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president-elect carries through on his campaign promise to discriminate against our citizens on the basis of religion? >> we want to ensure the dignity of our citizens. it is up to the united states what roles they put in place in terms of entry into their borders. the government has given its blessing to an expansion -- of london posh heathrow airport. london's heathrow airport. a third runway will cost around 70 billion pounds. >> it delivers the greatest economic institute benefits to our economy. tooffers a major boost
freight operators. it can be delivered within carbon and air quality limits and crucially it comes with world leading measures to limit the impacts of those living nearby. >> the government has chosen a course that is not only wrong, but it is doomed. rock because of the people that will suffer on the backs of the environmental harm that this project produces. i believe this will be a millstone around this government's next four years to come. resigned and lost his seat. >> the travel secretary as set of plans to overhaul the way the railroad system is run. from 2018, each rail franchise will be run by a joint team.
our railways for it to be run under public ownership and public interest. it should have affordable fares for all rail riders. we can and make sure our network plays its part in making this country a country that works for everyone. everyone toget stand on the cold platform in the morning and managed to get into london. >> this edition of the jungle camp and calais. many are coming under what is
known as the amendment named after the former child refugee. submits the government to relocate the vulnerable refugees. but then mp's accuse the government of backtracking. excludexplain why they children of 16 and 17 years old given the recognition that they are still children and still vulnerable. >> we want to address the children that the dutch amendment suggests. those are children 15 and below his nationality puts them in refugee status and who are at high risk of sexual exploitation. >> children are at risk of all kinds of exploitation. it could be trafficking, forced labor and slavery. but this government does not care.
>> the reason that we do not consider children after the 20th of march is quite simple. we do not want to introduce a encourage parents to make this journey across the zahara and the mediterranean. >> you're watching westminster interview with me. can mp's were together to handle the health care crisis. as the year drew to a close, there were increasingly vocal calls for the government to do more to help civilians trapped in the northern syrian video of aleppo.
the city has been a key or -- a key battleground between president bashar al-assad and rebels who want to overthrow him. to u.n. warns that up 100,000 people were trapped there and that rebels were stopping many of them from leaving. hundreds of civilians have died, but the syrian government and the russians have denied. >> the numbers that the red cross has reported are accurate. they have reported that their is clear evidence of civilians being executed and shot on this lot. -- shot on the spot. there are dead bodies in the streets that cannot be reached because of gunfire and there are over 100 children that are
unaccompanied or separated from their families who are trapped in a building and under heavy fire. >> the former chancellor reminded mp's that they voted against military action in 2016. >> if we believe we have no responsibility for what has happened in syria, the tragedy in aleppo did not come out of a vacuum. it was created by a vacuum, a vacuum of western leadership. of american and british leadership. i take responsibility as someone who set on the national security council throughout those years. parliament should take its responsibility for what it prevented being done. >> if russia and bashar al-assad continue to block aid convoys into the area, then surely the government must finally except that we have reached the point of last resort when the previous foreign secretary promised that
airdrops would be used. if we fear that man fights would , as i know thes gentleman sitting next to the foreign secretary does, the government should consider using unmanned drones or gps guided parachutes. >> i'm sure many throughout the country watching television screens whose main feeling is one of frustration at the apparent impotence of our government to be able to get involved and do anything. host: he condemned russia for blocking aid to civilians. but he also criticized the referendum in 2013. notn 2013, this house voted to use force against assad even after he had poisoned hundreds of his people with nerve gas. we in the house of commons, we in the country, we vacated that faith -- that space into which
russia stepped. every sense of that vote, our ability to influence intervention in syria or two help civilians or compel the delivery of aid has been severely limited. next, the labor secretary asked another question. way that this no intoe can be shamed facilitating this vitally needed humanitarian aid? >> apparatus influence at the greatestime -- our influence at the present time is providing humanitarian need to people on the ground. this is what we can do in the face of this meltdown of humanity as of the high commissioner refer to it as. the british people are the second largest donor into that area.
the existence of a vacuum exploited by russia can never justify the indiscriminate bombing by russian aircraft flown by russian pilots. by russian aircraft flown by. -- by russian aircraft phone by -- flown by syrain pilots. >> say they are going to provide support for the u.n.. there is full evidence of war crimes being committed. >> there's the question that on the basis of the evidence there is a case of this being a breach of international humanitarian law. a breach of the geneva convention and the people in time will be brought to justice.
