [laughter] come on in and we will get the party started. [applause] >> thank you to everybody for coming into focus at the door, please, come in. there's still at least some seeds around. there's a couple right here to get people into. do you need me about her flex >> be louder. >> okay. i can do that. it's great to see everybody out, such a great crowd. i don't know if you follow the news at all -- [laughter] but there's a few things going on, so it's wonderful to see
everybody setting aside time to hear jane talk about some subjects. by way of introduction i just want to share a story that is the story of the first time i met jane. in 2011, i was hired to do a story about the pipeline, and i was asked to find a way to tell the story of what was going on with the farmers and ranchers i have a friend involved in the effort to who suggested there is going to be a hearing in atkinson, why don't you come and everyone will be gathered in one place and it will give you an
opportunity. i said that's great. i have only one person on my editor that might -- list of my editor saybut myeditor says i ho and that is jane kleeb and i said don't worry i will be there. how do i find jane, don't worry. [laughter] you will find jane. so i phoned david cho showed up at the school and it was a funny kind of aside they followed me around thinking i was a spy or they figured out who i was. everybody was flying to and along with other people but became very familiar faces. i was talking about the fact i still needed to find her then i heard over the crowd of people
who were shoved into the court record waiting to get into the school gymnasium i heard a voice shout that's not fair, those aren't the rules. and there was jane -- [laughter] having a conversation with someone from the state department. what happened is the good folks from americans for progress team in to stand in line against the rules as they had been agreed upon. jane was sharing her opinion that they should be adhered to. they were very prominently posted at three i every entrance place, and when the state department official heard this and called overhead of americans for progress, they had a brief
discussion. as they were separating having agreed that jane was correct and those were the rules as they agreed to, the guy turned over his shoulder and said he will get a lot further being nice. [laughter] well, i am here to tell you that it's not true. [laughter] the remarkable thing to me about what jane has managed to do in organizing in nebraska is to be a friend to people in the communities for the people she's fighting for and at the same time to never be afraid to stand up and speak out on their behalf. she's not necessarily nice all the time, but a little bit of truth telling and toughness is often what is called for in these situations.
i'm sure you all know that already. that is what brings you here. it is my pleasure to introduce jane kleeb. [applause] >> i did not know that story. i don't even remember you being there. it's like a whole whirlwind. so, thank you everyone for being here. there's lots of familiar faces in the room and there's some new faces i haven't gotten to meet yet. it's a little bit intimidating that mary is in the room. as you know, she's an award-winning author and somebody who i read when i was struggling with an eating disorder to help me find my voice. so it's always been amazing that i've actually got to meet mary. i never even knew she lived in nebraska. when i was reading that, i assumed she was a fancy offer in new york city that she's here in the heartland cheering her heart
with all of us. so thank you for being here. i want to first talk very briefly about why i wrote this book, and then i'm going to have randy gave a few words and chairman wright gave a few words and then we are going to read from the book of leviticus or with randy and chairman wright or in the pages as you would guess. if you've been following the keystone site fight, you know tt randy was a lot of our chest throughout the fight, and chairman wright, we made kind of midway through the fight and i told the story in the book so if you are not familiar with that it is detailed in the book. first, why did i write this? as you know, i'm chair of the democratic party in addition to the hacks that i was. and being the chairman of the state is not easy. it's not easy in nebraska and
it's actually even more difficult when you are in the room with a democrats especially democrats on the coast. because i hear all of the stereotypes. why would you care about the rural voters, they are going to die anyway. who cares about the rural voters because they are voting against their interests. and why should they have a say in the politic politics becauses of them and more of us. and every book that i have picked up about rural america it's about people being drug addicted, resisted coming from broken homes. that exists in rural america. but those pages never reflected the people i know in rural nebraska west virginia south carolina or california, because every single state has these
communities. the reality is the democratic party by 2040, 50% of the population will be electing the 4% of the u.s. senate. and you may think well, that's messed up, that is unfair. and maybe it isn't fair, but it isn't going to change anytime soon. what can change i changes how te democratic party actually talks with and stands up fo stand up d listens to the voters, because we used to win in rural america. and not too long ago even in our state, elected in 2006 and served until 2012, and i talk little bit about why he didn't run for office again in the book after they passed obamacare and how essentially the international party completely left behind and then allowed the republicans this fall's
narrative that he was doing some kickback for the state, but the only thing he was giving as a red state governor, he knew you could end a up an unfunded mande in obamacare. he knew he needed to have language in there as a placeholder to say that all states should be able to expand medicaid for the federal government should also be putting money into that as well. and if the democratic party cared about the states they would have stood with senator nelson and they didn't. so i tell a lot of the stories in this book and really the first half of it is about the journey. it is a fight we are still fighting and that we will not give up on and we will never turn our backs on the farmers, ranchers and the liberal progressive climate of the kids who became an unlikely alliance.
