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candidates for the u.s. senate from pennsylvania that are participating in tonight's spotlight pa debate. you may applaud, as each candidate is introduced. going left to right. lieutenant governor john fetterman. [applause] state representative malcolm kenyatta. [applause] councilwoman alexandria khalil. [applause] and congressman conor lamb. [applause] i'm going to take a seat as we go over the rules. now, i mentioned applauding as we were introducing the candidates but one of the rules we have throughout the 90 minutes of the debate is that you hold your applause or cheering or reacting until the end of the debate.

candidates are allotted 62nd opening statements and a 62nd closing statement. most of the debate is divided into a series of topics with a question posed to a specific candidate followed by each of the candidates answering the same question. the moderator and the questioners are permitted to ask follow-up questions. candidates must wait to be asked a question by the moderator or a question or, must be caught on open discussion before speaking. we will have each candidate answer in order. candidates may not interrupt other candidates or moderators. they are allotted 30 seconds to respond but only after the moderator calls on them. let me introduce you to our journalist tonight. the candidates will be questioned by the journalist,

julia, of the philadelphia inquirer. paul, of trip life. an ev of penn life. [applause] notice we have three women journalists asking questions tonight. so, we will start by having the candidates make their opening statements and we will go left to right, before we start asking the questions. lieutenant governor, john fetterman, you have 60 seconds. mr. fetterman: hello everybody. i am john fetterman and i'm running for the united states senate here in our beautiful commonwealth. i would like to point out that running for the u.s. senate here is a statewide affair. i am the only candidate on the democratic or republican side that has run in one state here in pennsylvania. i'm running a campaign based on core democratic values, like

making sure our minimum wage is something you can live on with dignity and security, that holding up the universal voting rights and protections is critical to maintaining our democracy and making sure we push back against the big lie. women's reproductive freedom is a nonnegotiable as a sacred right. the union way of life and promoting union values is absolutely critical, not only to our middle class but to our country as a whole as well. if you trust me with your vote in may you will also always have my vote in washington dc we are running a true grassroots campaign across pennsylvania in every one of the 67 counties. rep. kenyatta: thank you, good evening. i'm excited to be here. most pennsylvanians will agree with me that the senate is broken. it turns out, if you want to change the senate, you have to change the senators. in this moment, we need more

than just another politician asking for your vote. we need somebody who understands your life. i grew up in a working or family in north philadelphia. my dad was a social worker and my mom was a home health care aide. they separated when i was young. so what that meant for me is, i learned a six different places by the time i graduated high school. i got my first job at 12, washing this is -- dishes at a soul food restaurant and i watched my mom worked 12-16 hours a day, come home after making sure the folks she served got their medicine on time only to have to ration her insulin. if we're going to win this race we're going to need a candidate that can go anywhere and everywhere and speak with the level urgency and authenticity about what is broken. i look forward to being the candidate. thank you. councilwoman khalil: good evening pennsylvania it is a great honor to be here.

my name is alexandria khalil, call me alex. i am the daughter of palestinian immigrants. i am the counselor, the mom of a dyslexic son, an activist, lawyer and a worker. i can tell you the reason i am running is because i am one of you. every day i go up, i held the business, i have gone up to businesses that are no longer here. they are bankrupt, gone, the jobs have been sent abroad. one of the greatest things that has happened to me since i started this race as i got to know pennsylvania. i got to know that you are an amazing state and every day is a special moment when i am in your company and pleasure. i want to tell you, between philadelphia and pittsburgh, is a society and country, the state is rich and generous and kind.

i hope you will consider me in the primary. thank you very much. congressman lamb: thank you very much for watching these debates and breathe life into our democracy. we very badly need it. people all over the state can afford less and less on the same paycheck and same social security check. the future of our democracy may depend on the struggles that they are going through right now. if i will run a campaign that is focused on making your social security check bigger, beyond what medicare can take away. i will talk about how this specific job, my vote in the senate, can make the price of drugs go down. make out of pockets -- pocket costs go down, student loan debt go down, childcare cost down, 7% of what you earn every month. you would not be nominating a twitter account, with me. i have gotten results on every single one of those results mentioned in the house of representatives.

that is why democrats and swing voters have voted for me three times. they will do it again if you give me the chance. >> we are going to get into our questioning now. the candidates have 60 seconds to respond. there could be some follow-ups as we go along. representative kenyatta, we're going to start with you. julia will ask the first question. julia: even some democratic economist said the biden administration spent too much and his policies have contribute into inflation. do you agree and what specific policies would you support in the senate to combat inflation? rep. kenyatta: thank you so much for that question. folks at home have heard this over and over again. whenever we invest in working people, and actual people, you hear how it is unaffordable and does not make sense. you did not hear that when it

was time to bail out the big banks, or when it is time to give another tax break to someone who was well-connected. when we do things like the child tax credit which lifted millions of kids out of the poverty, you hear hemming and halloween from people who are fine with the status quo. here's the reality. i want to hear from the economists what they think we ought not invest in. do they think we should not do anything about the cost of childcare? should we ignore the fact that people are paying more the pump, should we do nothing about that? i'm not sure what investments they think we made in the american rescue plan that did not make sense. we want to lower costs and build things here at home. we have to make sure we are increasing people's paychecks and that is what i'm going to do at the u.s. senate. >> follow-up for just a second. the question was, did that investment, contribute to inflation? rep. kenyatta: i don't think

that's true. your sing inflation across the world. every country did not make the same investments we did in the american rescue plan. the things we want to do, you take a look at the american innovation and competition act, that is something that would help us build our things at home that would deal with some of the supply chain issues that have led to rising costs. the pandemic has led to rising cost as well. what i have been talking about is how do we lower costs for prescription drugs, childcare, health care. these are things i can help people in their pocketbooks. councilwomen khalil: excellent points. i want to point out, to answer your question no i do not. what you have not asked is about is gouging. this weekend, i met a gentleman who was an independent. he said to me, biden lost me. i go, why? what is he doing about inflation and gas pricing? and i said you understand there

is price gouging going on. and he said, why is he not doing something about it? that is why we have inflation we have rice gouging going on and no one is calling out the enormous -- price gouging going on and no one is calling out the bonuses ceos and profitability ceos are getting. no company has gone bankrupt during this inflation. on the contrary, we are seeing a record profits and ceo pay. who is paying the american people are paying. they are paying through gas. i'm here to tell the president and i myself will act very decisively. go after the price counters. >> i just said time but i will follow up. what evidence do you have that there is price gouging? councilwomen khalil: when you have more profits. we are more profitable, our companies are more profitable and ceo pay is higher now than