now, official figures tell us that the number of people living in the u.k. aged over 100 has increased by 65% over the last decade and many more are living well into their 80's and 90's. increasing longevity has put more and more pressure on the health and social care system. hell'sstigated what the care system will look like in the year 2030. the manning charge of the nhs in england said local areas should integrate services. >> there are things that we hope to do to integrate health and social care locally, but i believe those solutions are best designed by consenting adults locally rather than nationally. he wasnd he said inclined to look at provisions for all people more generally. in 2020, there are three different ways in which people's
pensions go up. be a triple guarantee for old people in this country. there would be a guarantee around income come around hiring and care. and i don't think you could think about any one of those in isolation from the other two. i can't tell you how depressing i find it sitting in the common chamber and hearing the politics over dish -- this issue. i think we need to do what was eventually done over pensions and accept that these dell of this is so great and it will be a challenge for whoever is in power. it is in the interest of all political parties to get together and have a mature discussion about how we fund this. i feel this is the right time in the electoral cycle for that to happen. the closer you get to election,
the more difficult that becomes. >> it is unnecessarily worrying to the public to talk about is the nhs and sustainable. the bigger question is, how are all help systems across the world's going to be sustainable in the face of the huge pressures of an aging population and the advances in medication and technology that are making us all live longer. there's a bigger question about how we are going to get more resources into health care systems. host: the next day at the prime minister's questions, one mp's said the system is in crisis. >> this system makes loved ones give up work and makes people
stay in hospitals longer and condemns people to an isolated life. funded properly, please. it properly, please. >> they said in 1997, they had sorted their manifesto. iny had a royal commission 1999. the report in 2006. in 2007, they said they bought it. 13 years and no action whatsoever. may, now, back in october, the home affairs committee tried to get to the bottom of why the chair of the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse quit. according to newspaper reports,
other members of the inquiry panel had concerns about her leadership. a committee on the professor who was an adviser to the inquiry before being promoted by the gap left by the justice. we really would have preferred to sit in the room with a panel. we were kept at a distance from the activities of the inquiry. >> so was she a nightmare to work with at some papers would have suggested? >> i would not use that language. -- would youage to use? >> that she was difficult to work with. later, allegations of abuse came forward and different
clubs since they were children. mp's wanted a rigorous investigation. week, i watched hundreds of thousands of children playing football. this is our national game. i appreciate what the faa is doing. the given that this is a national game, will she ensure and there is independence we don't disallow the sport to investigate itself. >> we don't want a witchhunt, but we need to make sure everyone in sport involved with children understand the nature of these wicked people. they have to understand why it is so important to put in place rigorous measures to safeguard our children and keep them safe. host: mp's said there were
problems with existing vetting c hecks. >> there is a loophole for sports that don't have government bodies and there is a loophole for people who are self-employed, not employed by another person. with the secretary of state take this back and look at it? it would also affect music tuition. broughtd colleagues to tears after talking about being raped when she was 14. i rememberuick, feeling fear and horror that i could not escape. i walked home cold and shaking.
shockas the shic -- response. i bottled it all up inside me. i realize now, i'm not scared, i'm not a victim, i am a survivor. i think the honorable lady what she said and the way in which she said it which left and indelible impression on us all. host: it was not the first time told a story to represent a possibility of. cause.sent a >> i went to the emergency room and tried to deliver.
the umbilical cord had been wrapped around her neck for hours. she stayed alive for hours. i did not want to let her go. alive. days of her being she was nevr able to cry or wantedbut i desperately her. thoughts.atss in my time now to take another look at some of the stories that made the news in brief. novemember, several
thousand prison officers to the day of action in protest against violence in jails. there were a series of disturbances, culminating in a right in birmingham in which inmates to go over for wings of the present. order had been restored, the justice secretary updated mp's. >> levels of violence are too high in our prisons. are reforming our prisons to be safe places and taking swift action to deal with the drugs. it is important to remember that these problems developed over a number of years and it will take time and concerted effort to turn the situation around. >> of all presence in 2015, birmingham had the highest number of assaults on staff.
