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and welcome to about books. in a few minutes, we'll chat with one author who has made the transition from the world of sports to the world of books. but first, some publishing news. and we begin with some of the new titles being published this year. 2023 set to be a big year in the world of political books and memoirs and nonfiction titles. after five us senators published books during the 2022 calendar year, two more members of congress upper chamber are set to roll out their books in the first half of 2023. in may, missouri senator josh hawley will release manhood the masculine virtues america needs through the conservative publishing house. regnery senator hawley published his book, the tyranny of big tech through regnery back in 2021. in early june, florida republican senator marco rubio will release decades of decadence through broadside books, an imprint of harper collins. it's senator rubio's third book since coming to congress.
he wrote american dreams back in 2015, shortly before running for president in 2016. broadside has also snagged another high profile florida republican for its 2023 lineup. florida governor and potential 2024 presidential candidate ron desantis. we'll release the courage to be free. florida's blueprint for america's revival on february the 28th. also in february, climate activist greta thunberg will release her handbook on combating climate change. it's called the climate book in march. sociologist matthew desmond, the pulitzer prize winning author of evicted, is set to release his book on why poverty is such a persistent problem in the united states. it's titled poverty by america and a june lgbtq plus activist and pulse nightclub shooting survivor brandon wolfe will release his memoir entitled a place for us. in just the next few weeks to former members of congress are set to release books.
former utah republican representative mia love, who was the first african-american republican woman in congress, will release qualify wide. finding your voice leading with character and empowering others that will be released on january the 17th. and former south carolina congressman and current fox news anchor trey gowdy will release, start, stay or leave the art of decision making on january the 24th. other books to look out for in 2023 include author solomon rushdie's 15th novel victory city, which debuts in february. the book comes just six months after the author survived an onstage stabbing during a lecture in new york back in august of 2022. sean casey, the founding director of the state department's office of religion and global affairs, will release his book, chasing the devil at foggy bottom on january the 24th. that book includes a foreword by former secretary of state john kerry and just this week, author
jim popkin released code named blue wren the true story of america's most dangerous female spy and the sister she betrayed. the book chronicles the life of cubans by ana montes, who is scheduled to be released from custody this weekend after 21 years in federal prison. share with us the reading list or the books that you're looking forward to in 2023. simply record an audio file and email it to us at booktv. at sea dash c-span dot org. and we may use it on a future about books. and now we turn to the world of young adult fiction. two time nba all star and current miami heat assistant coach caron butler made a splash back in 2016 with his autobiography, tuff juice. in his second writing project, the basketball phenom tried his hand at y.a. writing and booktv. peterson sat down recently with caron butler to talk about his coming of age story that he entitled shot clock. well, on a yearly basis, tens of thousands of children's books
get published, and nearly 200 million were sold last year alone. one of those children's authors is caron butler. his most recent book is called shot clock. mr. butler, what inspired you to write shot clock? first foremost, thanks for having me. i think that there's the realities of the world and my personally experiences and how i navigated through society as a 40 to 42 year old man. that experience a lot of different things success, hardships, all those things. and i built the program by the name of butler league. my whole title, racing wisconsin. so i watched the kids and what they was going through and i just wanted to shine a light on a lot of things, a lot of adversities, and i just wanted to share it with the world. and obviously, as a children's book, but it's also a book for everyone, for adults, for, you
know, people from all walks of life just to, you know, get educated, get informed in real time with some of the experiences and challenges that people face on a day to day. well, you wrote your autobiography in 2015 called tuff juice. the foreword is by kobe bryant, one of your former teammates in the nba. but when it comes to shot clock, how much different was it writing for? what a teenage level, 12 year old level? yeah, i think it's i think it's tough when i, for example, is so easy to tell a story about yourself. you're being transparent, you being authentic, and let the chips fall where they may because it's your life, it's your reality. but then again, with shot clock, it is a reality of a lot of individuals. but some of the characters you have to be able to follow through with who they are, what the message is of some of the characters that we have in this
book, like tony, for instance, and for example, is a statistician, but he's created this is a world that we created for this kid. but in real life, tony wasn't a statistician. he was something else. but you know, you just have to be extremely clever with the nuances of the characters. and how much of your own personal experiences reflected in shot clock that i'll have to say 85 to 90%. give us an example. yeah. so the program coach, james is a character that's really reflected who i hope he's a coach for a traveling ball club and always has springs, which is, you know, pretty much the same as racing wisconsin in the oasis springs came from if anyone from the midwest, you travel i-94, you see a ton of oasis. so we name the city oasis springs, and that's how we pivot
