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thank you. god bless and god bless rhode island. [ applause ] supreme court justice ruth baden ginsburg is scheduled to talk about the 100th anniversary of the ratification of the 19th amendment which granted women the right to vote. we're having troubles with our signal from georgetown university law center and are working to fix it to show you this event. until then, here's a segment from this morning's washington journal. joining us from manchester, new hampshire this morning is political reporter paul steinhouser. great to have you back again. less than 24 hours now before the polls open. what time do they open tomorrow, 7:00 a.m.? >> most 7:00 a.m., some close at
7:00 p.m., some close at 8:00 p.m. this is a primary. normal election. you go in and vote. not like a caucus. most americans will be a little more family triangular with how we do it here in new hampshire. >> we were talking about election security firns hour. any sense from election officials in new hampshire in what they've done in the wake of iowa to double check their systems? >> there has been a full show of force by the secretary of state's office. the long time secretary of state up here had a news conference with the governor and attorney general to assure americans that results here will be controversy free. they use paper ballots. i'm a voter in new hampshire. i fill out my paper ballot and put it in. it's old school. old cool with all this hacking and history we've seen in the last couple of elections, old cool is reassuring. >> we'll tell our c-span viewers and radio listeners there's a lot of coverage throughout the state.
look for our coverage on c-span.org and the president appearing in man thefter. paul, as you watch it, where in the state do you think most of the candidate have tried to focus and why? >> most of the population in new hampshire is in the southern third of the state. that's where the larger cities mostly are. it's closer to massachusetts. and the sea coast. that's where most of the concentrated candidates concentrate. nobody ignores going up north to the north country, to the white most. most of the population is from concord south down the ncaa line and that's where most of the of of the campaign traffic is. >> joe biden said he took a gut punch coming out of iowa. what is he doing differently in new hampshire >> he's been down playing expectations big time. at the debate on friday night he talked about how he took a hit in iowa and he said i'm likely to take a hit in new hampshire. the next day on saturday he had
a news current. i asked him are you brushing off new hampshire. what his campaign tells us reporter they are not looking for a victory. they are looking to get out of here with a third place finish and move on to nevada and south carolina, the two states that follow new hampshire. for biden, south carolina with that majority african-american electorate on the democratic side that's his fire wall. ehoping to escape here with a third place finish. polls indicate that might happen. but, hey, it may not. >> in addition to joe biden who do you think has the, stands the most to gain and like wise the most to lose from the new hampshire results? >> that's a great question. first of all bernie sanders, the polls suggest he'll win here. that's expected. he's the senator from neighboring vermont. he won here big as he said huge four years ago when he beat hillary clinton by more than 20
points. so he's expected to win. if he wins i don't think he gets a huge bump out of that because again he's expected to win. pete buttigieg has a lot on the line. he surprised everybody in the political world with that, i guess you can call it a victory. by this much. bernie sanders is also claiming victory in iowa. for buttigieg now expectations are much higher and if he doesn't come through, well then that is an issue. he's been getting extremely large crowds. yesterday at all of his events combined he had more than 5,000 people which is a lot up here in new hampshire. so, yeah, a lot is on the line for him. let's talk about elizabeth warren, senator from neighboring massachusetts. this is almost home turf for her as well and there's a history of massachusetts politicians running for president doing very well often winning here. think john kerry, mitt romney. if she doesn't perform well here she comes out of new hampshire looking like biden may coming out of new hampshire limp field goal he finishes fourth or
fifth. biden's coffers are getting a little thin. for warren also if she done perform well that's an issue. she will continue on. then amy klobuchar the senator from minnesota one of the latest tracking polls for the "boston globe" and wbz came out late last night and suggested that she has surged nine points over the last two days. so we'll see, bill. these polls may be accurate and may not. if she has a big win that gives her a big boost. if she doesn't perform is that the end of the line for her? let's talk about a couple of other candidates. campaigning exclusively here. michael gifford. former massachusetts governor has been campaigning here and in south carolina. if none of them perform well here, well do they go on the? finally i don't want to leave them out, andrew yang was rising for so many months but the tech