it was before the pandemic. before even wages were high. seven dollars an hour, $10 an hour, inflation, their profits are higher now. that is price gouging. >> congressman an, -- lamb, 60 seconds, whether you think the biden administration expects too much. how would you get it under control? congressman lamb: i voted for the cares act, covid relief money on the american rescue plan, that infuse a lot of money into the american economy at the time where we needed it. there is a debate right now among these academic types about whether the ration is driven by supply, meaning the pandemic and the war. two things that are no one's fault in the room or the government or driven by the extra money that came as an extra result of the pandemic. it is a valid debate. there are strong points. what i would come back to is in january of 2021, nobody knew

what turns were left in the road of the pandemic. how many people would be left out of work with no on a plum in benefits, how many people would get evicted if they did not get the last stimulus check. i was ask republicans, what would you have done? we note the -- we know they would've taken the people -- the money away from the people who need it the most. that is where we have to talk about the cost we can control and the fact that we are trying to raise taxes to shrink the deficit. >> lieutenant governor federman. -- fettrman. mr. fetterman: i'm going to say no. i believe, i'm going to come down to the side of investments in the middle class and families. that is what the american rescue plan was predicated on, making these investments on whether it was childcare or structure to make sure that people were being upper lee supported during the pandemic -- properly supported

during the pandemic. inflation is a tax on working families. the biden administration understands this and is taking all of the appropriate steps to continue to attack it. the most important thing we can do is drive down the cost of fuel prices. people notice that when they fill up their vehicles. suspending the gas tax and making sure we produce more energy of our own here in the u.s. also, we are developing a sense of inflation as well because of the logistical log jam, because we are not making enough stuff here in the country. we must create more manufacturing to straighten out the logistical and supply chain issues that help contribute to this inflation logjam. >> thank you. we have our next question and it goes to alexandria khalil. >> president biden said in a state of the union address that the answer to rising violent crime is not to defund the police or to fund police. what specific policies would you

support in the senate to fight crime and gun violence? councilwomen khalil: i do not support defunding the police. i support renewal of the economic and mental health of a community. we need to do that. we need to bring back jobs, as all of my colleagues have talked about. we have to start there. we have to bring back and invest in mental health care. we have to invest in our schools and education. we need to have pennsylvanians, especially those who are committing the crime, to have faith and hope again in our society. we have to crackdown on crime, we need to get tough on crime. we can remember that we can fight crime and work on criminal justice. i think we can sit back and properly fund our police, make sure they are paid well, make sure their pensions are paid and make sure that our schools are properly funded and there is job

training and community centers are open and we can invest in our communities. by doing that we can sit back and fight crime. >> to support a federal assault weapon ban, and how would that be enforced? councilwomen khalil: i do not support assault weapons. i support a ban. i do not want to take away those who already own their assault weapons. i would like to do a buyback, if possible. if you bought your own assault weapon legally, i'm not taking what people's arms. i do not want us to go out and some more. but if you bought it legally i have no problem with that. i would like to see locks on guns and safes. i would like to see proper educations in terms of guns, but that's not the issue. you talk about assault weapons, what we are singer handguns. >> let me follow up on that. we talk about the number of gunowners in the state.

one thing the one think -- one thing someone who was familiar with weapons, what is an assault weapon? councilwomen khalil: they are military style weapons. we have a second amendment right to own a gun. to me it is not owning -- to meet -- the illegal sale of guns, gun trafficking those are the things we need to be focused on. how is a 14-year-old getting that gun? that is what we need to ask ourselves. what is the situation? in my mind, a 15-year-old, 18-year-old, 19-year-old is committing this. >> the president was right when he said that, as far as -- i feel an obligation to say that the only people who ever voted against funding and the police were the republican parties, when they voted against the american rescue plan that had

$350 billion for local government. which in my home county, went to the police. that was overtime money and it police our money. as far as what we need to do about violent crime, there is a shift that has to take place where we focused a lot more on firearm trafficking. almost all of the serious shootings that you read about in our inner cities are committed by someone who is not legally entitled to possess the firearm. ice to prosecute these cases for living -- i use to prosecute these cases for living. i want to get on the committee to help increase the budget for the atf and training and resources available in that agency to take that on. >> --mr. fetterman: i am the only republican on the others that has been in charge of a police department, for 14 years as the mayor. i fought to increase their wages

and ensure their benefits. i fought to increase budgets consistently for your. i am incredibly proud of the work we achieved working together. we have a community that had a significant gun violence program, and the thing i was most proud of as a mayor, was stopping all homicides for a peer ebay -- a period of five-and-a-half years. we did it by creating a affect -- an effective police model, we had to make investments in the police force and make sure we are practicing the best kind of community policing to get there. i am proud to say was reelected four times for a 75% black, that had a deep suspicion of our police department to go five-and-a-half years without a loss of life through a very effective strategy of adding resources to the community, but effective police strategies as well. >> let me ask you before that

five-and-a-half year period, how many homicides did it have on average each year? mr. fetterman: you can always add it, it is a small community. it is about 75% black and it was written off as a hopeless place. i came there to teach ged classes to students. i ended up getting into my running for public office because to my students were gunned down. it was common to have these kind of murders. that is what got invited -- violence brought me into my career public service. >> how many homicides in a year? mr. fetterman: a couple every year. rep. kenyatta: thank you so much. i sort of reject this notion, as a black man in this country, that the only two options i have is to have no police or to have police core not held accountable, when they do something they should not do,

specifically as we have seen tragic instances of police violence. what i want is the cs making investments in things that actually make -- is the invest that i talk about all the type -- you have a health care, affordable prescription drug that you can retire with the level of dignity. communities that have the things i laid out, those are safer communities. if we want safer communities we need to invest in people and make sure they have good jobs and stable housing. those are things that deal with the root cause of crime. we need to pass many common sense gun safety measures, including a number of which i voted for, and introduced. >> let me follow up on that. what you just laid out, about jobs, education, investing in, the community we have known that for a long time, most people

have known that for a long time. we are in an emergency right now. we are setting records for the number of homicides in allegheny county had a horrific incident a couple of weeks ago. what can you do in the senate? which of the senate, the president, what should they be doing right now? rep. kenyatta: we have known what to do for a long time. that is a problem with washington, d.c.. we are not at a lack of good ideas, but a lack of political leadership. it is interesting what you heard the lieutenant governor say. he talked about the community leasing model. if he is not the mayor, the model does not work. he says you have never seen it since he left. i want to understand it, what you are doing that was not actually a policy proposal, that lasted beyond your time in office. his important for people to know that the woman who are placed you as mayor endorsed me. >> since he mentioned you in particular, lieutenant governor.

