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officers, especially let's take new york city where i am, we have a procedure that we follow that it's up to the supervisor. if we have a person in a police chase for a vehicle and we have the license plate, the supervisor will call off that chase unless there was deadly physical force or a felon or some maim crime that took place. and also we use our aviation units a lot. they stand a better chance of staying with the vehicle than going on the pursuit. so it's up to the supervisor. there goes another police car passing him. >> is an by for us. we're just now at the top of the hour here and want to just recap for people watching and wondering what in the world we're looking at. this is a breaking story out of dallas county, texas. this police chase you said way. you're looking at live pictures thanks to or cbs affiliate there. several patrol car, i counted something lying eight or nine chasing behind this gray pickup
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truck. been going on for about an hour now. started around 11:00 texas time. moving westbound on 635 toward theed theed theed a addison, the suspect tried to drive away from a gas station without paying. that's how this whole thing started. collin county sheriff's office says as the suspect was being pursued, he or she tried to run over a law enforcement officer. so at some point near loop 12 and interstate 45, we saw some of the officers throwing out stop sticks trying to get the driver to pull over, trying to maybe flatten out some of these tires. but as we can see, the attempt failed. we've been talking it to former nypd supervisor wally zimes. he's been talking to us on the phone and watching it with us. i guess it's impossible to tell, but we can tell this car is
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flying by the other cars. what are we, 90 plus miles an hour? >> he would say he's over 75 miles an hour considering that the speed limit there is about 6 60. it's bertha he's on that straight path than going in and out of the city streets. and, again, keep in mind, soon schools will be getting out for lunch, more people will be getting out of their offices for lunch. so it's real important that they keep him contained right now in this area. >> sorry we lost the picture there, but we got it back and this is a gray f-15 1 50 ford peckup truck. pick upstruck and heading right into the dallas/ft. worth metroplex, population 6 million. but it is the noon hour, it could be worse. it could be rush hour. it is not. it looks like a fairly dry pavement, although i think i saw a little bit of moisture on the
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pavement a little bit earlier. an attempt to disabled vehicle throwing out spike strips to deflate those tires may or may not have worked. it's a process that takes obviously several miles for to take full effect. he had been going at highway speeds. now the driver is going somewhat faster than the rest of the traffic. and as wally zines pointed out, several police vehicle, one unmarked and one marked have sped up ahead of him. tell wlaus thus what they might to. >> they might have a tactical plan in place where they want to have traffic moved off the highway further up. as you can see, we have a little less traffic, have people pull off to the side, so they could do whatever the maneuver they want. there's three different types of maneuvers on high speed chases. they could try to box them in, they have the pet maneuver where they tap the rear of the let or
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right of the car, and we have the spike strich strips which deflate the tires. right now i would think that they have some plan in mind that they want to do with this particular individual. and keep in mind, something that's very important, most police officers, law enforcement, get hurt on car stops. so keep in mind that when this comes to a stop, the car stop is the most important thing with safety for the officers and civilians and the particular person. >> any chance they're talking to him on his cell phone? >> there's always a possibility. if they did their intelligence, which i'm sure they have, and they found out that it is his truck, they would make contact with him and try to talk to him. all these things are possible. and they're all good advantages for this to come to a safe ending. >> do you deploy a lot more assets when a fellow officer is
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involved? >> absolutely. you have to understand, we treat all crimes -- just so you know, and don't get the wrong impression, we treat every crime we go after, we give it the best. the law enforcement, the police departments, federal, state and local, it's like a second family. you work together and your life depends on each other, so you try to give it your best. as you would any other type of crime. but there's a bond that you establish. >> absolutely. >> and i think you mentioned depending on what county the pursuit may be taking place, that that particular county takes the lead in the pursuit, but what we're hearing is that officers -- this is multiinjure driks al. officers from three different countieses are pursuing this truck. so when it comes to -- let's say when, when their -- and it looks like almost this truck -- are
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you watching with us? it almost looks like it zil zagged. do you think perhaps the spike strips worked some maybe he's slowing down. >> maybe. there goes one as you can see. just the other -- i don't know if that's an unmarked car. but, yes, you're absolutely right in that respect. >> so what do you think this officer is righting to do? are you with us? >> wally, are you with us? >> officer in close pursuit here. three counties involved. grayson, collin and dallas. and to the best of our knowledge, this suspect is in dallas county. our affiliate is providing these live overhead pictures. this is obviously a help copter chase, too, because a lot of news agencies are following this. police -- are police and helicopters, or do they rely on the pictures that tv is provide something. >> you rely on these helicopters because and you have point to point communication, the police helicopt helicopter, the aviation units. but also keep in mind they're air monitoring this, too. they have supervisors monitoring
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this both who are in vehicles and also in the dispatch center. this is a very, very important thing because of course the possibility of injury or a serious accident. and keep in mind the weather is incleme inclement, it is raining. >> oh, it is raining. >> do people in these -- no two are alike, but do they tend to go to places they're familiar with? >> some do. and this particular person, they wept to a gas station and if they've done it once, they usually do it again and they know that they get away with it at that particular gas station. so he probably does know the area or she, whoever is operating that vehicle. it's a lot of strategy. it's a cat and mouse game. but the most important thing is the safety aspect of it. >> well, again, i don't understand -- at some point they
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decided to pursue this hguy a lt more closely as opposed to following back several hundred feet. so we'll see what they're up to. >> they had something planned back there. they might have had a spike strip out and if you notice, you deviated from his center plain where he's operating the vehicle now. >> i think you may be right. >> i'm also being told, we're watching this pursuit taking place westbound on 635, now i think they're on a different highway. this is southbound 45 in ellis. and, again, just to reiterate, this pursuit has been happening for over an hour and as we were pointing out when this whole thing started because this individual sped away from a gas station. he or she could have a full tank of gas and this could continue on for hours. >> and one of the things the law nationally in regard to hot pursuit, which this is, so if he crosses over to another state, the law enforcement from dallas,
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texas that are pursuing him right now have the right to go into the next state and pursue him. so there's no jurisdiction that, oh, i crossed the line, you can't get me anymore. >> if they run the plate, they know what, if any, prior record this suspects has and i assume that that would also tell them whether the person is likely to be armed. would you make that assumption, as well? >> here's one of the things you always go with. you go with the premise that the person could be armed or is armed until you prove differently. when we make a gun arrest, we never stop to search when we find one gun. we go with the assumption there could be a second gun. again, safety is paramount. and car stops and domestic violences are incidents where cops get killed and seriously injured the most. >> and you would never do a road block, would you? >> you know what, not -- if there was no traffic there, there are things you can set up,
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but the road block, you'll have damage. you're going to have a collision. someone might get hurt seriously. but we've got a lot of cars, a lot of law enforcement cars coming in on this. so somewhere along the line, there will be some sort of stop. they may even have the spike strips set up totally across the highway and traffic is being deviated off on one of the exits further down the highway. >> it's amazing that someone would take a fairly low order of misdemeanor, driving off without paying for gas, and escalate to one of the most serious felonies this is. i assume it could be attempted murder of a police officer, which in texas i emergency could carry an awfully stiff penalty. >> in new york city, and i'm sure it's the sale thing all over the united states, assault on a police officer is what we call assault two and that's a
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high felony. >> punishableab by -- >> seven years in jail or higher. >> okay. well, we're on i-45, have been for a while. >> they're in innis. so this whole chase has been happening through multiple countieses. that's why there are three different jurisdictions at least county wise, police who are pursuing this truck. you can see that the cop car out in front of the truck, they're trying to, gis, get around him in different way, different man you've, talking about speck strips to possibly get this individual to stop. we've been watching this here live on "hln" for the last 20 minutes or so, but the pursuit we're told has been taking place, gosh, an hour, hour and 11 minutes or so. >> you see two police cars right there right now. this could be, i don't know if
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it is, this could be the beginning of the box situation. >> so explain that. >> what happens is you get two cars in front or you get two cars one in the front and one in the back, and when you have an area open where there is no traffic, you try box them in. the lead car gets behind him and goes slower and slower and the one behind him starts to, you know, get in on his rear. and it's called the box situation. >> who is to say that the truck driver wouldn't ram the police car? >> he may well do that. >> and that's what you're talk you go about just some terms of these police officers putting their lives in danger to stop this guy. >> absolutely. the truck right now, that truck can do a pit maneuver on the li police car. >> that looks hikelike a dps ofr trailing him and a local police in the front.
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>> we have a city wide frequency that we're able to communicate car to car. and they have what they call a point to point system where they have county, state and local where they can go on one frequency. there aretiple frequency, and one is a point to point where they can all talk together. so they have that communication ability. >> they just say go to channel whatever. >> all units switch to channel c. >> it doesn't look like the spike strips worked. i think that's a fair assumption. the wet pavement obviously that presents a challenge, but as you say, they may be starting to box this driver in. thankfully the traffic is pretty light. now it looks like they're peeling back and they'll let him pass again. let just watch and see what happens. he has never been off the freeway system in over an hour, he or she. the suspect is wanted for assault on a police officer,
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that being trying to run over a police officer who was responding to a report, i guess, of a driver driving off without paying at a gas station in grayson county. we're talking several miles north of dallas. the pursuit began there, it went through collin county, which is immediately north of dallas, and is now in or near dallas proper on interstate 45. it is the noon hour, it's 12:14 central daylight, very light traffic thankfully. a few truckers, but that's about it. they tried a few spike strip man urs without any success so far. the driver's been going pretty much at highway speeds although at one point speeded up and looks to be going a little bit faster than highway speed. it's hard to gauge, but i would assume that everybody around there knows it's a pursuit in progress and they're slowing down if they're not entirely pulling off. there was trucker pulling out. a lot of people are on the side on the apron here.
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they're giving as much ground as they possibly can to save themselves an sad save other d r drive drivers. the chase continues on i-45. >> if you notice, he was staying parallel to him, which is an indication that they could try to keep him in that express lane for the spike strips so he doesn't deviate over to the right. >> or off an exit ramp and taking this whole thing into secondary roads, correct some. >> correct. secondary roads that the hour are nat good choice. >> it's not clear if they have been in contact with him. i think the assumption would be they haven't, but we don't really know. it's been over an hour. is there anytime limit on this? time is on your side, right? >> never a time limit.
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time will go on and on. there's always a tour at 4:00 and 12:00. they'll stay with it as listening as they have to. >> there's overtime involved, is that what you're saying? >> there's always overtime especially for the arresting officer. the process hch-but this is, you know -- there might be more to the picture. unless the person is scared. because petit larceny is a mi misdemeanor. but the fact that he assaulted a police officer, that changes everything. all bets are off on this particular situation. >> what's the trick in laying down spike vips? they tried three times apparently without success. >> the trick is not knowing -- the driver not knowing where they are or seeing them thrown out. the hard part about it is you have to worry about other traffic that have nothing to do with this that might run those
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spike strips. that's why you try get ahead of this particular person and have other people exit off the highway and have them in an area where he didn't see them placed. so it's all a game of timing, cat and mouse, and right place, right time. >> absolutely. mike brooks on the line, too. how are you do somethiyou doing? have you been watching this? >> yeah, he's now -- he or she now looking like is he southbound on 45, has just left dallas county and now into ellis county. >> he's not in dallas county anymore? >> apparently he is now going to ellis county. it's unusual that we've seen this guy, he has stayed on the interstate. and has not gone to any side streets. what we see a lot of times is somebody who is being chased,
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nell they'll go it an area that they're familiar with. but he's stayed on the interstate for over an hour we know that he's wanted for assaulting a police officer, i guarantee you that they are going to chase him probably until the wheels fall off. >> if he has a full tank of gas, it could be corpus christi. >> is that's exactly right. >> one of those he could get 400 miles out of those things. we don't know who is behind the wheel, but apparently a drive-off situation is what res plea s precipitated it. and then apparently tried to run over a sheriff's deputy. and this chase has gone for almost an hour and a half and is now heading south, i think still on i-45. i've not seen him -- entering navarro county now.
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we've got a lot of jurisdictions here. every time they pick up another county, what happens? do those agencies respond, as well or do they just let the cars that are in this pursuit continue it? >> they'll usually go ahead and get one of the units from that particular county, some of the other ones will drop off. but the one when has the eyeball, the one who started the chase will pursue the car along with department of public safety, the equivalent of texas highway patrol, if you will. and as wally was saying, there is a mutual aid frequency in texas that they can switch to, so one unit going from one jurisdiction it another injuries dick to jurisdiction to another jurisdiction, this can he xhomm all the way as well as from the ground and on in the air. and that's probably how they planned on putting down the
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spike strips. decide to go ahead, get a particular area, use the spike strips which was to no avail. but sill very, re dangerous to law enforcement and to the public who's in the root of this chase. >> and, wally, again, the agencies that have moved fast and gone ahead of him, there's at least four that i've counted, again tell us, i hate to ask you to -- what do you think they're up to? >> basically they have and at tack plan in lays. they probably are going further down the highway where he won't see and probably put some more spike strips out. one of the other things that mike had mentioned with coordination with the other law enforcement, the other jurisdictionses will be working also on those streets should in fact this particular person decides to it at that time streets. they'll stop the traffic at the lights so they can continue this this in a safe fashion. but there must be another tact plan that's in place further on
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down this highway and i'm sure we'll be seeing it. >> further down the highway, i guess if you look at the map, we were looking at 45 takes you to houston. so let's say you're a member of the houston police department. what might you be doing tactically speaking to aid in this pursuit and hopefully put to a stop? >> get rid of a lot of the traffic that's on that road where the pursuit is taking place. have vehicles that are ahead exit off that highway so we have less traffic so they can have an opportunity to use multiple tactical plan, when a box, a pit maneuver, a spike vistrip? >> how far ahead do you think police are planning? >> i would think with the communication system that they have, it would be relatively maybe a mile or two ahead. >> and, mike, are you still on the line? >> let me ask you maybe if you could weigh in as well on just the different options. as we watch this car fly down
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this highway, what are the different options? we've seen attempts at -- unsuccessful attempts at spike strips. what are other maneuvers that police and these cop cars can do to stop this guy or gal in. >> it's difficult because as we have seen with the spike strip, just laying them out will is a difficult. we've had a number of officers killed in the line of duty this year involved some vehicle pursuits. and also as was mentioned, the pit maneuver. basically just trying to by the this person out and see if they run out of gas. but if he has a full tank of gas, he could go past houston. k he could go a long way. but the main thing is the safety of the public. that's what you're worried about. because you always have to assume that this person inside this vehicle could be armed and dangerous. you really don't know exactly,
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you know, what it was that brought this person who decided to run from the police. and everybody thinks that they'll be able to run from the police and they're not. but we see this car now looks like he's going maybe 65, 70 now this and out of traffic moving right along. and one of the other things, too, that truckers, they go along, they have a citizens band radio system, they talk to each other also down the road and sometimes they can provide law enforcement with intelligence of what is up ahead, also. because if he's going 65 miles an hour, that's basically at 60 miles that's a mile a minute that that person is going along the highway. so up ahead as they're trying to make plans well ahead now, it looked like for a minute that he was going to try to go off the road. here he is now going off on on -- >> on the shoulder almost. >> on the shoulder, yeah. now he's back. he was trying to avoid spike
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strips it looked like. >> well south of dallas on i-45. corsicana is the town i'm trying to remember the name of. and we're talking maybe two hours or less from the houston metro area. do they care whether he get there is to that traffic in. >> absolutely. because if you figure there is a lot of truck around houston. they're in smrl time zone, so they're kind of lunch hour rush time, if you will. and by the time he gets down there, it's going to be pushing rush hour on a holiday friday. so there will be a lot of people on the road. i was just out here in atlanta with my work friends and there's a lot of traffic just out in the atlanta area already. so houston is very congested, but they've got to be planning well ahead and probably telling
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them you have a chase coming your way. you also have to think about the helicopter. they'll have to get another air unit up because that chopper will have to come down for fuel sometime and you don't want to lose the eyeball on this person especially from the air. because that allows your coordination. >> is it just me or does it look like the car is bumping along perhaps as though it has fallen upon some of the spike strips? >> does to me. >> it could very well, because the back left -- the back rear tire looks like it's going down on the rim a little bit. definitely doesn't look like it has any run flat tires. so it definitely looks hike that's one of those spike strips had an effect on that. we haven't seen the tire spread like -- >> there we go. >> there it goes, yeah. >> and it looked like they veered off. so as this car is slowing down,
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now what? unfortunately, shot is so tight that we can't see the patrol cars behind them. i imagine we're about to. now what, mike? >> well, as i said, you always have to be prepared that this guy or woman, whenever they stop, there's always the possibility they could bail out. and i guarantee you that in one of the first three vehicles behind this person is a k-9 you want. we see that a lot of times they'll come up with the dog because if this that person runs, they won't outrun a german shepard. so you always have to be prepared for a felony car stop. if the person does not bail, they'll try to get the person via pa system to turn the engine off, reach around with their left hand, take the key, put them out the car. but that's down the road. first we have to get the vehicle stopped. >> the fact that it's disabled, wally, does it make the pit
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maneuver more or less problematic? >> it's more problematic because the balance is off on the vehicle and if it was on high speed, it loses control. what mike mentioned is so true. they'll treat this as a felony and go through all the procedures needed for the safety of both the officers and the particular person operating that vehicle and the other cars in the area. >> moving much, much slower, perhaps half the speed of earlier, but cheerily the left rear tire is gone. he's on the rim, which obviously the mobility is diminished and certainly the steering capacity is greatly diminished. he's running out of options, but not running out of real estate. he is on i-45 approaching the halfway point between dallas and houston.