so before to brin i bring them e podium, randy is a friend, hero, one of the people i dedicate the book to which i will talk about here in a second. i will turn the microphone over. [applause] it is a privilege for me to be here today and in honor jane wanted me to speak a little bit. i'm going to talk a little bit about the author for a little while. i'm sure most of you are aware of what jane has accomplished over the past decade especially in the fight against the keystone pipeline. i think you would agree that it has been truly remarkable what she has done.
[applause] what jane did, she started out with a small nuclear list of people and she built a coalition that would eventually become known around the world basically we have the reporters here from all over europe. the question is how did jane really do this. and i don't think that it's an easy answer that i can pinpoint a few things that have contributed to her success. first of all, it is her
leadership style. you know, jane she can relate to anyone, whether it is a farmer, rancher, she can relate to them and she treats them the same amount of respect. she has encouraged diversity within the group and has made everyone feel like they are welcome. but i have to say i do like the greatest asset as a leader is her ability to make everyone involved feel like they are an important part of the equation. now this encourages people to participate and really support what's going on. and believe me, they have. the pipeline fires in nebraska are probably the most dedicated group of people that i have ever
been around. when they have been needed, they've shown up and it doesn't make a difference how bad the weather is, how bad the roads are. they come and lend our support. it could be thanks to james leadership. next thing i will talk about is james organizational skills. she is somewhat of a wizard at organizing. [laughter] if you were going to take a vote on getting people back to washington, d.c., jane would have the whole thing figured out down to the last detail. the only problem she does have once in a while -- [laughter] is getting her own schedule so she can be here on time. [laughter] but they will forgiv we will for that. [laughter] &-and-sign there's the political
skills. if you are going to deal with politicians, and you ought to have a little bit of political savvy and that is where she shine. she knows how the game is played and she can push the buttons to get the attention of our elected official and she also did a tremendous job bringing in the press which is here today, we have c-span. it's been tremendously important to get our story out across the country and across the world. and she has very effectively brought to th the media into it. and then last but not least, she can inspire people to do things they didn't know they could do and that is the reason a lot of us are here today.
[applause] when i met chair and write, he had already planted some corn for a couple of years in oklahoma and had not yet developed a relationship with nebraska. when i met him, i knew that we had a leader like right off the bat. within a minute of meeting him. very similar to randy, which i tell some of the story book, i knew randy was a leader when we would have meeting and would want to visit both before and after. as an organizer, that is how you find your leaders and spokespeople as they watch people naturally gravitate towards and that was for the chairman as well. i wanted him to say a few words
and then we will dig into the book. [applause] i was told i needed to read. i found out i had to give a speech. [laughter] i'm going to dovetail off of what randy said. her background and presidency and all the things she did that was from talking to other tribal people and knowing she had affected him so much they would say here's somebody we can trust and count on in the years i've known her for ad talked with her on this issue, that is very
apparent. on the open arms and welcoming everybodeverybody and taking itn herself and to talk about the time commitment and her showing up on time. in indian country there is a phrase where things get started when we are ready but they started twe startedto notice whe together we would sit around saying it's time to get started. so we knew she fully embraced the concepts all the way across the spectrum. [laughter] to watch her leadership and the difference it makes continuing the fight that's still there and everyone is still engaged as much as they were when i first started as a testament to the work and her ideas and who she is so i am honored to know her and work with her and everything
she's brought together on these issues so congratulations on your book. [applause] i will take chairman right or randy as governor of the state of nebraska any day. [applause] first let me read the dedication. it's too frank and randy who taught me to love the land, respect those that walk the fields long before us and listen to the stories of the people. you both believed a mom with a minivan had something to say and something to prove. for those who don't know frank i talk about him in the book as well in the closing chapters.
