debate and abides nominee civilian security, democracy and human rights. former diplomat heading the alliance building at senate majority leader chuck schumer one centers is going to be a busy month for late month and we can debate on it infrastructure bill amid 2022 federal budget. senate thousand 3:00 p.m. eastern with a devote to limit minority at 5:30 p.m. eastern live coverage of the senate is on c-span2. tonight, communicators -- >> republicans and democrats attacking from all angles, antitrust trust one of them but they have coalesced on and trust laws, in order to go after tech companies but they will have a different reason for doing so even though they the same resolution. for democrat to be rude in a

typical democrat animosity toward state businesses in general and shook them down to size that has this culture war against these technology companies in general where they perceive them as being biased against conservatives in a way a moderate content or culture so antitrust push is tied to the general feeling that tech companies are out to get them. >> watch the communicates with reason magazine visit ron on her recent article bipartisan antitrust crusade against big tech. tonight 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span2. >> louisville, kentucky police chief erica talks about the impact of the covered pandemic on crime. revamping from loss preventing

crime. she spoke out of event hosted by the washington post. >> hello and welcome to washington post live. i'm a criminal justice reporter for the washington post today it's my pleasure to welcome police chief erica shields as we continue our conversation about the rise in violent crimes around the country, protecting public safety and the role of policing the police chief in atlanta, thank you for joining us, chief. >> thanks for having me, i appreciate it. >> i have no easy questions for you as you would expect and we will start with being in wlouisville, crime was up and t that time for you previously worked 25 years. crime is up in virtually every fixity, shootings, homicides up. recently you noteds homicide roast knives you present last

year end they are authorized now 104 so far this year. why is this happening? for so many years of declines, we used to see it going down steadily year after year, what is the change in 2020 which continued into 2021? >> i appreciate it, i think you're asking the right question and that is, if you find the solution, who practically got where it is and when i look at louisville and atlanta and georgia first of all, in the southern states we have had lax gun laws, it lends itself for high proliferation and that already. there is this component to it, individuals already marginalized

but further set off to decide particular. if you have young people who do not have this, very often the sanctuary a tool and all of that is removed they don't have any place to be or anything to do so now we have illegal guns and idle time on the hand. we have backlash against policing which has prompted what urc as many areas, reluctant by the officers to self initiate activities and in the community or they don't want to declare,

last year it put them in a mental space where they want them to become a fair return if they are involved in these, they would be immediately in front of the house and they are aware of the funds onto treat, they may have to. what urc is one is the removal services and two, they are reactive and the only way you have crime is if you insert yourself and as a cop disrupted ahead of time.

>> let's go back to proactive policing talk about how that is crucial. last month you launched executive team engagement to get your commanders out of the community to encourage proactive policing, i think you have been out there, to. what have you learned? i think it's only been three or thfour work weeks but how has tt gone for you so far? >> previously, you have to figure out what the issue is that you are facing, there are some similarities from of the issues i have here are different than at that. here when i encountered was officers are not competent that they demand leadership, the administration and communities will support so there is a real reluctance and hesitancy step

forward and step out. on top of that so i realize lacking is true belief in the commanders and they do what they have to. no amount of messaging lookam forward would revolve that as much as the executive but we're going to go out. so we pulled details and pulling all of the divisions because the message starts to make it through different parts of the counties andf cities. we were policing with them so they see first-hand the

decision-making we are having to do. for me it was a great opportunity first-hand how many guns were onth the street so we had done the details the last two weeks, done this about five times those are just what is legally. you see it and hear it all the time seen firsthand the weaponry we were coming with is unsettling. we need to continue in that but i don't think it is coincidental happen during this almost every night we start the details and what eight days without homicide and i believe house charmed by the officers. >> let's talk about guns.

are there fixes too gun laws tht you support and could actually make a difference? >> when i strive to to take the middle road because i know i have an obligation, i would say that there is this lack of common sense and some of the laws we've seen in recent years and iran into this and atlanta, i just somebody walk around with an assault rifle in a city park or city street? i think anybody could stand up and say that's what they had in mind so i think there is definitely things that we put down our swords and say we want

all of these safeties for all of americans and politicize so i think there are backgrounds but there is also this ground of i really hope the d.o.j. here now, start looking at those cities experiencing an uptick in crimes or mass shooters and see how the judiciary is, it's imperative somebody man's transparency from the va's office, the judges because what i will tell you without fail, the violent repeat offenders my folks are arresting, the operative words repeat refuses for being in

possession of firearm interview wanted to change the narrative around police and lower the level of officer involved shootings, you have to start holding accountable be individuals who have shown they areav predisposed to committee violence and that is just a local issue.ss this is an issue where we need to see how many days a week thea are working, are they requiring plea gardens bargains? how many for first offender status? it's unfair to constituents. >> there are a couple of, he raised about 14 points there but

the key ones at the end, i think the courts were responding to this backlash on this over incarceration and then covered came they were trying to clear details so people didn't die in jail so do you feel like the courts lost their sense of balance? a lot of them have not gotten back up to one 100% speed, they've got gigantic backlogs so why do you think the courts -- you are right, criticizing the courts for being slow to respond, i don't particularly understand why repeat offenders are getting relief so where is the connect and disconnect?

is if they are responding to criminal justice reform by letting too many people out? >> what i would say is this, yes, people -- there was mass over incarceration in the 80s and 90s and i'm not going to go against that. the factors that can be mixed for l people in jail and prison for substance abuse issues, let us the population, this is why you're going to automatically seek myself and others mandatory sentencing, it is not that this issue is. however, people are willing, this has been going on long before covered. you know, way shape or form in this process.

it has provided this past year the jazz have been trying to empty out for a long time, i think when there is lack of transparency in any institution whether it government or the private sector, culture within many of these jurisdictions have become so politicized that there is not even the time or attention being paid that should be.gi ... i do think they look into wht the priors are. i think he seat negotiations with judges and jails. -- i think you see negotiations with judges and jails. there is a much larger underworld that needs to be looked at. the result has created a very unproductive system. >>