tv Deirdre Mc Closkey Bettering Humanomics CSPAN August 22, 2021 3:07am-3:33am EDT
wood, matthew spalding in the 1619 project. >> joining us on book tv is doctor deidre mccroskey. she is the author of over 30 books a long time economist with the university of illinois at chicago. her most recent book veteran human onyx is just out. when you mimi a human onyx. i am an economist also historian i've been a professor of english and philosophy. i think economics should not give up the numbers or anything like that. but it should add to it what we can learn from the humanity from shakespeare i learned a
people not tell you about the meaning that they bring to their economic life. what is your job been to you? what does consumption mean to you? we as humanities consider and modern economics does not. i am in favor of human onyx. >> doctor, and your view what does a shakespeare or mozart add to our understanding of her economic life. >> they tell you why people do things the heroes are middle
class. one of the main characters there and the merchant of venice is a fool for love. what you learn from that is that shakespeare's time did not value the marketplace. it valued kings and queens and dukes and barons. in the church but not the marketplace. and so you learn what makes for a successful society. merchants are considered cheaters and manufacturers are making bad stuff we don't like
them we preferred the queen. you are not going to have a successful economy. there is one thing to learn on shakespeare. what you learn is deeper. you learn about forms you learn about creativity one of the futures of mozart. he doesn't repeat a lot. he repeats a variation. that is a lesson and creativity. it's central to the modern economy. there is lots to learn student
of mine had said there's a lot to be learned from curiosity. >> i can offer more specific technical reasons for wanting to do economics. but i think you get the idea. >> over the years we have talked to about several of your books. you've been on book tv several times. you have brought up your episcopalian roots and activities in the past. what about your religious life? does that play into economics and human autumn? >> right now i am working on a
book god in mammon. it was a word which was the language word for money. the subtitle is a public theology for commerce. it tries to show the they're not necessarily enemies. they can be enemies but you can have corruption too. not only in the marketplace. the uncorrupted version of these two that the profane can work together. so if you're going to
understand entrepreneur workers or for that matter consumers you need to understand the involvement with the transcendent, what is beyond when i was younger i had it mustang. and that made me feel so cool. is it cheap sports car how cool. that means that we invent the true volume. this word consumerism because humans always. [inaudible]
>> when it comes to ethics and morality, what is the role they should play in economics and human onyx? virtue ethics which is the take on it. all cultures have the confusion of the plains indians of christian, pagan, all think of the way to talk about virtue is a talk about individual virtues, courage just as the mode is the greatest of these.
which is the economics. at that so you think all of your colleagues are doing, that is not going to work well. self respect for you clear for the economy to work it's got to have available to it all of the ethical resources of the culture of human culture. >> you said earlier adam smith followers have narrowed his vision. what did you mean by that? >> adam smith most famous was published in 1759 for example
for become an electrician if they want too. >> from your book bettering human onyx you write it needs to be explained in the modern social science history is not the industrial revolutions but the great enrichment. one or two orders of magnitude larger than any change in human history, what was the great enrichment? >> 's what we continue to do with cameras and lights and containerization all kinds of things. but we continued to do after 1800, is that as a criticism
it is to confine in time. it's all about the explosion to take off as it's what was called in the 18th century. there have been takeoffs before. they did not keep going. it was the keeping going that is crucial amount. that took a change in ideology. a change in attitude and attitudes towards merchants and manufacturers.