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take a page from that piece that he talks about who instructed those who came to him for a confession to be brief, be blunt and be gone. [laughter] so just three things, first law, to you and our friends on the new criterion it, we would not be having events like this were not for your support so thank you for coming. and it welcome, welcome and the reason for this event of course is the new criterion's 40th anniversary. feel free to take a magazine, the launch of victor davis hanson supported new book, "the dying citizen" and his publisher which to my great sorrow - another lesser publisher but they left out with this one, this might be victor davis

hanson's most important book and you know that he's written a string of important books and everyone thinks of "the dying citizen" f something been around forever is not true and victor has written what i thank you so going to be one of the books of the year if not one of the books of this new decade. so please feel free to take a copy and remember that's title and publisher so that you can stock up for real for your holiday shopping purchases. i also want to do some thank you's. there are several people in this room who without this for the new criterion would not exist in i want to you by naming you but i want to single out the hoover institution and the family foundation who made the evening itself help make it possible.

i think will be joining the moment by nick and kelly who will do the interview and am glad and delighted she will join us and she certainly will introduce an element of can door and glamour that is generally foreign to the halls of in the institution of his activities take place under the name of harvard that we are delighted that she could do this. into logistical things, you mentioned the book so feel free to go out and grab a copy of the book. and if you get a copy that is not signed, you can get a hold of victor davis hanson he will sign it and a second thing is i expect this interview to be entirely illuminating but it's conceivable that it will be so illuminating that there will be one or two questions that form in the minds as you are listening but please do not jump up and ask a question it but i

want you to snag my colleague isaac was here someplace where megan kelly's assistance at me he was also here someplace and they will make themselves known. there's isaac. they will greet you with a card and a pen and you can inscribe your question and megan it won't scrutinize them for pertinence and for fun. [laughter] and to do the appropriate triage. swordsman income i feel like johnny carson he was introduced, she is here someplace. [applause] yes hi and thank you very much. thank you. and of course i have my own but i'm into this new form and how are you.

and god and this is close as i'll ever get to harvard and i went to syracuse university. i do times there so i read the whole book and i adore factor as i'm sure all of you do and the sad thing is i realized about the "the dying citizen" these to the dying country rated as one of the reasons why you're alarm think and why the title. >> existed to my friends, when he asked that question i said it is not - it is still dying swiss respirator get rated. >> so you are saying there's's a chance pretty. yes and we had this conversation was sank two years ago when every political persuasion would be, i think would send border was improving, it was secure and he would say that the middle east, is much better than it is now and there was a new policy for china and maybe you can argue that the

economy while we were spending too much money, we were not grappling with the inflationary features a middle-class it in the first real wages in 12 years and critical race theory is not emboldened as it was in 2020 or whatever you call it the sword of this identity of politics. so whatever was going on, it was not as bad as it is now so that means that it can be reverse nano think quickly megan is that the republican party was so susceptible to the character oft the left and i think he was a very decent man but he was easily but how ironic that a guy that was a document billionaire saw that this nationalist worker populist party could be empathizing class ratherul than race and we would end up with mexican-american communities in the border electing republicans

in the community and local leaders in fear of open borders and is happened in my own hometown as well i think there's a real chance that there's going to be of any recalibration with the democratic that is going to be the party of the silicon valley elite,on very wealthy and subsidized foreign then you have the middle and middle middle and lower middle classes and that was inconceivable 20 years ago when i think they're going to be the majority of the country rated some cautiously optimistic pretty. >> also that is good. so you talk about the account subservient role are labor of inferior rank and then we sort of got the middle class and the millions of americans are becoming the new version thanks to debt and declining wages and so on in a new version of this essentially pretty.