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this start the a ked a couple o countieses north of dallas. a driveoff was the original car and this man or woman is wanted for assault on a police officer trying to run down a share rev's deputy who may have been responding to that crime seen. this chase has been a lot of time and assets. there is a police helicopter in pursuit. again, we're talking about an area maybe 60 miles south of there is perhaps approaching corsicana on a route that would lead it houston. we're at least 50 miles south of dallas as this chase continues. >> we have been talking to our experts here, mike brooks, wally zeins, trying to understand which what may be happening. again, it's been happening since right around 11:00 their time. so just about an hour and a half in ou now. the good news, the back left tire is shredded. so that truck likely going half
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the speed as it was earlier. >> it's either an exit ramp or -- yeah, it looks like he's going off an exit ramp. guys, what do you think? >> yeah, it looks like the first time he's gone off on an exit ramp on the interstate. and if he decides to go off road with that rear tire, he's not going to get very far because he won't have traction. >> wet pavement, too. >> exactly. and one of the other things, too, we notice that it looks like he's got very tintsedded w tibts itted windows. so they'll have to use extreme caution because they won't see much of what's going on inside the cab of that truck. so that's just another thing that the officers will have to deal with is the tintsed wed wi of that truck. >> we say male or female, but they know. >> they should. >> for texans who may be watching, this is exit 232 off
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interstate 45, called rome road. i'm other, roane road. well south of dallas. maybe an hour south of dallas. and it's in a very rural area. he or she is just crawling along right now. the pursuit continues. it's in the clear when they deployed any assets or anybody's trying to box this driver in. it would -- it seems unlikely because they didn't know what exit the driver would take, but clearly it changes the dynamic of this chase considerably now that they're in a rural area, but on on surface streets and off the interstate hooighway system. you can see what's left of the rim on that left rear is causing a lot of problems. a lot of rain. man, a lot of rain. standing water on the road. again, a driver that is running out of options. wanted for assault on a police officer, perhaps an hour and a
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half ago. and now the driver is turning left. not clear what his intentions are. any reason to believe, guys, either one of you that he's in an area they're familiar with? >> i wouldn't get off the interstate if i wasn't familiar with the roads and run right into a dead end. as i said earlier, usually we see people go to areas that they're familiar with during a chase. so that's always a possibility that maybe he is from this area, has friends or associates, relatives from this area and you knows soyou -- and he knows some of the back roads. but it's a plus for law enforcement because they'll be able to lay down another spike strip if they can get the sheriff's office to get out in front of them. >> do you become more aggressive if you're in an area like this, if it's rural, you don't have to worry about bystanders and things like that?
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>> you have to follow the law in the sense that the what you e enforcement is doing exactly what they're professionally trained to do. geographically, the streets are a lot tougher than the highway. i would think this particular driver wants to get back on the highway only because, you know, i don't think he or she knows where he's going. >> well, it's a guy. he's got a beard. >> looks like a male, definitely. >> an on the phone at the time. >> windows rolled down. we're getting a really good look thousand. now. >> could be making a deal. >> who might he be talking to? >> he could be talking to the police who have captured his cell phone number. >> he's waving. >> he could be talking to a relative. >> and and, you know, he also could be in edp, an emotionally disturbed person, that just doesn't care. >> are you kidding me? he's waving. >> has nothing to lose.
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>> well, you can't second guess anything. >> absolutely. well, the worst that could happen would be he tries to take a hostage. but there's been no indication of that. apparently there's only one person in the car. we can confirm it is male, a bearded subject who has been talking on the cell phone. the window was down of this ford f-150, pursued by several jurisdictions. again, the chase began an hour and 40 minutes ago roughly. a couple of counties north of dallas. assault on a police officer. it hardly gets more serious than that. and there's a lot of challenges, not the least among them the wet pavement and the fact that this truck is disabled and this guy is clearly desperate to get away. no telling what his game plan is. i doubt he really has thought it through. he's just taking it moment by moment. but an hour and 40 minutes into a chase, assault on a police officer is the charge. very slow pursuit on roane road,
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the driver having exited interstate 45 and how in a rural area between dallas and houston. look at this. look how close he was to that police car trailing him. >> he also could have committed another crime somewhere else that we don't even know about. key ha he could have stolen that truck or committed a more serious offense and was running out of gas and decided the heck with it, i'm going to get gas and take off on had one. >> he's in the city of corsicana, we're told. and there's a map of corsicana. pretty good sized town. to reason to believe he got off there for any particular reason. it doesn't look like he has a route that he's trying to follow, he's just trying around, but evening he was probably motivated by the fact that he lost his left rear tire. is that your guess, guys? >> yes, most likely. and one of the other things
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they've done is to get a listing on that tag number. if, in fact, it is his truck, they can find out exactly where he lives, have someone go out to talk to someone at his house, find out -- maybe that's how they got the cell in that. speculative, but these are things and it's because they've had a lot of time since it started to do some of these things if they were able to. >> wally, you're a negotiator by trade. what would they have been talking to him about on his cell phone? what would be the tradeoff for him? >> the tradeoff would be that if it was an attempted assault on a police officer, it's not as serious as an assault. it's a petit larceny. we can talk to you, you know, we'll talk to the district attorney, pull over for your safety, our safety and the public's safety. just get a dialogue going, talk with the guy. tell him it's something that we can work out together, if you just pull over, we can sit down
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and talk it man-to-man. >> you don't go anger, right some. >> no. no anger at all. >> no worst case scenario, you're in a world of hurt, we're going going to take you down. nothing like that. >> we're here to help you, be a part team. >> that's fascinating. you and i ought to have a long talk. he's on clearly a rural stretch of road in corsicana and we hope for everybody's sake that he doesn't approach or get anywhere near a bystander. >> i don't think he has a clear where he's going. >> i don't think so either. he's boxed in. he got around that police car. we're in the end stages of this clays, it's clear. he has one disabled wheel. he's driving on the left rear rim of this ford f-150. and this thing is going to end pretty soon. that is at least our best guess. boy, it's been raining a hot there.
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that's certainraining a lot mo but you have to know that sirens are blaring. everybody knows in the neighborhood that there is a pursuit or some police activity understand way. again, a man being pursued for assault on an officer. in this case a sheriff deputy in grayson county, two counties no. >> narrator: dallnorth of dalla. it began before the noon hour -- i'm sorry, 11:00 hour dallas time. and it's been going on for an hour and 45 meants. now in the city of corsicana just off interstate 45. the driver pursued on 5 f45 for most of this chase. didn't look like he was weaving in and out of traffic, or erratic or trying to take anybody out, but he made three
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m maneuvers to avoid spike strips three different times an apparently on the fourth occasion when you could see him weaving along the road trying to quickly change lanes, one of those spike strips took effect and now he is plowing lieu ra i rain covered streets, apparently still talking on his cell phone. now he's on a somewhat busier street of corsicana and we're continuing to follow this. we don't know how and when it will end. but there are many techniques. again, we're on city streets. what changes here, guys, for the takedown? >> you have at bit more area to work with, chuck. and, again, the put more people in danger when you get back on to a thoroughfare like this. but then again, also, there's always a possibility they could get him boxed in, but you don't want to put the lives of any officers in danger by putting
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them out in front of him if possible. looks like now he's getting back on to an interstate. >> it sure does. >> and that's where he has been chased most of time this afternoon. but with that left rear wheel disabled and just riding on the rim, eventually that rim will break down, too, especially if it's an aluminum rim. it won't last a long time either. >> how do you keep the adrenalin in check if you're pursuing this guy? is that a problem? >> right in the beginning of a chase, sometimes your adrenalin is pumping, but as it gets going, it's ban over an hour and 45 minutes. you kind of settle back down and you just try to -- you you worry about keeping this guy in sight, keeping this person from wrecking in to somebody else. those are the things that concern you about what's up ahead. a supervisor will decide whether or not we'll take this guy.
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i think probably in matter what had happened, if there had not been an assault on a police officer, you may have seen them break off the chase. but when you've got an apo like in and a possibility of this guy being armed and dangerous, they'll continue the pursuit like they have. >> you mentioned the possibility of being an emotionally disturbed person. it looks like the driver is getting off the freeway again. i'm pot entirely clear about that. do you know that because you've run the plate and you know who the driver is, or because of the behavior of the driver? >> well, a little of both. a, the behavior of 9 driver waving and throwing a kiss to the helicopter, secondly, if the detect it differences were able to interview the family if in fact that truck is his and the fact that someone in the family says he has a problem. there go as pit maneuver. they'll try it on the other side now. >> better to try it on the side where he goes in -- where you can dump him into the dirt and then he won't be able to get any
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traction back. but, yeah, that pursuing officer just fell a little bit short. he's trying to get him with his push bumper instead of using the whole force into the left rear quarter panel. but it didn't work. >> not all cruisers or patrol cars have them. >> they use those bumpers for people like that get stuck either on the highway or they alleviate damage to the vehicle itself, the police vehicle. >> we're in a rural stretch here, that's clear. would you ever just -- nobody cowboys up and just goes after this guy. it's a very it displeases ca di. >> they have the plan hrd in place. it's just a question of timing
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when to put it into effect. >> different jurisdictions, you know, they are different rules an and regulations. so they'll go by what their book says and if they get a chance, it depends on what the rules and regulations are. >> we just saw an overpass. if you did a pits maneuver near an overpass, it could be fatal. >> absolutely sglp a. >> and also this is a two way highway. >> i guess the best opportunity was back there at the end of that exit ramp when he was almost stopped. not clear what's in the back of the truck. some sort of perhaps household items. nothing that looks awfully dangerous, but it's hard to tell. the windows's rolled back up, this is it a beera bearded male. all of the dallas stations are in pursuit and they're a long
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way from home and getting even further. corsicana about 60 miles or so from dallas/ft. worth. the assault began approaching two hoursing ing ing a north of and the chase understand way south of 45. we're this corsicana texas. we had heard that he was on 7th avenue, which is one of the main drag, but i don't think that's still the case. he's turned to another highway. did he briefly he did briefly go back on what looked like a highway. now a two lane rain slickeded friday on this friday before columbus day. the pursuit continues. it's up to two hours in length. this is a guy who is wanted f e assault on a police officer. the spike strips finally took hold on the third or fourth attempt and the left rear tire has been disabled. he continues to drive on the rim of that ford f-150 peckup truck.
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anything you want to add, guys? >> the only thing i can say -- mike, go ahead. >> you you always worry, even talks about the guy running out of gas, but you always -- the police officers, that's why whenever i got below half a tank, you always topped off. there's always a concern that could you get in a chase like this, at least i always -- there was always my concern. and that's why whenever you get below a half as a law enforcement officer, you want to top that tank off. >> exactly right. that's an east/west rule of thumb. the other thing that's positive is the fact it's raining. rain always helps law enforcement especially in this type of situation. crime is less when it's raining and it also impedes his driving in the sense of speed. >> would you ever stage a road block? >> it depends. it depends -- keep in mind, road
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blocks kaet a lot of damage. either damage to his vehicle, the between vehicles that are blocking, it's going to be taking out a lot of cars out of service. it depends on the law enforcement agency and also what they want to do. for this particular situation here, they seem to have it under control. they'll stay with it. right now it's moving along. it will take time and, again, time is on their side. so why add salt on the wound. >> exactly. all right, we'll it take a quick break. if anything happen, we'll break off with the break and come right back. be right back in a minute.