, the presentficers government association and others have warned of the crisis since 2010. it is time fundamental questions were asked about the way our prison system is working or not working. there was unanimous support in the commons for a motion recommending that the former owner of bhs be stripped. poundsan 570 million ase lost in pension deficit well as thousands of jobs. -- hecked in heat extracted large sums and left the business floundering. a modest part would make such a difference to those pensioners
still waiting. he took the rings from seatrice's fingers -- bhs' fingers, he put it on life support and then took credit for keeping it alive. host: emergency action has been called to save the african elephant. there is an international ban on buying and selling ivory in other countries, it is still legal to buy and sell certain types of ivory within countries. the u.k. government announced it will spend 30 million pounds on finding ways to tackle the illegal wildlife trade. orit is estimated that 30% 144,000 have disappeared in the last year, especially because of poaching. 400aps there is as few as
to 450,000. this is an emergency and it requires emergency action. than now, there are more 800 members of the house of lords and some think that maybe just a few too many. there have been numerous reports, debates and minor tinkering's to reduce the size. many think it is time for a serious overhaul. >> this is the largest second chamber in the world and is the largest legislative chamber of any sort in the world after the people's republic of china. the constant reiteration of those facts, they cumulatively drowned the recognition of the exact scrutiny we supply to build the quality of our debate. host: scotland's finance
secretary has confirmed that income tax rate will be frozen in scotland. sending out his draft budget for he will protect household incomes and support jobs. some parties and trade unions criticize him for not going far enough. there is concern that the basic rate of income tax will be frozen and the higher rate will be paid by those in just earning over 43,000, compared to the 45,000 limit in the rest of the u.k. >> we cannot accept the same kind of austerity. it will limit the increase in the higher rate threshold to
. the high rate ,430shold will be set at 43 pounds. to commons has said goodbye familiar faces and brought in some new mp's. the murder of the liberty secretary shocked everyone. the conservative liberal democrat -- the conservatives, liberal democrats, and others decided to not bring in a new candidate. david cameron later decided to quit the commons. there was an upset for the tro--
tories when -- she took her seat at the start of december, flanked by her party's leader, bringing the total number of mp's to nine. and finally a replacement that was new to for another conservative who quit the commons for the government's handling of brexit. caroline johnson held on to her seat or the tories. means the number of women elected to the house of as the menthe same currently elected. 455. now let's go back to brexit and the commons where labor put forward a debate calling for a plan to signal the formal start
for the u.k. separation from the eu. theresa may agreed to that countered thatso they should follow her timetable for talks. we will probably the told the plan is to have a red, white, and blue brexit. we are the leaders in free trade, whereas we are giving up all the conditions that govern free trade in a single market. >> to say that it might consist thatnts, i want to remind when moses came down from the mountain bearing the tablets, it did not contain the full information. >> we are seeing oversight used
as a break against bringing our democracy home. once again the labor sides with .he national elite , almost six months since the referendum and we have thedays to go until deadline the government set itself. we are almost two thirds of the way there. progress mayacial be an overstatement in this case. we have the opportunity to shape and economic policy and an immigration policy that could make us once again a world leader. but if we don't take that opportunity and instead concentrate on seeking to dilute the results of the referendum, and i am afraid we will fail the
people of this country and this historic moment. host: a few days after, the secretary of state for exiting the eu made his debut in front of the committee in charge of scrutinizing his department. debateowing last week's in the house of commons, the government is going to publish its plans for the negotiations before article 50 is triggered. when can we expect to see this? once all the policy is complete. finalason for setting the possible date in march was a toerous, but the reason was carry out the policy first. monnuary, february -- next
th, january, february, there is still many decisions to be made. analysis,rying out 57 each of which has analysis of different parts of the economy. there's still a number of things to do. it will be as soon as we are ready. christmas,before parliament heard once more from a theresa may following a summit in december. she was excluded from parts of the meeting as other leaders approached their support -- approach to brexit. i appreciate there is a timing issue, but, do you not want to get on with this as soon as possible because the certainty that comes from that, which the business community and
other people in society want to reflect on the referendum as soon as possible? >> it is right that people want to reflect the outcome of the referendum. but for the government needs to take time to pair for these negotiations. before i became prime minister, i said we should not draw out article 50 until the end of this year. we looked at the timetable and the trick of it was giving up sufficient time to making this preparation and then to pair for their side of the negotiations. and also recognizing that the british public wanted us to get on with it. is, wherebig question do we get from here and what can we expect in the next few months? hannah white is here from the institute of government and
simon fraser. the negotiation is not just about of, there are 27 people around the table. what are they making of what is going on? we trickled the article 50 negotiation and it begins, we have to understand what the priorities are of the e.u. 27/ we need to bear mind that they have said clearly that there top priority is maintaining the unity of the eu 27. and there should be a price attached to leaving the eu. host: politically, that is going
to be difficult because if the government finds that it has to ,ontinue to pay money to the eu politically, they'll be difficult to sell to the public. there is a possibility that we will contribute to the eu budget. but the people who voted for brexit will say, hey, i did not vote for that. people voted for brexit for different reasons. part of the task of government will be to sell whatever they negotiate to the british people. aboutwill be decisions whether there is a specific benefit that the u.k. sees from being still part of some mechanism within the eu.