mr. fetterman: you made a good point. what i would do, first of all we need to eliminate the filibuster in the senate. if you want comprehensive gun control legislation in the senate you have to eliminate the filibuster otherwise you are waiting on 10 republicans to vote, but the democrats to make sure we do not have weapons of war that is first and foremost. we actually created -- we open playgrounds and basketball courts. we had a balance report. >> i will say indirect. >> they have their own police department and i sit on a public safety committee. i understand police department. councilwomen khalil: 36,000 people drive through the twon every day. we have our own trade stations and buses.

so what does that mean? we believe it community policing. our police officers are out there. we properly fund our police department their pay. we make sure, that her schools are properly funded and our kids go to college. >> we asked this of congressman lamb. >> ken russia's ongoing war in the ukraine -- what is your position of sending troops there? would you support the agreement that requires the u.s. to said nato allies with? congressman lamb: it has existed since long before i was congressman -- when we were attacked on 9/11, they were

spotted by setting their troops to 9/11 to risk their lives for us. if data country gets attacked -- if a nato country gets attacked, you are going to believe i will support said u.s. troops. they are sitting in poland, romania, all of these places because if america is your friend, that is what you get. there is the worst at a be. with respect to ukraine, the stated policy of our government should be that we should help ukrainians with the work. ed said puts it at his army back. we are gradually at leading to the type of military we give them. vehicles, artillery, drones, antiaircraft weapons. we increase that and use better resources. the key is we do not give up. councilwomen khalil: i would like to follow up on that. while you mention the notion of america continuing to escalate to win -- to help ukraine win.

you did not answer the question if you believe troops from eunice should go to ukraine -- u.s. should go to ukraine? congressman lamb: you asked if i felt troops from nato should go which i answered. right now, that is not called for. it is not needed. what they need from us as a military aid that would get worse. if russia attacks a nato ally in the course of its attack on ukraine, it is a different situation. the requirement to defend our nato allies, good have a said troops to all sorts of places but that is not the situation we are in. >> lieutenant government fetterman. mr. fetterman: we should not be sending american troops to ukraine. we should h during their unjust invasion, war of aggression by russia,

i want to be clear but we cannot and i believe president biden is on an excellent job engaging in a hot war with russia. we can't afford to take that risk . the bottom line is we can add humanitarian aid. we can have weapons e systems but if we're mindful we need to remember we are here to help the ukrainians. nothing would harm the ukrainians more in my opinion and us sliding into a hot war having troops on the ground in ukraine and escalating into the ironically world war iii >> would you support the second part of her question? >> as congressman lamb pointed out the nato have existed as long as the organization has. >> representative transects. >> article 5 is obviously negotiated, we have to stand by it and of course it was in is dumb enough and reckless enough to go into a nato country obviously that will make the crisis even worse that if you look at what's happening right now ,

vladimir putin is plate paying a real cost for his barbaric war. what we need is a ratcheting down tensions and pressure. what we need is a cease-fire. we do that by continuing the approach of the biden administration has taken and that's why i'm so proud to have endorsed him earlier than anybody on this stage because i believe to be ready for a moment like this we brought together our nato allies. just like sweet they said even more resources to ukraine to make sure they can defend themselves and push back . president zelensky talked about the number of areas. reinforces have recaptured. this was a big mistake on the part of vladimir putinand what i've called for is the expansion of nato with finland when i was looking at right now . >> i complement my colleagues here and i agree with their stance.

i do not believe we should send troops to the ukraine one of the things i do want to point out and speaking to the community and i've gone out to the rural areas, i want to the north and montgomery county . everyone supports helping ukraine. one of the thingsthat struck a lot of americans is when it comes to helping americans , there's an area in norristown that's flooded. there's an area in philadelphia that's flooded. and there told well, if you have a small business you got to go out and take a loan. and they see the hundreds of millions of dollars going to ukraine. no one says that's bad. no one but you just asked here about tthe rising cost of inflation because we are hehelping americans. i'd like everyone to remember when it comes to helping americans let's be okay with helping our fellow americans and not the rising cost of inflation.

>> our next question will be asked by julie larusso of the philadelphia inquirer. >> the united states supreme court appears poised to overturn or weaken row versus wade. texas has banned most abortions in the state and the court has a signal that may uphold a mississippi law that banned abortions after 15 weeks. what policies would you support to protect abortion access and are there any limits on abortion you would find appropriate ? >> uequestion and let me say that i am profoundly proud to be the first line of defense in the veto chain in pennsylvania should the owner will be unable to perform his duty to veto down and strike down the texas laws that the state legislature constantly sends a. i believe a woman's reproductive freedom is sacred and i believe it's settled case law and we can never go backwards on that regard. if i'm in the senate i would

immediately support the first campaign to support the elimination of the filibuster to make sure we codify women's reproductive freedom in law to make sure that even if the supreme court does go down that road and eliminate or revoke row versus wade we already existing lay codified into law and make sure we cancel back. abortions are going to continue in america whether it's legal or not. they just won't be safe if they're illegal and we can't ever go back to that. we just can't . >> are there any limits on abortion? >> i don't believe so. that's between a woman and her physician and it's certainly not between me or any politician. we settled this decades ago and the fact that these states are trying to repeal it is just, we have to push back against that because it started in texas.

i want to say i'm proud to say if i am putting on a supreme court justice is a core litmus test that roe versus wade and a woman's reproductive freedom must come first. >> a litmus test. that means that someone says that they question roe versus wade they don't have your vote? >> they don't. if they don't supportroe versus wade they would not support my vote . i feel that strongly about women's reproductive freedom. >> representative. >> this is where being a legislator actually matters because that is i've actually introduced legislation to deal with the fact that there are so many instances right now in pennsylvania where there are barriers to women being able to have access to basic healthcare. and this is healthcare. at the federal level we need to pass the women's health protection.

the bipartisan caucus introduced legislation called the pennsylvania women's rs health protection act to get rid of the barriers that currently exist for pennsylvanian women under current law. the states have been the battleground for this issue for a long time and because the supreme court has refused to step in and uphold decade-long precedents, they have practically already overruled row. that has already happened. so whether it was as an activist, the first man elected to the board of the national realization for women in philadelphia or its as alegislature i've set up for this basic right and i will every step of the way . there's always a limit but that limit is between a woman and her doctor . >> one follow up on that since the lieutenant governor brought it up . >> that's a litmus test. >> councilwoman cleo. >> khalil.

