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up first from ohio on the democrat line. caller: yes. host: what are your thoughts? caller: i am really disappointed. my grandma was 88 years old. and we have all been democrats. think,t they did, i really makes it look like we are hiding something. christian and a democrat, i really feel that the withs in on everything obama and hillary clinton. our whole family will never vote democratic again. thank you. host: what is your evidence for the fbi being in on what is going on with the clintons? now,r: because i feel that they want her to be president.
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obama,ne who is with everyone knew that was going to happen. money to dotaxpayer this because everybody knows it will come back that she didn't do anything. i really disappointed. host: thanks for your call. we will stay in ohio and go to the republican line with mona. caller: yes, i'm very disappointed in the outcome of this speech that the director of the fbi made. there is so much that we know that hillary clinton has done. it is very disappointing to know that she is not going to pay for the wrong that she has done. we shortly thought the fbi would frommething to prevent her
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running for president and doing more damage. she gets in,t if the country is done for. lou ine will go to pennsylvania on the others line. caller: hello. host: go ahead. that --i am astounded the fbi director acknowledged that what she did in the exposure of these documents but she gets away scott free, seriously? ?e can do whatever we want is that what happened here? mean, i can't begin to believe the entirety of this. would our father fathers have tolerated this?
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i can't believe this is happening in my lifetime. host: we will get a chance to hear from hillary clinton this afternoon. she is on the road, campaigning, and she will be with president obama and they will make a campaign appearance in north carolina. we have live coverage of that appearance beginning at 3:00 p.m. eastern on c-span two. donald trump is likely to react, he is holding a campaign rally and will be with senator corker. live coverage of that on the campania network at 7:00 p.m. on c-span two. the next call is deborah from north carolina. yes, yes, in my opinion, i think the world is that enough of the clintons.
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he was a womanizer. she is a bigger liar. she allowed him to do the same thing. that these people who lost loved ones in benghazi have not gone after her personally. host: we have sandra calling in from indiana, a republican caller. caller: yes, i told my husband all along that they would never do anything to her. if it was a common person in the united states, they would have been in jail and prosecuted. it is just not right. if she gets elected, we are done. i will probably never vote again. calling from
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california, a democrat. caller: i just wanted to say that i am leaving the democratic party. thank you. host: looking at some of your -- it is possible that hostile actors got access to the e-mail account. and also -- whatever he decides to do, james comey is destroying all of hillary clinton's defenses of her conduct. clarification, donald trump will be with the tennessee senator starting at 7:00 p.m. on c-span3. texas on the others' line. yes, i just wanted to remind my fellow americans not
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to abandon our country. i fully believe in the fbi. i am not that much older than hillary clinton. i remember a time when we didn't have this technology. we are still in the learning stages. i'm glad this happened. now we are aware that we have to be more mindful and set up whatever we need to do to protect our information. you know, we still have things being used in our segments of the government that need to be updated. that is all i have to say. thank you. ella is on the line from indiana, a democrat. caller: hello? hi. i love c-span. i would like to say that with
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the world being the way it is, there are too many haters out there. i don't understand. professionals in office that we are supposed to rely on. given his report. why can't they accept it? it is just too bad for the republicans. in my opinion, this is payback for the way that they have treated obama and donald trump, i hope he never gets near the white house. thank you c-span. from south calling carolina. i want to let you know we will continue to hear calls for a couple more moments and then we will replay the fbi director james comey. so bruce, you are up next on the democrat line. >> first of all, i'd like to say bashing this finding from
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there are republicans. they are dealing with what they have been given. this is nothing but disgraceful. -- [indiscernible] i trust our government. that is all i have to say. dennis is next. calling from montgomery texas. go ahead. caller: good morning. i'm a little shocked by this this morning. veteranyear military with a top secret security we get numerous documents about sharing information. there was someone in my career who was booted from the military .
