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intellectual feast. every saturday you will find events and people that explore our nation's past on american history tv. on sundays booktv brings you the latest in nonfiction books s and authors. it's television for serious readers. lauren, discover, explore. weekends on c-span2. >> welcome to the free library in philadelphia, thank you very much for being here. i'm laura kovacs and i'm honored to be here. hillary clinton's chief of staff huma abedin begin as an intern for the former first lady in 1996. in the interim she has served in u.s. senate as senior advisor to secretary clinton, worked as a traveling chief of staff to clinton's 2008 presidential campaign, was the deputy chief of staff in the u.s. department
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of state. in her candid new memoir she emerges from the wings of american political history to take command of her own story. tonight she will be joined in conversation with award-winning journalist, tracey matisak. thank you both so much for being here. the screen is all yours.
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it is a very special cd in my family. in fact, as i write in the book my parents were both immigrants. my father came from india, there were both fulbright scholars of university of pennsylvania and it almost didn't happen because my mother was picking between university of pennsylvania and berkeley and she almost picked berkeley that she picked penn and from my earliest memories my parents would bring us back to philadelphia, tell us about the house on chestnut street and, in fact, in the book the picture of my parents that i share is in standing in front of the house and have this place it was went to, pizzeria.
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i'm so happy talking to you tonight. >> we are delighted to have you with us. we'll get into the book now. you often mention a book your preferred place is in the background behind the scenes. it begs the question what made you decide to write this book and to put your story out there? >> you are 100% 100% right. i've always prefer to be behind the scenes. i like to be invisible person behind the primary person whether that's my parents, my boss or the man i was married to. and i was comfortable there for me is always about the cause, the mission the work i was doing. i didn't really care about center of attention. writing the book have even on my wedding day i felt uncomfortable being the center of attention even though i was the bride. was a strange place for me to be. but i did feel as though i've been in public service for 25 years and other people were telling my story and sharing things about me, and finally i
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decided to take control of my own story, tell my truth. because if i don't so much else is right in my history, and i did. >> so in telling your story it also meant resurrecting every story and all of the pain that came with that. tell me how you work through that. >> i appreciate somebody framed it as anthony had a story, and he does and her things in the book i don't share or i will say this is anthony's story to tell. i do try to tell from the perspective of how it impacted me as a partner in the relationship. i sort of take the readers down that memory lane being captivated by the truly dynamic, smart, you know, hard-working public servant, and then to go through a dream marriage that
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turned very sadly and quickly into a nightmare and then the ups and downs we went through as we tried to navigate bring a child into this world. i was not even 12 weeks pregnant the first time anthony's hearse scandal broke, then trying to figure how to navigate our mental health, how to find help. when we did know who to turn to or how to make it work. it took us a long time to get to the place and it took me to a pretty dark place before got to the other side in order to write this book, share my story and one of the reasons i did it was i think there are plenty of people in the world who unfortunately had to endure our enduring what i did. i just had to do the front page of the paper and the daikon help them in some way. >> you said writing the book was therapeutic for you. >> it was, tremendously. the reason i started early in my early life my father was close to i think my father always
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believed i would be a writer i do tell a story in the book when i was ten my father came back from a trip to london and he brought me a book called silence by george eliot. i was ten years old and didn't understand material but when i read the introduction i realized george eliot was at it with my father and said -- [inaudible] women were not taken seriously as writers though she was using a snake, but don't worry. you'll use your own name and it will take it seriously. heart of it is sort of honoring that leave that my parents had in me. >> as laura mentioned you work for hillary clinton and still do that you been there for 25 2s on the way back to when you an intern in the white house as secretary of state under president obama and during the 2016 campaign, you had --
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[inaudible] i write about the gratitude in part because of the privilege to serve in the clinton administration, the obama administration, working with senators like john mccain. having an approach to the way i wrote the book not to telling the story but showing what it was like, showing what it was like to be in those rooms on those airplanes traveling to countries, being on inside and really patriots doing the best they could for the causes they thought were important for our nation. sometimes i do have moments like you can't believe these stories and that's what the book is a long and it put so many of them in there. >> you entered the white house right around the time
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hillary clinton was going through a very difficult marital crisis playing out in public and at the time we could've never known several years down the road you would have your own marital difficulties playing out on the front pages of the paper. going back to the time when you first entered when you are dealing with your own story, how did hrc, as you refer to in book, how did she counsel you during those difficult times. >> as you said, i was a 21-year-old intern when i walked in the into the white house in 1996 completely in awe of the experience, falling in love with the work, with the people, talk about the culture of hillary land and to support. i think everyone goes through their own challenges and you can't compare situations. back then for me my job was leaked to take care of her.