but they'll will have to sell that back to the public. far will the government be able to go to keep its trade links going with the you and manage the public? simon: the government doesn't have to set out -- does it have to agree to the terms and conditions set out by the other party in the negotiation. there is a strong requirement on the government to get more control over immigration in this country. that may mean that we cannot accept all the conditions for access to the european single market and therefore trade often needs to be made. thated to get an outcome people in this country think is the best outcome for this country. that is brexit, but with the least possible damage to our trading relationship. host: does that make something
like donald trump seem very attractive. he come along with the idea of some different relationship. for a government who wants to keep trade as much as possible, that could look very attractive indeed. simon: it is important to recognize that brexit is not just a risk, it is an opportunity. we should see opportunities. we have to take account of the fact that donald trump has been elected and we need to shift politics and geopolitics and how that will affect us. next year is going to be just as turbulent a year as 2016. they are going to have an important election in the netherlands, france, and germany. it will be a frantic situation and for the u.k., we need to work out our relationship with europe and the new administration in the u.s.. above all, i hope that the democracies in the western world
stand together through the tough times. host: and this will be tricky for the u.k.'s internal relations. hannah: we've seen nicola sturgeon talking about what she would like to see scotland -- c4 scotland after the deal. see for scotland after the deal. it remains to be seen the extent to which the nations can get what they want out of these talks. host: is the concept of the u.k. under real pressure? --certainly fact that certainly the fact that scotland, when we already had one independence referendum, puts pressure on that relationship. the nationalists in scotland have been saying there could well be, it could will push for
another independence referendum if they don't like the deal the u.k. government goes for in terms of brexit. of course, they have to have an agreement from the u.k. government to have another referendum. let's go back to our negotiations with our friends in europe. what do you think the worst-case scenario is? how likely is it that the --icle 50 topsail breakdown talks will break down? worst-case is my scenario that we will not take the article 50 negotiation seriously or that we end the negotiations and we don't have a clear way ahead of that. and then we resort to the wto option that is a bad option for our economic relationship. i hope that we can avoid that and pursue a course that allows
us to have continuity over the next few years. from the business perspective, that is hugely important. when we cut about interim arrangements, for businesses, not only do they know -- do they need to know there will be an arrangement, but they need to know early on what it will be. the timeline is quite tight. host: can you tell, what do you think is the mood around ministers and government? is that gloomy going forward into 2017? hannah: i don't think so. there are a lot of opportunities that brexit prisons. presents. there is the supreme court judgment on the article 50 case. will have parliament a say if article 50 will be
triggered. i think that is a technicality. of obstacles,ries the triggering of article 50, the negotiations will be gone through and in the meantime whitehall will be planning to mitigate the risk. host: thank you both very much indeed for coming into the program. and that if it from us for now. you join us for our regular roundups of the day at westminster when parliament returns in january. for me, goodbye.
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announcer: the presidential inauguration of a donald trump is friday, january 20. c-span will have live coverage of all the day's events and ceremonies. , ath live on c-span c-span.org or listen live on the free c-span radio app. announcer: for the next hour, a book tv exclusive. our cities tour visits scottsdale, arizona to learn more about it unique history and literary life. you can watch more of our visit at c-span.org/cities tour. part of theetter two decades, my family took a road trip every august to the
family farm in thompson, i will. we would leave really early and my mom would pack up the night before. in the morning, by 4:00 a.m. we were up and ready to roll, leaving before light. there is nothing more magnificent than being on the road in those early twilight hours. i never understood the attraction of route 66 or why it was such a big deal. it was just a run to me. about 40 years ago, my wife got spain.assignment in i wanted to find the ground zero for the cowboys. if i could find where the country stores emanated from, i would find the cowboys. because it is the country stores who come to the americas and bring horses, cattle, the
tradition of branding. they create the cattle boy we celebrate around the world. i was in the place where columbus set sail on his second expedition to the new world. left thto their -- he beach ii sat and on the spain.he route 66 bar in it hit me like a ton of bricks. they sent all of the european traditions and we sent them back a legend of the highway. realized, this is an international road, a legend and i lived on it. kid, i wasa little
so into old west history and i would read "true west" in the office and look up and say, nothing ever happened in kingman, arizona. history is what happened in tombstone, arizona,. city, kansas, and the dakotas. well, fast-forward about 10 years ago. i got a call from a writer. articles read a lot of about your father's gas station on the arizona highway and it would like to interview you. the very first thing he asked me was, what was it like growing up in such a historic place? did notd thing is, i know i was growing up on the most iconic highway in the world. to me, it was just a road and my father had a gas station right on route 66 in kingman, arizona.