we served together as the chair and vice chair of the party and we lost him once father's day to cancer and we miss him every single day. you have to come here and read this first quote and then come back up on stage for a little bit. >> what they get a little bit of background on this quote. this was out of a speech that i gave at the state department hearing in grand isle nebraska. during the speech, i compared the battle between we the citizens in transcanada like being a heavyweight oxen doubt to give you an idea of what i was talking about in the book. we are among those with the most to lose if most to gain from the
keystone pipeline. the question is for president obama is he going to raise the heavy hand of big oil or the hand of the spirit of the american people. [applause] one way to bridge the divide is to tell stories of where and how it is already happening. one of the biggest battles in decades of the fight over the pipeline is one of those stories. farmers, rangers, native nations in thand climate advocates all e together to take on big oil, the canadian government, the republican party, and even his second leaders within the democratic party. bringing these diverse elements together was not easy. the key lessons of the fight includes national and local groups working hand in hand and
all of us engaging in constant actions rooted in a strong sense of place that build trust among everyone. the environmental group's work alongside the groups on the ground. foundations that normally only get to the big environmental groups started to fund the grassroots groups along the pipeline. this is a major shift from previous campaign went on the large groups were given funding. we created a shared strategy that included ideas and voices from the front line at the heart of the message. we never shied away from looking powerful politicians in the eye including president obama and telling them they had a choice. at the corner of the fight was a strong belief in the local pipeline fighters and protecto protectors. since they had the most to lose
and we won what was truly a david versus goliath battle. in the next pages of the chapter, i go on to describe how he created the fight here in nebraska and how the national environmental groups created the fight also because it was only a small group of environmental leaders that wanted to take on keystone through the data rooms telling the kind of group that should take on the pipeline in the country saying this is a failed strategy that would go nowhere. so i was starting to get phone calls from environmental groups. at the same time i got a call from the national wildlife federation. they were askin asking if i head
heard about a pipeline that would cross over the largest grassland that has to sandhills into the aquifer the main water supply for the agricultural state. people knew my last name and from the last few years traveling the state of nonstop initially with mtv and changed that work. one of the early e-mails was from randy thompson. he is a cattlemen and when he walks into the room you notice him. he knows just about everyone since he ran for years and he became in the early years with our stand with randy campaign. he described his parents who worked for years to save enough money to buy the land was now being threatened by the pipeli
pipeline. when he was a republican when the fight started in 2008, and he is now an independent and uses words like arrogant and son of a bitch to describe president trump. [applause] randy wants politicians to care about and work for the people, not for big corporations and no, randy is not unique. he's like many rural americans. you kind of calm down the description of trump. [laughter] at the time i wrote this e-mail, i had no idea who she was.
trans canada had been on me for at least a year coming here and a half and they were getting really pushy. i tried contacting elected officials in the government sent me back a pamphlet. i could see i was in trouble in iran on who nebraska to fight on the internet. i had no idea who i was as this e-mail to jane. it says my name is randy thompson and i'm from nebraska. i am seeking information concerning the proposed pipeline. our family owns property in barry county that would be affected by the proposed keystone pipeline. i've been a vocal opponent of the project and have now been threatened with property condemnation if we do not accept the proposal offered by
transcanada. we received a letter this week to accept the offer under the power of eminent domain. i find it curious they can invoke the power of eminent domain when they don't even have a permit for the project yet. do you or any of your contacts know. any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. [laughter] i had to check out the meetings and see if there was anything out there to fight the pipeline.
its issues related to climate change as i had come to known. people often do not reach out for help come comes to the calld e-mails i was receiving i already had a sense that something was happening i just had no idea at the time that this would be a journey more like a roller coaster that would transform how they issue campaigns and how the democratic party should be organizing the candidates campaigns. the rest of the chapter goes on to describe a lot of the fight also very clear lessons from the fight on how we as a democratic party should be organizing the obvious one being we need to be funding the groups and people on thhad people onthe ground in th.