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you guarded that information with your life. it is not fair for us normal people to get in trouble for a minor thing. not one thing is happening to her. that is what this election is about. normal people always get the bad stick. these people who are vip continue to go. one more thing. general betray us, one e-mail and look what happened to him. thank you for your time. press,rom the associate the fbi not recommending criminal charges against hillary clinton for her use of a private e-mail server while secretary of state. that althoughid the investigation found extremely careless behavior by clinton and her staff, the fbi areluded that no charges
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appropriate. he said the agency believes that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. continuing with your phone calls. next to beverly hills, california. got a newjust response as a listen to some of the callers. said was a gentleman who anyone on the democrats line should be republican. we had thist, terrible process that felt so coordinated and calculated. there are many of us who have been democrats our whole lives. i'm calling on the other line. i have respect for hillary clinton. i am disappointed that this should have happened earlier. this should have happened when immigrants had a choice. to hear this while we were trying to decide who we wanted to be our nominee.
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bernie sanders should have been our nominee and we should have had this information. it does show judgment that was inferior to the candidates that we had to choose from. i cannot say in a country where donald trump is president. ,nd so i am in this position and i think that it is not feeling good because our doing a campaign event with hillary clinton. they have to have a quick press conference now before that. "other." ially on theur last caller is democrat line from south carolina. shawn. caller: i'm just calling in to say that we probably should invest in technology to avoid these things. we had to keep in mind that this
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occurred in 2012. technology has changed. there are new technologies out there that we could use to better secure our information. and congress, they are not doing anything to adequately fund the state department. host: that is it? caller: that's all. host: thank you for your call. we are going to show you the fbi james comey statement in a moment. clinton will be campaigning live today in north carolina with barack obama. liveill be able to see coverage of that on c-span two and it starts at 3:00 p.m. eastern. donald trump is on the road to the white house today. he is in north carolina and is traveling with the tennessee senator bob corker.
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atwill be live on c-span3 7:00 p.m. eastern. now to the remarks from james comey on hillary clinton. comey: good morning. i am here to give you an update on hillary clinton's use of a personal e-mail system during her time as the secretary of state. after a tremendous amount of work, the fbi is completing its investigation and referring the matter to the department of justice. for a prosecutive decision. what i want to do today is three things. i want to tell you what we did, i want to tell you what we found and i want to tell you what we are recommending. this is going to be an unusual statement in a couple of ways. first i'm going to include more detail about our process than i ordinarily would because i think the american people deserve those details in this case of intense public interest. i have not coordinated this
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statement or reviewed it in any way with the department of justice or any other part of government. they do not know what i am about to say. i want to start by thanking the fbi employees who did remarkable work in this case. once you have a better sense of how much we have done you will understand why i'm so grateful and so proud of their work. first, what we have done. this investigation began as a referral from the inspector general. in connection with secretary clinton's use of a personal e-mail server during her time as secretary of state. the referral focused on whether classified information was transmitted on that personal system. our investigation looked at whether there is evidence that classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on the personal system in violation of a federal statute that makes it a felony to mishandle classified information, either intentionally or in a negligent
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way. or the second statute, making it a misdemeanor to remove classified information from a secure storage system. consistent with our counterintelligence responsibilities, we have also investigated to determine whether there are cases of intrusion by nationstates or hostile actors of any kind. i have so far used the singular term e-mail server in describing the referral that began our investigation. it turns out to be more complicated than that. secretary clinton used several different servers and administrated those servers during her four years at the state department. she also used numerous mobile devices to send and read e-mail on the personal domain. as new servers and equipment were employed, old servers were taken out of service and decommissioned in various ways. piecing all of that back together to gain a full
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understanding in the ways in which personal e-mail was used for government work has been a painstaking undertaking. requiring thousands of hours of effort. for example, when one of the servers decommissioned in 2013, the e-mail software was removed. that didn't remove the e-mail content but it was like removing the frame from a huge, unfinished jigsaw puzzle and dumping all the pieces on the floor. the effect was that millions of e-mail fragments ended up in the server's unused space. we searched through all of it to understand what was there and what parts of the puzzle we could put back together again. fbi investigators read all of the approximately 30,000 e-mails that secretary clinton provided to the state department in 2014. where an e-mail was assessed as possibly containing classified information, the fbi referred
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that e-mail to any government agency that might be an owner of the information. so that agency could make a determination as to whether the e-mail contained classified information at the time it was sent or received, or that we should reclassify it now even if the content was not classified when it was first received. that process is referred to as up classifying. from the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the state department in 2014, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. eight of those chains contain information that was top secret at the time they were sent, 30 6 of those chains contained secret information at the time. and eight contained confidential information at the time. that is the lowest level of classification.