pivoted into that space. but all the things that these kids from the butler league program experience, from traveling to cities and being, you know, exposed to different things and starting to believe in their abilities that they can conquer the world, that they can do a lot of different things in society and in life. these are some of the exact same narratives that happened in real time and i want to pivot back real quick, because i'm glad you asked that question. a police officer shooting a young teenager to start off young rising star in the community. now, this kid that was killed, we don't know what he could have been, you know, in life because he could have been anything but this was a real story that happened in my community in racing wisconsin. well, the book shot clock contains police brutality, underage crime, juvenile detention, depression. is this reflective of your teen
hood? i think it's a reflection of a lot of people childhood. if you don't experience these things personally, someone in your circle probably has or is. you know, this is the realities of the world for me personally, i didn't suffer depression, but some of the things that i seen, whether is police brutality, whether it was lack of mentors, whether it was being told what i couldn't accomplish, lack of belief, all these different things that these kids was going through. and then finally getting the proper mentors and a guidance around you, getting outside the confines of a six mile, seven mile radius, north southeast, west of your community being exposed to other things, being part of something larger than yourself, like a basketball team or any team. i feel like these are some of the things that anyone from any
walk of life can tap into. caron butler you were exposed to the world when you were in the nba. what was that first experience like when you got out of racing? i think it was it was amazing when i walked across that draft stage and i showed the commissioner, david stern, and at the time i cried. i cried when my name was announced, i cried. when i walked across the stage. i cried and i shook his hand. i cried in the back because i knew that the sacrifices and the generations of prayer that went into getting me to that point and i really wanted to just use that platform even at that moment, to just say thank you and thank you for everyone that believed in me. thanks for not throwing away the responsibility of giving me a chance, having empathy, because there was a lot of people that had fingerprints on my success and i helped mold molded me to
this point. our sport's an avenue for troubled youth, for kids stuck in bad situations. you know what i think sports is an avenue for pretty much anyone. like when you think about how life and how we function in society, sports help us, you know, to function in society. it teaches you how to be a part of a team and teaches you how to be something, part of something bigger than yourself. it teaches you how to be a star. it teaches you about adversity. you teach you about hardships in high moments. they teach you about being consistent sweat equity. you get out what you put in. if you stay consistent, it teaches you how to wave a towel and cheer for a teammate. it teaches you camaraderie. it teaches you how to coexist in the confines of the world with other people. and i think that's great. now, everyone won't go on to have, you know, professional careers and whatever respect the sport that they play or choose
to participate in. but some of the lessons that you learn in participating in these sports can last a lifetime. well, now reviewers have said the game description ends in shot clock are very vivid and they seem to appreciate those a lot. are those actually harder to write then than it would seem, given your experience in the nba? i think that, you know, coauthor and with justin, it wasn't hard because, you know, i can i'm a i'm a pattern recognition individual, if that make any sense. and i can, like, go to moment specific moments in games and things that i saw. and like this talk about them and, you know, during our writing process, we was going to like moments. how did it make you feel? what was you thinking? and what was the inside levels like and what was happening
around you? the out of my peripheral, when i saw this, i saw that i heard this and i it was just like, you know what, we have to put this in the book like this is powerful. we have to put it in and put you in the moment so you can feel exactly what you know. some of these guys, some of these players are going through, whether it's tony, whether he's on the sideline as a statistician, you know, is this so powerful. was tough to or shot clock harder to write shot clock has the shot clock because the script and the outline for shot clock had changed three different times. eventually was about tony himself. and then, you know, dante and terry and so many other characters came about because the story was too powerful. it couldn't be told, and based around just one character, it had to be based around multiple incidents. and then that's why we was like,
you know what? the story continues, and that's why we have to create a series where we can, you know, shine a light on more things and more characters and what are they up to now? where are they going off to? what the transition is next? because you fall in love with these characters. so that's why it was so tough, because you wanted to leave no ceilings for the possible eighties of where you wanted to take the story in the future. now, who is your coauthor? justin reynolds. what can you tell us about him? just the reynolds is from cleveland. he's a huge cavaliers fan. you know, i won't hold that against him, but, you know, myles morales, when you think about the puerto rican spider-man, the puerto rican, a black spider-man is best known for that creation. and writing that story. and what i can tell you about justin is that he's super humble. he's a genius in every sense of the word. he's a friend.
