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began reporting on the secret service for the "washington post" in 2012. in the prologue of her new book, zero fail she writes she started her coverage the scandal in which agents brought prostitutes to their hotel rooms while making arrangements for president obama to visit columbia. we talked with ms. clinic about her in-depth look and her new book subtitled the rise and fall of the secret service. >> on this episode book notes plus lucent c-span.org/podcast or wherever you get your podcast. >> weekends on c-span2. every saturday you will find events on people for nations past every -- on sunday book tv brings the latest nonfiction books and authors. it's television for serious readers.
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discover, explore, weekends on cspan2. >> good evening. i'm kevin butterfield executive director the washington library george washington mount vernon and i'm coming to you from that library for an exciting forward even book talk with patrick o'donnell. i want to thank the ford motor company for sponsor not just this talk but many, many talks over the years. a great series we have authors come and talk about their works pretty just not get any newer than this for this is the book release, a most exciting book. i do want to mention one upcoming programo just two nights every third michelle smith lecture, richard bernstein rb bernstein a new book the education of john adams. tickets are still available for this exciting event. please consider joining us on wednesday night. tonight's exciting program of
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the official book launch is patrickwi o'donnell's the indispensable with the subtitle of the diverse soldier marines are shaped the country, formed the navy and rode washington across the delaware. official release by atlantic monthly press today. to people who submitted questions for this event. got some exciting questions lined up. please also comment during tonight's talk and questions let us know what you want to note from patrick. we can assess questions here tonight's. this is a great book. i cannot put it down over the last week. just today in the wall street journal, they called it a novel like account of the story you're about to hear about from patrick. fact-based writing move very, very quickly. learn more about gunpowder than you think you might. this exciting story and allots hear from this great account of the indispensable's.
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to tell you a little bit more about patrick o'donnell he'll not toy these him self. critically acclaimed military historian and expert on elite units at the second book on the revolutionary war. the first one washington's immortal the untold story of the elite regiment change got him down the path. to work on this book about to about. you also receive an award for his book beyond valor which is the second world war the 12th book, exciting work done across the generations. american soldiers in combat in iraq praise provided historical consulting work foroj projects like dozens of documentaries different aspects of military history. most important of all applicable artist suggested working on this book here at mount vernon is a fellow here
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at the libra e put them excited to welcome you to this talk and introduce you to patrick o'donnell. >> thank you so much kevin for that introduction. it is really good to come home. i literally rebuilt the regiment from the ground up using their pension files, diary, et cetera she re-creates this regimented story which is really, truly extraordinary. every book that i've ever written has been a journey per each one of these books has found me and one way or another, this is no exception. but before embark upon a book i asked the very basic questions, who cares? why does it matter? literally this libra, this
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country would not be here had it not been for these individuals that i wrote about. men and women in the indispensable's. they shape their country, they formed the navy, and they saved washington's army on numerous occasions. which i am going to talk about tonight. the book is also a window into current events in many ways. it's about a virus that divides americans politically, canceld culture, it's about mrs. information. there's a lot of things in this book that will resonate with people. let me sort of take you back right now until one of the most crucial periods in the american revolution. the battle of brooklyn had just been waged in america had lost badly burned washington's army was defeated, the marylanders i wrote a book called washington's immortal buzz our history with a
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desperate action washington's army was able to retreat into fortification brooklyn heights. the british army which had surrounded the american army there was about to come up the east river and also see lines were creeping forward. it was a perilousrw time. it's where all could be lost. washington had a decision to make, was he going to retreat or fight? washington wisely decided to retreat. this is a time when all could lost. the entire army could be surrounded and destroyed. everything really rested upon the shoulders of the men in the book i've written about. washington decided to retreat. only take you back in time to
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august 29, august 30 there been a massive nor'easter that he pelted both armies the siege linesman creeping forward into brooklyn heights. in the army was closer and closer to annihilating the american army. washington decides to escape the gather all the boats that are in manhattan and man those boats. the east river at the time was swirling, the wind was not cooperatingg. sends an enslaved individual within the household. this individual, wonders up on
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some soldiers who speak german. not arsenic was trying to say unfortunately. it is not even know it until a couple hours or the evacuation of pull off one ofer the greatest demand the boats as they manned the boats the wind is not cooperates. the tides areth horrendous. but there is something very special about these men. they worked together for years at the grand banks. fishing the grand banks the mos treacherous waters of the world. what makes them unique as they are arguably the first diverse regiment in the united states army. here it is african-american, native americans, white americans, hispanic americans are all working together. it's a situation where race did not matter and life and
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death situations were literally the weather could kill people. and to rely upon one another per day had to rely upon one another that night. to pull off one of the greatest retreats and history of the road across the river, tides were not working the wind was not working the entire evacuation was about to be calledd off. but the person that was indelivering the messing to washington could not findd washington that night. they still went with them and push them crossbreed against all odds they conducted the retreat. at that time the wind changed in favor of americans. and glover's men were able to transport the or me across the t east river. in one case almost a dozen times against all odds.