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we're almost two hours in to a police chase in the north texas area. it began in grayson county north of dallas, went through collin
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county, fpursued i-45, to where we are right now, corsicana, three counties are chasing a gray pickup truck be driven by a male who is being sought for assault on a police officer. there's also one helicopter that has joined this pursuit. this all started around 11:00 central daylight in collin county and has wound up down here in corsicana. it appeared to be nothing more serious than a driveoff at a gas station. somebody who tried to pull away without paying. and when the driver reached the city of melissa, officers said they tried to stop the vehicle using road spikes in an attempt to dodge them, police say he nearly hit the chief of police again in melissa, texas, so what appeared to be the fourth attempt at throwing down spike strips and the driver was able to maneuver away from all other
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attempts at disabling his wheels. that spike apparently tore through the driver's rear tire, left rear tire. so he's now moving a lot more slowly on these rain slick streets. law enforcement analyst mike brooks is with us on the phone as well as former nypd hostage negotiator wally zeins, both of whom have been in situations like this. you guys think we're near the end of this thing or could it go on indefinitely? >> if he just left the gas stays, he has a whole tank of gas. it could go on for a while. but my question is does navarro county have any kind of armored personnel carrier that we've seen sometimes use to maybe block or stop him instead of using regular patrol cars. that has been used in the past. we've seen that happen, had one chase down in miami we saw one time. can they get another car in front of him to box him in on streets like this? >> wouldn't this be the right
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place to do it, wally, what do you think in. >> right now i would say it's the right place to do a pit maneuver or block it off because it's so rural. we don't see any oncoming traffic to him. the traffic behind him is being blocked off. a fairly good situation unless there's more to the picture that they have intelligence that they found out and they don't want to -- they're waiting. >> about him? >> about him. >> and what might that be? >> possibly what happened before all this went down today that he could be wanted for something else. >> right, a higher crime. maybe he's wanted for a homicide. >> policed it agaimissed it aga. just a gentle tap. doing pretty well for a guy with three tires. it's kind of a mazing. no telling how this thing will end. it's coming up on two hours old now at this point. again, a man wanted for assault on a police officer driving over
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or trying to drive over the chief of police of melissa texas responding to report of a driver leaving without paying at a gas station. a seemingly low end crime, a misdemeanor clearly, which has has escalated into a major, major case. this is a lot of people pursuing this guy. but thankfully, it is of off of a busy highway. it moved through dallas without any incident. i-45 is the main artery that connects dallas and houston. again, the incident itself began nor of dallas and moved through the city proper. a large metropolitan area. and this driver was able to negotiate and maneuver around all the attempts at throwing out spike strips but finally the for you one succeeded. now he is in corsicana. it is about an hour south of dallas. we don't know what his intentions are. he is weaving a little bit more. two attempts at a pit maneuver both failed. one about five minutes earlier
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than the other. and he continues on the streets in corsicana in what appears to be a very rural area. very little traffic. >> you mentioned something before. mike mentioned before about the darkened windows. that type of ford vehicle that he's driving has a small back seat. he may be, a thought, he could maybe have a child in the back and that's why they didn't want to do a pit maneuver. there might be someone back there. >> look at this maneuver. what have we got going? we've got the box going. that's the box maneuver. >> they're trying to do a rolling roadblock in front of him. but not to any avail right now. great positioning. they can take him out right about there. but -- >> would you need a car behind him to complete this? >> they do have a car behind
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him. they're going to use that other car to start the process of -- >> he has his window down. are they trying to talk to him? >> they could be talking to him or using the p.a. to tell the driver to pull over. that's always a possibility. >> i don't think he is going to obey. >> no. imagine. that. >> no kidding. >> two hours into a chase, why would he? >> no telling whether he is armed or telling what his demeanor might be. clearly though, somebody who drives, allegedly drives off without paying at a gas station and who just ramps up this thing all the way to assaulting a police officer is not in his right mind. >> no. >> sure. special lay police chief if he is in uniform. >> what's the protocol of stopping someone you think might be armed? >> there is a whole procedure, chuck. basically called a felony car
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stop. after they get the vehicle stopped and we've seen this a number of times, they will have the driver show his or her hand out the window. in this case, this guy's hand. they'll have him reach around with his left hand to the steering column, throw out the keys, open the door, step out with their back to the officers behind him. have him step away from the vehicle in case there are any weapons he would go for. usually have him walk back toward the rear of the vehicle, then get down on his knees, cross his legs behind him and then they come and throw him out and handcuff him and take him into custody. that's the ideal. the tech book stuff that we see only very, very few times at the end of some of these changes. >> anything in the police activity that suggests to you that they know this guy is a little bit unstable or they're treating him differently in some respects? >> well, they are treating him differently because there is an opportunity right now in the geographical location to do the
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maneuvers. but in relationship, they might have some intelligence on him that they're very concerned about. and he may be totally unstable. he may have had a past where he has a weapon. it is a lot easier out of certain areas to have a shotgun in the back of your pickup truck. they may think, they may have run his gun licenses to see if he has any or rifles, and he may be a gun collector. who knows? he may be not stable. >> how about suicidal? he may have communicated on a cell phone. i've got nothing to live for. >> that's right. and a lot of things in relationship to suicide by cop have been happening. where he may want to end it all. and that's a very, very serious thing. because it all comes back to the police officer. so you know, they have to handle this with kid gloves. >> your instinct is he is wanted for something he will or has
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something else he is running from? >> exactly. there is something he is running from. you don't just run off for paying for 20 gallons of gas and then try to run over the chief of police of a jurisdiction, and then continue the pursuit without going ahead and pulling it over and taking the consequences. there is something else. that's jut my speculation. that there is something else that happened. either today or within the last 24 hours that he's wanted for. >> i agree with you, mike. >> all right. we're a good two hours into this. it started a couple counties nor of dallas. a man is wanted and we do know it is a male behind the wheel of a 150 ford pickup truck which has been pursued for that period of time all the way down i-45 and corsicana from collin county and grayson county. and they've tried several different technique to try to pull this guy over. they have disabled his left rear tire. but he continues to drive flang
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or around corsicana without much difficulty, apparently. they've tried a couple of pit maneuvers, gently tapping the rear of the truck. but apparently, he got away. he obviously got away. apparently they did it so gently that it didn't affect his driving much. again, he is disabled only in the respect of that left rear tire gone. he is on the rim but he continues on a highway in the corsicana area being pursued for assault on a police officer. we're not entirely clear what else he may be charged with or is wanted for. but obviously, they've had a chance to run his plate. they know who he is. they know what record he may have. and whether he is likely to be armed. would you know what kinds of weapons he owns, eone of you? wally first. what do you think? >> he had any registered weapons. whether long rifles or handguns. they would know that. keep in mind, in this day and age, it is easy to get
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unregistered weapons. he may have. he may be a collector. who knows? >> okay. we're going to take a break for some cable operator in about a minute, i want to warn you ahead of time, for others, we're going to stick with this. it is quite a fascinating police chase. we've covered a lot of them. some of them last minutes, some of them last several hours. we can't glean or divine any intent on the part of this driver. there is no pattern here that either one of our law enforcement analysts has been able to pick up to determine what they think this guy may be up to. but it is the opinion of both of them and perhaps you as well that he perhaps is wanted for something else besides just driving off without paying at a gas station. clearly, he is being sought for assault on a police officer. the police officer in texas was almost run over, allegedly best of my recollection this driver. a male who has been seen talking to a cell phone.
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we can only speculate that he was talking to ofgsers pursuing him. there have been several attempts to try, i think, to negotiate an end to this. about five minutes ago, one of the cruisers pulled up. you can see that his, that is the driver's window was down and he was looking to the left and it looked like he may have been talking to the officer. now, what is the fuel capacity of an f-150? is it 30 gallons? co-he go like 400 miles or so? >> probably. and if he has the extra optional tank put in there, he can double it. >> no kidding. >> we have to reason to believe the truck is stolen, do we? >> no, not right now. the law enforcement may know that. because of running the tags, it would come back. if it was stolen, the crime information center that it was in fact stolen but we don't know that for sure.
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>> i was going to say, look how rural that is. there are so many opportunities to do something. that's what gets me, makes me think that there is more to the picture. >> a lot more. >> yeah. >>
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the action that they did. >> finally, let's all, gentlemen, take a collective sigh of relief. this thing is over. we have watched this police pursuit for the last 2:05 or so. we've been watching the last hour plus here on hln. i want to thank wally zein and mike brooks to providing your expertise for what has happened here. the final ending of this police pursuit through five different counties in texas, because of a gas drive-off and an sexual assault a police officer. my colleague, veteran, professional colleague, chuck roberts, thank you so much for sitting alongside. >> it all ends in corsicana, tex. >> in a puddle will. >> everyone goes home tonight. >> you got it. >> thank you. >> let's move on here. . the other big story of the day, we're talking about the president. it is hard to describe just how much of a shock this year when's nobel peace prize announcement
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was. before the buzz thog, the buzz around the award really centered on a human rights activist in afghanistan, a disdment china, among others. also, the announcement in oslo, norway. the audience actually gasped. listen to this. >> barack obama for extraordinary results -- >> wow! >> a few comments later, the chairman of the norwegian nobel prize committee repeated in it english. >> the norwegian nobel committee has decide that had the nobel peace prize for 2009 is to be awarded to president barack obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. >> we've also heard from the president today. mr. obama admits he did not exactly expect to wake up this morning a nobel peace prize
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winner. there he is at the white house. he said he is not sure he deserves to be in the company of past winners who have had so much impact on the world, but he will step award in oslo in december and view it as a call to action to people everywhere. >> i am both surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the nobel committee. let me be clear. i do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments. but rather as an after playing of american leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people of all nations. >> there is a pretty hefty prize related to it. but president obama will be donating that entire $1.4 million cash prize to charity. a bunch of people are reactioning including the former presidential nominee and a former republican presidential nominee will they are agreeing on one thing here. president obama's nobel peace
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prize is in honor for america. >> no bell committee, i can't divine all their intentions but i think part of their decision making was expectations. and i'm sure the president understand that's he now has even more to live up to. but as americans, we're proud when our president receives an award of that prestigious category. >> are you surprised. >> well, i think all of us were surprised at the decision. but i think americans are always pleased when their president is recognized by something on this order. >> i think it is an honor for our country. an honor for him first and foremost, of course, but an honor for our country. i think it is extremely well deserved. >> mr. obama, by the way, is the for you president to have ever won the nobel peace prize.
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third sitting president. i-reporters, they have a lot to say here. they have been weighing in as well. the responses have been mixed. ryan from los angeles had this to say. >> i thought to might have, does obama really deserve the nobel peace prize? and thinking about it, i would say maybe. yeah. sure, why not? we went from diplomacy that was awful for the eight speier bush was in office. we went into he go by ourselves, with ourselves, with maybe britain and we went into places where people didn't want us and we didn't deserve to be. we come to a world where the standing of the usa is a lot better than it used to be. a met 180 from what people thought of the usa before. we are respected again in the world. we have our moral authority. and we talk to people.
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>> another response to share from you. this one from joe in virginia. a bit of a different take on the nobel's decision. i want to read it to you here. joe from virginia, our thank you to ryan and joe. go to the website and let us know what you think. text us, call us, send us an e-mail. the question, is it a good thing that president obama has won the nobel peace prize? call or e-mail us.
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big story out of chicago we've been following on hln. a story of teen violence. in chicago, richard daley now sending dozens more police officers to schools and school bus stops to try to curb this teen violence. it is in reaction to the recent beating death. do you remember the story? the 16-year-old honor student. it happened at a bus stop. others say it was blamed on gangs in the city and they are giving money to help get students jobs. some teens now trying to get more involved. >> since we're the ones doing the killings and we're the ones getting killed, the youth needs to step up. we need to bring a change. >> four teenagers have been charged in the deadly beating of darren albert last month. and a driver ended up in a ditch and could not get out. it was not exactly because she was hurt. it was because she was wasted. it turns out she was a city official and her arrest was caught on camera.
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take a good look at this video. the police department released this video of the dui arrest. deborah's car ended up in a ditch back in june. they smelled alcohol when they arrived. there she is, can't quite walk. they had to carry her. the video shows an officer taking mini bottles of wine from the car there. they are about six of them. she did plead guilty. she said she will not be running for re-election. there are women in every community who motivate, inspire, innovate. mickey is one of them. she has work speshlg ever special needs kids and encouraging them to participate in the dance of life. robin meade has more in our series, "breakthrough women." >> reporter: their joy, their
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love. their accomplishments. >> did you a great job. many other very proud of you. >> reporter: that's what drives mickey cassella to get up on saturday mornings and dance. she is director of physical therapy at children's hospital boston. she has been there for more than 40 years. >> when you work with children that have special needs, there is not a whole lot out there for them as far as extracurricular activity. i really thought if we could find some type of activity, that they could participate in together, we all like to be with our peers. >> reporter: she is also a physical therapy wist the boston ballet. she combined her two worlds and formed a dance program for children with down syndrome seven years ago profl fegsal dancers teach kids moves, while cassella lends a helping hand. 68-year-old cassella decided to back physical therapist in high school. she was inspired by a child who learned to walk despite having a crippling disease. >> i thought that would be a
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wonderful thing to do. to help children with some type of a disvag to learn how to function in society. >> reporter: now she hopes to inspire others to do what they can to help. >> you can't just pay lip service to something. you have to live it. the announcement that president obama has won the nobel peace prize came as a complete surprise to everyone, including the president. what do you think about the honor the president is receiving? we will share your views on hln.
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breaking news out of corsicana where a police chase has just ended. about a dozen patrol cars from three counties in the area chased this ford finish 150 pumt for two hours. at least one law enforcement helicopter joined the pursuit. it all started around 11:00 a.m. and ended up moments ago. we've been watching this whole thing unfoed before us. and a very rural area in a pond behind a tree. literally. take a look. approximately 50 miles south of dallas. officials stay incident began when the suspect tried to drive away from a gas station without paying. an employee from the gas station started following the driver, called police. so then when the driver reached the city of melissa, drivers say
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they tried to stop the driver you'ving road spikes. you see that back left tire, it is gone because of the road spikes. in an attempt to dodge them, he nearly hit the chief of police. amazing. what appeared to be the fourth attempt using the spike strips. it tore through the driver's left rear tire. cops officially eventually boxed in the truck, forced him off the road there. arrested him. and he was talking on his cell phone as they pulled him out of car. unbelievable stuff there. also, he maybe couldn't believe it. the president, big news today. president obama winning the nobel peace prize. we want to know your views on this. we've been talking to a live view. let's continue this on the phone from louisiana. what did you think when you woke up this morning and heard this? >> i was thrilled. i wanted to call and congratulate him.
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because i think it is well tea served. i want to apologize -- i want to say that i was really offended by what michael steele said this morning. we all living in this country and we're all in this together. i'm just appalled. to make a comment like that. basically, this is america. you're free here to live it, love it or leave it. >> i want to cut you off and get to the next caller. thank you, danny from prescott, arizona. >> first, i would like to say as a disabled american veteran, i highly respect the duly elected president of our country. but i feel his nomination, i would like to know who nominated him and i believe it is absurd. what has he accomplished? as far as bringing peace. he can't even bring peace into his own adopted, if you will,
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home town of chicago. i would challenge president obama, he makes a decent wage will maybe there is some way he can donate this money. >> that's exactly what he's going to do. he is giving all $1.4 million. i want to thank both of you for calling in. continue calling, we'll be back.
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a police chase in texas now over. hln news and views. hi there. boi, oh, boy, what a day here. the pursuit there lasted a little more than two hours and went through at least five different counties. the driver is in custody now and likely to face multiple charges in all the different counties. officials stay chase began because of basically a gas drive-off. that happened in sherman, tex. that's when the suspect allegedly drove off without paying. after that, an employee from that gas station started following and then called police. when the driver finally received the city of melissa, officers tried to stop the truck using
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road spikes. the driver, we've been watching, just serve withed and swebed. the driver nearly hit the melissa chief of police. now the driver is accused of assaulting a police officer. so during the chase, police attempted at least two pit maneuvers. they failed. finally police stopped the truck in valley farms by bumping it several times from behind. you see it coming to a close. the truck landed in that water filled ditch. it has been raining a lot in tex. you see the driver pulled out, pushed to the ground. appeared to be still talking on the cell phone. unbelievable. it is hard to describe how much of a shock this year's nobel peace prize winner was. it centered on a human rights activist in afghanistan and others around the world. at the announcement in oslo, norway, the audience gasped when they heard the winner was president obama.
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>> barack obama for extraordinary -- >> a couple minutes later, the chairman of the committee repeated in it english. >> the norwegian nobel committee has decided that the nobel peace prize for 2009 is to be awarded to president barack obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. >> the announcement was the talk of the morning shows. today nbc's "today" show, "good morning america," and cbs's "early show" all really obsessed -- rather assessed the nobel committee's decision. on the "today" show they talked with the gasps of shock we just heard. >> how about those gasps? when the reporters were according this, they gasped in shock. this is a surprise. we're less than a area into this first material of this president
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and there are no, not trying to be rude, no major foreign polyachievements to date. why did he win? >> i think as it points out, this is more about tone than sub tan i have the comment. in many ways, this is a european body who is more left leaning, certainly, and opposed to the administration of george w. bush. >> white house aides do believe this will strengthen the president's hand both at home and abroad. >> i want to ask about that. a lot of key decisions being made ahead. it was specifically, what do you think the calculation, how does this factor in around the world when you make a decision in the middle east? >> it is almost as if this was an act of encouragement by the nobel prize commit sgreefl there will be a lot of criticism for the committee for that. the white house believes this will have the most tangible effect on their efforts to isolate iran and north korea will.
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>> the nobel committee said they awarded this for changing the tone of american politics. it is almost as if they're saying, we're giving you the nobel peace prize for winning the election. president bush was very you popular in europe and it is almost as if this is more of a comment on the previous administration than it is on the new one. we very seldom have people, i can't recall anybody who won this prize for his aspirations. people usually get it for results. >> so not to be outdone, the blogosphere buzzing with cheers and jeers for the president from the left. he said that the president's win would be hard to think of more electricity triidentifying or deserving recipient. by awarding the prize, the committee is placing hope that he will achieve real results. on the right side, michelle malkin believes he is reeling the prize not for anything he
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has done. rather for the symbolism of what he might possibly achieve way off in the future. malkin adds, it is the final nail in the nobel peace prize committee's action. snm top left, a completely different point of view. for preebz are unfathomable, he was awarded the nobel peace prize and encouraged the president turn down the prize saying it makes the committee look foolish. feign had i from eric erickson quoting, i didn't realize, the nobel peace prize had an affirmative action quota for and it that there is no 28 president earned the nomination. we want to hear from you. all kinds of sides, all kinds of partnerships. what do you think about the president winning this nobel peace prize? call us. tech us. don't forget your comments and your name. standard text rates do apply.