what happened at standing rock on the cutter access pipeline with travel so they don't have to consult with the tribal government. the company can simply hold informal meetings with the tri tribe, make a few big promises and move on with their project. the tribes have no legal ability to stop a project that is not directly on their land. with this move by the family, transcanada has a legal obligation to engage informal consultation with the nation about crossing tribal land. negotiations like this for something that the company had carefully avoided during the ten years trying to complete the keystone pipeline. on the very day of the legal documents were signed aiding the land back, we were harvesting the latest crop of the sick record. i was walking in the field with chairman of the tribe of nebraska when he turned to me and said -- you have a longer
section and a second you can read that. [laughter] everybody carries the dna of our ancestors. [laughter] his words stuck with me because the way he sees the land is no different that art and helen view it, it is everything to them, it carries the ancestors, the legacies in their entire sense of place. as her team gathered in the field chairman wright spoke of the history that we are now a part of. >> this is event is bringing people together again by a lien that was once hours, when we talk about the issues within eminent domain it is painfully aware what can happen how the government can make up its mind
to erase the nation in the people today offers us another opportunity to remember ancestors who sacrificed all they knew. another opportunity to remember again the relatives and loved ones who died will be removed from the house. we sold with the state in their honor in their memory and we must never forget where we come from. we must never forget the sacrifices that have been made by so many among us, sacrifices that allowed us to be here today. we stand here now with relatives and friends who shown so much dedication, work and perseverance to protect their land. it is this community of people that will continue to bring us together and continue to protect the process resource. >> we did bring sees of resistance, if you want a little seed bundle we have those for you to take. the work that we did with the ponca nation, farmers and ranchers and liberal environmentalists all from the coast in the law firm here in
nebraska, that is the model of how the democratic party should be organizing. we need all shades of blue at the democratic table. we need rural people in the room when were talking about big policies like the green new deal and i have a long chapter in the book about the green new deal and climate change. because i will tell you senator john who i interviewed in this book, i call him the tractor carcass of one, he's only working former in the u.s. senate which is mind-boggling. but if he was in the room with representative aoc and merkley when they were drafting outline of the green new deal that policy would look very different. it would make it clear that big agriculture is different than small family farmer and ranchers. and that we cannot place the blame on yet again the blame on the shoulders of family for big oils in the state, and we cannot
place the blame on families for big agricultural specific. families, farmers and ranchers are on the frontline of climate change. whether the land being flooded or whether they're providing the solutions like planting, cover crops and rainwater sensors and microgrids and making sure the combining noto with regenerative agricultural practices. so my message to the democratic party is stop flying over us. get back to where our roots are at the democratic party and the roots of the democratic party believe in fundamental policy and values. it believes that we all do better when we all do better. it believes that we are the party that stands up to be corporations and fights for the little guy. and if we go to our small town and trust me, there are plenty of conversations and i'll tell one brief one and then we'll
open it up for questions that happen in our community and a detail the story in the book. i went to a small town in nebraska, they were fighting the costco to complete, and that night they were going to have a vote on the zoning and whether or not they would approve costco to come in and build a huge plant in order process up to 2 million, i am not making that up, 2 million chickens, not a year, not a month but a week, they want to process 2 million chickens a week. if you know anything about agriculture if you know you if you can process 2 million chickens and raise 2 million chickens and a small area is not good for the soil, land, water or the farmers who have to grow them. so we had a meeting in one farmer said follow me in your minivan, follow the pickup truck in the lead you into town. okay, so as i'm driving i see his bumper stickers, one is from the tea party talking about
don't tread on me or something like that and the other said if guns pull peopl kill people pind misspell test. >> i got out of my car and he walks over and put his arms around me and says what did you think about my bumper stickers. [laughter] now he knows i'm a progressive democrat that is not a secret in the state of nebrask nebraska. [laughter] i said were probably neck when a young gun reform but i don't see any republican standing here with you. and what we do agree is to protect your property rights and protector water. and they won that night, they beat back costco and unfortunately it went to the town next door in fremont and the processing plant used
imminent domain to take one farmer's land and i can only imagine the damage that will happen, the worker is not unionized, the list is long and ted write about this tremendously, not only in his book but several articles about the problem and they talk a lot about how we have a responsibility to give back responsible agriculture, and there are clear things that the democratic party can do like not only stand up for family farmers when you need one in your ads because they're all good and adds like randy is very handsome but to pass the policies like country labeling, when you going to the grocery store as a mom, dad, grandparent, you can choose usa raised beef and processed versus beef processed in three different places which god knows
who knows without me is coming from, we have a responsibility to do a right for ranchers and farmers in our small rural towns and i'm completely confident that not only will we make sure the keystone never touches her soil, i'm confident we can turn around the democratic party so with that we will open it up for questions. [applause] >> hi susan and bill. >> i just heard on the news or the internet recently that one of the guys that talks about investing says petroleum is a new tobacco. do not invest in petroleum, you will lose money, it's a feeling by industry. >> that is true.