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as don was coming, a miraculous fog appeared. and continue to screen the movements of the army as it waslo crossing. and john glover and the men from massachusetts delivered the army safely. nearly 10,000 men were delivered to safety. this is one reason that makes them indispensable. they saved the army, one of many situations. and literally two weeks later the british land again. it is the marble editors who make a stand will the rest retreat. it tarries the british are attacking. he and hisin horse are frozen practically in time. some had to literally come and bring him out of the battle is the british are advancing towards him literally hundreds
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of yards away. makes a sand as the army melts away. the army melts away they make a desperate rearguard stand. and they are able to reform. and there is a small victory. it's the marble headers that are involved, really interesting operations during this time. were there against the british lines. the marble headers in many ways our precursor to special today.ons units we know they are doingao things that are really special and extraordinary. the length fire ships which take out nearly of british and cattle ships. they also form what isso known as the guard. the commander-in-chief guard or the lifeguard. the lifeguard is an extraordinary unit. as a precursor in many ways the secret. service.
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it's washington's hand picked men that guard him and it is not a small group of men. mushrooms of the 200 men. these men are involved in a operations, battles, they also guard his excellencies papers. it's a marble header that leaves this unit, shape sick, it's quite an extraordinary story in and of itself. but not only do they save and protect the unit but there is a little bit ofin mystery involved. prior to the battle of brooklyn there are several members of the guard that have leanings towards british loyalties if you will. they are lured into a plot to assassinate washington. i'm not on relatively unknown
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story is told as well for they uncover the plot luckily in the guard actually protects washington and they take out their own. the first americans toer be executed as a member of the guard. that is a fascinating story. as the book moves forward it's the indispensable that our washington's elite force and many of the battles in new yorkbr. the british once again land up in the northern part of manhattan at a place called point. it's here the marble headers along with assortment of other units, basically repel an amphibious invasion from the
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greatest navy in the world at the time, the royal navy which is an extraordinary feat in and of itself. they land a little further up the coast at pelham bay or pelham's points. it's here the brigade which includes the regiment was once again save the army. they fight initially close to the landing appointment. they fell back at it as a collapsible defense. it's an emerging part of the american way of war. it is unique and ever-changing. it is still ever-changing to this day. we were not using conventional tactics of u.s. armies. we are falling back and in this case they were falling back behind stone walls and allowing the british to advance still taking down
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many, many of their numbers. it is here they release a washington's army once again. and you know, from this point they are captured, nearly 3000 americans including some marble headers that were captured early on their basically wounded but recovering for washington are captured by the british. so much of this book consists n of application files that are in many ways the unknown oral histories of the american revolution. if you are lucky enough to survive the american revolution you can apply for pension application in 1820.