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separate from those, about 2000 additional e-mails were up classified to make them confidential. those e-mails had not been classified at the time they were sent or received. the fbi discovered several thousand work-related e-mails that were not among the group of 30,000 e-mails returned by secretary clinton to the state in 2014. we found those e-mails in a variety of ways. some had been deleted over the years and we found traces of them on the servers or devices that have been connected to a private e-mail domain. others we found by reviewing the archived government accounts of people who had been government employees at the same time, including high-ranking officials at other agencies. folks with whom the secretary of state might normally correspond. this helped us recover work-related e-mails that were not among the 30,000 that were produced to the state.
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still others we recovered from the painstaking review of the millions of e-mail fragments dumped into the slack space of the server that was decommissioned in 2013. with respect to the thousands of e-mails that we found that were not among those produced, agencies have concluded that three of them were classified at the time they were sent or received. one at the secret level and the other two at the confidential level. there were no other e-mails found. none of the others we found have since been up classified. i should add here that we found no evidence that any of the additional work-related e-mails were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them in some way. our assessment is that, like many e-mail users, secretary clinton periodically deleted e-mails or e-mails were purged from her system when devices were changed. because she was not using a government account, or even a commercial account like gmail,
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there was no archiving of her e-mail. so it is not surprising that we discovered e-mails that were not on her system in 2014 when she produced the 30,000 e-mails to the state. it could also be that some of the additional work-related e-mails that we recovered were among those deleted by her lawyers. when they reviewed and sorted her e-mails for production in 2014. lawyers doing the sorting for secretary clinton in 2014 did not individually read the content of all of her e-mails as we did. instead, they relied on header information and they used search terms to try to find work-related e-mails among the 60,000 remaining on her system in 2014. it is highly likely that their search missed some work-related e-mails and we found them later in the mailboxes of other officials or in the slack space
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of a server. it is also likely that there were other work-related e-mails that they did not produce to the state and we did not find elsewhere and that are now gone. because they deleted all e-mails they did not produce to the state. the lawyers then to clean to their devices in a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery. we have conducted interviews and toe technical examinations understand how the sorting was done by her attorneys. although we don't have complete visibility because we cannot fully reconstruct the electronic record of that sorting, we do believe that our investigation has been sufficient to give us reasonable confidence that there was no intentional misconduct. and of course, in addition to our work, we interviewed many people from those involved in setting up the personal e-mail system and maintaining the various iterations of the server, two staff members with ,hom she corresponded by e-mail
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to those involved in e-mail production of the state and secretary clinton herself. last, we have done extensive work to try to understand what indications there might be that can be compromised by hostile actors in connection to the personal e-mail server. so that is what we done. now, to tell you what we found. although we did not find clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence they were extremely careless in the handling of sensitive information. for example, seven e-mail chains concerned matters that were classified at top secret at the time they were sent and received. those chains involved secretary clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails about them. there is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in secretary clinton's position or in the position of
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those with whom she was corresponding about the matters should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. in addition to the sensitive information, we found information that was properly classified as secret at the time it was discussed on e-mail. later upxcluding any classifying of e-mails. none of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system. but their presence is especially concerning because all of the e-mails were housed on personal servers. not supported by full-time security staff like those in the agencies and departments of the united states government or even with a commercial e-mail service like gmail. it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. only a very small number of the e-mails here containing
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classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. but even if information is not marked classified, the participants should know that the subject matter is classified and they are obligated to protect it. and while not the focus of the investigation, we developed evidence that the security culture of the state department in general and with respect to the use of unclassified systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care over classified information that is found elsewhere in the u.s. government. with respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that her e-mail domain and its configuration since 2009 was hacked successfully. given the nature of the system and the actors potentially involved, we assess we would be unlikely to see such evidence. we do assess that hostile acts gained access to the private commercial e-mail accounts of people with whom secretary