>> it helps to be the daughter of a woman. you asked about late-term abortions and i'd like to start there. when i was a walittle girl my mother was pregnant and the child had water in the brain and the doctors told my mom my mother's life is at risk and its was healthcare. we really believe you should have an abortion and my mother said absolutely not and this is where what else would i do? i agreewith my colleagues but what else would i do ? my motherwas offered amazing care . she was put into the hospital and we the children were little. five, four and three. we were given a nurse to take care of her, to take us to school. to me it is not just, it's real. it happened to my family and my mother made a decision which was her choice and from there the state of new york

showed what pro-choice is about so iwould make sure we have pre-and postnatal care . >> the follow-up and ask all of you this question. litmus test. >> definitely, think about what happened to my mom if she had a choice. she could have said yes. either way, if she didn't have it and dshe didn't get the care she would have died so yes, abortion rights are healthcare but it must be included with pre-and postnatal care. it must be included with nutrition and what happens with a family as an emergency and needs someone to care for their small children while mother is in the hospital trying to give birth . we have a ridiculously high mortality rate in pennsylvania. >> congressman lamb. >> the first time i ran erfor office was in the congressional district that trump one by 19 percentage

points that heavily favor the republicans and the week mbefore the election a writer from a conservative newsmagazine jumped out at me on the street and stuck a microphone in my face and said you haven't said yet where you stand on late-term abortions and my instinctive answer was if a right is a right it's a right all the way through pregnancy and then that has always been my position. this is a constitutional right women have and deserve to have and continue to have and the question in this campaign is not who believed what the longest, it's who can actually get through this election year in 2022, win this race and cast that vote? without winning this senate seat there will be no women's health protection act, none. it will be left, we won't even get to put another justice on the supreme courtey if we don't win the senate seat . those are the stakes and i hope our viewers need to think about that. >> question for everyone. litmus test for a supreme court nominee. >> the litmus test is settled constitutional law.

so is the right to get a miranda warning when you're arrested. they're all at the same level of strength meaning they have been upheld tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of times in the last 50 years this is settled . i would only vote for a justice that supports it . >> something a little different changing up from our questions. we call this a lightning around. i don't know how much of a lightning around it is . it's 30 seconds as opposed to 60 seconds and i think representative kenyatta it's your turn first. if you could ask one of your opponents question what would be ?qu >> it would be question i asked john a couple of days ago when he had a chance to think of whether or not the lieutenant governor is going to apologize here, now we're in carlisle but maybe you had a a change of heart for chasin down an unarmed black man with a 20gauge shotgunpulling

into his chest . i'm not going to hold my breath for john's answer . i'm sure you won't apologize .as he has multiple times but here's the problem. powerful men like john are used to having to play by a different set of rules. he wasn't held haaccountable since he was the mayor and he's not held accountable now . >> that's just not what happened and i want everybody at home to understand how personal the issue of gun violence was to me . product for context is a 75 percent black community that had a significant gunviolence program. i came there to be a instructor, ran for mayor because two of my students were gunned down in a violent way . during my time as mayor i'm proud to say we addressed stop the killing because i've always believed community policing. >> time. >> but did you point the gun? >> i did not. >> the police report at the time said it.

with folks like john any type of accountability feels like persecution. john is not the victim here and at the time said he thought he committed a crime and uses his reelection as another justification for why he doesn't have toapologize. john had 186 votes in that election . >> let me be clear. i was reelected in overwhelming fashion in the community 75 percentblack . i'm not sure why you'd want to diminish a small marginal but the point of the matter is that the people that reelected me no that's not what this is about. i never pointed a weapon and anyone and everyone in town understood that protection of the community was always in my heart. that's what it was always consistently about. >> councilwoman khalil you can ask anyone in question. >> what would you do, to

mister kenyatta. you want to and friday. i believe you said. so what do you propose. what kind of energy source would you use for manufacturing and keeping manufacturing in pennsylvania s . >> thank you for asking that question. if you want an environmental champion as our next senator clearly there's only one person on the stage. my position has been clear we should not approve new permits for new drilling. we know right now even across the country we have 9000 plus permits right now that are approved where there is no drilling so companies who already have those permits they can do more drilling if they want to right now. we need to stop acting as if bigpolluters care about their workers . those big polluters don't

give a damn. >> i asked how are you going to bring manufacturing? what will you do for manufacturing? we need energy to manufacture. you can't do what we don't currently have and we get rid of thefracking, we get rid of well how are we going to manufacture key jobs in pennsylvania ? >> congressman. >> my question is also for the lieutenant governor. one of my greatest concerns about his candidacy is i don't believe he can appeal to the types of swing voters we need to win in november. these are the people i've been campaigning around for o the last four years. they elected me in districts that favor republicans and if anything play an outsized role in a midterm election. they don't like chaos. they don't like instability and they're very concerned about both inflation and the

overall size of the national debt so my question for john is simple . do you still support medicare for all? would you fovote for the medicare for all bill after mark. >> thank you conor. i support universal healthcare. i support healthcare as a fundamental basic human right. i support ever means gets us there whether that's the affordable care act or the public option, whether that's medicare for all. i'm for allowing congress and the federal government to negotiate for lower drug prices. i'm for lowering the medicare eligibility age. i'm for adding vision, dental and hearing as well.si am for making sure americans have greater access to healthcare . >> but to his question medicare for all? >> i said whatever mechanism gets us closer to healthcare as a fundamental human right i'm going to support. if connor wants to be for the

insurance companies that his right but i'm for healthcare and making sure it's a fundamental human right every american and making sure we can negotiate for better drug prices is at the heart ofthat immediately . >> you said yes know and i'd like a yes no as well. you said getting closer . does that mean medicare for all? >> it means whatever's in front of us as a congress to get greater access to health wo care for america and my vote is decisive . i wouldabsolutely supported . >> i'd like to say i supported. i support medicare for all. i can answer because you know, this weekend i met a woman who didn't have healthcare. that's real. it's not a joke. >> lieutenant governor. it's your opportunity to ask a question. >> connor, is for