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as that story broke i i choseo write a chapter about the impeachment in part because you can mark all of my professional advancements alongside kind of major news in that situation and so i thought it was relevant to write it and i wrote it but my job at the time, the way i handled it, i want to figure how to make life easier. she was doing was so much stress and pressure come for me was that caretaking. in my situation all those many years later she's always approach our conversation as a friend first and boss next and by she always gave me was i'm here to support you no matter what you choose to do, i'm here to support you. just know you have that. so i did kerry that confidence in our relationship throughout all these years. >> you stood by anthony's site for a long time. some people felt maybe -- [inaudible] after sort of the repeated
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sexting scandals and all of that came with it, usually front page stories for a while. why did you make the decision to stay as long as you did and even to go so far as to publicly defend him when he was running for mayor back in i think it was 2013? >> right. i think a lot of people looked at my relationship with anthony threw a 2021 perspective in hindsight of 2020, and it is why i wrote in detail, as i was writing the book someone was hoping with research toby the most common headline about me during that time was what is she thinking and what is wrong with her? so i put in the book what i was thinking and why he made the choices that i made. but when you were in it you just time to make, i was trying to make the next right decision for myself and believe my child. when the first story broke i
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wasn't even 12 weeks pregnant. i was a newlywed. we were not just living a life. we were living this extra gun like i open the chapter with a scene from buckingham palace making up going to a white tie dinner knowing i was carrying his baby. i was deeply in love with my husband. i thought i had the perfect husband. and then in the years following as obviously his behavior changed and actually got worse, i don't believe for a long time, tracey, that i understood it. i grew up in a family that my parents were very happily married. i didn't know anybody who was divorced. i did know how to handle it. i had anger and rage but i couldn't figure out why. i didn't understand. don't think therapy did very much for me. therapy took a long time for it to help and that's why i share in the book all the things that anthony did you on the one hand, he took care of everything. he took care of our household
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and our schedule and our child in the caretaking. and then on the other hand, he was living this life that was shocking. it was a struggle and the 2013, the reason i stood up at the press conference as as a shaa book is because i was trying to figure the first time it happened i just wanted my life back. for me to get anthony back, i was trying to fix things and get anthony back into a profession i find good at. it was a mistake in hindsight but because i i encouraged hio i thought i needed to do with the consequences and stand with them when that may oral race fell apart. >> you write very honest about that time in the immediate aftermath of standing up for him at the were those in hillary clinton's or would have felt like you're now become a liability consummate so that you feared losing your job behind it. how did all of that play out? >> i will soul is going to lose my job over it. it was horrible.