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you down to the local courthouse and swear under oathu that you saw and did. here are some of the great oral history accounts of what happened during the war. it is in their own words. the indispensable's is still with these unknown stories from unknown americans. it is a boots on the ground and of brothers. very much a cinematic telling of the war and also has a thousand endnotes. all of it, all of the words in the book from the americans are true statements from their accounts. not something i madefr up. but within these accounts, within this story is what happened, what they saw, what
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they did, it's compelling to many cases. and as we enter november and december, this is the darkest -- some o of the darkest days of america. things are politically collapsing paid the military victories of the british army have obtained from brooklyn, from fort washington from the other victories has caused a swing within the united states where people are abandoning the cause. in new jersey people are signing oath of allegiance to the crown. congressman, people signed the declaration of independence are now jumping sides. things are changing. the enlistments within the regiment are all set to expire. and they are expiring. washington's army is literally melting away within his eye. he decides he must do
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something. it's a very desperate situation and he decides to attack the post in trenton. it is here the marble headers have their finest hour. it is a situation where hieverything changes. everything is on the line everything is about to collapse and it is on the shoulders of the marble headers once again. washington has an elaboratepl plan. he often has an elaborate plan. there are four prongs that are going to attack trenton, the marble headers are basically taking the army across the delaware river on the main prong. the other three prongs are also going forward. all of them fail except the marble headers but only the marble headers have the skill
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to cross the delaware river which is filled with iced which is fast flowing breed there is a nor'easter that night. nothing is going according to. plan. all of the other the marble headers are army to get the army across intact. at least one portion the other three fail. and that night they are behind schedule. they are about 12 miles above trenton and they have to march through sleet and snow into trenton. much of the army at this time is barefoot. they are tracks filled with blood in the snow. but the push forward the model headers aren't leading part of the elements, they push down towards the southern portion of trenton.
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this is a very, very important points. without orders they attack a key bridge. notice the bridge. they capture the bridge, along with the guards. and then they set up a series of cannons on the high ground. meanwhile the rest of washington's army is attacking, most 18th century engagements of both armies or both sides battle it out and then when one side is being, is not doing well they retreats. there was no area of retreat thanks to john glover in the indispensable's. they capture the bridge, they steal the retreat and they seal the defeat entire regiment, which change the coursech of history. from there, the army sales of the delaware and
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it is unfortunately a little worse. they trip over because the menan had captured the room supply. it was a drunken crew and several men fell over. buts they captured most of the regiment they captured a large stand of arms, a cannon, and then roughly a week later the second battle of trenton where washington does notne necessarily want to fight but his hand is sort of forced by a militia group, philadelphia associates which go over a little bit early and washington decides to reinforce and they hold a key bridge against all odds. half of the marblehead regiment may be less or little
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more it's hard to tell, stays with washington. the other group is exhausted in the >> to marblehead. but that groupma that stays, they fight at the battle of princeton, and they change the course of history. the ten crucial days that changed the course of history in these three battles. it is the marble headers there in the four and make a difference. but the story does not end there. and what i mean by that is it's a marblehead or once again saves thece army. i will get to that story in a minute. but first i want to go through several of the characters of the book so that you get a feel for what this book is about. the first character if you will or individual i like to rahighlight is john glover. he is the central character of the indispensable's. john glover is a self-made man.
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he fights her in the french and indian war, he is a cobbler. he is also a bartender. with the money he makes from bartending and cobbling shoes he is able to buy a ship. and then he is able to buy more ships. he built a fleet of ships and becomes a very wealthy man within marblehead itself through trading. michael heads fortunes are made on fish, caught is the commodity and marblehead. it is the third of the economy in massachusetts in 1774. they fish the grand banks in the grand banks are some a most treacherous waters in the time.at the it's's icy it's thousands of miles away from boston but they sail up there and they fish, they gather fish.
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it is a life-and-death situation many times against these giant waves against the storms they arebu working together and marblehead is ars diverse community. and as native americans and has hispanic americans, these individuals are ahead of their time in many ways. it is a progressive town for its time. many of the men in the indispensable'sin are ardent abolitionists. they are at the forefront of american civil rights before there were civil rights. and they were ardently pushing for the abolition of slavery including john glover. kiat our these crews that are diverse, that are working together. but it is also a situation where the crown is interfering with their lives. they interfere with their lives constantly.
