tv Henry Kissinger Discusses Diplomacy with China CSPAN May 4, 2021 6:21pm-6:58pm EDT
discussion now on efforts to deal with china. we'll hear from former secretary of state henry kissinger and former senator joe lieberman on u.s. diplomacy and china's plan to be a world power. the mccain institute hosted this half-hour is that. event. >> it's my honor to pose this discussion with dr. henry kissinger and is a member of the board we welcome henry and thanking him for agreeing to
participate in this virtual 2021 for him. henry and i agree to capture the spirit of the sedona forum that neither of us would wear a tie for this hearing so this is as close as we can get. i want to say first how important henry kissinger was to john mccain. a great source of counsel for foreign-policy and a loyal friend in every way. i was privileged on a couple of occasions to be together with henry kissinger and john mccain. one memorable trip overnight across the atlantic to go to the u.n. security conference in which we spoke on many topics
and there was a way in which john and i were controlled by just hearing henry's stories which were remarkable and the privileges he had to be involved in the making of american foreign policy. every story is in the were markedly american story emigrated to this country with with his family escaping germany serving in the u.s. military achieving great success becoming a member of the faculty in becoming involved in policy security adviser under president nixon and president ford but not just the title but a remarkable series of accomplishments that in my opinion made him the most successful diplomat and statements -- statesman of our
age and if you think about it he paved the way for the détente with the soviet union. he opened discussions with china in 1971 with zhou en-lai and that led to his leadership in the summit between president nixon and chairman mao and opened up relations with china later in 1979. he successfully concluded the paris peace conference ending the vietnam war and has continued to be a person has who has written extensively so on behalf of senator mccain and his entire family thank you for being with us. the topic of this year's form is
defending democracy and if i may and they want us to focus on the pivotal relationship with the u.s. and china so maybe i will start with an obvious open-ended question. you were really one of the first that began the modern area -- era of relations with the u.s. and china and it still is even more important the bilateral relationship to end he managed to avoid the conflict to our mutual benefit and i wonder if you would reflect a bit on the historic opening discussions you had which led to the beginning of the u.s. china relationship and compared to where we are now and what her role is now.
>> it's good to talk about senator mccain. he was a prisoner in vietnam and he had been a prisoner for many years. i was in hanoi and the vietnamese said to me you can take commander mccain home with you on your plane. as a sign of our goodwill. i'd didn't think it was the sign of goodwill that the commander would come home with me on the presidential plane so in any
one of the more challenging aspects goes right to the heart of the theme for the sedona conference which is the pending democracy. and really, most month secretary lincoln met in anchorage. the differences came right to the surface. china was threatening the rules space order that maintains global stability. and yang said the u.s. has to quote stop advancing its democracy and the rest the world. coursing can capitol hill in the biden administration there is a lot of concern about chinese treatment of the uighurs. about its dominance of hong
kong. and yet we all know there is a desire to figure out how to manage our relationship with china in a way that is mutually beneficial and is not break open military conflict. so how do we bring all that together? how do we remain in any way true to our values? with the experience of freedom and human rights and still managed to -- well unsuccessful order the rising china. >> my views in terms of how it began. [inaudible]
the security advisor to president nixon, united states it had no diplomatic contact with china, or any contact with china for 35 years. [inaudible] with people taking place in china, but at the same time with the united states and soviet union. was the only other country that nuclear. [inaudible] it was developing its
military -- and engaging in that and other key issues. for the entire period of the cold war. additional talent we had was on board nixon administration with five and a thousand american troops located to america geographically more politically historically. but in maricopa the domestic was upset with the vietnam war.
national values how much was at stake and matters in this relationship does not begin to open conflicts. and continue to talk to the chinese. because right at the middle of the discussions about china with the clinton administration in which the president and the administration include china into the mobile economy. but for mutual economic benefit, but also as you said henry with the hope it would create a more democratic china. so the fact it is not create a more economic china is today led some people to want to break away from the economic relationship. but i'm sure you agree the economic relationship that the integration of china is not only good for the chinese but
it's also been very beneficial of us. not lead to as much democracy as we hoped it would within china should not lead us to walk away is constant dialogue. want to ask you a question that is more strategic than democracy. in the early 70s of opening relationships in china. complex in the tension between the soviet union and china to form the alliance but also to maintain a pretty decent u.s./soviet. today it appears in russia and
dialogue with china, but to try to restart in an honest way a dialogue that resignations were quite a while from russia. and it is in our interest to not have them unite each other and be against us. they go on for hours. it is a blessing willing to share the lessons of your extraordinary life. you're just a source of great wisdom for a lot of us. i cannot thank you enough. again on the behalf of the memory of john mccain and cindy mccain especially thank you's for all of you have brought to this discussion today. i pray god will bless you and
your family with only good things for a lot more years to come. >> thank you. >> be well, see you soon freights brick this week we are featuring book tv showcasing what is available every weekend on cspan2. tonight illinois democratic senator tammy duckworth speaks about her life and career in the military and in the u.s. senate. the informer republican speaker of the house john bana reflects on his five years as speaker thomas 24 year career in the house of representatives and the future of the republican party. followed by former democratic senator carl 11 from michigan who looks back on his 36 year career including his time of the armed service committee. watch book tv tonight at eight eastern on cspan2.
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