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it was this, dinner, even at the time people thought of making this big mistake. even today i don't believe i made a mistake in standing at the press conference because as i i said to me have felt like i was taken responsibility for decision we had made jointly. i think if i'd understood clearly been the mental health challenge he was having, is falling into the behavior of the social media portals that are not been available and then all of a sudden were available to him was something you couldn't stop. i write in the book, i don't understand why can't you just knock it off? when you are in any kind of relationship with somebody who has predicted behavior or can't stop, it's hard to navigate that space. i do write the scene, i was told hillary was going to let me go and i drove through house and she did not let me go because as she told me she valued the work i did professionally for her and
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she did not believe that i should pay for my husbands mistakes. >> there was also a point where you thought you might lose your son because everything was happening was happening with anthony then, the child welfare is office, and it just seemed to add a whole other dimension to all the crises you are facing at that time. >> it did. it did. it was six months of both terror but also defiance. i felt judged. when i write in the book, because i was a working mother and to say because you are not present, why should in my capacity for my child, i take that very seriously and obviously was very relieved when that situation was resolved. >> on top of all of that there
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was the decision by then fbi director james comey to reopen the investigation into hillary's e-mails and, of course, the reason that additional e-mails with them because they were investigating anthony and they found these e-mails on his laptop. as you write and as we remember investigation was quickly closed but you're right in the book about how i spoke with anthony over the phone and you said that if hillary loses the election it will be because of you and me. and you say you went on to write the following in your book. you wrote i do not know how i'm going to survive this. help me god. of course she goes on in fact, to lose the election. that is a heavy load to carry. how did you process all that? >> first, one of the many reasons i wrote this book is to share what it is to be a muslim, an american muslim and my faith has always been central and core
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to my life. i do think god is carrying me through in so many ways. that conversation was a moment in time, in that moment not knowing what was going to happen. because this announcement was so unprecedented, so shocking, and particularly that's what i write in the book that i'd cooperate with the investigation from day one and when i read in the paper the was an investigation that i've been asked to provide vitriol, i went down the hall to my office to call a lawyer to say no one has asked me to provide anything, how can i assist? a year later to read in the news something that if i been asked i would've been saying please come take a look at it. you know, tracey, i think i write this in the book, i couldn't even feel anymore because feeling felt selfish in that moment. like, it was all about the mission, and the mission was the
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election in 11 days and obviously we know how that ended. that is something i do have to question and it took me to a very dark place after the election and it really had to get professional help to get to where i am sitting in this chair talking to you today. i'm glad i got help. i need need to get. >> you write of james comey that he was a daily nightmare and use it even now the memory of his decisions feels like torture cubic you said it felt like he was playing god. >> that was a choice that was made that affected the outcome of the election, in my opinion, period, full stop, it did. and i don't leap it was necessary for them to make that announcement and it did. but i had to let go. when i carried after the election was the feeling that should single-handedly lost because of me. and that is the burden that i
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thought was too much to bear and it did work my way through that. actually no one has asked me this but they are still keeping up on me, moments in this world things that happen in our country that are doubly would've happened if hillary clinton were president. that's when it creeps up on me. i don't think we would've lost that many lies to covid hillary clinton had been president. i don't think we would've put this deadline on pulling out of afghanistan if hillary clinton was president. that's when it prepped up on me. >> fast-forward to 2019 and was a time that you described is one of the most difficult periods in your life as if -- you read about how you couldn't eat or sleep and how for a fleeting moment you consider stepping off the subway platform. take us back to that time. it was a very dark time but is also a major turning point for you. what happened there?