entrepreneur had a disappointing finish in iowa. he said new hampshire is a natural place for him. >> paul steinhouser, we love your calls, comments, questions. we were talking about this just before we came on the air, paul steinhouser, the "boston globe," suffolk poll through sunday, i believe, bernie sanders up by 5.3%. actually up a hey ed in that poll 26.6%. but you mentioned may be a one last minute poll coming out today. tell us about that, if you know. >> yeah. that's the cnn poll that has been conducted by the university of new hampshire. they've been tracking as well. it should be coming out this hour, i believe. so if you see it because i don't
have my computer open but if you see something pop from cnn university of new hampshire that will be the final poll. >> we will keep an eye on that for sure. >> thank you. unlike these snafus in iowa, remember cnn and "des moines register" poll was supposed to couldn't. that was the gold standard poll. they had those snafus there and it never came out. that's not tissue here. but, again, polls aren't always right and here's the big thing about new hampshire voters. they are traditionally late decideders. that suffolk poll that came out last night was conducted on saturday and sunday. 11% were truly undecided. for those backing a candidate 45% said i may change my mind by tuesday. just goes to show how everything can be up in the air. don't take these polls like they are going to be the final result because new hampshire is known for giving some surprises. new hampshire is also known for
being contrarion, often going against the grain of what iowa does. that's what makes these 48 hours so fascinating. we didn't see any candidates dropout after iowa. we thought john delaney might do that but he did it before. nobody dropped out after the iowa results. we'll see some candidates dropout wednesday morning. >> on that contrarion notion you talked about bernie sanders being a neighbor, a vermonter, elizabeth warren from massachusetts. correct me if i'm wrong the last democrat to win the new hampshire primary and go on the president was an outsider, was jimmy carter in 1976? >> jimmy carter. exactly. he did it the old-fashioned way. he won in iowa and then here in new hampshire. he put his nose over the ground over months and months and doing retail politics over and over again and that kind of changed the landscape and it put a much
bigger emphasis on retail politicking, doing house parties, going to town halls and speaking, having events. so not just big large rallies. he perfected that. it's up here considered a tradition, retail politicking in new hampshire. famous saying if new hampshire voters if you don't meet and talk to the candidate three or four times you feel cheated out. but it's a special thing. new hampshire is very proud of that tradition, of the voters being very well inform and having great access to the candidate and keeping them honest with their tough questions. >> iowa caucuses, disappointing turn out for a number of people, less than they expected from the previous iowa caucuses. what's your sense of the turn out tomorrow? how is the enthusiast there? >> in 2016 we had that wild race on the republican side and
democratic primary was a little less enthusiastic. democrats tell me they are hoping they will exceed the secretary of state's predictions for turn out. but you're right the narrative coming out of iowa was democrats have been saying for a year or two they can't wait to get out there to vote and get donald trump out of the white house. turn out was well below 2008 when senator barack obama of illinois won in iowa and eventually, of course won the nomination in the white house. there was a little disappointment there. we'll see if there's a bump here in turn out. we'll know wednesday morning, obviously. >> let's go to our calls. go to darlene in gold hill, oregon on our democrats line for paul steinhouser. >> caller: i want to comment oregon does have one of the best systems for voting. you register when you get a driver's license. and they hold it until you turn 18 and you're eligible to vote, through the mail. you got two weeks to get your
vote in. so i think that is a very good system. a lot of people don't have computer access, believe it or not in rural communities because we don't have broadband but i think also the iowa caucus was crazy. let people have one man, one woman vote, and not have everybody sitting around trying to change your mind. thank you. >> okay, dr. lean. paul steinhouser, any comment? >> well a lot of people are confused by how iowa votes the first-round, the realignment, the sdes as they are called the state delegate equivalent. in iowa caucus it's basically a one round and you vote no second round, novi built of 15%, supporters trying to grab other supporters from candidates who didn't crack that 15%. very different kind of feel here in new hampshire. again much more traditional.