>> is latin for - but you know, it does not exist in the latin vocabulary, there is no word and the same thing is true in greek and there is no word for peasant. is it we don't call people peasants, that is a cultural term, their small farmers or other names but this experience because when viable middle-class. and so, starts really to protect the property of middle-class, there's no citizenship before 2700 bc in this idea comes with employee planner trees along the path and we want to pass on to her children, it could take a long-term to grow it is an investment we want that property protected and out off that comes these auxiliary rights.

so this is what jefferson and they also the same thing, that this country was different. maybe we didn't really earn ago we have all of this landed in these homestead acts the idea that people could, and the autonomousno said own 10 acres r 40 acres or this was very classical and the idea that they were going to let the envy of the rich and that the poor maybe the dependency of t the poor and they would be part of the urban leverage or find influence with the government for it almost 20 directly aerosol wife z we need a middle-class. that it's essential to the citizenship in one of the thing, were not by history that unfortunately when you have a radical democracy of landless people and they feel that they are equal politically, then they

want to be equal in every other aspect of their life regardless of luckr or talent or misfortune or good fortune, with the independent messages they don't need to do that because they have a world unto their own and i think that we've been successful in this country to you know, the bill of rights, the veterans mall and the homeowners and fha and independent truckers and small businesses and that is the logical you know, the urban suburban evolution it of a small society 95 percent of the country, when we had the constitution that one and a half percent are that 1 we still have

this evolve of the small entrepreneurial people, the very essential so when you start to lose them i talk about the way we are losing them and one final thought and i won't monopolize it but you can and do not have confidence have children or toon buy a home and you look at the statistics on when doet people get married, 50 years ago, 23 and the average and now it is about 29 and when they have the first child, about 33 and when do they have buying home, in their late 30s or going down we were up to 62 percent were homeowners a notice down to about 59 again those are the things to make people things braided. >> when i book and, are struck by the numbers that are included. and once you just mentioned that fewer and fewer and fewer people are owning homes and three of all eight are renters and just over half of all franking

seniors have a net worth of less than 10000 nearly half of all females headed renter families, have less than $2000 net worth and so people are struggling braided and nevermind even a home pretty. >> i know the people, i don't want to sound like marxist i think the people are insensitive insensitive. ironically, and then i live on the sort of ground zero boat week have this many middle-class bullet is so strange is that i will hear stanford professor say that was really good that we have gaps going up to $5 because of carbon emissions about gas they say that. my wife and i call this gas station nearest the arena because when nixon undercut 10 cents or 20 cents, narrow lines 50 cars outside or when it gets

up to 105, which is almost every day, in the summer, droves of people go into walmart to buy things, take apart the toys for the kids may be destroyed in the store but they want the free air conditioning and yet the people on the customer say, why do we want this air conditioning while is 75 degrees there but i don't think we are aware how thin the margin is of the middle class and people fall out of it quickly to the point where they cannot afford to buy food and fuel and air conditioning. and yet you know this is the wealthiest country in the world so we have to have a middle-class and that is why i don't think any of us on a medieval society in sort of a asymmetrical california pretty california is the villain. a beating. unlike the great state of new

york. so there's a chapter in here that must be near and dear to your heart because we talked about it many times, we talk versus the citizens and you write about how the founders envisioned at this and he used to be in this country, thehe people would immigrate to the country and within a couple of generations, their native customs work almost forgotten. we almost had than a melting pot and we didn't field anyway present it immigration the fabric of thee country and the patriotism that we felt,at it ws almost thin. and you captured it started to change and call it focus on minutes ripping that apartment can you expand on that. >> there were to think, the parties each for different reasons toer say whatever the to parties we have something, watch

out and they agreed on open borders rated the right wanted cheap labor and originally was agriculture but only 20 percent of illegal aliens would use that term if i can tear, the working agriculture, the meatpacking rated. >> 's unlawful to use the term illegal and you can check me on that for the preacher. >> we had a 20 year war with my syndicator because i used illegal alien and then they said that it had to be illegal immigrant that had to be undocumented invited and had to become greater than have a derogatory so had to be fine print and because i didn't want prejudice which direction a person was going when they migrated. so the right wanted cheap labor and the mexican government wanted the 30 billion in remittance and how ironic waswat that the people would come and depend on entitlements to free

up $300 to send to mexico because mexican government did not care about people and now is 60 billion for central americans and you can argue there's a reverse frederick jackson turner safety valve or people said to be march on mexico city for payment, they said no let's mark in the united states as they like this and the left of course, very funny were because raza from lesson radix, there was none in the chicago movement until about 50 years ago that people dug up the franco novels and the movie raza and tuesdays and intently and they found out the blood and soil emulation of hitler the said that you couldn't be italian unless you look a certain way and you cannot be spanish even if you