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>> i really chose to share this part of my story, it was a very difficult time, because i think this notion of community and support and knowing that you have support, for me was so important. and for most of my life, i talk about my early life, what we call the community and you always have a sense of support. if you need something somebody is there. there's a wedding, you go. there's a funeral, you go. i went to university and i join hillary land which will he was a. i write in that chapter hillary land, let's help you fix this and how is your mother? hillary clinton is all these things. she cultivated a culture of support. i was surrounded by tightness
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the people in 2019 was very different. i felt alone. anthony was away. a brief period of communal, i was a single parent and boy do i believe single-parent our heroes. it was hard to be a single parent juggling work and motherhood, and feeling very alone not going into the office every day. i got so low and just the fact i thought about it for a fleeting moment told in that instant, i need help. i need help. i could do it and nancy and i could do it together and it was brutal. we went through of process called a disclosure process, and for me it was the only way through. it was the only way i was able to get to the other side and feel as healthy and whole as they do today. >> when you talk about anthony, he was incarcerated for a period of time. he was ultimately diagnosed with
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sex addiction and that was something a friend of yours had mentioned to you some years prior, but none of the therapists you are working with wood using that term. and in no anthony has his own story to tell but i was just wondering what do you want people to know about that, about sex addiction and what that is? >> from my perspective and i never really, we were seeing therapists fairly regularly. i think the biggest thing i learned why really embraced the process, because it did not come what i didn't understand i had to let go of this notion as somebody who has had so much control in her life. i'm very good at organizing and control, and to me i had to accept that there were aree things you can't control and for some people, as i learned in therapy, that people when they're in the midst of addictive behavior they do things and to consider things that they never would win they were sort of and in much more
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present state. and so i had to be open to that. it's not that i thought he messes to have bad therapist because we didn't. i had to be open to it and understand it. you go into therapy and it's not just one week are one month. it's a long process and for him he is still committed to the process. you have to remain committed to the process. so for me it is less about whatever they diagnosed him with and it's about how is he a good father for our child? hideaway keeping the place where he is a good partner in use a good parent? because i know that's the most important thing to both of us and thankfully we managed to do it. but as his mental health and his addiction, i really prefer for him to talk about that. >> you make in your child, you talk like a son who is now i've -- now nine appellee. how is he handling all this a splash with the book coming out?
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sort of the reminders of the time in your life. how is he handling all this? >> on the one side, on the one hand, he's a a typical nine-year-old where it's all about him. as i was setting up he said what's going on? what's for dinner? and sort of wanders off. in some ways i think it's a bit of a benefit that for the moment he said he was conscious in the world he sees his parents always come he's used to photographers being around. in fact, i write a story in the book early on when he was like three if i remember correctly he stopped stop when the dinner and said mommy, why do strange talk to you and daddy on the street? we didn't really know what to say in a moment. he said you work for them. he knows his parents are public. i think he does have some memories of photographers chasing us down the street. when it told in mommy has a book
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coming out, the first thing he said, does that mean those people are going to come back? i know he does have some memory of it by the help our intention is to be sources of truth for our child, and i hope when he yu reach this book when he is old enough that he will look back and you'll be proud of his money. >> one of the scenes in writing, in writing that hillary clinton's career, is the ongoing struggle that women leaders have been charged i have a look and how they modulate their voice and not so much by what they do and how they think. you're right at some length about how you witnessed that firsthand in your time in working with hillary clinton. >> it's why i chose to write it out all the different periods and how sexism did play a role, and, frankly, everyone of her campaigns and my first kind of
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experience with it was watching her in the debate in her senate campaign where they're at the debate and he marches over with a piece of paper demanding that she sign it, and is the first time you saw this sort of in-your-face, in that moment we thought it was back there we thought it should we dispute we thought it should you with strong and we went back thinking oh, my god what's going to happen. it turned out to be aired to benefit. but this constant, in 2008, every time someone made a a comment about her clothes how she spoke or i don't like her jacket or her hair is so big, we laughed i felt, i feel like a society in 2008 we sort of giggled it off. of course. this is the price you paid to be in the game, and that was, including a spirit we were in the game and we played. obviously at you when knows
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ended. it ended very well in the end and president obama was obviously a phenomenal candidate from day one. i write a lot about what it was like interacting with him and his team. it was incredible but 2016, fast-forward, it was unbelievable. it was everything. in fact, the story that people constantly bring up that to write in the book is the consultant said she looks angry when she gives her speeches and you should put a picture of her grandchild so which looks down at her speech she is going to see happy and thus she will appear happy. i learned in that campaign you're never going to please everybody. it was impossible. then fast-forward to 2020, it was hard. we had all these qualified women for running for president and until we have a national reckoning to see women as leaders, but it is very hard for them to be executives in this country and forget
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commander-in-chief, it's a hill to climb, for sure. >> the margins from the book is worklife balance or the lack there of or the pursuit of their of. you worked around the clock for the better part of 25 years all while raising your son, dealing with what is going on with anthony. what people around you who threaten your life on occasion. what would you say to someone who is listening who loves their job, loves her family and is just struggling kind to keep it all together? >> when i was a little girl my father would say, i opened one of the chapters with his sinker he always had a good life is a balanced life. i did not follow that advice. the chapter where i talk about making a choice, get did ths brand-new job at the white house, have a family wedding in europe, i get a call saying to undergo to argentina?