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the crews are impressed by the british navy. literally, alongside a ship, board the ship, and then say you ared going to be a member of the royal navy. you are effectively a slave for life. and that individual is taken aboard a royal navy ship and made a member of the royal navy for life. there's no freeing unless they escape and some did. this is a factor that causes a break from great britain. it is one of the factors. excessive regulation, enterprises were regulated by the crown 3000 miles away. and 1775 something called the fisheries act would be established where the crown would literally not allow the marble headers to fish the grand banks. effectively putting out of
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work thek entire town, which caused a great deal of resentment. their judges were taken away from them and installed with royal officials. the government was changed. all of these issues meant a political change within the colonies, withinrb marblehead. marblehead would become the spearhead alongg with the boston of the revolution. it also beld an idea of the revolution. and it was the marble headers that would play aal critical role in this. but in 1773 and 74,ee the ships for marblehead also brought home at that a virus. it changed america and change the town. the town would be divided politically. the virus wasas smallpox. people within the tower being affected. but the patriots of the neck town came up with a novel plan
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to create in inoculation hospital to try to publicly deal with the virus itself. which was causing the political fissures and causing massive deaths. if you areia familiar with smallpox across pustules across the face in the back it would start people and kill you it would scar you. they would set up houses to contain the virus the inoculation hospital was set up by john glover, daniel bond and many of the other main characters in this book. the loyalists were not on board. and as the hospital started to produce results it also produced an revive some of the infection which the loyalists used to their advantage to incite the mob. dozens of men rode on boats to
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cat islands were the inoculation hospital was in place and they burned it to the ground the people inside, remarkably no one was killed. the loss of the hospital cost john glover and the other patriots in the town over 2000 pounds in damages. so they put out for the sheriff to get the man that had done that. they seized those individuals and they were brought to jail for trial. the loyalists in the town hughes the situation of the virus to incite the mob and they attacked the jail with hundreds of individuals. they broke into the doors of a gel with axes and crowbars and freed the two men. and at that point the main characters off the book, their houses are surrounded by the angry mob, which are hell bent on potentially killing them
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all. john glover came up with a very novel solution to deal the problem. his version of self-defense was to wheel a canon inside the foyer off his house. i recall finding the originalhi papers from his family i will fix them was his quota. as the mob circled the house hundreds of men ready to kill him he ordered the doors thrust open in the canon was there in the foyer facing the mob. he had a torch in his hand and he told them to disperse. and they did. he made a stand it was emblematic of how john glover would conduct himself to the rest of the war. it is here, it is john glover that's bringing in the main supplies of gun powder through their contacts with spain prior to the revolutionary war
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and as the war moves forward, john glover is involved in lexington and concorde. he is involved in many of the other battles. he also has the job of guarding general washington prior to the battle of bunker hill. it is here that john glover forges a very special relationship with the commander-in-chief. : : : , it's general washington that looks upon john glover to solve a problem for him. gunpowder is the crucial economist had plenty of guns, no gunpowder. in the british, they try to disarm us through gunpowder but it would be the context that the marble headers had brought in the crucial gunpowder but it
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would also be a novel way washington would try to capture more gunpowder by attacking british source and have. the new a ship to do that operations so he turned to john glover created navy. the navy, which is preposterous, to take basically a fishing boat john glover had which is about 74 tons somehow take on the greatest of the world, the royal navy but thatt is what they did and they attacked ship the story of the navy is extraordinary. it's the most powerful captains in american history, captain white, the red dragon that has a giant red cloak an incredible sense of humor. martindale who decides to outfit
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his gun, spent a live dish amount of money but as soon as it gets out of port, he's immediately captured by the british. martindale sells out his crew. martindale is ann amazing story, they put his crew and iron, they are oppressed in vessels and he's freed with his officers and makes his way to the main where he is in prison as well by the british navy but somehow escapes and makes his way down all the way to washington, brand tales in the process and he goes on to fight again but is lost at sea and players so many amazing stories within the navy itself from a fake attack without
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authorization first in the united states history but they also capture critical power shall have the right time the right place. another individual like to talk about doctor nathaniel bond. the resurrection missed, a body stature. doctor bond, there was a shortage of cadavers at the time and people literally, doctors would rate graveyards to smell bodies to find out the anatomy doctor bond has been extraordinary hero, he's on cap violent working on the inoculation and its here that he saves money marble headers forefront of smallpox, it's his
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expertise. doctor bond is a member of the marble trains and drills with them and participate in the battle of lexington on. reporter: according to hippocratic oath, which he follows very seriously, he treats british soldiers and hundred and comport. the patriots in the town believe he's now a loyalist and his house is surrounded and he writes an extraordinary letter which i have here in my hand where he begs for his life saying there are thousands of people will kill him at any moment, please send detail of men to bring me to a court-martial so i cant- review the truth of what happened.