my mother worked for the highway department. i made my living from it, my dad and my mother. to me, he was just another road. and to knowacktop the deal. of course, in the summertime, in my dad to gas stations, he had to put on night cruise because it was 20 47 and traffic was over to bumper. everyone was trying to get to california. we were the last stop before you got there. in this arizona is northern quadrant of arizona. there were about 5000 people in the entire county. this is what is the fifth largest counties in the country. the kids would come to my high school and they had to be bust in from the outlying branching areas and in some cases all the way out towards utah. bus in theget on the
dark and get off the bus in the dark. that was how isolated this area was. when the route 66 was really popping in the 19 six is, here we were, this barely isolated area that could barely get television and these cars were coming in from all over the country with these hipster kids and they had entered tubes on top of the car and we were like, whoa, this was weird. in the summertime, it just got crazy. my father had to hire extra help and they worked around the clock. three shifts, eight hours on time. my first job was icing joe. there was no air-conditioning in cars. everyone had a jig in their car job tor and it was my
ask them if they had any jugs to be iced. every summer my father would take a vacation. my father's idea of fun was to visit the family farm in iowa. school.r was old we had to get up at 4 a.m. and drive for an hour before we could have breakfast. we were going eastbound on route 66. we were meeting everybody going westbound. they were laughing, on their way to disneyland and the beach. we are norwegians going to iowa on the family farm. i remember looking out the window and there would be the size that would go all the way would sayesa and they gas, regular, 19.9, clean
restrooms, world's largest buffalo. -- no give, dad, can we stop and i would go, dad, can we stop? into new mexico, he get worse, live indian. ?nd no point, dad, can we stop stop becauseing to we had to get to iowa so we could eat five times a day and talk about crops. on the way back from i will one year, i said --, you have to give me one place to stop on the way back. he said, we will, kid, if we have time. father has a weak spot that runs from his era to the shoulder and i kept poking him, i said, come on dad. i said, he promised.
and he finally slunk that 57 ford into that parking lot, looked at me, and said kid, you have 15 minutes. those were the most precious 15 minutes of my life. i went into this museum and i was hooked. in fact, you could draw a direct line from that experience to me owning "true west" magazine. to me, it was amazing to see all these -- in fact, it looks like this room. everything you see here, i've emulating the craft those on the walls in that museum. i got home and i put it on the wall and before i would get to school, i would look at that photo. i said i'm going to have a hat and a rifle like that. i'm going to have everything that is in this photo. about a week later, my mom had to go down to desert drug to get
a prescription filled and it ran out to the front of the office and there was "true west" magazine. it told the true stories of the west. talking to thes lady at the prescription department, i ran out of the car and was reading the magazine and on page 37 i discover the photograph i bought at the museum was a fake. photo thathe a fake was taken at a parade in 1937 in santa fe. youone said, hey, george, look like billy the kid, get on that flat bed. i was so mad. i missed watergate because i was in the library trying to figure out what wild west hero and legends were actually true.
that led me to owning "true west" magazine. the thing that was so bizarre 1967ronic, one summer in and the next in 1968, i worked on the bypass which became i-40. i remember them coming through and putting stakes in the ground north of their house. we asked the guys what they were surveying and they would tell us because it was top secret. later we found out that it was i-40 and it went through the south of town. i worked on it and i did not realize that we were killing the -- killing the goose that laid the golden egg. we just saw progress. they were going to cut out 15 miles where it goes to happen erry.-- hackbb we thought how modern is that,
we'll have a highway and it will be wonderful. as soon as that highway opened, it was like putting hose clamps on both sides of town. it just cut off the oxygen. everything in the middle of that died. there were places that were out of business within a year. some of them took longer. it is sad for me to drive through kingman, the part that i grew up in because so much of it is a forlorn, torn down. that desert drug for i bought "true west" magazine is a vacant lot. there is one message is that the book and my life have. pay attention, we are all looking right at history. i want to reach that nine-year-old boy that i was, i want to reach that voice today and excite him about the history of our country.