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another big story you might have seen this morning. nasa crashed a couple of spacecrafts on the surface of the moon all in an effort to find out if there is actually twlaert behind the barren surface. they first shot it to kick up some of the dust. a couple minutes later, nasa probe went through that cloud to prove if there is actually water. then it crashed into the moon. nasa calling this a successful but the space agency isn't quite ready to talk about the experiments if they kicked up water foreca water, and if so, how much. >> we saw the i have pact, we saw the carrot, and we have good measurements which is what we needed. the impact event. so we have the data we need to actually address the questions we sent out to address. that's the fundamental bottom line. that's what i hope you take away. i'm not going to say anything about water or no water. we got the measurements to
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address the question. >> nasa says it will be a short while before they can analyze the data to determine whether there is water on the moon surface. how about this at a chemistry lab? a you weucla student is in the hospital. a teaching assistant had to apply pressure to stop some of the bleeding. other students in the lab say the whole thing was just surreal. >> she was on the floor. her neck -- >> could you see that her neck had been cut? >> yeah. i saw that. >> it looked to be a serious injury? >> yeah. i thought she died. there was blood everywhere. >> she didn't thark goodness. the victim had surgery for mull mr. stab wounds. she is listed in stable condition. the suspect is being hoeld on $ million bail. and some interesting videos of a councilmember's did not up ia. have you seen this?
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draeb morelli's car ended up in a ditch. police smelled alcohol when they arrived so they had to pick her up and carry her out of the ditch. in addition, police picking up wine bottles out of the car. she needed guilty and said she will not be running for re-election. fresh produce into vending machines. this is for the battle against obesity. will people really pass on that bag of chips to grab some grapes or apples?
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prisoners turning to religion while locked up. that's not new.
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what is new is which religion they're increasingly you know the to. here's a look at who has, buddhism behind bars. >> sex offenders, seriously, brook, doing yoga. convicted drug offenders immediate taigt. this is part of a new push that is part of a story that's really popular on cnn.com right. now it is not facing, without facing obstacles as well. some people are saying you should not be teaching buddhism in prison will but some say, look, it helped them clear the minds, get in the right track. find peace in their surroundings. the prison dharma network said the impact is real. they are focusing, of course, on being transform i have the. here's the reason people don like it. they say it is only to impress the parole boards and they say others say th in predocument
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anly christian f rn a ty ona,prs ex tha and theedita ag>>in mayor daley is nding mor osers tohe schools and bus stops. th is a reaction to the beating death of that hop student, the 16-year-old at the us about stop. chicago also giving money to help give students jobs and some teen are trying to get more involved will. >> since we're the ones doing the killing and since we're the ones being killed, the youth needs to step up. >> four teenagers have been charged with the deadly vicious beating of dare-on albert last month. >> i'm jane velez-mitchell. when a bunch of black inner city teens got into a wild melee,
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some chalked it up to inner city violence. not so fast. one week later in new hampshire, four white teen are accused of stabbing a woman to death and hacking her daughter with a machete. this go way beyond black, white, urban, rural. teen violence is administratipl nation. is anybody surprised? swimming in violence, who is teaching our young people about peace. why is peace considered a kooky word? look at the alternative, for god's sakes will before we can have peace, we first have to imagine it. we can't even bring ourselves to do that. that's a problem. i'm jane velez-mitchell and that's my issue. >> we can find out what else she has on her mind. every night, 7:00 eastern right here hln. police in texas are honoring this cute little 5-year-old for saving her mom's life. just about a month ago, her mom
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cut an artery on her hand on a broken window. she was bleeding so profusely, she got her daughter to dial 911. >> she told me to get off phone from her pocket and call 9-1-1. >> that little one got three different awards including one give on the police officers when they save someone's life. the good news, her mom is doing okay. maybe not doing okay here. this guy because of an alligator. he attacked a 77-year-old man in south carolina on a golf course and bit off part of his arm. authorities say the man was just picking up the ball when the 10-foot, 400 pound gator pulled him into a nearby pond. his golf partner rushed over to free him. wildlife officials had to come in to try to capture the alligator. >> he was sitting close to the bank. we were going to try to put a
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noose basically, a snare cable over him. hen we approached him and almost had it over his head, he went under the water. we played cat and mouse for about 30 minutes. then we were finally able to get a snag line on it, a rope with a trouble hook. we brought him to the shore to dispatch him, pull him up, opened him up and removed the arm. ems was standing by to take it. >> the man was taken to the medical university of south caroli carolina. three scientists say they've had their cars and homes fire bombed and flooded a spokesman for the north american animal liberations press office says the researchers are the
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terroris terrorists. elvis presley's prescription pill bottle was already on the auction block. you would not believe how much his hair is worth.
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i am both surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the nobel committee. >> this year's nobel peace prize winner. never saw it coming. golf's reigning champ can add another honor to his limp, olympian. hln news and views on a friday before a holiday. hi, everybody. i'm chuck roberts. welcome. a police chase in texas is over. it was an ordeal. two hours as pliz went through
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five counties. there's the ending. the driver in custody liking facing several charges in all the counties. the chase began in sherman, texas, north of dallas. the suspect allegedly drove off from a gas station without paying. when the driver reached melissa, texas, the driver swerved to avoid strip spikes and almost hit the officer. they pumped him from behind. the driver is pulled from the truck. he appeared to still be talking on his cell phone as he walked out from the water. president obama admits he did not expect to wake up the nobel peace prize winner. he says he'll accept the honor at a december ceremony in olso, norway. he'll donate the cash prize to charity. he calls the award an affirmation of american leadership and not a personal accomplish
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accomplishment. >> to be honest i do not feel i deserve to be in the company of so many people inspired by the prize i ams know this reflects the kind of world that those men and women. michael steele is quick to weigh in. saying it's unfortunate the president's star power has outshined tireless advocates who have made real achievements towards peace and human rights. one they were thing is certain, president obama won't be receiving any awards for americans for job creation, fiscal responsibility, or backing up rhetoric with concrete action. just ahead, we'll share your views on the president receiving this honor. stay tuned for that.
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a car bomb killed at least 49 people in pakistan today. it's the deadliest suicide ever in pakistan. a nearby hospital quickly filled up with 135 people hurt from the blast. it got so crowded people that had to share gurneys. here's the scene in the philippines. rescuers are racing against the clock to pulled buried survivors out of dozens of massive landslides. it's the worst flooding the philippines has seen in decades. the death toll has climbed to more than 450 people. two usz u.s. navy ships are on standby. a ucla student is in the hospital of a fellow student slashed her throat. a teaching assistant applied pressure to the woman's neck to stop the bleeding. other students who were in the lab say the whole scene was surreal. >> she was on the floor.
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>> could you see her neck had been cut? >> yeah, i sauna. >> reporter: it looked serious? >> yeah, i thought she died. there was blood everywhere. >> the victim had surgery for multiple stab wounds. she's in stable condition. there's a suspect being held on a million dollar bail. chicago major richardday d is sending dozens more police to bus stops. some teens are trying to get more involved. since we're the ones who is doing the killing and since we're the ones who is getting killed, the youth needs to step up. we need to bring about a change. >> reporter: four teens have been charged in the murder. tiger woods sets his site on a new goal. olympic gold. first, new york can be more than bright lights big city.
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only very rarely has a person to the same extent as obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. his diplomacy is founded in the concept of those who are to live the earth must do so on the basis of values and -- >> the head of the nobel committee thinks the president was an obvious choice to receive the peace prize.
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the news was followed by shock around the world, including the white house. we were asking if you were shocked. what do you think? we've been asking your thoughts on president barack obama winning the nobel. let's say hi to don in prairie creek, indiana. what are your thoughts? >> caller: my thought is that the nobel peace prize committee has jumped the gun on this a little bit. this guy has only been in office for nine months. he's come from chicago, a bunch of people back there that aren't really good for the government, i don't think, and he's -- he hasn't accomplished a lot other than get people stirred up. a bright young man. but to get the nobel peace prize i think is just out of line. >> you're not getting it. alexis is on the line from
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washington. >> caller: i think he's doing a great job. it's a huge process waging peace with a lot of steps to it. i think he's worked nonstop. just by example, even through tolerance, communication, respect to all countries and creeds. he's educated but humble and person person personalible. he has an open heart and i think he's the perfect, perfect winner. >> do you think the nobel committee was acting politically? that it was a rebuff to george w. bush? what do you think? >> caller: i don't think that would be out of line, but i think it's well deserved. i really do. >> vincent from minneapolis. >> caller: if he's truly humble and feels undeserving he should do the right thing and be a good
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role model and just tell the committee that he's honored by it and return the award to him. then he wouldn't have to apologize or no one else would have to apologize for his actions in accepting the ward when he's undeserving. >> why do you this it is? >> caller: because he hasn't done nothing. he had only been in two weeks when the deadline was. what can you do in two weeks? in that case, i should be deserving of it. >> thanks. have a good week. obama does not deserve the peace prize while waging war against two nations. kristin writes president obama has made an itmmeasurable chang in the hope of the united states and the future, but peace we're yet to see. we'll end on that note. thank you everybody for weighing in. we have a ton of comments. thank you so much for weighing in on the topic. president obama, the new nobel
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peace prize winner. seven years from now if birdie will become a part of the international olympic kree. they've voted to include rugby and golf in the games. tiger woods already said he would play in the olympics if it became a support in 2016. golf and rugby fill the spots on the roster left open after the ioc dropped baseball and softball. fingerprints, dna and the way you rip off tape. hear about a new tool to rip off criminals. dr. sanjay gupta tells us how to fight childhood obesity in california. >> reporter: vista, california, the population, largely mexican immigrants and hispanic americans. many of the families are low income. many don't have access to fresh fruits or vegetables. add to that a diet high in fat an a lack of safe play spaces and in some ways it's the perfect recipe for obesity.
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>> i have children as young as 5 or 6 in my practice that are now starting to develop diabetes. >> reporter: but a partnership of more than 100 local businesses, schools, health care providers and county officials is coming together to find a solution. >> we are working in two major areas. one is healthy eating. to make sure all families have access to fresh, affordable, healthy foods and all families have access to safe, affordable opportunities for their kids to be physically active. >> reporter: and although still work needs to be done, doctors like kelly say they are making progress. >> there are days when you feel like you've done the same thing over and over. you see the kids who come back and haven't gained weight. sometimes that's they're only goal. you realize they are hearing what you're saying.
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nasa crashed a couple of spacecraft into the surface of the moon in order to find out if there's water below their surface. they first shot an empty rocket into the south pole to kick up dust this morning. four minutes later another nasa probe flew through the clouds looking for any sign of moisture. afterward it itself crashed into the moon. nasa is calling today's crash a successful impact. the agency is not quite ready to talk about if the experiments kicked up water or how much. >> i can report there was an impact. we saw the impact. we saw the crater. we got good measurements.
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mic microscopic measurements. we have the data we need to address the questions we sent out to address. i'm not going to say anything about water or no water, but we got the measurements we need to rest the question. >> nasa says it will be a while before the data can be analyzed and determined if there's any water on the lunar surface. you just spend $150,000 to study the way duct tape tears. it could help prosecute criminals because each tear of a strip of duct tape is unique. and can be traced back to the original role. they're matching 150 pieces together in order to give more credibility to expert testimony. right now duct tape comparisons are complete lly sugges lly sub
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>> they can say in my opinion it's unique. but how do you know? have you examined 100? have you examined 1,000? >> the conclusions from the study could be used in courtrooms in as soon as three years. the house is expanding the ethics investigation of charlie wra rangel. rangel admits he didn't report more than $250,000 in assets but he denies that he helped protect a tax break for a company whose boss pledged $1 million for one of his projects. the charleston, south carolina, police department just released video of a city council member's dui arrest. her car ended up in a ditch in june. they had to carry her out. video shows an officer taking
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many bottles of wine from the car. she has pleaded guilty. he says she will not seek re-election. an alligator attacked a # 7-year-old man in the south carolina golf course and bit off part of his arm. authorities say he was picking up his ball on the island course when the 10-foot, 400 pound gator pulled him into a pond. his golf partners rushed over to free him. then wildlife officials tried to capture the gator. >> we was going to try to put a noose, basically a snare cable over him. when we almost had it over his head he went back under the water. surfaced again. he moved out deeper. played cat and mouse for about 30 minutes. we were finally able to get a snag line on it. a rope with a trouble hook. we brought him to the shore to dispatch him and pulled him up.
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opened him up and removed the arm. ems was standing by to take it. >> the man was taken to the university medical center in south carolina, charleston, in hopes of reattaching his arm. the trade deficit fell 3.5% in august. a sur prides to economists who expected it to come up. the continued rise is an encouraging sign the global economy may be recoverg from the severe recession. are you happy with your job. a recent survey set out to find the happyiest people in the workforce. who they are and how you can become one. >> in the midst of a brutal continuing recession. i don't care what ben bernanke says about it being over. if you're looking for work it's still tough. one place you might look is at your own employment office. what are you capable of doing as
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researchers caution they don't know if it's the cause of chronic fatigue or if it only attacks people with weakened immune systems. the 20th anniversary of the simpsons is coming up. marge will help celebrate by taking it all off for playboy. they said it would never last.
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we have to confront the world as we know it today. i am the commander in chief of a country responsible for confronting an adversary that confronts the american people and our allies. >> michael steele was quick to criticize the nobel committee and the president. saying it's unfortunate the star power has outshined tireless advocates who have made real achievements towards working towards peace and human rights. president obama won't be receiving awards from americans from job creation, fiscal responsibility or backing up rhetoric with concrete action. i-reporters weighing in as well in droves. the responses are mixed. >> i understand no big peace treaties. no israel/palestinian treaties
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going on. at the end of the day part of the reason was because he inspired many people around the world to want to make change and make peace. and he helped change the impression of the united states in the world which we know over the last eight years was abysmal. >> joe from virginia has a different take on the committee's decision. obama, he writes, is awarding the nobel peace prize. it used to mean something. now it's laughable. what were these people think sng the nobel prize should recognize a person who has accomplished highly significant and impactful humanitarian events. he has done nothing of a humane nature. some nominees names were withdrawn. too bad it did not happen in this case. all right. it's the fourth time a u.s. president has won the nobel
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peace prize, former president jimmy carter was named a la lauriet. wilson got the honor for launching the league of nations after world war i. theodore roosevelt got the prize for negotiating an ends of a war between japan and russia. two hour police chase finally ended in corsicana, texas. it had gone through five counties before this. the driver is in custody. officials say it all began in sherman tex sherman, texas, north of dallas. he drove off from a gas station without paying. when he reached the city of melissa, the officers tried to lay down road spikes. he almost hit the chief of police. so the driver is accused of
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assaulting a police officer. finally they pumped him several times for behind. it wound up in a small pond. a lot of rain in the area. still talking on his cell phone as the chase ended two hours after it began. a ucla student stabbed in the threat allegedly by a fellow student is expected to recover. it occurred in the chemistry lab yesterday but they have no motive. a teaching assistant applied pressure to the woman's neck to stop the pleading. other student miss the lab at the time said the whole scene was surreal. >> did it look like a serious injury zm. >> yeah. i thought she died. >> the victim had surgery for multiple stab wounds. the suspect being held on a million dollar bail. the house is expanding ethics investigations.
