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get started, visitor website is student cam .org. >> it is my great joy and privilege to be able to introduce you to our speaker today born in the united states and lives in england where she is live for a number of years and she was a biographer historian in the author of several books in addition to this book which shall a smidgen that she wrote a dangerous - love others and she is a meticulous researcher, susan ronald, and has done a number of resources in a volcanic the book is she's going to be talking today about his the ambassador, it is about joseph kennedy at a time whenam he was ambassador to great britain at the beginning of the book of world war ii and we will have a time for q&a at the end of the presentation so if you have questions please
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enter them into the chat and we will bring them to her and in thank you. >> thank you very much mary, i am really happy to be here and thank you everybody for coming to this at 2:00 o'clock in the afternoon. i'm going to try to screen share so bear with me in here we go people ask, why joe kennedy and what made you want to write about him, people know things about him andeo some know a lot about him but the answer is actually right simple, i write about power and greed so this is my shameless piece of self-promotion that i am giving you in the last three books are about powerful people and greeted and the only one who was a good guy - and will move on from that real quick. joe kennedy was seen to be the founder of the kennedy politicaf dynasty, he had nine children.
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they were all heavily competitive with one another and they were all often described as a clan or tribe and actually were pretty joe jr. the oldest died unfortunately during the war. but he seemed to be the brother who loved but the also feared the most he was apparently quite a bully actually resembled his father the most as well. in the actual founder of the american kennedy cloud had clan was patrick joe's father the first generation american and he was very active in east boston which was a poor immigrant area primarily of irish immigrants and he was the one that the kennedy side of the family involved in politics and he was the head of to view ever for the o'connors book the last hurrah, that will give you an idea of
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the type of shenanigans that they got up to. he became actually quite wealthy and being a local politician which i scratch your back you scratch mine for instance and but the man who was really in charge boston democratic politics was john fitzgerald, known as benefits and he was rose kennedy's father and he looked down on patrick kennedy and he was twice boston estate senator and also went to the house of representatives. he didn't like the fact that the kennedy was courting his oldest college etiquette in red educated doctor but he would allow her to marry, joe because he was going to become the youngest bank president in america. here's a picture of joe. it is a very small bank and her
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father on the most of the shares. his wedding picture. previously said i don't really like the gannon sabia said they didn't really like the tree was taken with her. but they were married in october of 1914. one of those things and honey fitz did as well was to make sure to keep joe on the straight and narrow which will a of coure he never could do but he gave joe his own private secretary the man on the right here, as a matter of fact teddy kennedy, after him and he became a permanent fixture in the family and stayed with joe until he died. this picture is taken in 1938 when he was on holiday with his wife mary next to him and rose the. in july 1917 had two sons i rose
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and joe jr. on the left and jack and i don't call john f. kennedy john, just: jack because it's on the family refer to him. but in 1917, the war came to america, world war i came to america, you can't number them until there is a second one. so he asked for the occupation meaning it would not be drafted. in rad beenaf sent draft letters but honey fitz arranged for him to become a manager at the shipyard in boston and the only problem is that joe had not been properly briefed and people it actually been drafted in management. and all of the workmen had been promised a raise braided the assistant secretary of the navy,
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eleanor roosevelt was angry because everybody walked out and joked one of the most important shipyards on the eastern seaboard and he and charles schwab, in charge of the shipyard had to personally get the men back to work and joe was put to the lesser function until the war was over and after the war he went to a small stockbroker in boston. he liked the idea of making money so after couple of years there, he went into wall street really into his own and by 25, he made his first million. and his children and the money went into the trust is in 1925, he bought his house in new york and then set about making a second portion. becausetu he heard you're goingo
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make talkies in california, los angeles and he thought this is the thing for me and i know what is going to do but instead of actually making his money out of his movie, and louis christie who owned it eileen's department store in boston, backed into by a very small film distribution dcompany called the booking offices of america. and joe began his life, he's a master showman of the world and is his films were usually quite profitable event they were what i call c or d films really, he made his money and then later on merging it so he created it the very first large studio. the other thing thate he did in hollywood with soup manage the biggest star, gloria swanson and they also became lovers predict
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now unfortunately, his job he tires with his job within two years. but in the main because he made two films with gloria darcy and in 1930 and one called kelly and which is so bad it was never a release the other one was the widow and gloria asked him, their bookkeeping area, you seem to have given the writer a new cadillac and coming up with the title with a winnowing joe looked looked at her and he turned bright red and literally walked out of her life and she never ever heard from him again and joked about it actually. anything goes back to new york and i thought you would like to see this image of central park in 1930 after the wall street crash pretty and there were
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things that when the wall street traders were still in working, given a lot of time off to sell apples on the streets in order to make ends meet. joe was not paying any attention to the poor or the american he decided that he wanted to make his fortune now. his third fortune and also get in politics and what better way than to become friendly with elliott roosevelt who was the oldest son of franklin and in the 1932 campaign, elliott was in charge of trying to make his father's campaign in boston and also setting up b an insurance business may be friends and he callss himself has blessed fathr and so what happens in his before prohibition, actually resending it, joe takes elliott to europe and lots of other
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people are trying to bargain for the rights to import risky to america, coming with a man who everybody thinks is the future presidents son, is going to win out. joe went out so before prohibition had been rescinded shortly after the election, joe had already begged his next fortune pretty but what joe really wanted because he had people working for him that has to be involved in the day to day importing of the liquor, he wanted to become secretary to the treasury and the earnest money from contributions from all kinds of people during the 2 campaign but of course roosevelt said joe kennedy run the treasury the way he wants to not pay me a blind bit of notice so estate is choice.