are spaniard any minute if you are living in the peninsula, very anti-semitic so the cook of these racist terms and then the hispanic militants took that term and reinvented it for the race and finally they changed the laws and i think now but they wanted the changes in the democratic party clicked tode california they said, never going to have a party or a governor of reagan the main p wilson and even arnold schwarzenegger again now we have super majority in both legislations. the statewide offices help fight republican and the ninth circuit is still very liberal to despite control and finally, i think that they felt the model of the electoral college so i think new mexico has slipped in nevada has flipped in colorado has flipped

and they feeld the conflict georgia arizona i don't think the flip texas but they believe the cansth of their these people that wanted open borders and the only people who do not was middle-class that said, their lowering the wages and there flooding, i'm not supposed to use the word they either come there flooding the emergency rooms printed and i just talked to a fellow that i know very well and he said, when the want people to crowd in so at the my mother can't get dialysis at the dialysis clinic or why would we want to go back we were having all of these people coming in that we don't know and the fact that they are not vaccinated, and it that is often mentioned that wasd and he will give a vy eloquent of about some core root of person inbo the middle and getting vaccinated it or know nothing but we are bringing in anticipated 2 million this fiscal year that will come

across the board without vaccinations so it is almost as if the citizens punishing the noncitizen is rewarded and that transcends. so one of the weirdest experiences when you come intoo lax and we always see somebody without a passport need to come into that little booth and they dress them down and then they have to call but they're trying to make it a performance, do not do that and yet when you see these people come across, with no identification at all. ... illegal immigrants are not the cause of the pandemic. my 8-year-old is not because of the pandemic either but he hase

to have a mask on his face all day and all through will have to get the vaccine what i want them to or not. >> i think when you confuse the citizens and responsibilities dictate in accordance to this, back to fifth century a.d. where they have groups from the west part of the roman empire and i'm trying to think of all the things we used to say that was unique to the citizens. they could go in-and-out of the country at will, i think that gone now. you go back to mexico or going across the border. a citizen for entitlement, just as qualified, citizens alone can vote i think the school board in

massachusetts illegals are voting, the only thing i can think of for the citizens has a right over residents is holding office. i think that is under question now, to know if you have a group of people who are residents we don't know much about them we don't know what their customs or traditions are and we are not able to assimilate or integrate or intermarry them because they are so large in number 2 million of them, we've done most eastern europeans but was never given up. we've given a message to all of us, your own particular culture no longer necessarily be incidental you are, it will be essential. it raises the question, why are they doing this they want chaosn anarchy, they don't want to be around these people so they

project some guy from bakersfield on a forklift would be liberal but i have landscaper but i don't want my kids to go to store with their kids? it's almost medieval. >> you writing a book, currently frogs to change the historic pattern of mexican my american integration intermarriage? is not white racism, is a huge number of impoverished aliens without high school diplomas crossing the border illegally upon arrival are encouraged to emphasize their other by mostly white progressive elite. there's no more pressure to assimilate at all. tribalism is encouraged in one of the main things dividing the country. >> it is. i went to grammar school, i think there are nine of us cannot mexican-american the way they taught us, missus evans was

you have a stick shift chevy. should have a role in i repeat that, i think i have one surprise, people are appalled not amending this man, they o ae very successful now. the city council and police and principal so there was this idea, i taught 21 years mostly mexican-american and southeast asia and the children must the idea was back peter line and because they aptitude, here want to make a prep school and we would say you're going to go to graduate school. sent five 21 here's an in

history and language but the problem was either white liberals on campus and they said appropriate for culture. if you do this, do this. their kids were in private school so i think the conservative movement can really see that what can we do? you can tell they are hypocritical and elitist and i think a lot of it, they are not comfortable the people who don't look like them so it's this cute façade and it more prone in academia then the real world. >> you write about the destruction of patriotism in the go hand in hand they are dangerous. talk about the deep state and

how administratively the left more and more seizes control of regulation, never mind law, they have more administrations than they do loss, tend to run or a ridiculous ratio. the real way of changing the way we live in our kids left and right are thinking about reading the book or the regulations on college campuses and the obama signed letter, we got rid of you process for young and acute on college campuses which is being brought back by administrative roles changed our lives in a massive white and it's one of the many areas in which the last seized control seeks to avoid in some instances, the constitution, the laws in the book. >> i write in the book first book as you point out, residents and tribes are sort of pre-civilizational panic forces that diminish citizenship but