even transcanada has not published even though the blustering around saying though billed any day and that kind of thing but they have never issued a final investment decision because they know this is a sunk investment. i'm confident the only reason why transcanada is pretending they're moving forward and going to build is so they build the case to go to nafta and sue america for $8 billion which they can do under the awful nafta rules. so it's very clear oil is on the decline in with the democratic party here's what we can do, we cannot going to town like west virginia and pennsylvania and ohio and wyoming and other places where folks for generations have lived and worked in oil rigs and oilfields and coal mines and tell them their jobs were meaningless or their jobs were killing
americans. they have a sense of love and tradition for their work just as much as randy and chairman wright have for their work as well. what we need to do, we cannot just say a simple solution which i hear sometimes that we need a transition and those folks can be retrained to put solar on rooftops. coal workers make $75 an hour and they have really good pension and health benefits. and solar and wind jobs are not unionized yet. so if we are serious about making this transition, that means coal and oil workers have to be the same table the environmentalists and farmers and ranchers are at so rebuilding the new clean energy grid and infra structure that helps people and lifts people up rather than big corporations doing 200 windmills in your backyard and you have no say. that's how we do that.
>> congratulations on your new book, i look forward to reading it. my question, are great candidates to run for office, two great running, the running against the right-wing media as well, how do we counteract the right wing media. the free publicity on a regular basis, how do we counteract that. >> i want to give a shout out to jane, she ran for senate against deb fischer and one of the most qualified candidates we've had in the democratic party should have one, if the democratic party was invested $10 million in her race she would have one. but now were spending hundreds of millions of dollars trying to be bactrim and trying to turn the narrative around at the impeachment hearing. so i took about investment in state parties and good candidates like jane in the book. there is no question that fox news is a major problem.
and that even five years ago they were not ever fair, the headline was ridiculous to begin with. but they had moderate voices on their and i am probably in the minority right now when i say democrats should go on fox moran more and call them out when they are misstating fax and give our message. because if i would've organized democrats and climate advocates on keystone we would have lost. president obama would have traded keystone xl for some of the climate policy and they would not have had to do with the faces of chairman wright and randy and the other family farmers and ranchers that we organize. i think that we have to confront fox, i don't think the answer is creating a democratic radio show, which i often here because we have been there, done that tried that, but i think we have
to go where people are getting their news and that means going on fox. we will take two more questions. >> i would like to know how will you reach out to the people who are so invested and republican parties that their close minded and hesitant once they hear that there democratic or independent and they feel like they have already been accosted for their beliefs. >> i'll give my answer but i would love to hear randy or chairman wright respond to this who do with a lot of republicans and independents as well. one, as i wrote this book, i certainly do not have all the answers and were not winning statewide red in nebraska.
we have to apply these lessons in nebraska as well as all across the state. i think there are a couple of things, there's voters we will never reach. 30% of the republican base will never vote for a democrat, disliked 30% of the democratic base will never vote for republican. but it's those folks that i talk to on a regular basis, i was having coffee in hastings the other day, the former superintendent republican came up and said i am sick to my stomach of how the republican party has turned against our values. and we have to reach out to the world, randy maybe would've never thought about being a democrat or an independent unless he was engaged in this fight and saw other people standing with him. we cannot just assume because trump is a jerk and lies over 50000 times and uses for an
interest to metal and our government but that will be enough to convince people. we have to show up and stand with them when they are hurting. and that means when nebraska experienced the floods, every single democratic candidate should have been in nebraska. not a single one showed up. so that's a perfect opportunity for us to say people are hurting and as the democratic party we are going to show up. and i don't prescribe that i think we need to hide speaker flow seat a representative aoc or the far left leaders that the republican party demonizes. no i want the more in nebraska, i want people to see they are fighting for us and that they do not have devil horns and a tail, that they really do care about people, that's what i would say. >> center running for governor.
[laughter] [laughter] i was a full-blooded republican for 45 years imminent parents are all republicans but i never really was into politics. i was too busy making a living. i was assuming fox news until my youngest son said you have to quit. [laughter] it made me mad at the time i watch whatever i damn place.
but now i see how right they really were. i switched totally because i saw what the republicans promised and what they did for me and it was a total opposite. there is supposed to be the one to protect property rights in all of this. but then the pipeline comes along and they don't want anything to do with us. that flipped me in a hurry. but i do believe if you can find some farmers and ranchers and this is difficult, if you can find some that are open-minded you can convince them. they're not all close minded but sometimes they just have to see what the alternative is.