representative lam. how do you feel about your endorsement, joe manchin endorsing you and would you vote similarly to him in the senate? my fear is that i think we have one joe manchin is enough in the senate and his endorsement of you in the race i found troubling because i absolutely disagree with his voting record. >> to be honest when john wh said that i'm not sure what he's referring to. when i was a member of congress i helped fund raise with many senators and other members including senator manchin. and the question of how we vote is already answered by our actual vote. we both have voting records. i voted for the john lewis

votingrights act three times . i voted for the women's health protection act and voted for raising the minimum wage and i voted for the bill back better act to my knowledge he's been about against all four. >> he is connor's mentor and he did post a post a fundraiser and he said recently he wouldmake a heck of a senator so that's an endorsement . and i'm just saying do you embrace his endorsement of human20/20? you wanted a yes no answer and i'm asking you do you embrace his endorsements in the 2022 election ? >> you have as part of the time asking questions as you do answering them. when i was amember of your data fundraiser for me and expressed his support for me as a member of congress . i accepted it then of course idid . my voting record iswhat it is. i work with any democrat to get things done .>> same rule, yes, sir no. >> the question is actually incorrect but if you're

asking me about the extent of support of a democratic senator, absolutely. >> he said you'd make a heck of a senator. do youembrace his endorsement yes, sir no ? >> evil at home want to know what we're going to do actually with our next senator and here's the good news. you don't have to vote for either of them. >> i think this is really important. why bring up joe manchin? he has been a state senator, a governor and us senator for west virginia. and he's driven it into the ground we must not allow that to happen to pennsylvania. we must lift pennsylvania. we must make sure we clean up our state. we bring back jobs. we improve education . pennsylvanians go up in the quality of life, not go down. we can never become west virginia and ever allow any politician to do what he did to west virginia.

>> on this question it's a little bit different. i want to ask for you to raise your hands. in a way it's a yes no question but for democracy -related questions, i believe this goes to representative kenyatta. >> sign me up t. >> that's like, sorry. the moderator screws up to. i'm going to ask forquestions about democracy and ask you to raise your hand . heraise your hand if you support positions or issues i mentioned and we will discuss afterwards. raise your hand if you support abolishing the electoral college ? okay. and we will go back. eliminating the senate filibuster. all 4. expanding the number of justices on the us supreme court?

okay. making the district of columbia and puerto ricous states . okay. let's go back to where there was some disagreement. abolishing the electoral college, representative why would you want to abolish the electoral college? >> for folks at home yet again you only have oneoption on this stage . the electoral college serves no purpose other than to continue rpto muddy up this idea that there should be one person and one vote. i'll tell you on the stage if any one of us gets one more vote than the other person that person will be the democratic nominee and yet with the electoral college we seen multiple elections now where the person who got the most votes did not become president. that is a problem and i find it erodes people's faith in our election. >> lieutenant governor fetterman, why don't you want to abolish it?

>> we're democrats. we can't be in a position where we are contradicting ourselves. if we go after the republicans understandably they're frustrated by an outcome and they go to delegitimize it or to go change the structure as they attempted to do with our own supreme court hearing in pennsylvania and change the underlying rules. i believe we as a party need to remain logically consistent on these things and need to make sure we're onot changing the structure of our government at a fundamental level based on whether we like the outcomeor not . >> i do not believe in abolishing the electoral college. president obama, a band of mixed race twice. he won the electoral college and won the popular vote. bill clinton one as well. you win elections, you lose elections. we cannot act like the last president and get upset and

change the electoral college. we need to have a candidate and joe biden won the electoral college and the popular vote. what's more important is that our candidates speak clearly. >> congressman lamb. >> if we were starting our society over again it would make a lot of sense not to have an electoral college but we have one and to get rid of it you have to amend the constitution . anybody who doesn't know how difficultthat is, look it up . it makes the conversation academic . >> i think to suggest that abolishing the electoral college which is a relic of the past, which has not served us is the same as from trying to overturn the last election cti find pretty offensive and makes no sense. also this idea that we're democrats, we don't try to change anything or it's in the constitutiontherefore is hard so we should try to change anything .

the constitution as mechanisms by which it could be changed because our founders understood it was a living breathing document i'm running for senate cause that's what we should do as democrats . >> expanding the number of jobs, could i see your hands again? so it's just the two of you. okay. congresswoman. >> i can tell you the reason is everyone who will argue we are democrats, we don't change. what's happened is this particular supreme court has decided it once to overturn everything from the new deal. their desire is that our way of life, they want to overturn it. they've been planning this for a long time. the federalist society in particular sam alito, they have been planning steadily to go ahead and the road the entire new deal philosophy and policies.

social security, medicare. >> representative kenyatta. >> this is not a new idea.i wish i could take credit but we've not. of ve expanded the number justices on the old times. i think y.it was mitch mcconnell, not democrats who pack the court. when mitch mcconnell did not allow president obama to actually put something when it was his turn to ram through any direct in opposition of the same rules he made up to deny president obama, the supreme court has its lowest public trust that itever has and we have to fix that . >> lieutenant governor federman. >> it's the same underlying logic. just in the pennsylvania supreme court the republicans were outraged. they were unhappy with the judgments of the supreme court and now they want to change our constitution to change how it was elected that would almost guarantee

we would have a permanent t republican supreme court in pennsylvania. the democratic party does not read the rules just simply because we do not like the outcome. i wish we had a 63 democratic majority in the supreme court but the fact is we don't and i don't believe fundamentally altering the structure of the supremecourt is the answer . >> congressman lamb. >> this question is a trap. one of the things i'm trying to convey your is i spent four years knocking on town halls. the type of people that are going to determine whether we are successful or fail never had a single one of them in tens of thousands of conversations asked me to add a justice . people are looking for stability and practicality. i want to know where do we stand at the end of the day. adding justices is completely over their head and i think everyone we talk about is a wastedmoment . >> i have to agree. if roe versus wade is overturned, if they start attacking what we see going