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now they need to find out if he has more unreported assets. he did not report more than $250,000 in assets. he denies a new york times report that he helped protect a tax break for a company whose boss pledged $1 million to a project. rangel says he's the victim of a smear campaign. the south carolina police department released video of a city council member's dui arrest. deborah's car ended up in a ditch. this is in june. police say they smelled whole. when they arrived they had to carry her out. the video shows an officer take manager bottles of wine from the skreek. she has pleaded guilty. she says she will not run for re-election. golf's reigning champ will get the chance to add another honor to his list. olympian.
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the announcement that president obama won the peace prize was the talk of morning news shows. "the "today show" and "good morning america" all assessed the committee's decision. on the "today show" they talked about the gasps of shock. >> how about the gasps in the room? the reporters covering this gasped in shock. this is a surprise. we're less than a year into the first term of this president, and there are no, not trying to be rude here, no major foreign policy achievements. why did he win? >> this is more about tone than it is substantive
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accomplishment. in many ways this is a european body who is more or less leaning certainly and opposed to the administration of george w. bush. >> they believe this will strengthen the president's hand at home and abroad. >> i want to ask about that. a lot of key decisions being made ahead. . specifically, what do you think the calculations, how does this factor in around the world when you mange a decision in the middle east. the white house expects this to be the most tangible effects on the efforts to isolate. >> the committee i find interesting said they awarded this for changing the tone of american politics. it's almost as if they're saying we're giving you the nobel peace prize for winning the election. @ bush is unpopular in europe.
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it's almost as if this is more of a comment on the previous administration than the new one. we very seldom have people who -- >> well, not to be outdone the blogs are outdone with cheers and jeers. from the left, the huffington post wrote it would be hard to see of a more deserving recipient. we hope hi will achieve real progress in diplomacy. on the right, michelle thinks the president is being awarded the prize "not for anything he's actually done but rather for the symbolism of what he might possibly achieve way off in the future." adding, "it's the final nail in the nobel peace prize's." >> big tent democrat blogs for
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reason unfathomable. president obama was awarded the nobel peace prize and saying it makes the committee look foolish. they are saying there's no way the president earned the nomination. the stepmother of the missing florida girl says she still believes haleigh is alive. in an interview this morning she said somebody on her husband's side of the family has her. here's video of them. haleigh's father now wants a divorce because of inconsistencies in misty's story. we've also learned police pulled cummings over in a suspected road rage incident. she and the person driving the other car were questioned and police. the driver who talked to police
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talked to nancy grace last night. >> i would assume this is one of your fears. there would be some type of incident on the road. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. i've done this for over a year n now. >> i've done this over a year now. i've never come in contact with someone so aggressive and relentless. just nonstop. i ignored it for ten minutes. when you're driving, it was a very stressful ten minutes. when they started -- they reached down and started flailing something around, you know, they wanted me to think they had a weapon.
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they wanted to scare me. that's when i called the police. is misty cummings world tumbling down as the investigation to this disappearance heats up? eight months in. nancy grace with the latest on the search for the little girl and the struggle for answers. an american dad stuck in a japanese dad for striing to snatch away kids will spend ten more days behind bars. japanese officials needed time to decide whether to charge christopher in tennessee. he was arrested after traveling 7,000 miles to see and get his kids. in the u.s. that doesn't apply japan. the only parent allowed to be custodian is almost always the mother. seven years from now the word birdie will become part of the olympic words.
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the current number one golfer already said he would play in the games if it became an olympic sport. the ioc dropped softball.
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nasa crashed a couple of spacecraft boos the moon. they first shot an empty rocket into the south pole of the moon. four minutes later another probe through flu the cloud looking for signs of moisture. then it crashed into the moon. the agency is not ready to talk about if the experiments quick
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kicked up water or how much. >> we saw the impact. we saw the crater. we god got measurements. measurements that we needed of the impact. we have the data we need to address the questions. >> nasa says it will be a while before the data is analyzed to determine if there is water on the the lunar service. chicago mayor is sending dozens more police officers to school bus stops. it's the reaction of the death of a 16-year-old student. some teens are trying to get more involved. >> since we're the ones whose doing the killings, and since we're the ones whose getting killed, the youth needs to step up. we need to bring about a change.
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>> four teens were charged with murder in the deadly beating of 16-year-old derrion albert last month. i'm jane velez-mitchell and here's my issue. when a bunch of black inner city teens got in a wild melee, some people called it inner city violence. one week later in new hampshire four white teens are accused of stabbing a woman to death and hacking her daughter with a machete. this goes way beyond black, white, urban, rural, teen violence is plaguing our nation. but is anybody surprised zm our culture, movies, tv, et cetera, dripping with blood, swimming in violence. who is teaching our young people about peace? why is peace considered a cooky word? look at the alternative for god's sake. but before we can have peace, we first have to imagine that we can't bring ourselves to do that. that's a problem. i'm jane velezvelez-mitchell, a
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that's my issue. tonight she talked to the brother of misty cummings. economistscan expected the trade deficit to go up. it's also an encouraging sign that goebl economy may be recovering from the severe recession. fight over climate change is costing one of america's most powerful business groups trouble. >> the u.s. chamber of commerce has 300,000 members. that number has gotten small ner the past few weeks. several big companies have announced they're quitting or reducing their role because of the chamber's decision to regulate greenhouse gases. apple resigned just this week calling the chamber's position
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on climate change "frustrating." it joins three other companies who have already left. nike recently quit the board for the same reason. the ceo says it's time for businesses to get real about global warming. to get real about global warming. >> climate change is coming. the reality is that every time we look into the facts behind it, it looks to be worse and sooner than the last look in to the study of climate change. and, therefore, it's a question of sooner or later there will be controls on carbon. the point i make is the sooner you start to work on a big problem, the less disruptive it is to a company, to an industry, to consumers and the less expensive it is. so let's get on with it. >> now, some environmentalists think this improves a chance of a climate bill passing congress since can should suggest big business opposition is weakening. chuck?
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>> how is the chamber reacting to these defections? >> they're not very happy about it and it's firing back. it says it doesn't deny the existence of global warming and actually supports federal legislation to curb greenhouse gas emissions. it does oppose the climate bill that passed the house in june. the chamber says that measure would raise energy price and put u.s. companies at a global disadvantage. i think we haven't heard the last on this one. an issue down the road we'll hear again. >> felecia taylor. have a good weekend. friday, getaway day before the holiday weekend. the dow hit a 2009 high. today it appears investors are optimistic about the next wave of thirdthird-quarter earnings week. 9 rkds 847. he says he's a car carrying member of the naacp. the sign outside the restaurant says something quite digit. why he says he's using the "n" word to weigh in on the health care debate.
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well, you saw it here on hln live today. a police chase in texas, this thing lasted more than two hours before it finally ended. hi, everyone, i'm richelle carey. this driver led police through at least five counties. he is in custody, likely to face quite a few charges and in quite a few counties. this started when the suspect allegedly drove off from a gas station without paying. when the driver reached the city of melissa, officers tried to stop the truck using road spikes. we've heard of those before. as the driver swerved to askroid
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them the truck nearly hit the chief of police in melissa. the driver is accused of assaulting a police officer. i said it came to an end after more than two hours. that happened finally 60 miles south of dallas in navarro county. police, you can see a little while ago they rammed the truck several times from behind. it ended in that swampy ditch. you kind of saw what you think you saw when they pulled him out of the truck, looked like he was talking on his cell phone. it is amazing how many of you were watching this chase. all two hours of it. when i put comments about it on my facebook page i was flooded with your comments back to me. this is some of what you had to say. abby wrote this, i don't understand why people run, where do they think they're going to go? rakia wrote this, it was more exciting than watching dora, as in "dora the explorer." christopher wrote, you know, it
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is dangerous to talk on the cell phone while you're driving. he was a little cheeky there. heather wrote this, he stole gas? crazy people out there. i guess he couldn't start a chase without the gas, though. you all were kind of smart al k alecks but in this case it was okay because nobody was hurt which sometime happens in chases but this one was okay. thanks to everyone who waufed and posted on my facebook page. i appreciate it. >> i'm surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the nobel committee. >> it's hard to describe just how much of a shock this year's nobel peace prize announcement was. before this morning the buzz about the award pretty much centered on a human rights activist in afghanistan and a political dissident in china, among others. at the announcement in norway, the audience actually gasped. listen to this.
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>> president barack obama -- >> then a few moments later the came of the norwegian nobel prize committee repeated the announcement in english. now listen. >> the nobel committee has decided that the nobel peace prize for 2009 is to be awarded to president barack obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. >> this is the fourth time a u.s. president has won the nobel peace prize. former president jimmy carter was awarded the 2002 prize for his work after leaving the white house. woodrow wilson and theodore roosevelt won the prize while still in office. wilson got the honor for launching the league of nations after world war i. roosevelt, a peace prize for negotiating the end between the war. congratulations to the
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latest nobel peace laureate. he says it is an honor for the united states he got selected. gore won the peace prize two years ago for his campaign against global warming. car bomb killed at least 49 people in a bustling packsonny market today. a government official says it's the deadliest suicide attack ever in peshawar pakistan. a nearby hospital quickly filled up with at least 135 people hurt in this blast. it got so crowded some patients actually had to share gurneys. take a look at the scene in the mountain communities in northern philippines. rescuers are racing against the clock to pull buried survivors out of dozens of landslides. latest calamity and worst flooding in decades in the philippines. death toll and on going disaster climbed to more than 450 people. two u.s. navy ships are on standby to help with the rescues. possibly, a tattoo that
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reads bela vida have to do with caylee anthony's murder? among dozens of photos and 1,400 pages of documents released today. nancy grace producer natisha lance joins us with an update. she's become a pro at deciphering what the documents mean. this tattoo, we've heard a little about this tattoo. what's going on? >> this tattoo, one of the things prosecutors really wanted to get a picture of. they were ability to able to go into the jail to get a picture of the tattoo casey anthony got two weeks after caylee anthony went missing. what procesecutors are going too is use this in terms of casey anthony's mind frame. if she was able to get the tattoo, the translation means "the beautiful life," then she wasn't caring too much about her daughter being missing. some of the other photos
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released were pictures of the duct tape wrapped around caylee anthony's mouth. there's been a lot of contention over this duct tape which we talked about over the last couple weeks. does it last the duct tape at the anthony household or does it not? if you look closely at this duct tape, see the marking on it for this fire guard duct grand. a rare brand that was made. there was a circle with the name "henk l" in the middle and an area that says 200 degree fahrenheit temperature. there's the duct tape from the gas can from the anthony household. just in looks alone would make it seem like it's a match. however, according to the defense, it is not a match in terms of the fibers that are in the duct tape. however, other tests have shown that chemically the duct tapes were very similar. as you can see on the duct tape that was found at the crime scene, it was very deteriorated. it appears there is hair on it. we did see in the forensic reports as far as caylee anthony is concerned they had to cut
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that duct tape out of her hair that was still attached to her skull with that duct tape. another picture that we had released also was the shovel that casey anthony apparently borrowed from the neighbor. she says it was to cut the bamboo from the back. however, there were signs apparently before that there was a hole that was dug next to the pool in the backyard of the anthony's household. no indication it had any type of dna or anything related to caylee anthony on that. those are the photos that are coming out. most of the buzzes around the tape from the crime scene that was around caylee anthony's mouth. >> i had a moment when you said that. that this duct tape was around this child's skull. just that moment to remind you what we're talking about. they're supposed to be back in court again next week. what's that about? >> they're back in court next week because the defense is asking for the case to be completely thrown out, dismissed. so the prosecution has come back. they said, no, this case should not be. the defense is saying there's not enough evidence for this
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case to go forward, at least as a homicide case. we will have to see what happens. >> that's defense teams doing what defense teams are supposed to do. >> right, exactly. >> all right. nancy grace producer natisha lance. thank you very much. well, the announcement that president obama won the nobel peace prize came as a complete surprise to everyone including president obama. what do you think about the honor he's receiving? we'll share your views on hln.
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as you might imagine, word of the nobel prize announcementh cheers and jeers from the president. from the left "the huffington" post, jay con helbrin writes of the president's win it would be hard to think of a more electrifying or deserving recipient. by awarding him the prize the committee is placing hope that he will achieve real progress in
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diplomacy instead of confrontation around the world. on the right, conservative blogger michelle malkin thinks the president is awarded the prize not for anything he's done but for the symbolism for what he might possibly pay chooachie off in the future. she adds it's the final nail in the nobel committee's coffin. talk left has a completely different point of view. big tent democrat, blogs, for reasons that are unfathomable, president obama was awarded the nobel peace price, encourages the president to turn down the prize. eric erickson, quote, i didn't realize the nobel peace prize had an affirmative action quota for it and that there's no way the president earned the nomination. just the wrap up for you there. we want to know your views
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on the president winning the nobel prize. let's get to the phones right now. willie is calling us from jackson, mississippi. >> caller: michigan. >> i'm sorry about that, willie. thanks for correcting me. >> caller: well, that's okay. you know, i'm 63-year-old minority, and obviously, you know, i'm really happy for obama as a president, but, however, i'm very disturbed in our country since we have a minority in office, and i hope i'm not right, we have lost respect for the office of the president. we let a guy in the house yell out and call the president a liar. we let rush limbaugh yell that the president he hopes he fails, which means he hopes the country fails. now we have the chairman of the republican party get on air and say the president of the united states is undeserving of the nobel peace prize. what other country in the world is degrading their president for winning such an award? it is so sad that we won't come out and say this man is trying
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so hard to put our country back in a bright light, with good ideas. everybody stands him down. >> willie, we're almost out of time. basically you think the president is deserving of the -- you think people that don't think he is, you think they're being disrespectful of him? >> caller: i think they're being disrespectful because they have alternative motives. >> thanks. darryl is calling from texas. what's your take on this? >> caller: my take is, what has he done for humanity? he's not a mother teresa. he acknowledges the muslim community, but he's the first-seated president since national prayer day has been institutioned into the nation's, you know, religious sector, that has not represented the white house or been part of it, himself. as far as i'm concerned -- >> darryl, your take on it -- i
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gather your take on it is you don't think he deserves it, which is certainly a valid position, but you also made the statement you had a problem with him acknowledging muslims? >> caller: well, he acknowledges the muslim community but he won't acknowledge national prayer day in the united states. it's a slap in the face to americans. >> let's stick with the question, though. you don't think he deserved the -- >> caller: he does not deserve the nobel peace prize. >> fair enough. that was the question we posed to you and the points of view we want to hear. thanks very much. i got 120 some odd comments about this on my facebook page, richelle carey hln and facebook. here's a sample of the comments. antoine writes, i believe the nobel peace prize was warranted because the president is working to promote peace in america as well as around the world. unfortunately other countries acknowledge his efforts more than people in this country. martin says obama does not deserve the peace prize while
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waging war against two nations. it seems hypocritical. willie believes, if president obama does not believe he deserves the peace prize, someone somewhere realizes the effort he's put in to get our country out of the way it has been in. a very heated debate on my facebook page. we wanted your comments. we appreciate it very much. thanks for your e-mail, calls, facebook comments. "prime news" starts at the top of the hour. lot more comments and topics to comment on. check them out. you were psyched about this. two spacecrafts make a splash on the mean. scientists aren't sure yet what they kicked up. find out why they --
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this just in. the father of terror suspect najibullah zazi says he's not guilty to lying to the fbi and free on a $50,000 bond. unsecured bond. mohammed wali zazi will be electronically monitored by the court. najibullah zazi is held in new york. conspireing to detonate explosives in the united states. nasa crashed a couple of spacecraft into the surface of the moon today. trying to find out if there's water below its barren surface.