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true and the facts are revealed. doctor bond is exonerated from fake crime, he didn't do anything wrong but instead of catching away and not being happy with the decision, he joined the marblehead regiment as their surgeon. doctor bond goes on a company commander and fight through the major battle of the american revolution which is extraordinary in and of itself and at the battle of trenton with about half the regiment going back to marblehead, he my have a reasonav for going back. marblehead at the time is economically devastated their wives are starting. they go back to protect their
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wives in floodplains and families doctor bond cézanne along with many other men think he should stay on washington himself asked doctor bond to inoculate the army. at the time,e, the virus was killing nearly 20%, devastated and doctor bond sets up all inoculation and manages the entire process. one historian claims washington's greatest strategic decision to inoculate the army, they are able to fight continue battle. the man that was initially labeled a loyalist died, apparently some basically
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inoculating an army. those are some of the characters in the book along with eldridge, forgottenrg founder. my favorite word is grumble, and ornery guy, he was the intellectual mainframe in many ways of the early revolution. republicanism for service to country over self and he takes abstract context and makes them reality but he also takes one of the largest trading in the colony which he and his family owned and convert them into supply lines. as i mentioned earlier, that an
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unnecessary is gunpowder. that's the early part of the war to take disarm americans and take our vital supply of gunpowder, without gunpowder no revolution could be thought but it's eerie coming up with the concept, he's one of the first in writing to talk about sort of alliance, he and others forged the alliance vein. i through this context the last 30 to 40's going on 20 or 30 years in the relationship bringing the colony. also future vice president future congressman named after me, the electoral college are part of it. the last thing i'm going to talk about quickly is the diverse
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members. in some cases, a roman or greek name, these are extraordinary individuals unsung and forgotten. the important of the marblehead regiment isn't necessarily -- the sink isth that diversity but there greatest strength was there unity and these men working together and there are incredible members of this regimen such as glover, manuel soto, would set i looked up the pension files and feesio men did but they fought through the work in the most epic great operations of the war bringing
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the regiment, bringing the army to safety multiple times. visa forgotten members of the revolution, all extraordinary and what they did and a diversity and model that we wouldn't see tragically for over 170 years but these are the men, men and women, the book covers some incredible women in this book as well that did extort many things, they were in the right place at the right time and in many cases, the sacrifice hethey made is epic. marvel head alone had over 600 widows at the end of the revolution and its back story and sacrifice and the reason why
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i wrote the indispensable's, most americans don't necessarily appreciate. our founding store is our great story and some marble headers changing that course. i'm happy to takee questions. >> this has been a great introduction to this, i'm excited for people to have a chance to read it. we have questions coming in and this question from michelle about the cohesiveness. we tend to think of modern soldiers acting as one, does that happen here andnd how were they successful? >> i think a lot of it has to do with what happened prior to the revolution.