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that's my fork in the road. i stay at this wedding, be with my family or do i get on a plane and leave for work? i chose the plane and i chose the plane every single time. and in part it is because i had a job that was all-consuming. it was about someone else's life. i told myself when the clintons left the white house that the day i woke up and did not want to come to work is a day i would give notice. that day was 20 years ago so i had the extraordinary privilege of having -- in hindsight even after jordan was born i write of scenes i would get polled, todd, here am going out to create a world that's better for him so i am going to leave. it was hard so you guys i was give, balance is good, balance is important. i did learn. hillary is the one who said to me, i write in 2017 that my sons' father is about to go to jail and a moderate and she says
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no, focus on your child. i think balance is good. >> the other thing to write about is the power of female friendships and you mention hillary land just a few minutes ago. talk a little bit about that, about what you saw in the power of what you learned about the power of female friendships. >> i feel as though, going back to the point i was making when we were talking about being very to my job, which i was, i took my friends are granted for much of my 20s and 30s. i would land at 11:00 at night, it was also my schedule against i was working all the time. it's only now as an adult i recognize i rarely made them priorities. i was always a priority. it was only when i started losing friends over choices i've made specifically to stay in my marriage, i defend my husband and a lost friend over that.
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i realized friendship is precious and we need it. i think obama girlfriends even on the book to her. my girlfriends come along for the ride, they grab asylumee picture top. it's nice to have somebody at 11:00 at night to text and say i'm just feeling low, let's go eat. those are precious, precious relationships and i'm lucky to have a bunch of hillary land around me. >> you've got to have your tribe. on january 20 januarl watched, harris being sworn in as our first south asian female vice president and i wonder for you as a outpatient you know yourself what that moment was like for you?
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>> i had goosebumps up and down my legs even if you said those words. it was so incredible, awe-inspiring about the possibilities, just the power. when she walked out i just couldn't, i could not sit still and represents everything that is so right about the possibility of our future, and we we're all really proud of her. all of our brown girls after we're really proud of our vice president. >> you asked earlier this week in one of your tv interviews if you would consider running for office yourself and you didn't totally rule it out so i'm curious what that might look like for you? >> tracey, i have to jelly that was my virgin interview. i was so nervous. i was so cold. i was shaking and so i can fast, i approached my whole book tour,
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it is to have been cut my epilogue originally included all the women, and men, who inspired me to write my story and one of them is shonda. when she whataburger whole approach that your was this is my year of saying yes. i'm stealing that from shonda. so i am thinking i'm being brilliant on the today show and say this is my year to said yes, and then i actually don't think i heard her and then she said this at mean run office? i said yes. but i really, the answer is no. i tried to clean that up this week. >> last question before we go to her audience questions, and that is you write in the book on the other side of all that you've been through, and you have been through a lot, that you find two things, resilience number one and hopefully bliss.