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the space agency shot an empty rocket into the moon's south pole to kick up dust, early morning. then about four minutes later another nasa probe flew through the cloud looking for moisture. it flew into the moon. nasa is calling today's crashes successful impacts. so, this is the question? is there water? that's what it was all about. the space agency is not ready to talk about if the experiments kicked up water or how much. >> i can certainly report there was an impact. we saw the impact. we saw the crater. we got good measurements, spectroscopic measurements which is what we needed of the impact event. we have the data we need to address the questions we sent out to address. that's the fundamental bottom line. i hopes that is what you take away today. i'm not going to say anything about water but we got the
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measurements we need to address the question. >> it will be a while before the data can be analyzed. the house is expanding its ethics investigation of congressman charlie rangel, getting big now. the democrat admitted serious mistakes on financial disclosures and tax forms. investigators need to figure out if he has more unreported assets. rangel admits he did not disclose or pay taxes on rental income and didn't report $250,000 in assets. he denies a "the new york times" report he helped protect a tax break for a company whose boss pledged $1 million to one of his projects. rangel says he's a victim of a smear campaign. american dad stuck in a japanese jail for trying to snatch his kids away from his ex-wife will spend ten more days in jail. japanese officials need time to decide whether to charge christopher savoy from franklin, tennessee. he was arrested last month after
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traveling 7,000 miles to see his kids. he was granted custody in the u.s., but that ruling doesn't apply in japan. in custody disputes in japan, only one parent is allowed to be the custodian and almost always the mother. a virus linked to prostate cancer may be connected to chronic fatigue syndrome. a study in "the journal of science" found the virus in two-thirds of patients with chronic fatigue. researchers cautioned they don't know if the virus is a cause of chronic fatigue or just attacks people with weakens immune systems. wall street recently marked the one day anniversary of the biggest one day gain and biggest loss. today marks another important day. felecia taylor at the business desk in new york with that story and numbers as well. hello. >> hey, richelle. it was two years ago today the dow closed at 14,161.
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s&p 500 also set a record that day. what's happened since? sit down. both indexes lost more than 30% of their value. there are, however, signs that the market is coming back. the dow closed, today, at its highest level in more than a year adding 78 points to close at 9,864. nasdaq deposit gained three quarters of one percent. stocks advanced in four out of five sessions this week posting the best weekly gain since july. price of gold took a breather after three consecutive days of record prices. closed at $1,048 an ounce. >> still a huge number. have a good week. >> it's true. >> unbelievable. all right. thanks, felecia. have a good weekend. >> you, too. which phone will make you the happiest? a j.d. power survey says if you don't have a smart phone like an iphone or blackberry, you want one. in a survey, people without
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smart phones were less satisfied with what they got. apple's iphone was tops for satisfaction for users. l.g. and blackberry tied for second with consumers. tiger woods sets his sights on olympic gold, how the world's top golfer is helping get his sport back into the games. eseses
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many of you saw this right here live on hln today. this is a police chase in texas. this thing lasted for more than two hours before it finally ended. hello, everyone, i'm richelle carey. this driver led police through at least five counties. he's in custody. he's going to face probably several charges in all of those counties. so what got his thing started? police say this guy allegedly drove off from a gas station without paying. then when he reached the city of melissa, officers tried to use those road spikes to get this thing to end. well, they say the driver
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swerved to avoid them and then the truck nearly hit the police chief of melissa. the driver is accused of assaulting a police officer. finally, 60 miles south of dallas in navarro county this is what happened. police rammed the struck several times from behind, sent it into the swampy ditch there to the right. see in a second, officers start to pull the guy out of the truck, seem like to me and to most people he was talking on the cell phone. yeah. there you have it. well, it's hard to describe just how much of a shock this year's nobel peace prize announcement was. before this morning, the buzz about the award centered on a human rights activist in afghanistan and a political dissident in china. basically that was the focus. well, at the announcement in ozlo, norway, the audience you can hear them gasp. listen to this. >> president barack obama.
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>> then a few minutes later the chairman of the nobel prize committee repeated the announcement in english. >> the nobel committee has decided that the nobel peace prize for 2009 is to be awarded to president barack obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. >> the president admits he did not expect to wake up a nobel peace prize winner. not sure he deserves to be in the company of past winners who had so much impact on the world. he will accept the award in december and view it as a call to action for people everywhere. >> i am both surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the nobel committee.
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let me be clear, i do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of american leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations. >> so this surprise comes with $1.4 million in cash and a spokesperson for the president spays that money will be doe nated to charity. a former democratic presidential nominee and former republican presidential nominee agree on one thing. president obama's nobel peace prize is an honor for america. >> nobel committee, i can't define all of their intentions but i think part of their decision making was expectations and i'm sure the president understands that he now has even more to live up to, but as americans we're proud when our president receives an award of that prestigious category.
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>> were you surprised? >> i think all of us were surprised at the decision, but i think americans are always pleased when their president is recognized by something on this order. >> i think it's an honor for our country, it's an honor for him, first and foremost, of course, but it's an honor for our country. i think it's extremely well-deserved. >> this is the fourth time a u.s. president has won the prize. i-reporters have been weighing in as well. lots of mixed responses. ryan basilio in los angeles, this is what ryan had to say. let's listen. >> i thought to myself, does obama really deserve the nobel peace prize? and, thinking about it, i'd say maybe, yeah. sure, why not?
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we went from diplomacy that was awful for the eight years that bush was in office. we went into everything by ourselves, with ourselves, with maybe britain, and we went into places where people didn't want us and we didn't deserve to be. we come to a world where the standing of the usa is a lot better than it used to be. complete 180 from what people thought of the usa before. we are respected again in the world. we have a moral authority. and we talk to people. >> ryan is very animated. we like that. very passionate. joe condin from virginia, just as passion not from opposite side. this is what he had to say. obama is awarded the nobel peace prize? it used to mean something to receive the award. now it's laughable. what were these people thinking? the nobel prize should recognize
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person who has accomplished highly impactful humanitarian events. our thanks to ryan and joe for their passionate i-reports. they're well thought out responses. we appreciate it. we want to hear your thoughts as well. go to ireport.com. let us know what you think. we appreciate it. we got something in not too long ago. a few minutes ago we want to cant to report on. father of terror suspect najibullah zazi says he is not guilty of lying to the fbi. mohammed zazi was indicted yesterday. he's free on a $50,000 unsecured bond. he does have to wear an electronic monitoring device. his son, najibullah zazi is being held without bond in new york. he entered a plea of not guilty on a charge of conspireing to detonate explosives in the united states. chicago mayor richard daley is sending dozens more police
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officers to schools, to school bus stops. this is to try to stop the escalating teen violence in his city. this is a reaction to the recent beating death of a 16-year-old that's been blamed on gangs. the city is also giving money to help give students jobs. some teens, some of the teens are trying to get more involved as well. >> since we're the ones who's doing the killings, and since we're the ones who's getting killed, the youth needs to step up. we need to bring about a change. >> listen to her. four teenagers have been charged with murder in the deadly beating of derrion albert last month. got some new details just in in a really, really shocking case. this is a death of a soccer mom who made headlines by going to her daughter's soccer game packipack ing heat last year. melanie hain was shot and killed by her husband, wednesday, while
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on a video chat with a friend. the online friend reportedly saw the husband, scott hain four several shots. investigators say he went upstairs to the bedroom and killed himself. their autopsies were completed today. hain shocked other parents when she openly carried a loaded pistol to her daughter's soccer game last september. their three children were home when this happened. they were not hurt. neighbors say one of them ran outside saying daddy shot mommy. fresh produce out of the grocery store into vending machines. it's a new weapon in the nation's battle against obesity. will people really pass on that bag on chips to grab some grapes?
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new information for you. conservative radio host rush limbaugh, he's going to crown the next usa. miss america. pardsen me, pardon me. hold on, two separate pageants. let me get that right. miss america. the miss america organization announced it will be on a panel of seven judges. the 2010 pageant will be broadcast next january on tlc. it will be at the planet hollywood resort and casino in las vegas. the pa lent's president and ceo are thrilled he's going to be a judge. miss america. let me get that right. nasa crashed a couple of spacecraft into the surface of the moon today. the goal is to rye to find out if there is water below the barren surface. the space agency shot an empty rocket into the moon's south pole to kick up dust very, very
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early this morning. four minutes later another nasa probe flew through that cloud looking for signs of moisture. afterwards it crashed into the moon. nasa's calling all this very successful. so, is there any water? that's what we want to know. nasa isn't quite ready to talk about if the experiments kicked up much water if any at all. nasa says it's going to take a while to analyze that data. the charleston, south carolina, police department released video of a city council member's dui arrest. deborah morinelli's car ended up in a ditch back in june. police said they could smell the alcohol when they got there and they had to carry her out. the video shows an officer taking many bottles of wine from the car. she pleaded guilty and says she will not run for re-election. prisoners turning to religion when they get locked up. that's not new. what is new is which religion more of them are turning to. so we're going to turn to
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cnn.com live's virginia cha now to talk more about buddhism behind bars. hi, virginia. >> hi, there, richelle. consider this. convicted drug dealers doing yoga or convicted murderers meditating. apparently prisoners are taught new ways to cope with the stress and chaos of life behind bars and some corrections officers are saying that violence is down among prisoners who meditate. also, buddhist experts are saying it's important to teach anger management because it helps in the case of dangerous overcrowding in certain prisons. now, the founder of the prison darma network says the ill packet of buddhist teaching is real. there are opponents to this. critics say meditation doesn't work and prisoners may be tempted to use it as a way to impress a parole board. now, other facilities particularly in strongly christian areas have shown some
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discomfort with the idea of enabling eastern religions in the past. but prison yoga and meditation networks will expanding. in fact, buddhism has grown in the united states, and to see how much, go to cnn.com/crime. >> all right. very interesting. i hope people do. we touched on something yesterday, virginia, i know you got more information on. the idea that when people go to the vending machine there's something better to choose from than candy bars and chips. >> yeah. you know, we keep saying we want to eat healthier, so when the choice is right in front of you, richelle, if you have chips, cookies and salty snacks on the right, on the left, bananas, apples and carrots? which vending machine are you going to put your money? in miami, at a college the students have that choice. del monte has put in this fresh produce vending machine right next to the regular vending machine. it's at m.iami date college.
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it has whole and cut fruits there. everything in the machine under 120 calories. three machines test marketed in southern california. giving them healthier choices. the reaction has been mixed. some students are walking away with the chips in hand at 10:00 in the morning. others are saying, it's about time. if you want to check it out more, go to cnn.com/video. >> how do you think the vending machines would to in the dotcom facilities? >> someone would throw a sheet over it. the ones with the chips and cookies, everyone, everything goes very fast. not me. >> of course, not you, dear virginia. i wasn't going to put you on the spot. thanks, virginia. have a great weekend. >> you too. listen to this. police in texas honoring a 5-year-old girl for saving her mother's life. she's just a doll. this happened about a month ago. brianna shan chez's mom broke an
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artery in her hand on a broken window. she was bleeding to badly she had to tell her daughter to call 911. >> she told me to get out the phone from her pocket and call 911. >> welt, brianna got three awards including one given to police officers when they saved someone's life. her mother is doing fine. this story, yikes. an alligator attacked a 77-year-old man on a golf course in south carolina yesterday and bit off part of his arm. authorities say the man was picking up his ball on the friff island course when the gator pulled him into a nearby pond. his golf partners raced in to free him and wildlife officials moved in to capture the alligators. >> he was sitting close to the bank so we were going to put a
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nice, base will a snare cable over him. when we approached him, almost had it over his head, he went back under the water. surfaced again, tried it again. he moved out farther. we played cat and mouse for 30 minutes. we were able to get a snagline on a rope with a trouble hook and hook him. we brought him to the shore where we dispatched him, pulled him up and opened him up and remove the arm. ems was standing by to take it. >> they took him to the medical university of south carolina in charleston so they could try to reattach his arm. the hospital isn't giving out details on his condition. the announcement that president obama won the nobel peace prize came as a complete surprise to everyone including president obama. so what do you think about the honor he's getting? we're going to share more of your views on hln.
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all right. "prime news" is coming up in a few minutes. let's check in with mike to see what some of the stories are that we're going to talking about. all right, mike, this first
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story, what in the world is going on at ucla? >> ucla, horrifying story. a 20-year-old viciously attacked another 20-year-old student. male student attacks a female student. female student. we'll talk to the teacher's assistant who called 911. he looks over and this guy is punching this woman allegedly stabbed her multiple times. we'll get the latest on that and what could have caused this. obviously the first place we go on that one. want to hear from you. 1-877-tell-hln is the number. all right, here we go again with the sexting where the kids send via e-mail or through the cell phone usually a naked shot of themselves, 30 kids involved now at a school in pennsylvania, authorities thinking of felony child porn charges. is that the way to go? we'll talk to a judge, is that the right punishment and a wisconsin couple going to jail because their daughter died. they didn't take her to the hospital. instead, they only prayed, convict of reckless homicide.
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taking your calls on all these topics 1-877-tell-hln's the number coming your way in less than ten minutes. >> i'll thereabout, mike. thank you. the big story today president obama won the nobel peace prize. we've been asking for your views on this. let's get to the phones right now, faiesha, hope i got that right calling us from florida. what are your thoughts on this? >> caller: basically, i would like to just say i am so happy and grateful, as well as proud that president obama has been given the noble peace prize. he has a strong desire to bring peace across the nations. i hope he feels even more motivated and driven to continue to fight for human rights across the world. he has motivated me to want to be a part of foreign world peace. i, myself, have been a victim of discrimination by a hostile work environment and i am currently unemployed due to this unjustice that i have faced while working
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at the -- >> we're about out of time, hon, i'll happen to wrap you. i appreciate your comment and we did -- were actually split today. everyone didn't feel that way but about out of time that's why we couldn't be as balanced as we wanted in that particular segment. thank you, everyone who reached out with their views, we appreciate. more hln "news & views" to come.  they said it would never last.
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your chance to be heard. welcome once again this is "prime news." i'm mike galanos. let's get to this the step-mom of missing little haleigh cummings breaking her silence, quite a week for misty croslin cummings, first the last to see little haleigh who vanished from her home in satsuma, florida. a few days ago her dad, ron, who stood beside misty, it seemed, married her even, they are getting a divorce. she's on national tv saying she's alive and well and with the other side of the family. take a listen on cbs's "early
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show". >> someone came and got her, obviously. i feel like it's on the other side of the family that has her. that's just how i feel. >> all right. other side of the family. we'll take your calls 1-877-tell-hln. joining me to talk about it producer from the nancy grace show also steve rogers detective lieutenant nutley, new jersey police department. natisha, other side of the family, whose side is she talking about ron's, crystal sheffield, what do we know. >> it's a little unclear. i can tell you i spoke to crystal sheffield's side of the family, haleigh's maternal grandmother and she interpreted it as misty talking about their side of the family. she said that she's not surprised. she feels that misty has made these accusations against them before in the past and she said they have absolutely nothing to do with it and, there you go. >> okay. so that any comment from ron,
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his attorney, anybody on all this? >> no comment from ron, his attorney on it. what i can tell you is that misty did do this interview without the blessing from her attorney, robert fields, who said that he did advise her not to do this as well as that hypnosis test she talked about during this interview, another thing she was not advising her to do but misty croslin is speaking out saying that she's not worried about getting an arrest. she does believe haleigh is still alive and well someone obviously came into the house and got her but not giving any more specific detail about what happened that night. >> okay. let's bring in steve rogers, talking about misty, she has not given authorities a straight story yet going on national tv cbk "early show" throwing out theories. what do you make about all that? >> she better start worrying. mike, the law enforcement community i'm sure believes she is a primary suspect in this case. maybe she doesn't believe it, but they do. and this is just another
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dwirgsary tactic from a certain individual who is a suspect in a very, very serious case obviously. that's what i make of it. diversionary tactic. >> okay. investigators, will they go over that interview with a fine-toothed comb looking for something she said on the cbs "early show"? >> absolutely. in fact, i was looking at the interview myself, looking at body language. i noticed she didn't say it was fact the other side of the family's involved. she said "i felt it" i watched her eyes roll a little, too. all indicators that she's lying. >> let's listen to a bit more of this interview, guys, this is misty asked if ron thinks maybe she had something to do with haleigh's disappearance. again this is cbs "early show". >> he just, he hasn't really said like much about it, you know. he believes me. he doesn't think i had anything to do with haleigh gone missing. >> natisha, is he still standing by her even though he is announcing divorce this week? >> you know, mike he had an exclusive interview with nancy grace a couple nights ago and
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from what he is saying he still believes misty's story. that's not the reason for them getting a divorce. he says it has been really stressful and hard on them in terms of people looking at them, giving side glances. and the stress with their families. there's been a lot of in-fighting with their families that has happened the last couple of months and that's the reason for the divorce but not because he doubts misty croslin's story. >> didn't he say something to the effect of, okay, let's get going and ask the questions that need to be asked, something to that effect as he made this divorce announcement? >> right. right. he did feel people have thought all along he has covered up for misty, you know, being that shield for her from everyone else but now that they are getting a divorce, it's opening up the doors for other people to come to her he said so do what you need to do and find my baby. >> back to steve, when you look at this, again, misty is the last person for see haleigh yet authorities can't get the straight story. what methods do investigators use, interrogators to try and get her to finally tell the truth, in full. >> well, it's going to take a
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lot of time in this case. see, i believe that the boyfriend here may be involved. he may know something and this idea getting divorced is another diversionary tactic. but somewhere along the line, law enforcement will be able to put some pieces together. time is going to tell the whole story. she's either going to slip up or he's going to slip up but, believe me, they all slip up and just give it a little time, mike. >> okay. guys we'll take a quick break. when we come back, more of misty's stunning interview on the cbs "early show" we'll tell you what she said when asked what do you say when people don't believe you? her answer to that. we'll take your calls your questions your comments. here's the number: 1-877-tell-hln.