it's a primary. you go in. put your ballot in and you're done. i will say the debacle in iowa will put a lot of attention on iowa and on new hampshire, unfortunately, as well because there's a push every four years for iowa and new hampshire to be removed from the top of the calendar. new hampshire now celebrating its 100th anniversary of holding the first primary in the race for the white house. iowa has been first overall, the first caucus state for half a century. but there's been long time, every four years there's a push to get them out because they are not that diverse. overall white populations and neither state has a very large urban area to speak of so people say they are not reflective of the country as a whole. new hampshire was going the brace for that fight again. that fight will be tougher because of what happened in iowa the confusion and reporting debacle. >> what's your scene of the top issues in new hampshire voters are asking about at these town halls and house parties and things like that?
>> yeah. health care, obviously has always been a top issue in this cycle. and, you know, of course here in the democratic party there's a fight between those who want the medicare for all the government-run system that bernie sanders especially has been pushing as has elizabeth warren and a few of the other more progressive candidates versus a public option that you hear from pete buttigieg, joe biden, amy klobuchar. health care a very large issue. prescription drug prices not just here, the whole country is dealing with skyrocketed dug prescription prices. the governor here passed some bills that tightened rotating eligibility. foreign policy, a big issue here. why? new hampshire has one of the highest populations of military veterans. that's also a big issue here. and traditional ones as well
like the economy and of course the opioid epidemic and it was four years ago hoan ton-that issue, the opioid crisis really exploded on the campaign trail and been an issue in new hampshire for most of this decade. presidential decades really saw that and it became a national issue partially because of all the attention on new hampshire. >> let's get back to calls and hear from bill from syracuse, new york on our democrats line. >> caller: here in the northeast we had a big internet outage on sunday i believe it was and i was wonder iing -- i understood that the primary will be primarily on paper ballot. do you see any way in which some snafu like occurred in iowa could occur, and i also want to say good word for the caucus system. it requires a person voting to donate quite a bit of time to
voting and it also makes it necessary that they have an articulated reason for voting the way they do. i think that's my comments. thank you. >> okay. >> the caller makes a good point. yeah. with a caucus it's much more involved, right? you got to give up a couple of hours in iowa on that moan night on what is often a very cold monday night to go a caucus site, a precinct site, be it a cool or firehouse or cafeteria. if your candidate is viable you're making the case for people to come your way. i think only about 14 or 15 states still hold caucuses. there has been a move obviously towards the primary system because it's much more familiar. and also much less time consuming. you go in, vote and leave. >> here's millberry,
massachusetts. republican line. eddie. good morning. >> caller: i'm concerned nobody is talk about the budget. we are almost at a trillion dollars deficit this year. so i hear warren and sanders talking about the state but mitt romney took his money down to the cayman islands and said something about value added tax since we import so much i would think that would be a good thing. thank you. >> okay. >> well, yang, the caller brought that up. yang has pushed -- that's what he's pushing for value added tax to pay for his freedom dividend which is his universal basic income. $1,000 every month for every american age 18 to 65. it seems like it's a tall task to get that passed. as for the budget more moderate
democrats pushed back against elizabeth warren and bernie sanders when it comes to their push for medicare for all, their push for free college tuition. joe biden, which was him yesterday, and he was once again bringing up the argument how are you going to pay for that? it sounds great but let's be realistic how are you going to pay for that with our current budget restraints. fiscal responsibility does come up to a degree in the democratic primaries. it's a bigger issue on the republican side and talking about trebes we'll have president trump right here in this city about two blocks from here tonight, having a large rally at the southern new hampshire university arena. the largest indoor venue in the state. he did something similar in iowa. i was out there, obviously, for the caucuses and he was there a couple of nights before having large rally. so the president really trying to steal some of the spotlight from the democrats both in iowa and especially here in new hampshire. this is an important state for donald trump. remember it gave him his first
big victory. he slaughtered the competition in the primary four years ago. he got the nomination to the white house. he lost the general election here so narrowly by less than 3,000 votes. new hampshire is the smallest of those swing states. four electoral votes. every one is important. he narrowly lost here to hillary clinton. this is an important state for him and one of the reasons he's coming up here is to plant a marker and try to win this state. one of the few states that republicans hope the president can flip from blue to red come november. >> we remind our viewers and listeners we're covering that speech tonight. live on c-span 3 at c-span.org and c-span radio app. live events as well from the democratic candidates. paul steinhouser our guest political reporter with the concord monitor. in years past your newspaper has done the editorial board has endorsed a candidate not doing so this year.