morere deliberate top down, not bottom-up i had the chapter on their evolutionary global loopp but the first of that section was this administrative state. i was thinking the other day some people who have been in the news lately lately, anthony patrick, he is the highest-paid federal employee but the cdc and infectious diseases have expanded their control to adjudicate whether you can collect rent or not. in other words rent agreement contract legal agreement medicated on whether or not is a national health disaster or i n. that is incredible. when we look to these grandees and we are worried about the origins or the nature of the private school, we found out very late it was the wuhan lab

and researchers with a military component involved in that research and it appears likely they've never found an animal infected with covid. >> they tested 80000. >> so it looks like it's gain of function and then we hear anthony fauci who is adamant that this is not gain of function has 600,000 through echo house which echo house was part of the adjudicators whether this was true or not so this was a person and executioners of this problem and you say maybe he is an exception? i was looking at general milley, i have utmost regard for the military but sadly we have a person, chairman of the joint chiefsfs, it's an advisory role, he's not chain of command and get he openly breaks he

interrupted the chain of command and altered chain of command for nuclear codes and he has to go through me. suddenly he's not advisor and he did this because the opposition leader nancy pelosi told him or said to him donald trump was crazy but then he said under oath, i don't believe he was crazy to add insult to injury, he called him his counterpart and people's liberation army to warn him there might be preemptive attack and he would run an event.re it would be as if august of 1940 the chief of naval operations was not pale and there hiding. we've been preemptive with this and i think the government wants to be preemptive but i can assure you i will warn you if we are going to attack you. that would be absurd. then violating this or something i don't understand, we as citizens make these loss the

control people not elected so we have a uniform code of military justice in world war ii. they would be on the same. the commander of one and two and three and four shall not disparage commander-in-chief and what have we heard? donald trump commander-in-chief he should bed gone sooner or later and generalal milley brout up a journalist and tells him he believes the commander-in-chief is a speaker, it's violation and get there's no consequence so he's almost an emblem of all these people when you combine the judicial executive and legislative branch into one bureaucratic way than the citizens lost control. we saw this with an absolute, i

don't know what the word but it was chilling for me, when james said underam oath we don't spy n anybody and then was caught inside i gave the least untruthful answer. none of us could do that with the irs. if you set i called the irs and said you didn't report it and i did, id gave you the least untruthful answer. there were no consequences when john brennan said we never have on the cia, fly. rhe admitted it was a lie. we never have collateral damage and operations. he admitted that was a lie. james comey, 245it times -- i can't remember. what were the simple -- i do know the foundation of the russian pollution hopes, the steel dossier. robert mueller was asked, what

is your opinion? why did you spend $40 million in 22 months? it's almost an insult pair sank to the citizen and we visited since say how do we address that? who gave them such power? where did the bureaucrat -- we are talking about the conservative support natural base of support of the military, fbi, cia people in this room, not be hhs which we could go on and on. i'm getting animated because 1983, the price of raisins collapsed. i didn'tce know the administratr committee owns your raisins whether you grew them or not so the price of raisins were below the cost of production so about ten of us were broke, present we

are not going to send our raisins to be be sound and get this letter that says you don't own your raisins, be administered of committee owns them since 1937 and i said, i called him up and said are you serious? he said yes. if you hold them back, compensate 84% of the at the reserve we are going to keep domestic prices and export them overseas so you didn't even own not. that law is still in existence and i could go into market for what we have done is create all of these people as i said, it's kitchener, there's no citizenry draft and the get bigger and bigger. the irony was donald trump, one thing about trump, and i didn't know as many people in this room probably did, he seemed to hate high interest and regulators so

he passed more deregulation than almost anybody. it was just a dent but at least it was something in the right direction. >> if you read his book, one of the things i learned was we know the left captured our major cultural institutions, from news to sports, media obviously entertainment and we could go on but the book put meat on the bones, why do you feel this with the water rising around us right now? is not just culture, you can choose not to watch the oscars, the emmys, the news, you can choose which used to taken but the feeling of the water rising is everywhere. some reasons you're talking about what we are losing control of the a penetrative, it is not a deep state conspiracy like dark arts. it's what you're talking about. globalism and how it's affecting average americans, the decrease