on with voting rights, the environment, clean water act, if they start going after medicare, if they start really goingafter social security security . >> but they're saying there's decisions you don't like. >> to my colleagues here no one here is fdr and he wanted to do it too. he was a great democrat who did great things for his country. you're right. no one is asking it but he said if you will not allow us to help the american w people, i'm going to help the american people. >> let this be the last word. >> thank you. >> i think there's a couple things being said that sare fundamentally false. we're not going to win this election by only going to doors in western pennsylvania that the congressman keeps referencing. the doors we need to be focused on are the doors that are in philadelphia

southeastern pennsylvania. the base of our party and we keep acting as it to show up a every election are somehow not as worth fighting for as some other folks. we're going to win this election by turning out for philadelphia and southeast pennsylvania . >> i want to go back to our questioners. this is for representative kenyatta. >> were going to go back to energy for a minute. president biden walked back to campaign pledge to end drilling on public lands. do you agree and how do you see pennsylvania's role in the natural gas economy. >> i'm going to have to agree with candidate biden and disagree with what he did there. but i do support is releasing more petroleum out of the strategic petroleum reserve. what i do support is actually making sure that we don't give one sense more in tax to big polluters and actually put our investments

into clean technologies of the future and what i have said repeatedly is that a part of the increase that people are feeling at the pump, 409 before i came here, a part of that we have to acknowledge is that the oil and gas ceos are making more money than they've ever made and are not passing on those meetings to the consumers. and there are a number of different bills people are talking about in washington to make sure that they cannot do the type of greedy practices that have allowed companies like shell eand bp to make more money than they've ever made while still charging you more. >> go ahead. >> what specific steps would you take to support, to ease the burden to americans at thepump ? >> the strategic petroleum reserve. i mentioned right now there are already permits that have been approved and so if

believe there needs to be more drilling and extraction there are permits that folks can use but i think we haveto look at this in the short medium and long term and in the short term , scr and the longer-term we need to make sure pennsylvania is a place where we're modernizing, building electric cars. leaning into the green energy future that everybody up here will tell you we need . >> time. councilwoman. >> i want to answer that question about what can we do now? and yes i support the president because of the situation wherein. the reason we're in this situation is where not thinking about how to use the tax code so for example i think it's $.50 per mile you get and that usually goes to small businesses. i'd like to see that extended for the average employee and

where you would sit back and file a quarterly statement so that you could get some money back from your taxes for your gas mileage. that would be one. number two, i'd increase it for truck drivers do they have a larger deduction in the tax code. another thing we should look at is what is thecurrent technology ? there is vital technology currently used in texas andin ohio . we should be , we have the money. it's green technology and we should provide grants to truck drivers. to americans, to install this idle technology. >> congressman lamb. >> yes i support the ministrations policies. you've got to realize we drill for both well and natural gas and both of those e things have been taken off the world market in an arm as qualities because of the war in ukraine. europe, it's not wake buying

putin's oil and gas so not only do we have a challenge ourselves and dealing with those prices, we made specific commitments to help not only ukraine but all are they to allies place that oil and natural gas which we can only do with production so talking about repealing the gas tax and clean technologies and all this other stuff, it sounds great. not a single one of those will result in you seeing a lower price at the gas pump or a lower home heating bill or electric bill. that will happen if we increase production. you can't increase production we do exactly what the administration is doing . >> i do support the president in his decision to do what he did and i like to say i've never taken a dime in campaigncontributions in any of my campaigns from expected industries ever . we need to make sure we maintain and enhance our energy security e. we've seen how fragile that can be on the world stage with the russian invasion of ukraine and we can never be

at the whim of a country like russia or iran or venezuela for our energy. i spoke to members from the german embassy two weeksago and they said they've got us over a barrel, no pun intended . we are into their energy for the next five years minimum. i support american energy. we need to have american energy and we need to make investments to make green american energy on an ongoing basis and evolve but right now our energy security is paramount particularly in a world that's been stabilized the war in ukraine and i do support the release of the strategic petroleum reserves and suspending the gas tax . >> can i add one thing? >> you'll get a closing statement. we will never get to all our questions but i do have a follow-up for the lieutenant governor cause it's been mentioned several times about the spending the federal gas tax. >> i support that. i believe that will make an

impact atthe pump . >> $.18. >> $.18 to a single mother with two kids, $.18 really matters as far as i'm concerned. and also we need to be concerned with exxon mobil making $10 billion a quarter in record profits. crimea river that there's nothing we can do when they're raking in billions of dollars everyquarter . there is a chilling relationship. >> i have a follow-up. i have to ask you one for ppa follow-up. >> i'll break the rules a littlebit. i know, i've lost control . i'm asking you for permission . >> let's just go left to right, representative kenyatta. >> two things i would say. john talks about the savings for a single mom.we do have those single moms driving over roads that are not fixed and paved.

that is what that money goes to so it sounds nice to say were going to suspend the gas tax but there's not going to be that much savings and when you talk about increasing production that does not happen overnight. you talk about pie-in-the-sky ideas it's not like we're going to stick astraw in the ground and oil is going to come out . it takes a long time to extract oil and natural gas. >> $.18. i was given and fearful the wife of a truck driver. she told me they're paying too much for fuel and so it does matter. another thing though, as we are going ahead and increasing production there is no reason americans should not get royalties the same way that they do in alaska. americans have a right to those royalties. we should be getting a check so that's another way to which americans can sit back as we're pumping and getting fuel to europe. it doesn't mean we have to give up on environmental stewardship.

>> last word. it's the difference between talk and results. $.18 sounds good. your price will not go down by $.18 a gallon at the pump because we collect the gas tax from the company. unless john has a way to impose a price on those companies that they can't charge $.18 more which we don't have the authority to do that's not going to happen . your roads and bridges and all your infrastructure will get built more slowly $.18 gas tax goes into the highway trust fund we are using day after day right now to rebuild. >> we have to move on to our next question and paul ward in pittsburgh has a question. >> this is for councilwoman khalil. where do you stand on a path to citizenship forimmigrants in this country illegally ? >> undocumented, i support them becoming citizens. i hope the president does it through executive order but yes, i would introduce legislation and would support

to make sure undocumented immigrants become legal residents. i am the daughter of immigrants. people come to this country many different ways and they are a blessing. they enrich our society and country. george washington was an illegal immigrant. true story. so yes, i support legalization, making sure that we provide citizenship to undocumented immigrants. >> the people here already obeying the law, paying their taxes, paying in social security and medicare and trust funds, we need them and it's the american story. my family had a path to citizenship because it was a different time, not because they had a different set of papers. what we passed in the house of representatives is a five-year work permit for anyone in this situation.