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in many cases, many of these men were on fishing boats. with life and death decisions had to be made within seconds and the color of your skin or race is irrelevant, it was about trust and this teamwork was for years and many off them forged bonds of friendship, bonds of family withed a literally, many twere interconnected through familial ties investment. i've researched this extensively. i found a couple of examples which is unheard of for the 18th century where desertion was often right but it was those close connections with family and community that ties them
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together. i like this one as well, after this campaign, glover and marble headers returned home, what we know -- you mentioned one example but can you tell us more about the afterlife? >> it is a complicated story. after unit, maybe less than half the unit stays in washington. it's an extraordinary moment. right before the battle than washington with this great ability to bake and plead the army to stay. many step forward and serve. many of them died as a result including doctor bond.
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john glover along with other members of the marvel head return home and they form a new, glover is made general, they form a new, he's demanding a new brigade and form a new regiment for any of the men take to the sea many cases, many of these captains have become part of the continental maybe such as john and doctor in the revolutionary war. incredible s scene fighting, alo ships and they literally have o make repairs on the fly or make their way to a small cove, hardly anybody there and they
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have to drag logs out and everything else it extraordinary story of americanor ingenuity if any become private fears unlike washington but they were members of the army at sea, these are individuals that are also earning commission slightly different but they are working in the massachusettsts governme, many of them die including his son and many are never seen again. another question that's specific but i thought it's are great story. another fellow here at the library asking about the average age, what can you tell us about that, are they young, are they old? i've beenre able to take muster
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roll and it fragmentary, the average age was around 24. younger me der and men, the book captures a story of soldiers and in many cases they were drummer boys, the important part of being able to communicate on these, you needed drums to fight to relate orders and many of the younger members were musicians and they went to war with their fathers. >> on other question coming in from the recognition, a yearbook
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is a great example of how centuries later we discover and recognize, what did they receive during their lifetime? >> most of these men and women receive zero recognition and most bankrupt after the war and what you see in the file application, they were lucky enough to take it. thises was especially true for e mariners of color, extremely impoverished. glover himself is racked with ptsd, we can get that through his letters to washington where he is not able to sleep most of the time and marvel head was a source of great wealth, the
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second largest city and it reduced to a shout after the war and they are greatly impoverished in the book itself in 1777, plate 76 and marvel head, beverly is an important part, one of the companies led by captain brown, they have their base their. the women of the town take up musket and rate the food source stores in the town because they are starting. a civil war where americans are pitted against americans, impoverished, it is a different work than people have read in their history books.
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>> how did glover manage to bring together so many different people? can you talk about the effort, either thoughtful and deliberate things he needs to do to make happen or did it come out of the community? >> i think it comes out d of community. there was no effort to coerce people to serve and i think that's an important element of the book, they willingly serve and in this case, it's the poorest members of the community as well as elite members all serving together side-by-side and you've got literally like glover and eldridge jeremiah lee, jeremiah lee in particular was one of the wealthiest men in the colony, he's initially there
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colonel serving with other members of the community which are not well-off at all and they are not doing it under coercion, they are doing it because they feel itey is their duty and whai find extraordinary is the amount of sacrifice as the work progresses into they communityo is bankrupt, there's a tremendous amount of pressure to return home to get out the work but many of these men continue fees services against all odds which i find extraordinary. >> obviously we are here at great mount vernon, was the connection like between glover and washington? did they share an intimacy, do they have a candid and right
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relationship with one another? i do want to acknowledge one insiders know well. >> that relationship is anon important one and why these marble headers are there indispensable. that relationship is forged in early 1775 cambridge, a giant mansion that washington takes over at his headquarters and he is the marble headers in some ways guardedly headquarters and he's request them as time goes on because he forms an intimate relationship of trust with john glover and that unit at the time caleb who later becomes in charge of the lifeguard or commander in chief guard and