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clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. we also assess that secretary clinton's use of a personal e-mail domain was known by other people. she used her personal e-mail extensively while outside of the united states including sending and receiving work-related e-mails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to secretary clinton's personal e-mail account. so that is what we have found. finally, with respect to our recommendations to the department of justice, it in our system, the prosecutor makes the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence that the fbi helped collect. although we don't normally make public our recommendations, we frequently do make recommendations and engage in productive conversations with the prosecutor about what
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resolution may be appropriate, given the evidence. in this case, given the importance of the matter, unusual transparency is in order. although there is evidence of a potential violation of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before deciding whether to bring charges. obvious considerations like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent, responsible decisions and the content of a person's actions and how similar situations have been handled in the past. looking back at our investigations into the mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support any criminal charges. all the cases prosecuted involve some combination of clearly willfulnal and
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communication, or vast quantities of information exposed in such a way or indications of disloyalty to the united states or an effort to obstruct justice. we do not see those things here. to be clear. this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequence. those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions but that is not what we are deciding now. as a result, although the department of justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expecting the justice to argue that no charges are necessary in this case. i know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this investigation. as there was throughout the investigation. what i can assure the american people is that this investigation was done honestly, confidently and independently.
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no outside influence of any kind was bought to bear. i know there were many opinions from people who were not part of the investigation but none of that mattered to us. opinions are irrelevant. and they were all uninformed because we did our investigation the right way. only facts matter. and the fbi found those here in an entirely apolitical way. i couldn't be prouder to be a part of this organization. thank you very much. was fbi director james comey recommending no criminal prosecution of hillary clinton for her use of a private e-mail server for sending and receiving e-mails. we are taking your calls on this.
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we are also taking your reactions via social media. tweet us on twitter or on our facebook page. let's get right to the calls. linda is calling from florida on the democrat line. do we have you? caller: yes, i am here. say hooray for the democrats. republicans, there is no way you can touch us. also, james calling from georgia, a republican caller. caller: yes, sir. in regard to the decision that there is no negligence, i am also a retired military of 20 years. i had a top-secret clearance. and when you get in that position, there is documentation that decides whether you are
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able to handle that material. now, i understand what the meaning of the tarmac at the and thewith mr. clinton secretary in charge of all of that attorneys and so forth. i understand with that meeting was about now. that is the end of my thought. host: as of yet there has been no reaction from hillary clinton or her spokesman. donald trump has tweeted "the system is rigged. petraeus got in trouble. very unfair. " he also says that crooked hillary compromised our national security. act ii your phone calls. calling fromul
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washington on the others line. caller: you know, i think the fbi director is an honest and honorable person. i don't think he really had any other choice. because i don't think he would be able to get a job in washington, d.c.. with theis the problem system that we have right now. i think the pressure put on him was phenomenal. and we have to take his hat off for his statement. i think he is an honorable person. i don't think people should be upset with him. i'm not clear where you are standing here on the fbi director. well, i don't think he had any choice but to not bring charges against secretary clinton.
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and i'm not a democrat or a republican. but ifpport candidate anybody thought that the fbi was going to indict hillary clinton or recommend charges, they are in a fantasyland. this would have been done six months ago. governments don't work like this. your point.k we get on to maria in texas, a democrat caller. caller: yes, i just want to tell everyone that i am for hillary. i think that -- assassinate her life by saying all of these horrible things. they are heinous.