in wages, very little money in the bank even though they worked their whole lives. it's depending on the government even if you've tried harder whole life but if your kid goes off to college and he's in a segregated born and has no rights and is accused by somebody, all of this is captured in a way you feel powerless so it's not just about fighting woke, it's more widespread than that. >> took the life of julia, do you remember the life of julie are commercial they ran an obamacare for julie was a medical american cradle-to-grave, we went through her lifecycle, she was given prenatal as a young toddler and she got into nutrition programs and preschool and she's a single mom in the commercial a sickly

set you don't have to be independent, the state will take care of you. together counterpart for the guy was midmorning, he said drink hot chocolate and it's almost eerie because there's a passage in democracy in america we talk about tendencies of democracies to create prolonged adolescents. you better be very careful because the state will separate and offer services to you and the price will be the loss of your freedom. it's like the classical siren to lure you onto the rocks so it's not something we fight all the time, it's like they whisper to your ear, you don't need to work right now, covid has been really bad, we are going to pay you $600 a week, stay home. don't go out to l.a. and looked containers on a forklift, they will be fine. we are more worried about you.

>> victor was on my show the other day and i asked about trump and he said the greatest thing, he said trump was like chemotherapy. if you've got cancer, you need chemo and there may come in it may have an element of toxicity but you need that to fight the cancer and you don't turn it down, there's a much bigger problem at hand that needs a potentially toxic medicine. >> round of applause for. [applause] >> people did not put their n names on it. should trump run again for president? >> at a lose lose question. [laughter] i don't q know how many people have asked me and every one of you this question, how many in your dark mind you thought of this yourself.

his agenda was very good and we can see it by negative examples but couldn't we have somebody that agenda to avoid the tweeting and saying things like a girl and things like that. the next thing, he is the ideal candidate is the lowering gimmick. my answer is i don't know because i thought that about scott walker, and ideal one and yet he's a wonderful politician but when you get him on stage, he didn't do too well. there are so many knowns and unknowns, has donald trump learned from his experience? if you are elected, what he hit the ground running with the team in which hee wasn't able to do that? melissa flames him to come up with the left the importance and

how were they a comprehensive? so i don't know the answer but i don't think there's anybody on the republican side who can go to michigan or wisconsin and get people out. an appeal to that constituency and i think they are going to have to do that if they are going to win so i am neutral on that. if i were to criticize him quicklyti, we admit there were o mediocre republican candidates in georgia and there were two charismatic socialists and everybody knew they might win in georgia and trump didn't believe her or the party didn't believe it but hadpa he gone down there and not talked about the prior election, his election, whatever happened to me, forget about. go out and vote. trust in the election of a vote. who wouldn't be in the situation

or kamala harris decides whether we have electoral college. had he said i'm going to campaign like i never have in 2022 midterm, i think i've over used that term but he would have said i might not be the person to perpetuate the idea that i created to help everybody but i can do more for everybody. i think i've used this site better shut up quickly but i can be shane or gary cooper, i can be the professional or the magnificent, i can do a great service but i'm not sure i'm going to run. it would benefit him enormously you are given more choices. >> the georgia situation and the book does a nice job talking about the end after trump lost

and everything from there on emboldened the left. the january 6 think and what happened in georgia and it emboldened the left and provided me of trump and famous or infamous pending on your view and we had our strong but the trump was the only want to go on to anti- trafficking laws. he's the guy who signed it and i've had more than one victim say he saved my life. look at trump and say this is the package it came in, this is the package it came in and you look at the georgia situation where what is he doing? same package. that's who he is. >> collective amnesia. if we were to say fdr, i didn't

agree, my parents and grandparents, i don't think the new deal was the solution to the depression but if we were to say why was fdr having an affair with lucy with his daughter being the go-between donald trump never did that with his daughter. imagine if obama did you imagine the treatment trump got we have interconnected different culture and technology and an empowered left a different attitude about the media's i could say that about things about presidents whether jfk on a staffer or lbj exposing himself, bill clinton but i didn't quite get the idea we focused on these negative attributes of him and we throw out this agenda to help