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this relationship is incredibly important.gt washington can trust these men the most crucial inflection.of the war. the american part but he places his entire trust on the shoulders of the marvel head men. later a trend for john glover washington asked glover, can you bring us across the river? the story about that, my boys have got it and they had it. he knew he have that confidence, glover had the confidence his men in washington had confidence in the marvel headers. as i said earlier, if washington was the indispensable man of the revolution, marvel headers with the indispensable men of the
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onrevolution. >> margo has a great question about the training, what is in the ability of this wonderful regiment, was itif fishing, the experience they had coming in before the war broke out? how do they effectively be the regiment that they became? >> the men had undergone training as a militia unit where they would train in the ground in and around marvel head and it was not necessarily taken seriously because they would go right to the tavernbe "afterwar" and drink punch after the training but it was these men as what is said arguably the greatest fighting unit ever to
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take arms in the united states, their experience prior to the war and his merchants where they had toha battle not only navy bt mother nature and some ofso the greatest sees of the time, the grand banks were unforgiving, literally every year hundreds of men would die from the sea. this bread part been that were very, very tough and also hard drinkers, to but that's another story. they were very tough individuals. >> there's another question i liked from frank who asked about the marvel headers elsewhere, we talked about the water crossing, or any of them involved in other
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campaigns including the seven campaigns? >> not directly. after the trenton campaign, glover would operate in the north primarily, there's a handful of individuals that may have effectively served in the south and other unit because they traveled that way in one way or another but for the most part they not operated in the south but the story of the marvel head men in terms of special operations like operations they conducted were they conducted raids against the britishh and they even launched fire ship against the british a couple weeks before the battle of brooklyn where several men had died or perish as a growth or ship directly into what was
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effectively the battleships and one perished in the process but it is a story of heroism. >> another question, this might be my last opportunity because we are running out of time a posted question from early on about leadership, leadership quality washington had let me ask you to expand upon this, not just washington but also other key figures including glover, is there a leadership trait you see as key to the success of this regiment? >> absolutely, this book is filled with leadership examples, individuals willing to sacrifice the lives of their fortune for their cause, their country which
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is mind-boggling to try to describe where at the end of the war many of these individuals were penniless and brokenn men physically as well as emotionally, scars of war continue with them but the leadership traits they had, they were willing to they were never asked somebody else to do something they wouldn't be do.ing to in many cases they led from the front and willing to sacrifice their lives and that leadership is essential, a lesson we can understand and learn from today. >> this is a remarkable opportunity, my camera is gone
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but i'll talk to you from here. thank you soo much, any closing words you want to say about your research project and what comes next? >> i do want to say thank you to everybody that has stayed this evening and sacrificed their time for my presentation. i want to thank the ladies of mount vernon are sponsoring me and allowing me to conduct research i think one of the finest facilities in america in one of the greatest, i've never found a better place to write a book, this is a special place and i am extremely grateful for the opportunity to be here and conduct the research and to write this book. >> the book is the indispensable's" , shaped the
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country, formed the navy and wrote across america. here to talk about this book, pick this up now, by now, we have it available at the mount vernon shop and thank you for being with us. good night. >> thank you, it was an honor. >> coming up, discussions with authors on policing in america. we begin with, boston new york police commissioner, bill and they look at police violence and social unrest with yale university professor law professor wrote a book to discuss experiences of a police officer in washington d.c. ♪♪ >> weekends on c-span2 every saturday, american history tv documents american stories and some facebook tv brings you the latest nonfiction books and authors funding for c-span2
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comes from these television companies and more including comcast. >> you think it's just a community center? no, it's way more than that. >> students promote income families can get the tools they need to be ready for anything. >> next unbuilt tv, former head of police department in boston, new york and lost angeles to be by former d.c. philadelphia police chief, charles ramsey about his book, the profession, a memoir of community, grace and art of policing in america. >> how are you? >> are to be talking with you. >> same here. i read your y book and i thoroughly enjoyed it, it was a good read so i am glad you wrote it but i do have a

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