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joe had to settle to become the first chairman of the security and exchange commission a did a reasonable job all the documentation that but all of the laws however were written by others and joe ended up trying to befriend at the only one who actually worked with joe long afterwards was a man called james landers who was one of kennedy's unpublished memoir. he finally made the cover of time magazine which of course means that for joe, that's great success but now 1935, and in a job in 1933 until 1935, and then time to retire, came to roosevelt. thankfully we had to go to europe and he said to me favor, as an official advisor could you find out from everyone in europe when they will pay our wedding because it would really help us
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from the depression into recovery. [inaudible]. and he went to berlin and he refuses to meet him and he goes to rome and he has contacts with the vatican that he refuses to meet with him and then the ambassador and american investor really wants joe and his patch so he was in london it when meets with the american ambassador there. he introduces him to other people including chamberlain who was at the time the checker and he also introduced him to the bankerss and loans of other people and joe biden get the idea through 1935 visit, where in october 1935, i quite like to be ambassador to britainul and i think i can have my children get
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some international experience but anyway 1935 and he is going to be 36th election again to 1 reelect roosevelt and joe goes to work and he said maybe i can become invested are so he went over the winter and it's aimed at primarily, because the one thing that roosevelt had trouble with was. [inaudible]. in america because they hateded him a they thought that he had communistic tendencies all kinds of rumors that were being spread against roosevelt so another person that kennedy gets involved with is the base of he was on the at the cardinal but he spent his entire youth in an effectively translator for the pope as well as for another is
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pictured below with his entourage to the right of the screen and joe kennedy's is just to the left. so he wants to come to america joe wants himca to meet with the president because he wants to develop a closer relationship with, the catholic pope in this agreement is an essentially what happens is he said well he's going to meet not until such time as he is reelected there's a big o'clock between joe and all of the others but unfortunately. roosevelt and in this pictures actually it - and gentlemen becomes quite chummy with joeth and his name is enrico and he is basically the vatican architect. but is also the architect in the
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vatican and other thing that joe didn't understand about the vatican position is at the time since 1929, when he did his deal, the vatican had agreed to stay out of politics and they gave up the states in italy and he created the vatican city and although we know today as the vatican and he then also did a number of things throughout europe and a lot of the fascista country so that he could protect the catholics within those countries but also get more money for the catholic church and he did not understand this. in 1926 election, there was a time when america was almost all blue and joe failed to get the support of the ambassador. and even if he is not a well
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man, and instead given the very lowly position of the first chairman of the marathon tradition because there 400 contracts that were catching the government and he had 73 days to sort them out and he did work very hard to do it but at the same time, he said both are not going to appreciate it and politics and that not going to be looked after, i'm'm going to send newspapers and they were up for sale for 50 cents on the dollar joe wanted to buy them for 10 cents on the dollar that story unfortunately made the cut in my book but it's a very interesting story. and joe then decides okay, it is going to be ambassador or nothing at the end of 1937, he has the picture taken of the family and this is the portrait shows him as ambassador. this is whator he said, it's wht
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he wants to give to rose and the family can the social register the kennedys no longer would be just also arranged, he wanted to make the name great read and a son joe jr. was going to be graduating harvard in june 1938 and joe was in government and he had made his special area of interest. spain, most importantly, it was because that was a war which the church had taking the side of the rebels with franco as opposed to the government side of the loyalist side which was socialist and communist. and one thing that i have to say is that joe jr. and joe and morbid fear of competition.