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this is something that really they are going overboard. wasted so much money on this investigation. that money could be used for education, especially here in texas. we have such a crooked government. thank you. leah is in texas, a republican caller. disgusted withm what has taken place. we are constantly told that if we do see something, say something. obviously this doesn't apply to the government officials that are appointed. the rule of law does not matter at this point with these people. not that this is a shocker at
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all for me. see ours outrageous to constitution shredded and congress let it happen. fbi, iy of the absolutely trust. james comey? no. thank you. quick reminder that we will possibly hear from hillary clinton on the fbi investigation this afternoon. she is going to be on the road in north carolina along with president obama for a campaign rally in charlotte. the president appearing with hillary clinton for the first time. live coverage of that on c-span two starting at 3:00 p.m. eastern. rally trump holding a with a potential vice president candidate. you can see that live on c-span3 starting at 7:00 p.m. on
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c-span3. again, donald trump tweeted after james comey statement saying that the statement is -- the system is rate. there he unfair and bad judgment. the fbitweeted that director says crooked hillary compromised national security but no charges. wow. we continue now with your phone calls. joe calling in on the democrat line from arizona. yes, this went on for four years. with hillary and the state department. and it should have been investigated right then. when she was doing it. they wait until she gets out of office. and then they start their investigation for a political deal.
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beennk they should have discovered a long time ago. thanks c-span for laying this out. from jackson, mississippi on the others' line. caller: hi, i am actually calling from michigan. i have a few things i would like to say. first, it is very disappointing that there are no charges. and atgross negligence the very least she should lose her security clearance, which would make her ineligible to run for president. the second thing i would like to called her the democratic nominee but she is not. she did not get enough delegates to clinch the nominations. superdelegates have not voted yet. she is not the nominee. host: sorry about that. we will get it right the next
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time. james comey recommending no criminal prosecution for hillary clinton's use of the e-mail. they did find she used numerous servers. and she was careless in handling secrets with sensitive information. this comes on the heels of the release of the house republican committee investigation on benghazi in 2012. they didn't actually mention hillary clinton to any degree. we continue now with calls from milton, florida on the republican line. theyr: it is obvious that were not going to do anything. obama bought them off. everybody bought the fbi off.
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-- because of her money. that is the bottom line. they had enough money to buy themselves off. host: we will go to a democrat caller in missouri, michael. caller: hello? host: go ahead. caller: i just had a call. boehner -- the republicans blew up in their face. and they just follow his lead. a couple more minutes of your phone calls and then we will go live to the u.s. house as members gavel in for the first time since the july 4 break. we will have live coverage. carrie calling from new york. good morning. caller: hi, i would just like to
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say that i'm not happy with the republican or democrat candidates. unless i cante vote for bernie sanders. host: ok. david in ohio, on the public in line. just goesu know, it to show you one thing. there is no justice in this world. and hit a stoplight someone, i would be prosecuted. law and violated the law. and she should have been charged. thate people understand this woman is incompetent to take care of our country. also, let's see we have charles in arkansas on the democrats line. yes, i just want to say
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that -- host: we need you to turn your tv down. caller: ok. thank you. i am very proud of the fbi. that law enforcement is a very intense thing. -- the candidate will have the opportunity to run and be effective. -- [indiscernible] bernie sanders. think it will come back to her. i want to say thank you for you
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all for putting this on. and giving me the opportunity to talk. thank you. host: a couple of quick tweets why we have the chance. looked at everything she did wrong and what difference does it make? james comey must resign. now to live coverage of the u.s. house on c-span. paul d. ryan, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january 5, 2016, the chair will now recognize members from lists submitted by the majority and minority leaders for morning hour debate. the chair will alternate recognition between the parties with each party limited to one hour and each member other than the