it's the exact same as apath to citizenship and it can be renewed every five years after that . that made it into president biden's bill and that's the realistic thing that if we w elect the senator from pennsylvania we might be able to get done . >> i'm married to a former dreamer, he fled a dangerous situation and i support a path to citizenship for those immigrants that are already here. it has been vexing. our country for decades that we have refused to enact compassionate comprehensive and common sense immigration reform. we are not going to deport our way out of this . we are going to acknowledge that immigration makes america america and makes it special and my wife's origin story has informed my own views to the point where we need to make sure we are honoring the contributions they've made and they deserve a path to legal citizenship and i absolutely support comprehensive immigration im reform in this country and

which would vote for that as your next united states senator. >> representative kenyatta. >> there's so many folks across our country who are american in every sense of the word except for one piece of paper. these are folks whorsare members of your community already . who are paying taxes. who deserve every opportunity to have access to the fall american dream and what i ha call america's basic bargain. one good job backed up by a union. the ability for your kids to go to a good school. the ability to go to the doctor if you get sick and fill the prescription when you leave the appointment and then that dignity of retiring with a level of security. congressman is like right, right now they're not even able to lift. this is where ollived experience matters. and why we deserve a senate and a senator that reflects the lived experience of working people all across the

commonwealth and that's why i talk about this so much. this is how you see an impact policy andin some instances impact policymakers . >> our next question is from julia russo of the inquirer and it is for congressman lamb. >> in recent months culture wars over celgbt rights have intensified and transgender rights haven't been introduced at statehouses around the country. the equality act against housing and employment discrimination, do you support the equality act but also what is your message to lgbtq pennsylvanians that makes any immediate movements on federal legislation seem unlikely ? >> i feel a slight slight quibble. i always feel the need to defend the houses record because we passed the equality act with my vote twice since i've been there. there are a lot of

pennsylvanians that are understandably not just frustrated but scared by the debate that's going on chambersburg in our own state became one of the first towns to rollback an antidiscrimination ordinance. it's something we wouldn't have to worry about if we had the equality act but what i think is so distasteful about this is you want to say to some of these republican politicianshow about you pick on somebody your own size ? they're going after children. kids who may have questions that seem unusual to a lot of families but theyhave one . if that's your parents they want to make sure you get those questions answered. you don't want your child dragged out into public and thrown off the sports team and made into a spectacle because of something they really are texperiencing against all these efforts to scapegoat kids . i think we can makepolicy without doing that . >> do you believe transgender women should be allowed to play on women's sports teams ? >> i think there are different answers along that

spectrum. at the youth level what's let kids be kids. i'm not aware of any cases where it's pose any sort of problem. once you get to something like ncaa division i they already have rules. they already do testing. they have specific criteria which by the way university of pennsylvania my alma mater has met every single time so i think people have questions about whether those rules are modern enough and accuratebut that's not a question for the congress . >> if any political party or elected official attempts to score points at the expense of a trans child or any members, they need to find a work.it's absolutely reprehensible. it's tough enough to be a teenager. if you're up part of a marginalized community to be singled out whether it's a governor or legislators is just fundamentally unacceptable. i've long been a strong

proponent and ally of it. i'm proud to say in 2013 i was the only elected statewide official to officiate a same-sex union when it was illegal. governor corbin threatened to have me arrested. we as a state have failed miserably at delivering equal protection to our residents. it's something long overdue and if i'm your next united states senator basic fundamental equality and not singling out members of this community is an absolute priority of mine. >> said i have since i asked congressman lamb do you believe transgender women should be allowed to play on women's sports teams ? >> i want to qualify that to and say like i said, if you are looking to score points and gain advantage by singling out and going after trans athletes or children, it's time to find a of work .

we need to be better than that. we need to be inclusive and compassionate and as i've always said compassion and understanding is always the right side of history and we will look back on that as a shameful chapter if we don't immediately stop. >> representative, equality act. >> for folks at home who can't see in the auditorium, to my left over there is my husband, doctor matt. and when i'm your next senator for the first time in american history were going to have an openly gay man in the u.s. senate . who is going to bring my entire life and family and perspective to anybody that is in desperate need of that perspective. it makes no sense that right now with 50 votes in the senate we have not already passed the equality act. it's wrong. and right now in pennsylvania under state law depending on which county or municipality or in you either have

protections as a lgbtq person or you don't. that patchwork approach is wrong. and it was heartbreaking to watch the hearings for soon to be justice jackson and hearing senators openly opine about whether or not name sex marriage isfederal law . >> and on transgender women in sports? >> i got the chance to vote against legislation at the state level which they called the women's sports act or women's protection of sports act. and what we know is all this nonsense that your hearing is not aboutprotecting girls or women in sports. they don't careabout people pay for female athletes, they don't care about making sure the facilities in which kids are practicing are equal and whether it's a girl or a young boy . they don't care about that .

all they care about is attacking kids and we know this legislation has led to increased amounts of suicide attempts and suicidal ideation by trans and lgbtq kids. it must come to an end . >> ... i'm sorry, go ahead. >> i'm proud to be a councilperson from jenkintown who passed an - onantidiscrimination clause. we cannot discriminate in jenkins town against race, gender, sexual identity and i'm also proud to say we just recently restarted the ma commission. having said that i want everyone to step back.boys are already playing in sports so i don't know where this crisis is coming from rather than i'm so glad you voted against this. it's gone against in the great immigrants and i'm going to call her out by her name. martina white must be a very sick person because originally used to go out against immigrants. she was extremely anti-and she was from before crop. so she spent her entire time

when she was running going after immigrants. now that her community is very much immigrants another scapegoat. the kids. so i'm not seeing you protest too much and you need to go pick on somebodyseelse and do your job . >> i can do at least one more lightning round question. let's start with lieutenant governor tran's fetterman and maybeyou can explain where this came from . >> this question comes from a reader of the inquirer election newsletter which you can sign up for. at inquirer.com 2022. our reader asks negative campaign ads tend to poison voters attitudes towards all politicians. since some of those eventually become our elected leaders do you thinksomething needs to be done to temper this negativity and if so why west and mark . >> i do and i walk my dog. i am running an absolute