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hjack in the meantime had just started his first year at harvard easily two years younger than joe jr. but he was a very very sickly child and family discovered that he does and had a disease at age of 70 by this time, nobody had any idea what was wrong with him and he became in his own words a very interesting case and he goes to europe that summer with his good friend and write some and diary and it's actually available at the jfk library online and it really does make very very interesting reading. negative joe jr. is writing to his father and expounding everything, my father said he believes worse jack, who because of his illness has read so much and is the reader of his family is thinking things through and try to understand what is happening between communist and
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fascist, vertically in europe and how it's going to affect america. he was definitely very clear headed internationalist thinker. so how will joe achieve this willll he's been writing for a t of the press for a lot of the time and he writes that he is coming back to john hopkins hospital because nobody's been v able to figure out what's wrong with him and easy only is going to retire so joe asked his good friend arthur who is the washington chief of the new york times to help them get the word out that he is the best man for this job just think that he is retiring from have to say this point, then he claims in his memoir that he never received any financial benefit from joe kennedy actually, $25000 in the
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years that he got plus of all of the vacations in europe and at the beach and i also need to say that i don't think the new york times was aware of that relationship. so these are the guys, the three men that are going to make a name kennedy great predict joe jr. is sent to his father that is already been to russia and run europe and jack is now been around europe and arthur is also very dear friend of the boys in trying to help them and promote them into politics. joe finally gets nominated because of arthur leaking the fact that he should become the investor and sorry, i missed a slide, he's finally sworn and in february 1938, news took place
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in december 9th of 1937 and why there was this delay, i ask about in the book that is still something of a mystery number of different reasons i could've happened but you have to read the book to understand that in any way he comes to london on march the first and is a picture of joe march 8, 1938 in front of the palace and as he is going in to talk to king george the sixth and the gentleman on the second from the left and the uniform is an american and he is carnal the a col. leein his book, he had sy by this time, he was drunk on his own and that is probably the most true statement anybody is ever said about joe.
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he was constantly shooting his mouth off without c realizing it that messages got back to people and by the time he had been reported as pastor roosevelt the new all the terrible things that he said about him but he said amount into england because he was less of a risk of a dream overseas that he was to human washington because joe was isolationist and he did not believe that america should have any international obligation other than to our money. in the first person who's nosy put out of joint was a week later randolph churchill. and when it brendan randolph and winston churchill took him out for lunch and joe was talking about how britain did not know what it was doing and should not be hurdling itself towards more and reynolds at the time was a journalist and winston apparently stood up and turned purple and lectured joe for ten
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minutes and he walked out and randall on the other hand talk about that credentials of joann. but he said he only stood out because he would talk to people and long trousers nurses became the american press about how he worked for breaches and how he could not do that. it would make him a laughingstock. but now joe is the ambassador and is given is traditional for the the king of course has a duty to court joe as well as joe going around to meet all of the other ambassador of imports back on the ninth into the march, with all the other investors saying that the european situation to the two gentlemen. these secretary of state, the
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longest one american history and is the assistant secretary of wells. then days of this literally on the 15th off march, joe does the unpardonable thing it and in a telephone call, said i am the european extra police showed up and you do not know what is going on here. andd therefore, within 15 days f his arrival in england, and the state department angry. why did he think that, while his good friend was a committed fascist, was one of the ones driving in a joe jr. was also a joe jr. was also listening to this another fact, kennedy hisson against the wishes of the
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state department and the reason they didn't want him to hire him, was because he was utterly inexperienced. however, joe met him again the bike now he is prime minister and he thought came in and had the answer to everything. joe started to sing his praises back to the state department into the white house getting him even angrier and he said nasty things about even to the president personally. he thought edward was a replacement, foreign minister, on exhibit two protestant for his liking which was true he was extremely religious as we say here, but he's tell that some of
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the first time that he met him was not surprised that joe was swearing like a trooper acting terribly any rut that to the british ambassador. so backing up to march 11, in london who was the ambassador and alcorn to germany and is in london to present the new investor to written a laugh because you take one look at the spiny say oh my goodness, what's what happened next. and been in poland that in 1920, he was then moved in the early 1930s to tokyo and was responsible for bringing japan closer to the axis powers. so now he's in england based on strict orders to befriend kennedy and already fight can,
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they have two separate meetings and with kennedy as lucy lipton he's actually betraying american foreign policy. they after this meeting kennedy writes in his diary, i'm very disappointed that he wouldn't come to me to oxford, he's on to more important international business and it's remarkable, austria into germany. and he thinks, joe thinks that chamberlain has learned to control but he also thinks that quality has to do is to get with hitler and he'll be able to solve all of the problems because you great business many things that he can handle politics and is attainable, sad thing is that he didn't have diplomatic bone in his body.