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the question is, where are you on that journey? >> i'm on my journey to finding bliss. i don't have it yet. i sort had a lot of entertainment and you're referring to the street and bookworms in india where fortuneteller said you got a lot of entertainment in your life. there's a a difference between entertainment and bless. i am on that path and when my colleagues told me this morning that he has never seen me so light and unburdened, even done doing right now with you the thing that terrifies me the most, which is getting out there. i think maybe i'm really on a good path to finding bliss. >> on that note let's go to questions from the audience. first, i'm so inspired by your strength or i do want to ask what his relationship with anthony now and easy seeking help? >> my relationship with anthony
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is good, and in that we are both committed to raising our child. it's work. he is regularly in therapy and regularly takes care of his mental health which i think it's very important that he recognizes and he is doing the work that we're both very present for our child and i'm glad i sent has two parents. i didn't have a choice when i lost my father. >> speaking of your son, joe and asks what does your son currently understand about his father's passed? >> we had chosen to share with them as age-appropriate, and he is as we discussed he is nine, and easy he gets older he will have more access to information on the internet. we are seeking, we've already sought professional help in terms of how to talk to him about it and we feeling good about that, that source, that
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the structure of support we put in place. >> question from david is is given the results of the election on tuesday what direction should the democratic party go at this point? referring no doubt to the results in virginia where the democrat lost that race. jersey, phil murphy one and a mixed bag in between, so what do you think about the direction in which the democratic party should go? >> while look, joe biden's administration is trying to do some very difficult things, and we've had these bills stuck in congress their kind in the forward and understandably people are frustrated at how long it's taken. it's important work and they are trying to do some big things. unprecedented things in some ways. and covid is obviously not help. but it do think i like to remind myself that the year after, you
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know, a president from one party is elected, it's not unusual for us to suffer in the next election. we just have to keep our enthusiasm, our energy. the other side is more motivated obviously but we have some work to do. we have some work to do. we have to keep people engaged. the administration has to show results, and they will. they are working on it. i think once we get a little more progress will be having a slightly different conversation. >> question about your background here. tom asks what did you did in college and what led you to apply to be an intern at the white house? how did hillary come to interview you for that position? >> tom, i never ask a got an interview with hillary. this is one of the things she now likes to deny. i was okay, i wasn't amazing but when i was a teenager and i
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write about this in the book my dream was to -- [inaudible] i had a friend at the union who was interning at the white house or michael curry and she said i'm working in the press office. you should apply. she brought me the internship. i never thought i would give the internship at the white house. filled up the forms, went home to saudi arabia, came back and was placed in the first ladies office and it changed my life. it wasn't like plant a but plan b boy did it turn out to be pretty spectacular. >> dennis asks how did you meet anthony to begin with? >> anthony i i met on martha's vineyard in the summer of -- bill clinton just lost the white house, and it was this balmy summer weekend, and a member of hillary land comes over and says this charming man wants to meet you. i was always working.
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i never gavel in these flirtations from then picked this man comes over and sure enough it's this congressman who is hillary's colleague and it wasn't my first site. he made this impression and we would see each other often on and we became friends first before it was anything else that that was a first time met him. >> laura asks you have any advice about healing from betrayal, trump? >> laura, the best advice i can give is only device i -- that works for me which is yet take the time to heal. i for a long time did not allow myself to anything but anger in that earnest and i compartmentalized a lot of my feelings and it is only when i allowed to feel and to forgive myself, and it took time. at least for me it took time. >> ellen asks how you navigate raising a mixed race child in
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the post trump america? >> we live in europe which i think is a blessing in some ways and thankfully it's not been a challenge in terms of how we navigate it. but it is something will have to think about particularly after some of the as you said the death threats and the hate mail that i have received. it's not something -- i don't think about, i do think about it. i just did the best i can to protect my son. one of the reasons why there are no pictures of him in the book. >> sheila asks, how hard was it to let go of the unfairness that you have endured and not be better? >> i was bitter for a long time and as you read the book you will see it almost killed me. i think the only person come the
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only person it was hurting and affected with me. i didn't think, you know, my best self and my best mother and the best mother i could be, but i had to let go here i i had o let go and understand. i had to learn the truth, process it and move on. it works for me. >> wilfred asks, what are the books you love most going up and who do like to request i know you talked about at least one of those books. >> i love memoirs. i'm staring at a stack of memoirs that it want to get through. don lindeman, kal penn, they're all sitting right here. i love people's stories. i opened the book saying i grew up surrounded by stories. when i was a little girl i really love all the jane austen novels and it pretty much read everything. i read the brothers -- my father
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brought back a lot of novels written by african writers, and i really, isil to just absorbed a little bit of everything. but i would probably say jane austen. pride and prejudice, since insensibility, i kind of fell into those when i was a little girl. >> robert asks in writing your book what was the hardest and happiest memory you had? >> thank you for the question. the happiest was when my little boy him out into this world and that's why i write about that experience, like becoming a mother. you can't explain it in tell it happens, and then you get it. certainly that was happiest. and the hardest -- now here going to get me emotional. you know, this book really is a love letter to my dad. often when i was 17.