clean issue oriented race here. i do not have a super pack that is running negative ads telling lies quite frankly. but someone here on this stage does. i would ask that the disavowal that run a positive campaign, especially when you're using a republican line calling one of us a socialist. i'll do something, or won't. connor is not a socialist but neither am i and i would ask him into a knowledge that. >> since you mentioned you my name would you like to respond? >> sure, it's not my ad to disavow. the reason he didn't want people talking about so-called public and talking points is he has no answer from them. he can't stand up to them in my own words . my own words wnare that john's record in his history, the choices he had made placed

him too far to the extreme to win a statewide level in pennsylvania. when athe was running around in his gym shorts making marijuana the number one issue campaigning with bernie sanders he lost a lot of the swing voters in our state already. can pretend to besomeone different now but that's what you see . >> representative kenyatta. >> i think there is a difference between erroneous, false attacks and talking about someone's record. if we can't in the primary draw a distinction then when is the right time to do it? i think everybody on this stage is committed to supporting who the democratic nominee is. we had elections, not geoptions so we don't get to not talk about john's record particularly of chasing down an unarmed black guy with a 2gauge shotgun because it makes them uncomfortable. we have to talk about it now or in november. >> i want to thank you for the commercial because as i was canvassing in northeast, he told me you for knocking on my door and doing the

legwork because i'm tired of commercials so thank you . but having said that this is a free country. i don't believe really we should be censoring as like that. americans don't like it, turn off your tv and come out and canvas with me.. so that's really very much what i believe but let me talk about the socialist thing. we're paying europeans for their healthcare. i'm going to answer that. >> congressman lamb. >> have said what i had to say. it wasn't my ad to disavow so i don't. >> not the question in particular . >> the reader's question about how negative campaign ads can poison the perception of elected leaders. >> to be honest i think that i've had a lot of people tell me over the years they don't like negative ads. i don't typically run them but i do think you have to

leave space to have what can be an uncomfortable family discussion especially in a primary like this one . we make our bats best efforts day today to do that and as respectful and clear a manner as possible. times your supporters may go a different direction but just because something is uncomfortable or makes us not love the brightness or appeal we should talk about it. >> when he said about bernie sanders i was a berniesanders fellow . >> si only have a few minutes and you only have a few minutes left. another lightning round question and this goes to representative kenyatta. name a living republican you admire and why. >> a living republican i admire iveston mark representative wendy thomas was one of my colleagues in the house . she and i have a bill called the law, a canoe died by

suicide in my district. getting a call from his grandmother is probably still the toughest day i've had as a legislator and i introduced that bill with her to reimagine the way we provide mental health care for our kids. i thought actually been to vice president biden in new hampshire when i was campaigning for him and asked him to consider putting this in his policy. >> i hate to cut you off talking about suicide. let's go to counseling next and living republican that you admire and why. >> i hope i get his name right. he's no longer in congress but i just recently read an article about him in which he properly critiqued democrats. and actually he worked real well with a gentleman who is running for governor out in texas but what i like what he said was democrats pointing to what they do. so for example our new supreme court justice said

she had such incredible , credentials. why are wetalking about her credentials ? >> time. congressman lamb. >> i would say house republican colleagues of mine who voted in the second time, i don't think it's possible to communicate s what the environment was like down there after january 6 but every single day people were more on edge than any environment i've ever been around for those members and were not only intentionally throwing away their political career and a lot of them have been run outof the house . on a personal safety risk for them to do the right thing and i think history will richly. >> lieutenant governor. >> one is former professor of mine senator alan simpson, a republican from wyoming . pro-choice local republican senator from wyoming. you can imagine blthat was one

point in time. the second one is my father. my father is a republican and he think talks and still did n,quality values of compassion, integrity and public service and he's a shining example of party does not define a person's character poand those are two republicans that i admire greatly. >> we are short on time so will try to get another lightning round question in. let's stick to the 30 seconds. how do you handle stress? omcouncilwoman, let's start with you. >> how do i handle stress?i just go ahead and take care of my house and family and talk to my parents, i pray. i prayed a lot and i garden and i have dinner with my friends and i just live life and juggle. so that's how i handle stress . >> congressman lamb. >> i go out looking for people i represent and invariably you'll find one to

put it all in perspective because when a lot of themare going through it it's way worse . >> lieutenant governor, stress. >> i'm so blessed to have children, three and eight and for stress relief nothing beats hanging out with them at home. i look for it and that's one idof the downsides is i don't get to shut them in and help them with their homework. based on is great but it's a poor proxy to being there. >> representative, stress. >> life for me hasn't been no missiles here. i left with high school, lost both of my parents by the time i was 27 and it's been tough. two things never fail me. a common going on a walk. nothing like an endless want to help you think through things. the second i would highly recommend going to netflix

and watching the great british bake-off. there's no happier show. >> we've come to the end of debate and i want to thank the four of you for being with us. you have 30 seconds and i believe it is councilwoman khalil's turn to lead off. >> pennsylvania, you are amazing. pennsylvanians,you've surprised me every day. i want to tell you anamazing story that happened to me . i went to a house of worship . in the middle of the county, it's a mom and i say i'm going to visit this mom and i met a woman and a white woman and we started talking politics and i gave her my card and she know, i love trump so i go what are you doing here? so she says that hey, i take care of this.

>> congressman lamb 30 seconds. >> thank you for your time and attention and ask you in the next three weeks as you make up your mind about what is going to take to succeed. i'm the only one standing in front of you n has been a republican head-to-head in a situation like this and i've done it three times. some of the things john would criticize me for although he's wrong and particulars are things that make me appeal to people in the middle. it's something we have to have. you do it by havingcommon sense, eliminating distractions and getting support from the left , right and center . >> lieutenant governor federman. >> i'm the only democrat run in pennsylvania that consistently campaigned on core principles and if you send me to washington, if you trust me hiwith your vote will always have my vote in washington dc. to be that first the first boat to be decisive and tilting the balance of the senate to make sure wekecan get

stuff done . we need to meet the moment and i promise you you won't read about me changing my mind. send me to be that 51st boat. >> representative kenyatta. >> if we want a government that works for working people we have to elect working people. i don't know democrat in sy pennsylvania or outside pennsylvania that wants to lose this race. but the only way we're going to win is by making sure we have massive turnout among our regional and demographic base. that were able to excite voters all across the commonwealth with the message about why it matters to have abigger, older democratic majority. i talked about what i will fight for as your senator . >> we're coming to a close for the 2022 pennsylvania democratic time candidate debate and i want to thank all four candidates for your

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