he's someone that i know i love. just bouncing ideas off of. i went through this process of figuring out who i was going to coauthor with, setting on zoom calls like the one that we're doing right now and just trying to figure out who did i mess with? and immediately that this was the fourth interview that i had. and once i met justin, it was just like we just clicked whatever it is. like we had it. we knew that the synergy was going to be great and i'm just so glad that i felt that we found each other and that we was able to create this and looking forward to, you know, the future of some more creations down the line. now. caron butler, were you writing as a youth or while you were playing in the nba? and so process like for you? i started i started journaling in probably year three in the nba, and it started with, you know, some of the conversations that i had with were like great brother kobe bright start
telling me, hey, man, you have so many like dope stories. and, you know, you should, you know, journal and, you know, keep note of all those things and probably about four or five years later, i had so much just information that i reflect on. and sometimes in the summer i would just like read through it. and i said, you know what? i'm going do book, you know, i'm going to do a book. and he encouraged me to do it and he was like, man, i would definitely support it right? the forward, i think it'll be amazing. you're going to impact so many people and i didn't know what this book because it's a humbling experience and it's also it's like you you put yourself out there, it's therapeutic all through that process. but it's very humbling because if you care about the perception of how people feel about you, it's going to be like thrown in the air, but nonetheless, like so many people reached out at the top to use my journey from the streets to the nba. and just like, man, like, thank you for being the super
authentic. thank you. thank you for being so transparent and honest and just like you changed my life like thank you and you gave me the courage to go out and tell my truth and live my truth. and i was just so glad about that. caron butler is it different to be greeted as an nba star or as an author? i mean, do the people do people treat you differently between the two? you know what? i think that i'm so much more known for the things that i've done in my second or third act than i am for playing the game of basketball at it. i always add that because that's the low hanging fruit, it's like, hey, i was pretty good at this game. but then here's all the things that i'm doing now that i'm a part of and that i'm creating and it's just a humbling feeling. steve springer, one of the coauthors that i written, tough juice, my journey from, speaks to the nba, where he told me years ago, you're going to be
surprised how many people have this book. how many people will be inspired by this book? and they're going to come to you, you know, from all different areas, from all walks of life, you know, years and years now. are you going to be like, wow, like i really had that reach and that impact with my story and it's happening in real time. it happened in china. it happened in the philippines. i was in india with the germany. it happened. i went to london. it happened. i so i was like, wow, this is it's amazing. well, on your bookshelf behind you along with some basketballs and basketball awards, we see some books. what kind of books do you like to read? you know, i like reading all types of things. i got this book right now, the master of none with clifford hudson. he's the ceo that really originated or created sonic empire. the franchise also got the new jim crow. i got the path. i got a lot of never eat alone,
tim grover new book i got the secrets to success. i got a lot of things i just asked them to do a lot of stuff and just try to just give myself off a wealth of knowledge from a lot of different areas. what about your kids or your kids readers or writers? absolutely. a little bit of both. one of my kids, my 12 year old, is a question. so she loves scholastic books. she's all into that space. we'll probably buy like 8 to 10 books every year at the book fairs and my youngest daughter, gia, which is 11, she's 11 now. she's just so happy that scholastic's made it part of the play. so they're going to actually have shot clock at the next book. fair. so she's excited to brag about it and, you know, share it with her friends. this is the first in a series, correct? correct. and can you preview some of the