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winston churchill is against him. the following are deard friend mr. chamberlain. april, 1938, and rose are invited to windsor castle now joe is getting drunk on british high society and all the wonderfully of things that he is doing and he is happy and he made it impossible for american debutantes to come to be presented according unless they have a clearly established relationship with britain. rosen he become friendly with the brother and rose presenter to eldest daughters, in may of 1938 at court and interesting,
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i quote from rose's diary that when she talkss about that she does not talk about how the girls, only about how she did. one of the things that joe did in april, as he is asked nancy, to see if he could actually introduce his daughter to some icing was people her own age and he attended a party weekend a party is no hotel. there she met and became restaurant in england and then also about two weeks later james cousin, the heir to the duke and literally love at first sight it was a a tremendous love affair. meanwhile, he's very worried and
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some working so the insurer shall, the same spring start to work together another economic means of tryingic to outwit germany. kennedy is completely oblivious about that. ... this is something that we know
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that people don't forget. they don't get what you look like. and if you take her at her word, the next time they were going to go home was for joe junior's graduation from harvard university. and of course, he was very happy to give him good press, which made roosevelt angry. really angry. he refused to see him. so he is so angry that he starts to go early to the graduation and then discovers that harvard is going to refuse to give him an honorary doctorate and instead they chose 14 other people and its walt disney to guide him upset. he comesnd back to europe. one the of the reasons he was chosen in terms of this is that he wasve a business man and it s being negotiated with america as the time and they thought that is a good businessman he could
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negotiate it. and he's flying back to the state department, everyone is disappearing at the end of july, the state department already knew that he had -- he had pplanned to go at the end and everybody else was staying on at the time because there was something very wrong in europe at that time. they i felt that hitler was goig to move again. the reason that he wanted to go is to prevent two get kicked cannot marry the duke. and so is the last thing she wanted was what his daughter to marry a protestant, particularly as peter was madly in love with kate kennedy as well. but it really only love him.
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the picture is jack with his sister, his picture, the whole family in front of their little cabana at the beach and again, he had his mouth open. as he was there he was talking about how he was certain people were useless, how the whole state department, if it were in his hands, he can fix it. but it was not broken, of course. his next-door neighbors heard about it and actually at that time that word was so prepared that he let the royal family know in england that there is a problem with joe. and meanwhile he's another teacher, marlene they began the marital affair. and if you ever want to read something that is absolutely riveting it is her account, her
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biography of her mother. her remarks about the kennedy children are absolutelyhi delicious. and so he's having his affair and he is still there when it starts and then he comes back very belatedly and he wants in on the h meeting of the other american ambassador to ise actually something and so he bet to roosevelt is the only one that can change the world in this way. he's the only one that can bring peace, and he saying that he is going through something that joe repeats and then gets the state department and the president angrier and angrier. t because of course chamberlain had refused roosevelt over pete in january, 1938.