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he was diagnosed with renal failure when i was two and he was told get five years to live. the only time i broke down was when i talk about my dad. really, this book is for him and i want to share this book with immense if this is what he did and hope you are proud of me. so that has been hard. everything related to my father especially losing him, that was probably the hardest, personally the hardest part. >> a follow-up to that is what would be seen a kids book in the future? >> robert, if you think this is a good idea, maybe somebody from the publishing house is watching. >> you never know. >> this book was much longer. they can get. i love the process of writing, so maybe. maybe this is part of my urethane yes. it is so much easier than answering the politics question. i like the suggestion.
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>> robert ads, your dad is proud of you, he says. let's see, oh, my goodness, so many questions from our audience here. let's see -- >> this audience asks excellent questions. >> tom wants to know if you'd ever work for another female presidential candidate if you were asked? >> i have been there, i've done that as i know what it takes. i don't know that i could. i will say this though. if you know presidential candidate asked me to help her, the answer would be yes. >> let's see, will jordan becoming to the san francisco bay area for a books signing? >> i am doing a virtual event, a sources go virtual event with kal penn on tuesday but cannot doing about it in person if it's there so unfortunately i won't be there. but if i do show up may be more
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can connect me to you and maybe i could sign your book. >> let's see, , what else do we have here? how did you like being on the view, and also, i'm sad the book tour is not in person. >> i am sad, too. i would much rather have been next to tracey talking to all of you in person, but it is, but i'm thrilled there is a book event at all, so let me show my gratitude for that. and -- wait, what was the first part of the question? >> being on the view. >> i loved the view. it didn't even feel like being on camera. it just felt like -- i enjoyed the conversation. it felt like having coffee with girlfriends. >> thanks for your candor and for your service. would you walk us through your day at work?
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would love to know what you can tell us, a day in the life. >> my days started very early. these days, depends on which section like you're writing about dash asking about. i change my partners to make sure my schedule works so i can drop my son off to school everyday. that is not been the case this week unfortunately with all these book events. usually in a pre-come with time i'm just running from meeting to meeting. i usually don't eat lunch or i'm off on a plane somewhere. covid has changed my work schedule rather dramatically. i spent a lot of time on zoom. but who knows? after this book to and hopefully the world is back open again i will have a different answer for you. >> mike asks what's the best piece of advice that you have ever been given? >> i think the best piece of advice i've ever been given have to go back to my parents, this notion of a good life being a
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balanced life, finding the possibilities and everything, doing a little bit of everything, not getting television about things which i attended to do. i'm trying to live intentionally by that advice now. i didn't before. >> before we say goodbye just a couple of comments here. someone says omg, you are amazing on the view. and many thank yous for your service, and there's one i wanted to make sure that i read. it says, we need you to run for office to guess the much experience and the future is female, so there you have it. >> i agree. all those comments are really, i'm really humbled, thank you so much. >> huma abedin, it is an absolute delight to have an opportunity to talk with you. thank you so much writing this book. i know that a lot of people have been inspired and encouraged by
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your honesty and your transparency in the book, and i'm sure as we have talked about for a lot of people really have connections. so thank you so much writing it and making time to talk with us here at the free library tonight. what a delight. >> tracey, i've enjoyed of this conversation much. it went by so quickly. i loved all the questions and i'm really thrilled to have been with you all tonight. thank you for giving me part of your eating. >> before we say goodbye what you think all the folks at the free library, andy, laura, jason, the author is instinct for bringing all of us together. we thank all of you for joining us to help you from the conversation to the insightful and encouraging. have a great weekend everybody and we look forward to seeing you next time. >> good night. >> washington unfiltered, c-span in your pocket. download c-span now today.
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