tell us the reason for that. >> it's really a sign of the times, unfortunately. the newspaper industry has really struggled and one of the reasons i think the monitor -- although in full transparency i write for a number of outlets. i write for the monitor as well. i'm not a staffer there. i believe the reason that they are not doing this is partially just because of, you know, i guess you could say logistics where they don't have large enough of an editorial board to do that. but it is a sign of the times. newspapers are struggling here in new hampshire and not just new hampshire. it's every where. there have been a couple of newspapers that have endorsed, made endorsements in new hampshire. the union leader which is the largest newspaper in the state endorsed amy klobuchar as did the king. sentinel. she's picked up three or four endorsements. bernie sanders got one as well. you know they don't hurt endorsements from newspapers. they don't hurt. i don't think they have the
cache they once had since most people now get their news from other sources. >> here edgar, republican line in readiville, tennessee. edgar, go ahead. edgar, go ahead. >> caller: voting card with a number, election commission like we boys got during the vietnam era we got a draft notice. with a number on it that would correspond back to the election commission and you can tell whether they voted or didn't vote. i'm tired hearing about the russians because they sent astronauts up into space. we haven't had a national space sending our astronauts up there for the last ten years. >> paul steinhouser you talked about procedures election officials in new hampshire have gone through. what are people saying at these events in terms of the wake of what's happened in iowa? are voters raising concern over their votes? >> well, i think voters here in new hampshire, obviously
jealously are proud of our traditions here. we don't take them for granted. we hope there's no snafus with this vote count and delivery of results like we saw in iowa. bill gardner was very clear to say we're not using any apps. bill gardner has been the secretary of state for four decades here in new hampshire. he's old cool. again in this case going old school with a paper ballot in this day and age is pretty wise thing to do. voter turn out is always pretty impressive here in new hampshire for the primaries or general election and that's another thing the state is very proud about. >> i want to remind our viewers and listeners in new hampshire a special line set aside for you. jennifer is next in riverside, new jersey. democrat's line. new jersey, jennifer, go ahead with your comment. >> caller: hi. yes. i'm a registered democrat and i'm going to vote for trump.
>> why your going to vote for donald trump? >> caller: why am i going to vote for donald trump? because i think he's done a good job. >> okay. jennifer in new jersey. next to phil in dunning, florida. phil in florida, go ahead. >> caller: how are you? >> doing fine. go ahead with your comment. >> caller: two quick questions. strike the last word i never understood what that meant. there's been a lot of talk about iowa going first. what is the advantage to going first that these other states are looking to get ahold of? >> good question, phil. i'll answer your question about
strike the last word in a minute. paul steinhouser ask about being first in the nation, why is that so important to new hampshire in particular? >> bill, thanks for saving me on that one. i don't cover capitol hill. i'm a campaign trail kind of reporter. listen, everybody wants to go first for the attention. i mean the candidates camp out in iowa and new hampshire and to a lesser degree south carolina and nevada for a year, year and a half. this cycle started right after the mid-term athletics in late 2018. if you're a state that votes very high up in the order one of those for early voting states you'll see a lot of campaign traffic, you'll get a lot of national attention and from a financial standpoint it helps the economy. look at all the business it brings to iowa and new hampshire. it's an extra added benefit. you're also -- you play a very influential role the voters of iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and nevada. that's their traditional job. take a big field this time
around my lord on the democratic side it was a big record. republicans four years ago had 18 candidates. we maxed out at 20 or 25 last summer. by the time you get to super tuesday this year on march 3rd and have a whopping 14 states voting, the field is smaller and more compact. the campaign takes on a different feel. less about retail politics than candidates voter direct contact and goes from the ground game to air wars. large rallies and especially advertising, television, digital, radio advertising makes a big difference. that's why it's many, many states would like to see themselves high up on the record. >> to the caller's question about what strike the last word you'll hear in senate and the house procedures particularly in mark up sessions for appropriations. what that means it's a device to extend time for members to have more time in the process of marking up legislation.