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they said that they were aware that they were dealing with a difficult man was probably anti-american. then he comes back at the end of september. waving his piece of paper, claiming piece for the time. and he had shivers when he hears what he says because he knows that britain absolutely must rearm, but of course they don't. it is a a local newspaper, which actually says it all, that he's running roughshod over everybody. two months after this we have kristallnacht. which was an excuse and nothing else for killing people. and joe decides well, maybe this thing might be of interest to me thif i would run for office in america and i may be able to get the vote. he thinks about putting
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together, something he calls the kennedy plan. one of the 900 synagogues that was destroyed. he goes backk to america for a prolonged holiday. a christmas holiday. between 38 and 39. he is gone for two months, this has been a thing of his. he constantly goes back for two months at christmas. and meanwhile the exit is of the people and actually eastern europe, begins and so he writes here something called the kennedy plan, which is effectively stolen from other works written by other people who were working out of the london embassy. and he comes back in the middle of february. immediately at that time he asks if he can be part of this because levinson has guided his
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good friend has now become pope pius xii. except he comes with all of his children, his nanny, butler and a few other people and i write about what happens. and so you have to read the book to get to that. and he marches in. >> and then he talks to eunice,
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and it is a world heritage site. they meet at hyde park. joe triesk to claim loudly that he is the one that had organized this. but it's actually been in the offing since 1926 when george was king. it's when he was sent a special envoy to ask him if he'd come to america. at this point roosevelt had warned the king that if he wants to know about american foreign policy he should not be asking joe kennedy. now, joe is desperate. he believes that there is going to be a war. and so effectively what happens at this time if he asks charles
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lindbergh to please write a big report about it will be to be a war against germany. that includes the state department and of course the president a heads up as to what bloomberg is going to be doing if he comes back to america. and certainly he became the spokesman for the america first committee, whose father was make america great again and as you can see, he and a roosevelt were not on good terms. and the act happens and it is going to seemingly guarantee a war. germany is now going to have to bfight the soviets to begin wi.
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so within days, i think seven days, britain is forced to declare war on germany when germany invades poland. joe is now completely sidetracked by the foreign office and also by the american state department, they are working together with the british ambassador and through other people as well, roosevelt is now in touch directly with churchill and every day that he is hearing is very different than everything he's hearing froms churchill so joe decides n late november but i'm going away. i am notac going to come back. i have stomach alters or whatever, nobody really knows what is wrong with his gastrointestinal system. but he's actually -- and this is one of the very few medical documents on file at the kennedy
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library, he had the doctors saying that his gastrointestinal tract leads him to stay in palm beach. well, she announced her and come back in march. and then we learn in march 1940 and that includes reaching back to britain. and that includes in halifax. and the king's diary explains how upset he was the joe would not meet privately on this matter. as you know, there was a long time of the war between september, 1939 and april, 1940, when nothing was ever happening and germany had invaded norway, the british were defeated and
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within three weeks churchville is asked to form a government by theth king. because it was by such a slim margin. everybody knew that it was possibly going to be a part of this churchill has been part of the, he was the only man that could possibly save the country and he's the only man that did not congratulate him and there were four different documents i came across. and it was later found to congratulate churchill. so within six months of churchill becoming prime minister of england, he was moved to become the british ambassador over the previous
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ambassador and mostly because he felt it would be honest and america. and that includes one of them came to america, it was kicked to help him through his problems. he lost both in the campaign and she was absolutely wonderful to him and the would help her get back here so that she could marry billy in 1943 in the summer of 1940, obviously, the blitz begins. and people were taking shots where they could. joe kennedy was told he cannot come back to america coming at d you havee to help and well, he never went to see the bombed out
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areas. this is the closest he came, telling everybody that he was -- that he was actually bombed out of the american ambassador residence in the west end. and there were absolutely no bombs. so he became known by a nickname at this time. he had left london. he did not see the bombed out areas he did not inquire after the king and after buckingham palace had been bombed. he was a very scary man. but the one man that was not scared with jack kennedy. this is a picture of joe as he leaving england in october 1940. recently having a tiff with the king of england and the queen and he upset them so much that
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he wrote him a letter about how they are about the need to fight and i did put that into the book as well. his good friend who had remained a part of the cabinet r had died later and so he reads these constant things. wonderful and inspiringri words. under the guidance and he is going to declare that these are coming back to america. and it is a fascinating portrait , who doesn't realize that they should keep their own
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counsel. he lobbies against britain. he talks against britain and that includes as much as he is by the state department. but in america nobody really knows what is going on. and he decides okay, i better go to war. and he said he says he is reaching out but he never hears back. and this was one of the highest that he would ever achieve. until his dying day he wanted to be a part part of this. his sons were more brave. you know that he had the pt 109 experience but there is another
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one, one of the very first casualties, civilian casualties of the war. and i couldn't civilian casualties that took place on september 4, 1938, and it was not his fatherthat handled it. until dinner was made a pilot. he was apparently a mediocre pilot and he had volunteered to be the first drone pilot because he didn't want to be a greater hero thann him. ardsley jacobin decorated for dt 109 for saving lives. and that is what he was with the competition between them.