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someone come and got her, obviously. um, i feel like it's on the other side of the family that has her. that's just how i feel. >> all right. there again, misty croslin cummings soon to be just misty croslin again as she's going to divorce ron cummings, her on the cbs "early show" laying out her theory, someone on the other side of the family. we've dealt with that. we'll take your calls, as always 1-877-tell-hln. linda with us in new york. your thoughts here? >> caller: hi, mike, how are you doing? >> hi, linda. good. >> caller: two quick points. number one, why is ronald taken off the hook just because they said he was at work. god forbid if this baby is no longer with us, they have no time of death or -- or any means of which she disappeared. >> okay. point two? >> caller: and point two if you notice on the first "today show" interview with misty and ron,
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she looked at him every time a question was asked and he answered all the questions and, when he was on nancy grace and she was grilling him, if you noticed from the very beginning, someone was boo-hooing on the phone so much, now all of a sudden he's nonchalant and doesn't know the answers to any of the questions. >> questions about ron. natisha, what do authorities tell us about ron cummings? no one has been completely ruled out, right? we'll start there. >> ronald cummings and crystal sheffield have been cleared of suspicion in this case. >> okay. >> as far as her other point as far as misty looking at ronald cummings, i think this new interview today was a new misty we have seen, she was a lot more forthcoming with the questions. >> yeah. >> as ronald cummings has said in the past he's no longer there to be that shield for misty croslin. so, maybe police will be getting the answers that they had been wanting for quite some time. >> we can only hope. steve, what do you make of in just a basic point misty going out there without a lawyer or
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anything? i'm not for everybody being lawyered up but i think if anyone needs her it is her. >> certainly does. she might be as we say in law enforcement a loose cannon. no one is ruled out in this investigation and don't be surprised down the road somebody close to her is ready to talk to the police. we might see that happen. >> natisha, let's talk about misty's inconsistencies and get everybody up to speed. some of the glaring inconsistencies, what do we have? i know for me anyway, is ron cummings comes home at 3:00 in the morning and the beds are made, that's cause for concern. what else? >> right. she said she tore the house up looking under beds but we know they were on the floor, just mattresses. the beds were made. she said the kids went to bed at 8:00. she went to bed at 10:00. who was sleeping where at which time also who was in the home during that time, mike? we heard misty when she gave her polygraph and hypnosis and voice stress analysis, it was a dream idz like state and there could have been up to four people in the home but it was all unclear.
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>> she's all over the place, steve. >> yes, she is. >> there's hours of conversation with authorities. what do you do, just keep talking and hope. >> well, like i said, time is going to be the tale here but seems like the crime scene was sanitized pretty good. you know, things were washed, et cetera. but i'm confident the police are now waiting. she does more interviews, the more talking, the more police information goes out, they gather intelligence through viewing her tapes, listening to her. just wait and see, just wait and see. >> okay. let's listen -- because a lot of people, i tease this, let's listen to misty answering her critics, those that don't believe her. here's what she had to say on the cbs "early show". >> i just need to move on and look for the right person because they're focusing on me and i'm not the one that has hague -- haleigh, i don't know
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where she is. >> -- police would be able to move on if it they could get a clear picture of exactly what happened that night from misty croslin but because they have been unable to do that with her, they can't move forward or go forward to look into other leads or other things that they could be looking into because they don't even have a clear picture of what happened that night. >> all right. guys, have to leave it there. steve, natisha, as always, we appreciate it. coming up a horrific stabbing in a ucla chemistry lab college student accused of slashing a classmate's throat. poor girl bleeding as an entire class watched in horror, on campus, middle of day, middle of class. we'll talk to somebody who was there and witnessed it. we'll take your calls at 1-877-tell-hln. welcome backo
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"prime news." a terrifying attack in the middle of a chemistry lab on
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ucla's campus, cops say a male student slashed a female student's throat as some 30 classmates watched in horror. witnesses tell police 20-year-old damon thompson stabbed her several times even repeat punched her repeatedly. >> it looked to be a serious injury. >> yeah, it looked to be a serious injury. i thought she died. there was blood everywhere. >> imagine witnessing that. she did survive but has critical injuries. right now he is held on suspicion of attempted murder so. many questions, how did he know her, what was the relationship? how did this happen. joining me to talk about this cyril bida, who called 911 for the victim get his first-hand account and clinical psychologist wendy walsh. cyril, what did you see? tell us the story. >> i was on the sixth floor we have, you know, two labs.
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we have the organic chemistry and bio chemistry. and i was in the bio chemistry labs and then it was 15 minutes within me starting the class and i hear somebody yelling call 911, call 911, not from your cell phone. and so i opened the door and i saw the victim with the t.a. and the t.a. was holding her -- holding her up next to him and then he had his hand on her throat and, you know, she was bleeding a lot. and so, you know, in shock, i thought some -- something happened a flask blew up or something in lab so i waved them in and told them, you know, to bring them into our lab and sit her down. so we sat her down and brought the t.a. a chair and he sat next to her and like wouldn't let let go of her neck and, you know, we immediately called 911 and, you know, up until then, i didn't know it was a stabbing. so, the lady on the other side
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of the, you know, on the phone asked is me, you know, what happened. and i said -- i asked the t.a. and he yelled, you know, she got stabbed, she got stabbed. it was very shocking. >> so, you did not see the attack, you didn't see her being punched or stabbed or her throat slit any of that. you come into the scene after she's injured and we need some help here, right. >> exactly. >> okay. >> exactly. i didn't see it happen but, you know, it was within seconds. and you know, it was -- good thinking from the part of the t.a. because, you know, i think everybody freaked out. >> sure. >> when it happened and she was on the floor and so, instead of, you know, him leaving and calling for help, he made sure he, you know, he covered that wound and so, you know, blood doesn't -- doesn't -- she doesn't lose a lot of blood. >> sounds like this teacher's assistant did a very good job. >> absolutely. >> do you know the accused, damon thompson, do you know him
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at all? >> no. i teach biochemistry. he's not even in the class i teach or t.a. for so -- >> -- you don't really know their relationship or anything like that. >> no, i don't. i don't. >> okay. >> i do know they're part of the same lab, both in the organic chemistry lab. >> wendy, motive unclear. what do you see here? relationship gone bad or who knows? >> no, i -- you know, obviously there was a relationship or something happened that triggered something in here whether a hallucination or delusion and young adults especially college life a time when all kinds of mental disorders can come to true fruition and kick in i'm thinking of schizophrenia, for instance. so, we don't know the background of the guy or what happened here. i think the bigger story, actually the psychology of crowd dynamics. can you imagine 30 people stood there frozen and nobody did anything? >> wow. >> fascinating how that works. >> it certainly is. guys, we have to run. we'll continue to follow this as we find out more information.
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wendy, kri ril, thanks for being with us. coming up parents sentenced to six months in jail for praying instead of getting medical help for their 11-year-old daughter, to pray is great but get the medical help, as well. well, she died of untreated diabetes. well, they could have spent 25 years behind bars. what do you think of this sentence? call in, 1-877-tell-hln is the number. but for right now, want to meet our newest cnn hero. >> this is cnn hero. >> hello i'm depack chopra. for the past two years i've had the honor of serving on the blue ribbon panel that selects the top ten cnn heroes. as a contributor to the star fund global which sponsors projects that transforms communities around the world, i see just how much we all need heroes. now, i'm thrilled to help cnn
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introduce one of this year's top ten heroes. >> buildings being burned, people just trying to save their life. the children are supposed to have proper upbringing and what they were having there was far from being normal. my name is is -- i'm a pilot. i founded an orphanage to help the children. right from the beginning, we give them vass nation, clothing, food. but, we cannot give them anything more valuable than a proper education. a, b, c, d, e, f, g -- very, very good. we are able to provide and to teach them just be who you are, help others and do it from your heart.             
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my sister-in-law, she's very religious. she doesn't -- well, she believes in faith instead of doctors. we've been trying to take her to the hospital for a week, a week and a few days now. >> extended family were worried for kara's safety and their worst fears obviously came true as the young girl died before going to a doctor. we're taking your calls on this, 1-877-tell-hln. let's go to the phones. randy with us in north carolina. go ahead. >> caller: yeah, i just wanted to make the comment that the parents only getting six months, it's neglect. tall is issing inglect. if i was to whip my kid and make a mark with a belt or something,
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i'd get more than six months just to make a mark. i mean, and they don't take her to the doctor or anything. >> right. >> i go to church every sunday but my kid will always, anytime any of my kids are sick they go to the doctor and i do what the doctor said. like locking them in the closet and forgetting about them. >> what about the punishment itself, doug? >> the caller makes and excellent point kind of the logical next step in the nald analysis, mike, because of the view of religion and religious beliefs, the courts have tended to handing down what i call sort of midway sentences and eric's point, i mean, is if you accept that they honestly and sincerely believed that this would help their child, then there's really notice intent to harm. but what i was explaining earlier is, as you said, it has to give way. and another philosophical question is, do they have the right to automatically impose that on their child to the point where the child dies? >> yeah. good questions. there's a ton out there.
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let's get wendy in on this, because we're -- the couple showing no remorse even through all this, almost using -- >> i am dying to get in here. let me tell. >> drew: help us with -- >> yes. >> -- their mind-set. who understands it? no many. >> i have a word for you, one word for you, delusion, delusional, mike. first of all, religion performs a very important psychological function in our culture t. gives us a sense of communities moral teaching, comfort in our own fear of dying but if you think god is a trauma center who will step in and take care of things, come on a priest told me this in a homley once you know the old story of the guy drowning and three boats come by and every time he says, no, no it's okay, i i have faith, i'm praying, it'll be fine, god will save me. when he eventually drowns he says, god, why didn't you save me. i prayed. god said i sent you through boats, you stupid dummy. right? it is a kind of delusion. >> delusion. when they get in the courtroom and, mom, let me read her
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statement, no regrets. she's talking about the judge and the dilemma the judge had she writes judge howard had a difficult task in front of him today in sentencing us but wise to consider our children's well-being talking about the other three kids. the judge, also, realizes that jail time will not reform us because he has witnessed our faith runs very deep. dad, same mentality. i believe he almost used the courtroom like a pulpit talking about his faith. so, for them, it's, what their girl's a martyr and they will continue on in this, is that -- >> guess what else that judge, though, that judge sentenced them to getting good medical care and regular checkups for the other kids. so, yeah, he's maybe respecting their faith but also saying, hey, it is neglect and like the gentleman caller who said a few minutes ago if you lock your child in a closet and neglect them and do it unintentionally because you think it's best for your children, you still get sentenced, right? >> exactly. eric did, the judge get that part right, eric, to you in the sense they'll make i believe a nurse go there to check on the
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other kids every three months, they have to take them to the doctor when they get sick? >> well, i think. >> -- good wisdom from the bench. your thoughts. >> absolutely. i think once the family is convicted, the judge did do a very good balancing act in terms of handing out a sentence, he didn't send them to prison like a murder case. i love the comment these parents are delusional. well, to some extent, aren't all religious beliefs delusional, the fact somebody died 6,000 or 2,000 years ago for -- >> wait a minute. >> -- to atone for our sins? >> wait -- >> isn't that? if we go down the path to say that aren't we on a slippery slope to saying all faiths of belief have the possibility of being incorrect. >> okay. doug, what about that? eric's been bringing up, you know, playing pretty good devil's advocate, no pun intended, on this one. your thoughts on that. because he's raising that because where do we override faith? is what he's saying, right? >> he's a good lawyer and knows
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how to argue a position and my hat's off to him. but not to be a broken record, faith is a perfectly acceptable thing we can debate all day long but you draw a line, again, where a child dies under the care of their own parent because of their beliefs. again, you can agree or disagree with it. and then, i take the side of our psychological or psychiatric analyst and say it does become delusional. >> we lost somebody there. who did we lose. did we lose eric? if we lost eric, wouldn't it be appropriate? it is. ha-ha. someone might be talking, eric. guys, great discussion. thanks again. wendy, doug, we appreciate it. >> -- someone intervened. >> that's right. someone intervened. coming up, this story here new barbie doll coming out designed to look more like african-american women. the toymaker mattell says its new line is more realistic. what do you think about that? back at this one 30 students
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at one school accused of sexting naked pictures back and forth. what are we going to do with these kids, thinking they are going to get away with? 1-877-tell-hln.
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almost every woman and girl has had or wanted but for african-americans it's been tough to find a barbie that looks like them but when the first black barbie debuted in 1981 basically had white features. nia long a a little perspective.
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>> historically the afro-centcir features have not always been celebrated. this makes women, especially black women because it is about us but for all of us it makes us question the integrity of our beauty standards for ourselves an what really motivates us to make certain choices. >> joining me now stacey mcbride-rudz ban long-time designer and created the so in line style barbie featuring dolls a lot different from the black barbie you may remember. thank you for joining us. if people are going to just kind of be looking and passing thinking we are playing with dolls this is a lot more than playing with dolls. this is a long time coming. tell me what was in your mind as you were designing these dolls and if you felt any pressure when you were designing these dolls? >> no pressure. the dolls came from a positive place. i was watching -- re-living my childhood watching my 6-year-old
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daughter play with her dolls and i wanted dolls that represented her and african-american women in our community and i wanted the dolls to reflect what we see in our families or around. >> so, what do you want people to see when they see these dolls? and explain why these dolls have little girls with them. >> i wanted them to see themselves. they have fuller lips, a fuller nose and they have curly hair and features that represent us. and they also have a positive message. these dolls are mentors. these are teen-aged dolls. >> okay. >> they also mentor these little sisters in their community. >> okay. and we're going to address one thing off the bat that some critics have said and i want to read a statement from gail parish, a playwright and mother she says she immediately goes to the hair as many black women do, let's be honest between you and i. she says why are we always pushing the standard of long
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hair on our girls? why couldn't one of the dolls have a little short afro or shorter braids or something? one thing were you sure to do, they're all different skin tones. >> right. >> any young african-american girl can find a girl that looks like her in that aspect. but, they do all seem to have long hair and all african-women don't have long air. do you feel that you missed the mark on that? >> i feel like i put my heart within these dolls and dolls are for girls to play with. they love combing the long beautiful hair. these are dolls but i did represent that in the little sister keana. she has little curly afro puffs. >> do you get why that matters so much to the african-american sdmoount i know some people are watching are saying, why are they making such a big deal about dolls. but, do you know -- do you get why the dolls mean so much to people? >> they mean so much to me because they did come from a positive place. my daughter loves the dolls. i've had dads thank me for
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creating this line of dolls that represent their little girls. >> and i would assume that -- that mattel and you aren't targeting these dolls specifically for young african-american girls to play with. these are for, i would hope, all girls to play. >> with girls all over the world, yes. exactly with the positive message. >> all right. when can they get the dolls? >> they can get them now. >> all right. more of what matters, check out the october issue of "essence" magazine or log on to cnn.com/whatmatters. stacey, we appreciate it very much. >> thank you. >> a huge sexting scandal. one high school in pennsylvania, 30 kids under investigation, accused of looking at a naked picture of their classmates. cops are investigating serious child pornography charges. when will kids get the message? when will the message finally sink in? mike will dig into this.