the ones coming up? i can't go that far, but i want to say that one is done already. the second book and you know, you're going to see more from tony. you're going to see more from terry, you know, dante character, even though he's killed in the first book is so sad but like his legacy and you know how people was impacted and inspired by him will continue and how the community, you know, rallied around each other and came together around something so tragic. a lot of good will come from one of the most devastating incidents ever in the near future. for all these characters. so it's a lot of positive, bright moments, and i wanted to really shine a light on, you know, what adversity happened when tragedy happens, so much good can come out of it. but we all have choices. we and we all have to have empathy in fire solutions and in
those spaces. well, we started this interview by talking about the hundreds of millions of children's books that are sold every year, the tens of thousands that are published. how do you get yours in front of your target audience? well, i think that, you know, that's something that, you know, marketing and harpercollins and, you know, things that they really focus on, like strategically on how to make sure that the book is getting into the hands of people that will be mostly impacted by it. but it's also just, you know, keep talking about it, keep sharing the stories and, you know, trying to be as transparent as possible and getting out there, you know, i think it was pretty amazing that we went to houston, we went to atlanta, we went to dc, obviously, my hometown racing, wisconsin. we was in cleveland as well, went to another city. i'm drawing a blank, but we went to a couple of cities and hopefully during the course of
the season i can go to bookstores while i'm in the city's respective cities playing games and, you know, spend hours, 2 hours over there just, you know, speaking truth to power and just trying to impact and inspire people. author caron butler scott klock is his wife, a title tough juice is is ordered biography. we appreciate your time on booktv. thank you. thanks for having me. and you're watching about books, a program and podcast about the business of publishing. and one place where the business of publishing always takes place is book festivals. and after years of book festivals shrinking their footprint or going virtual in response to the coronavirus pandemic, book festivals are making a full, in-person comeback. in 2023. three of the biggest festivals that will take place in just the first few months of the year include the rancho mirage writers festival, which takes place february 1st through third. the savannah book festival taking place february 16 through
19th. and the tucson festival of books on march fourth and fifth. look for coverage of all those festivals on booktv. well, coming up on booktv, it's our afterwords program. this weekend marks the two year anniversary of the january six, 2021 riot at the capitol and the capitol police chief at the time was steven sund. and his new book, the now former capitol police chief, provides his personal account of events leading up to that day. he recently sat down with luke broadwater of the new york times to discuss his new book. so i had to get on a call with the pentagon and plea repeatedly for the support of the national guard, only to find on being asked if people are. people have to realize that when the police department runs out of resources and were overwhelmed when we down 911, who do we call? we call the department of defense. we call the national guard. there are backstop in getting help. so i put out that call only to
find out there was delay after delay after lane. what i hadn't realized is just two days earlier, the secretary of defense had put out this memo restricting the resources that my men and women so greatly needed on january, january six for an attack that i now believe they knew was coming because they had talked about it. they had talked about it in meetings that were so concerned, their talk about locking down the city. yet he goes and puts these restrictions on the resources i needed. never tells anybody. never tells the very people that are going to call 911. so at 234, i'm pleading for their assistance and have to wait till 5:44 p.m. for them to arrive on the scene. when i think about the absurdity, they're within two miles of the capitol, over 150 of them, with all the riot gear and they won't even move to tell my men and women i respect the military. i come from a military family. are the people in the field those that are willing to tell the truth? i highly respect the people that decided not to send help my men and women that we needed support badly. i can't even question why.
i can't even understand why they didn't send the help i needed. and a reminder that afterwards airs every sunday at 10 p.m. on booktv. well, thanks for joining us on about books program and podcast produced by booktv. you can get this podcast and all our podcasts on the c-span now app and booktv. we'll continue to bring you publishing news and author programs throughout the year. and remember, you can watch anytime at booktv. talk.
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