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in this man's greatest legacy was his children who absolutely adored him. and according to jack when he was president, joe kennedy made everything possible. >> thank you, susan, that was utterly fascinating statement to see if i can get myself out on her now and okay, i am trying to get back. i don't want people asked questions to the flight. [laughter] and should i do not?
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okay. a quick powerpoint. okay, there we go. excellent. >> we do have some questions. one of them is how did joe maintain his reputation today in the united states and why is this information about this time in the book "the ambassador" not well known? >> that is the main question that i asked myself when i was reading all of the kennedy biographies. why hasn't anyone written about his time in england in the closest anybody came to writing about it and that includes the kennedys in the gathering form, it's a very nice book about thee kennedy family, written at the time. not about the political and
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diplomatic dilemma is that were going on. and i like writing about people that are reasonably well-known. little known stories about them and i think that that is the main reason why nobody knows and all of the biographies here, nobody was interested enough to write about it. so i think a also perhaps he haa researcher here that he personally didn't come to cope with. when he wrote his biography, he was using the research for it. so they did not see winston churchill scribbling in his
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hand, kennedy finally called today and they did not see the note, the researcher had missed the note. then goodness we wouldn't have the vapors of kennedy when we are in the house of commons. okay. so these o are things, i believe to do research or self, but nobody, nobody, nobody had been to the royal archives before. honestly it's a big thing to get into the royal archives. you know, anybody who is accredited with what a publisher can do. but it takes a long time for it to happen. so i do l believe that nobody ee has n really written what king george wrote about him. that is why it is important. >> thank you. >> another question is about joe's relationship to jack and how did that help him even
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though their policies differed greatly. >> estimates easier with the second and the first to answer that. the second one talks about when children are guys. jack was still in the hospital of pt 109 and he heard that his brother was dead. and he apparently sighed and said oh, dear lord, now it's down to me. jack actually wanted to be a writer. he started out as a journalist. and so he knew that he had no choice. and i don't know that he would've had a d choice even if joe junior would not i have died in that includes creating a dynasty and that includes how
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joe held. their relationship, they thought that that was normal and that is the way that they grew up. they also thought it was okay and normal to be absent for 300 days per year. and they did cram together. and he gave them a sense together and he was always
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called dad and mom. the dissent figure. never analyzing and the thing is that jacks string is that he never contradicted his father, he s never expected like you hae to do this or that. he found a very diplomatic way of speaking to him and joe ended up respecting him for his different views therefore. but the main thing is that he financed the 1960 campaign and that was the thing in there is going to and he helped end it
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was art he known that he wasou a fascist sympathizer and political circles and i should say tonight that he had irish ssympathies that took apart in this? >> i think that he did but he had them very well. he managed to wrangle and he was
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very pro-ireland and he was very much at a difficult time with the british in terms of accepting the irish free state. and i think that he understands the sensibilities. and he didn't feel so much british or pro-irish, which is interesting given what theyng hd said about britain fighting hitler.
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>> certainly he had imported this before prohibition was over, he had been a part of that. and i had heard from friends in boston that it is definitely what had happened and nobody has proven it. >> these are a couple of very smart cookies here. tell us about what you are reading and what you might recommend for our participants today? >> welcome i just finished "where the crawdad singh" a few
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days ago. and her use of language as well as -- at such a phenomenal book. i have read a couple books per week before i was reading peter's autobiography. the reasonn for that is that he appears in my next book and it was absolutely amazing and it is called "dear me." and i don't know many pbs watchers there, but he is the creator on pbs america. and it's very vague when it
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comes to the british name and so i am currently reading his murderous magpie -- but it's magpie murderers. i'm also reading as well at the same time, of course, it because you must read two books for pleasure. the dictator's new and it makes me laugh area because it's really great fun in those things make me laugh. but it is very wellho written. >> thank you so much. and we are so grateful for all that you have done talking with us today, it is fascinating. i know that people are looking forward to reading your book.
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we would like to thank the friends as well for being here. thank you for letting us know we can purchase your book asas wel. this will be available on the youtube channel so if you have a friend that would like to pick it up, we can do that. and it will be ready tomorrow. the next potter series will take place on september 30. this is an in person series with harris, and it will take place at the library in conjunction with it. so we thank you and we want to wish you a wonderful day. thank you, susan samet take care and good buy. goodbye. [laughter] ♪ ♪ >> every weekend on c-span2, and intellectual feast. every saturday, american history
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