trafficking in the middle class but that fundamental never trump person. their argument was he was so toxic, we've never seen anybody like him so therefore we can nullify is effective conservative method and i don't think that was a persuasion argument. >> drums problem was not that he liked, tom's problem is he tells the truth. [laughter] another question, i did not hear you use the word evil referring to the deep state. are the not instances of evil in their activities? for example, this week's directive attorney general and the fbi to investigate parents who criticize critical race theory. >> i think that's at the heart, a radical socialism, it is a

feeling resulted in to justify to achieve them. as a student, i was at uc and all was any news necessary, one faith i would say said that and what it would mean they would come in and historian because they were trying to show you is our colonialist. that is deeply embedded with the left wing mindset so they don't feel they had to be metrical so americans probably can't there's evidence of racketeering or a thought to commit mountains will board members rather than make them feel uncomfortable is the argument of equity to justify.

what you will not do not say a federal offense to harass and intimidate aggressive senator my state sonnet in arizona, somebody going to the stall and put it on the internet or as a violation of federal aviation create a confrontation. those are federal crimes like you won't say all senator should not be surrounded and bullied onto the state a of union just like he won't say jeff white can't be in an elevator. just as he might say i am maryland garlington senator schumer, who had a mob outside the supreme court and you are going to pay for this.

that was intimidation of the supreme court justices so they don't believe they have to be symmetrical because they feel their moral fiber more than we are. he passed himself off as this long-suffering liberal figure classical liberal all along what he is now.ng >> he can string it together like nobody can string it stogether. that is impressive. we have time? caone more? will emit on it up no. what gives you hope for the future? what gives you the most hope for the future? >> your hearing gives me hope, impressive. the old saying what can't go on won't go on.

when you look at the situation we are having right now, you cannotot have a nation with open borders, it won't work. when barack obama said it's not sustainable, that is indicative. sometimes people are going to be martha's vineyard. [laughter]se when you look at the homeless situation, when my daughter was not a trump supporter calls me and says that, i can't take my three children to the sparkler that park when i go to a hotel at the dorm and says sir, did you look at the bottom of your feet when you came in? we are getting to the port of los angeles and doocy all of those, it's scary andnd contains are not moving and there are people home not working so that's not sustainable something is going to happen.

the second is, we have a constitutional system that's pretty durable. i feel this midterm, republican party -- let me stop. if the republican party can be somewhat sensible, they can have a 1938 or 1994, 2010 correction and stop it very quickly. what makes me excited for the first time in my life about the republican party, never been a member of the republican party, i look at it and think wow, i is my friend was a highway patrolman so eager to be a republican, why the communities along the border here to be publicans for the first time in my life, people of different

races saying they are republican? i think they see r themselves as middle-class and they feel they have more in common, i know mexican american persons, they share more in common with a white child in bakersfield with the major with elite studies professors at stanford so we are building very slowly a new middle class has a lot in common but does not trust the open borders mentality or identity politics, inbox things for the middle class. shirley doesn't like these academic revolutionaries to change the constitutional filibuster and they want a place here so i am happy to talk to so

many people i grew up with and they say things to me like anybody goes to prison where you work? i said no and they said do they know what's best for us? i said no, they don't know anything about us. they can tell you every restaurant in london or paris but they've never been to bakersfield and they never will and they don't want to but these new middle class people want to go see that world, they are much more open-minded so i am optimistic, we areey created and how ironic historyry is, it's kd of tragic, we get this orange billionaire that's written off as the most selfish person and he sees something 16 other brilliant candidates didn't but you can remake the republican party and addressed concerns of people in the middle east and i don't know if he knew that but that is the way history works

sometimes. it's a long windyme answer but there's a lot to be hoped for. >> amen, we'll leave it at that. [applause] >> please help yourself to another drink and thank you to victor and megyn kelly. >> i love that. anytime. [inaudible conversations] >> with the senate out of session, join us all week for book tv. tonight, recent vexed sellers. authors and journalists including bob woodward and robert costa on their latest peril. after that, victory davis hanson and his book, the die citizen. ben shapiro on his bestseller, the authoritarian movement that

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