>> we don't have to get 60% of the voters in rural nebraska to win statewide, we need 40% and that's how we used to win statewide if we had 40% of the voters in rural and the urban centers in the bigger rural towns we were getting 50 - 55%. that's how senator nelson one, that's above carry one and all the democrats have one statewide. and when you ignore rural towns, when i first became chair i went to a small town and they said you the first democratic leader that we've seen in 30 years. and i said like the presidential candidate for the u.s. senate and they said no, any democratic leader from the party or anywhere. so we have a lot of rebuilding to show and prove to people to earn their trust back that we have their backs. >> we will take one more. gun reform activist.
if you don't subscribe to -- [applause] i wanted to ask, we know in nebraska we beat the keystone pipeline and stop charter schools and beat the nra but i think people feel hopeless in this political time even though there's a lot of evidence to show and a lot to keep fighting for and a lot more in the future. do you have advice for everyone in the room, how do we collectively bring hope back to people who are losing it right now. >> such a good question on how we bring hope back when were bombarded every single day with all of the negative messages happening in washington, d.c. and we have led in our state and be back to an array and stop order medicaid, and past, we
have wins. here's what i do, it's easy to get depressed and want to stay home. if i get out there and do something, for some people that could be writing 50 postcards to voters, the nebraska democratic party can help that as well. you can sign up to be a blog captain, we give you full 50 voters in your neighborhood and you are responsible for talking to the 50 voters three times and the next year end we give you the materials out the door. you can get involved in a book club or something so you are sharing more positive experiences with one another and mary talked about this, that human interaction is what brings hope and when you plant the corn or write postcards or knocking on your fellow nebraskans door, that gives you hope and it makes
you not feel so alone. a young person just sent me a text saying i just started to read your book and i want to say you are showing nebraska that it is possible. and now i do not feel alone and we have to keep telling our stories and i tell very personal stories, don't read 250 pages but i tell a story on how i had an abortion and i was also a single mom on food stamps. how i almost lost my life to an eating disorder and how activism gave me the ability and the power to fight back. so i think we have to tell our stories more, connect and always do actions. i will disclose by something funny in the back of the book, i do a little appendix, it is something you should know when you visit rural america and i
will read two of them because there is like 20 tips and every reporter in iowa should have read this. i feel like i should send this to the reporters or do an op-ed if your reporter please do this. gps may not work in rural communities so you have to ask directions but be prepared to listen. because directions will be something like this. turn right on the oil road, go east 3 miles, turn north by the red barn and watch out for dear, you have to watch out for deer. but also in oil road is how old-timers described a paved road. i once looked for a street sign that said oil road. [laughter] i was lost for an hour until the rancher came and found me and he was laughing.
branding is not an exercise for a communication plan. ranch families still get together and help each other brand the calves and give them shots. animal cruelty, no i promise you, the calf is done for maybe a minute and they get right back up and run straight to their mama and it's all okay, it is not harsh, it's how we check the cattle. the food is always amazing but do not fall for the oysters trick. [laughter] unless you want to try fresh or breaded old balls, rocky mount oysters are breaded testicles not a midwest twist on oysters rockefeller. in calf fries are the same thing just smaller. [applause] thank you for being here.
thank you chairman right for standing with us, thank you randy for standing with us, thank you everybody, get out there and do something. they always told us there is work to be done and there is work to be done so let's get out there and doin do it. [applause] >> we are going to get jane situated so she could get comfortable and sign your books and i want you to get comfortable and will pull up some chairs. that was wonderful. thank you again. [applause] >> it's presidents' day and that means an extra day of booktv tomorrow you will hear from for former secretary of state on u.s. and china relations. world magazine editor in chief, talks about his latest book reforming journalism. anna shares her experiences
working in silicon valley. and you'll see our recent coverage of the rancho mirage writers festival. check your tv guide or visible booktv.org for more information. >> national constitution senator president sought down with ruth bader ginsburg to discuss the many conversations they have had over the years, here's a portion of the program. >> the advice that your mother gives you in this letter is the advice that you often repeat and you told it to me for conversations and i asked you how you are able to follow it in the advice and says and so important to get the exact words, and she says being dependent, prepare for difficult
[inaudible] >> i have to tell you, when we talked about that advice i said this is the advice of a tradition but it's so hard and practice and you said yes, how do you actually do it and you said if i don't do it i'll lose precious time. but i find myself everyday when i'm going to lose my temper, i think what ruth justice kim berg wouland practices everyday and y to restrain myself and find's serenity prayer we know you go to the gym to work out, how do
>> i practice that advice as well. >> to watch the rest of this conversation visit our website booktv.org and search for jeffrey rosen org ruth bader ginsburg defined this program and all the other appearances. [inaudible conversations] >> good evening, how is everyone doing. i am great too. i work with the public program at the library. . . .
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