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mf welcome back to "prime news" on hln. 30 kids accused of sexting, here we go again, huh? one school in pennsylvania. 30 kids, leave it like this an entire classroom looking at photos of some naked girl. that's what we have. let that sink in a minute. now cops are considering child porn charges, a felony, could label these teens at sex offenders, the quandary we have here, how to deal with this. we'll hit this on a couple of fronts. number one, don't these kids get it there, are serious consequences, we've got to get that message to sink in and what's the proper punishment so they understand what they did was wrong and can't do it again? joining us to talk about it, welcome back radio talk show host former teacher dom
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giordana. dom, let's start. here we are, huh, dom? >> yeah. >> man, what do you make of this? are kids -- why, i guess, why are kids not getting the message. it is wrong, demeaning on so many levels. where are we missing the mark? >> this is farfy not far from another place in pennsylvania another showdown between a prosecutor and a girl who did this. part of it is, apparently even some parents and others don't think there's too much wrong with this. they have the notion if you're just sending it to the boyfriend, what's the big deal. you and i know what happens. the big deal is, the boyfriend becomes disgruntled or they just share it with another guy and it's minor 30. this can go to thousands of people. so, i think it's with the person who is sharing this, they're either conned into believing
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this is normal to send to your boyfriend pictures like this and once that happens, anything can happen from that trail with the boyfriend. >> exactly. that's what we have to get through to these kids the real world consequences. once you send that picture out you don't know where it will stop, end up or how many people will look at it and also if you get in trouble for this, you could be labeled a sex offender. >> absolutely. mike, you know, i think it's extreme to imagine labeling the people that sent it sex offenders and that's why i'm intrigued with what the judge did as punishment but has to be something severe -- >> agreed. let's listen, basically life ruined, phillip albert, want to hear his story, he gets the sext, breaks up with a girlfriend, gets mad and sends it out. next thing he is labeled as a sex offender and life ruined. >> you will find me on the registered sex offender list
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next to people, you know, who have raped children, molested kids, things like that because i sent child pornography. i've being punished for the rest of my life for something that took probably two minutes or less to do. >> boy, that puts it in two minutes less to do. >> let's bring in judge mike powell. presided over a texting case. we applauded judge powell for getting it right. it was a tough sentence. it wasn't just a slap on the wrist. but these kids aren't going to be the next phillip albert and have their lives ruined. judge, you with us? >> yes, i am. >> first off, let's get back to what's happening in pennsylvania. 30 kids. isn't felony child porn overkill here, judge? >> you know, i don't think that's for a judicial officer to say, mike. in our system of government, it's committed to the executive branch to decide what people ought to be charged with. at least in the first instance, those of us in the judicial branch have to defer to that. once we get the case, we have
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some discretion as to how to handle it. and i think that's particularly true with juvenile judges. and for instance, in ohio, even if i would find that a child has committed the offense with which they're charged, i have the discretion to dismiss it or reduce it if i find it's in a child's best interest. >> i'll ask you this. should someone be punished the rest of their life, or a good part of it anyway for sending a text at the age of 15 or 16, judge? >> i would say no. i would say they should not. but what the appropriate punishment ought to be depends on a number of factors. and i think in large part, we have to identify what the motivation of the children involved in the incidents were. >> when we come back, we'll let you know what judge powell did. again, i think he got it right. we want to hear from you, 1-877-tell-hln is the number. dd
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missing haleigh cummings' stepmom, misty, gives a stunning interview on national tv. the last person to see little haleigh. she said someone on the other side of the family took this little girl. misty's talking for the first time about the divorce from haleigh's dad, ron, her soon-to-be ex after only six months of holy matrimony. an 11-year-old girl could no longer talk, eat, walk. instead of taking her to the doctor, her doctors only prayed. she's now dead. they're going to jail. one month in jail for each of the next six years. what do you think of that punishment? is that justice? we love hearing from you. call in, 1-877-tell-hln is the
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number. e-mail us, cnn.com/primenews. or text us at hlntv, just start your message with the word prime. it's your chance to be heard. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com welcome once again. this is "prime news." i'm mike galanos. the stepmom of missing little girl, haleigh cummings, breaking her silence. it's been quite a week for misty crossland cummings. as far as we know, the last one to see the little girl who disappeared from her home in florida. haleigh's dad, ron, the man who stood beside misty it seemed, married her even, he announced they're getting a divorce. today misty's on national tv throwing out theories, saying that haleigh is alive and well and with the other side of the family. take a listen. it's misty croslin on cbs's "early show." >> i feel like it's on the other side of the family.
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that has her. that's just how i feel. >> rrt. other side of the family? we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining me to talk about it, producer from the "nancy grace" show, natisha lance back with us. steve rogers, detective lieutenant nutley police department. natisha, other side of the family, who is she talking about? ron's side? crystal sheffield, the biological mom? >> it's a little unclear, mike. what i can tell you is that i did speak to crystal sheffield's side of the family today, marie, who is haleigh's maternal grandmother. and she interpreted it as misty talking about their side of the family. she said that she's not surprised. she feels that misty has made these accusations against them before in the past. and she said they have absolutely nothing to do with it. and there you go. >> okay. any comment from ron? his attorney? anybody on all this? >> no comment from ron and his attorney on it. what i can tell you is that
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misty did do this interview without the blessing from her attorney, robert fields, who said he did advise her not to do this. as well as with that hypnosis test that she talked about during this interview. that was another thing he was not advising her to do. but misty crossland is speaking out saying she's not worried about getting an arrest. she does believe haleigh is still alive and well and that someone obviously came into the house and got her, but not giving any more specific detail about what happened that night. >> okay. let's bring in steve rogers. here she is, talking about misty, not given authorities a straight story, yet going on the cbs "early show" throwing out theories. what do you make of all that? >> she better start worrying, mike. the law enforcement community, i'm sure, believes that she is a primary suspect in this case. maybe she doesn't believe it, but they do. and this is just another diversionary tactic from some individual who is a suspect in a
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very, very serious case, obviously. that's what i make of it. diversionary tactic. >> okay. and will investigators, will they go over that interview with a fine-toothed comb? are you looking for something she said on the cbs "early show"? >> absolutely. in fact, i was looking at the interview myself. i was looking at body language. i noticed that she didn't say it was fact, that the other side of the family's involved. she said i felt it. i watched her eyes roll a little, too, all indicators she's lying. >> let's listen a little bit more of this interview. this is misty, asked if ron thinks maybe she had something to do with haleigh's disappearance. again, this is the cbs "early show." >> he raent really said much about it. he believes me. he doesn't think i had anything to do with haleigh going missing. >> let's go to you, natisha. is he still standing by her, even though he's the one announcing divorce this week? >> he had an exclusive interview with nancy grace a couple nights ago. he still believes misty's story, that is not the reason for them
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getting a divorce. he said it's been really stressful and really hard on them in terms of people looking at them, fifg them side glances. and the stress with their families. there's been a lot of infighting of their families over the last couple months. that is the reason for the divorce. but not because he doubts misty croslin's story. >> didn't he say something to the effect that, okay, let's get going. let's ask the questions that need to be asked. something to that effect as he made this divorce announcement? >> he did feel that people thought all along that he has been covering up for misty, or, you know, being that shield for her, from everyone else. but now that they are getting divorced, it's opening up the doors for other people to come to her. he said so do what you need to do and find my baby. >> let's go back to steve. steve, when you look at this, again, misty, the last person to see haleigh, yet authorities can't get the straight story. what methods do investigators use and intergreaters to try and get her to finally tell the truth in full? >> it's going to take a lot of time. in this case, i believe that the
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boyfriend here may be involved. he may know something. and this idea of getting a divorce is another diversionary tactic. but somewhere along the line, law enforcement will be able to put some pieces together. time is going to tell the whole story. she's either going to slip up, or he's going to slip up. but believe me, they all slip up and just give it a little time. >> when we come back, more of misty's stunning interview on the cbs "early show." we'll tell you what she said when asked, what do you say to people who don't believe you? her answer to that, and we'll take your calls, your comments, your questions. here's the number, 1-877-tell-hln.
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someone came in and got her obviously. i feel like it's on the other side of the family. that has her. that's just how i feel. >> there again, misty croslin cummings, soon to be misty croslin again. someone on the other side of the family, we dealt with that. we'll take your calls as always, 1-877-tell-hln. linda's with us in new york. linda, your thoughts here? >> caller: hi, mike. how are you doing? >> good. >> caller: okay. i just have two quick points. number one, why is -- what's the name, ron -- >> ron. >> caller: yeah, ron taken off the hook just because they say he was at work. god forbid this baby is no longer with us. they have no time of death or means of how she disappeared. point two is you notice on the first day interview with misty and ron, she looked at him every time a question was asked. and he answered all the
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questions. and when he was on "nancy grace" and she was grilling him, if you noticed from the very beginning, for someone that was boo-hooing on the phone so much, now all of a sudden he's nonchalant, he doesn't know the answers to any of the questions. >> questions about ron. let's go to natisha. natisha, what do authorities tell us about ron cummings? no one has been completely ruled out, right? we'll start there. >> ronald cummings and crystal sheffield have been cleared of suspicion in this indication. as far as her other point, as far as misty looking at ronald cummings, i think this new interview today was a new misty that we have seen. she was a lot more forthcoming with the questions. and as ronald cummings has said in the past, he's no longer there to be that shield for misty croslin. so maybe police will be getting the answers that they have been wanting for quite some time. >> yeah, we can only hope. steve, what do you make of just a basic point, misty going out there without a lawyer or anything? i'm not for everybody being lawyered up, but if anybody needs one, it's her.
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>> she certainly does. that's rather foolish. but she might be, as esay in law enforcement, a loose canon. don't be surprised if down the road somebody close to her is ready to talk to the police. we might see that happen. >> natisha, let's talk about misty's inconsistencies. let's get everybody up to speed. some of the glaring inconsistencies. what do we have here? one for me anyway is ron cummings comes home at 3:00 in the morning and the beds are made. that's cause for concern. >> the beds are made, she said she tore the house up looking under beds. but we know that the beds were on the floor. they were just mattresses. the beds were made. she said the kids went to bed at 8:00. she went to bed at 10:00. who was sleeping where at which time? also, who was in the home during that time, mike? we heard misty when she gave her polygraph and the hypnosis and the voice stress analysis. it was a dream-like state, and there could have been up to four people in the home. but it was all unclear. >> she's all over the place, steve. >> yeah. >> hours of conversation with
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authorities. what do you do? do you just keep talking? and hope? >> well, like i said, time is going to be the tale here. it seems like the crime scene was sanitize the pretty good. you know, things were washed, et cetera. i'm confident the police are now waiting. the more interviews, the more talking, the more police information goes out, they gather intelligence through viewing her tapes, listening to her. just wait and see. just wait and see. >> okay. let's listen, because a lot of people, and i tease this, listen to misty answering her critics, those that don't believe her. here's what she had to say on the cbs "early show." >> i just need to move on and look for the right partnership. focus in on me. and i'm not the one that has haleigh. don't know where she is. they need to learn for the person who does have haleigh. >> that's all well and good. but natisha, she's the one. she's the last person to see haleigh. who else are you going to turn to? >> that's the hangup with police
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here, is that police would be able to move on if they could get a clearer picture of exactly what happened that night from misty croslin. but because they have been unable to do that with her, they can't move forward. they can't go forward to look into other leads or other things they could be looking into, because they don't even have a clear picture of what happened that night. >> gotcha. guys, got to leave it there. steve, natisha, as always, appreciate it. a horrific stabbing, a ucla chemistry lab. college student accused of slashing a classmate's throat. poor girl bleeding as an entire class watched in horror. middle of the day, middle of class. we'll talk to somebody who was there. and witnessed it. we'll take your calls at 1-877-tell-hln.
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welcome back to "prime news" on hln. a terrifying attack right in the middle of a chemistry lab on ucla's campus. cops say a male student slashed a female student's throat as
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some 30 classmates watched in horror. witnesses telling police 20-year-old stabbed her multiple times, even punched her repeatedly. >> she was on the floor. her neck -- >> could you see her neck had been cut? >> yeah, i saw that. >> did it look to be a serious injury? >> yeah. i thought she died. there was blood everywhere. >> imagine witnessing that. she did survive. but has critical injuries. right now, damon thompson is held on suspicion of attempted murder. so many questions. how did he know her, what was the relationship, how did this happen. joining me to talk about this, he called 9 # 1 for the victim. get his story firsthand account coming up. also clinical psychologist wendy wallace. tell us what did you see here? >> well, i was on the sixth floor of the hall there. you know, we have two labs. we have the organic chemistry and the biochemistry.
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and i was in the biochemistry labs. and it was 15 minutes within me starting the class. and i heard somebody yelling, call 911, call 911, not from your cell phone. i opened the door and saw the victim with a t.a., and the t.a. was holding her up next to him and then he had his hand on her throat. and, you know, she was bleeding a lot. and so, you know, in shock, i thought something happened, a flask blew up or something in lab. so i waved them in and told them to bring her in our lab and sit her down. so we sat her down. and then we brought the t.a. a chair. he sat next to her. he like wouldn't let go of her of her neck. we immediately called 911. and, you know, up until then, i didn't know it was a stabbing. so the lady on the other side of and he yelled, you know, she got stabbed. the -- you know, on the phone she got stabbed. it was very shocking. >> you did not see the attack?
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asked me, you know, what you didn't see her being punched happened. or stabbed or her throat slit, and i said -- i asked the t.a. any of that? you come into the scene after she's injured and we need some help here, right? >> exactly. exactly. i didn't see it happen. but it was within seconds. and, you know, it was a good thing they came from the part of the t.a., because i think everybody freaked out when it happened. she was on the floor. so instead of him leaving and calling for help, he made sure he covered that wound. and so, you know, blood doesn't -- she doesn't lose a lot of blood. >> sounds like this teacher's assistant did a great job. do you know the accused? damon thompson, do you know him at all? >> no. i teach biochemistry. he's not even in the class that i teach. or i t.a. for. >> no particulars between him and the victim, you really don't know their relationship or anything like that? >> no, i don't. i don't. i do know they're part of the
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same lab. both in the organic chemistry lab. >> let's bring in wendy walsh. motive unclear. what are you seeing here, relationship gone bad? or who knows? >> you know, obviously there was a relationship or something happened that triggered something in him. whether it's a hallucination or delusion. young adulthood, especially college life is a time when all kinds of mental disorders can come to true fruition. i'm thinking of schizophrenia for instance. we don't know what happened here. i think the bigger story is the psychology of crowd dynamics. can you imagine 30 people stood there frozen? and nobody did anything? >> wow. >> fascinating how that works. >> guys, we have to run. we're going to continue to follow this as we find out more information. wendy, cyril, thanks for being with us. parents sentenced to six months in jail for praying instead of getting medical help for their daughter. she died of untreated diabetes. they could have spent 25 years
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