strike the last word. we'll go to dave in bedford, new hampshire. republican line. go ahead. republican voter. go ahead. >> caller: yes. when you go to the polls, all right, i've been voting for a while, you got to show your license to get your ticket and everything. make sure you're a resident. correct? and i was wondering what do they do safeguard these illegal immigrants that have driver's license that are in the colleges? how do they stop them from voting? >> well, you know, voter eligibility is a big, big issue here in new hampshire and there's been a big fight over that for years as well as out of state voters, out of state residents who go to schools in new hampshire and they've been, you know -- their ability to vote in new hampshire. these are two issues that have been very sticky here, democrats and republicans have fought over for decades.
but it's become extremely large justin last four years when donald trump, after winning the 2016 general election pointed to massive voter fraud across the country and singled out a couple of states including new hampshire. as i mentioned earlier the republicans have that time in 2017 and 2018 when they controlled the governor's office and both branches of the state house here in new hampshire. they tightened the eligibility restricti restrictions. democrats have been trying to roll them back unsuccessfully so far. big issue here. do you need a driver's license when you show up here to vote. that's a must. you need documentation to prove you're a new hampshire resident. >> go catherine next in savannah, georgia. democrats line. >> caller: hello. i'm dismayed about the democrats performance at the caucus and primaries. they should be focused on
attacking trump conquer methods and stop attacking each other. they have to you night warren and bernie have to move toward the center as americans don't under that we have some socialism here already and it hasn't hurt us. medicare and particularly which has hurt us the socialism that the corporations have been blessed with to avoid taxes, et cetera. i don't think it fits under socialism but it doesn't fit under democracy. thank you for taking my call. >> paul steinhouser, any comment? >> yeah. it's a good point. listen all democratic candidates are very vocal when they campaign to various degrees on what a threat, what a danger donald trump is. they all criticize the president some more than others. some try to get away from that and concentrate what they would do. it's only natural in a primary especially with this many contenders for the candidate to
paint contrasts with one another. i don't think it's any surprise we see the cane especially now in the last couple of weeks as we got closer to crunch time. voting begins and you see candidate really start to attack each other more we vehemently. all of them say even bernie sanders, i was with him, once again said this regardless of who wins the nomination he'll support that person. i think there's an understanding by a lot of democrats about what happened four years ago. the deep division between the sanders supporters and clinton supporters. many sanders supporters not voting, sitting out or going the libertarian way or going to donald trump. after four years of donald trump in the white house most democrats agree regardless who the nominee is they will support that nominee. i will say when i was out in iowa i was talking to a bunch of bernie sanders supporters and
asking them just that if bernie sanders doesn't win the nomination, maybe joe biden or michael bloomberg would you support them? not all said yes. there are still some tough feelings but democrats don't want to repeat history again as to what happened four years ago. >> comment about iowa and new jersey on twitter from patrick who tweet this. he says iowa and new hampshire are relics of the past trying to resist the changing demographics of the u.s. what do you say about that? >> listen, every four years iowa and new hampshire have to put up a fight to keep their first in the nation status. we leave this program and take you to georgetown law center for a walk with supreme court justice ruth baden ginsburg. this is live coverage on c-span 3. attending the funeral of a close friend or otherwise would be here today. i want to welcome you to "searching for equality" which is co-sponsored by georgetown law and the
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