>> in collecting, first i'm going to show you a book that is not collectible. this is ernest hemingway's "old man in the sea." this is a poor condition. on modern first editions, any isk that is not price script ed is considered superior. it has the previous owner's name, which is an negative. how you know a first edition of sea," yound the the look at the condition and no
serious collector should be buying this book as a -- except as a reading copy. we use this as a teaching example. it helps us explain some things about collecting. he was the most marvelous period rightin the before charlemagne becomes roman emperor. you see people exchanging thoughts for soundbites. consequently, we love the long call and we love books. are $25, $30 that and $15. and we have books that are in the thousands. we find the right person for the right book or i should say they find it.
if a book is when it is 50 or 200 years old or not in superb condition, it is not likely to be sellable. being old is not a selling point. secondly, we want a book of significant. whether it is a 16th-century work that was read by people in that era or a 19th-century work that deals with a new point of philosophy. i had a first edition of the "origin of species was quote by darwin. i will go into my most expensive item except to say that we have amazing success. we recently sold a marvelous collection with 16th-century also. aucer.h-century ch
all these books were brought to us. a lot of books you can look at and we say, sorry, we can't use of that. 99% of all books in our opinion are not going to be sellable. but the 1% or 2% that we do find are the exceptions we love. here is a nicer copy. this is "green hills of africa" and it is signed by ernest hemingway. it is not price clipped. it has this green cast. halfway through production, people realized they could not read the printing here because of the green. they stopped production and to make it all white in the background. consequently, this is called the first state of the dust jacket, which is even closer for the
collector on his classic on africa. on common textbooks, for instance, if you had a book from thomas jefferson's library, the library of congress would like to buy it. if you had a book signed by a major president, say you had a book by truman where he had inscribed it saying i appreciate and your role in dropping the atomic bomb. even though the book would otherwise be a collectible item, the connection, an association copy would transform it. here's a nice addition of the jack london and it is not a first, but it has interesting aspect to it. first thing, it has a photograph taken by jack london and it is signed jack london in here. dog at the bottom of
the picture. jack london has done an inscription on this page. , we don't know if it was in the golden or some friend of his in his, but he says, dear emma, never mind the new friends in cisco -- new san francisco, here's to the new library. here he is writing this california, june 15, 1906. we like this for both its condition and the marvelous inscription. not go out looking for books, fortunately people bring us books. books fromring in the 16th through the 18th centuries. they may bring us a rare western document. the earlyocument from
days of arizona 1864. everything is brought to us or we are invited to see it. we don't go out looking for it. obviously people bring us things. i would rather have a book scout find a something that he can charge $100 for and sell it for 500. everybody is happy. we had these protective covers. this is a true first. it is a beautiful copy. in this clinician -- in this condition, it is highly collectible. another way you distinguish first editions is, any person who studies the bibliography of american literature can identify that alone in most cases. a salesman's perspectives of "huckleberry
finn" and before and after the civil one of the best way to sell books was to show people the actual book themselves as they are being printed. from are scenes huckleberry finn. i see you have are ash a lot of books. wwe going to publish them in this condition. it's a marvelous copy and there's a way to study book history because it tells you how people were hungry for books. book salesmen going door to door and because mark twine was already collectible, they might
want his book. say, you they might can have it with this binding. i don't have the prices. in the back, this is where the people would sign their names and address and then the style of binding they wanted. that's the way books were sold outside of the few bookstores in large stills. the role of the ant quarne book shop is to get the best books, not just in terms of rarity and collectibility but just for the reader. if they don't buy a book, i'm happy to have serious people who look at a row of books and for the first time realize there's books on a subject of whatever category they never drefment existed before. we have a section of books on hawaii, to books on watch making. i think we sold those, by the way, but all these on secure categories. it captures, in a sense, the
diversity of the genius of people throughout history. >> dinam books was started in 1964 by my parents aaron and rufte cohen. they wanted to open a western history and civil war books store in scottsdale and the first store was on main street, and there's a story that when somebody saw what was going in, they told my father well, you're only going to be here six months and it's now been over 52 years that we've been in scotts dame. dinam books is to what i believe libby custard, george's wife wrote three books after she was traveling with her husband and one of the books was following the guidon. father was a great custer
collector. my mother loved the civil war but was very enamored with women in the west. we have books on western history. we focus a lot on arizona. of course, the southwest indians, apatchies and navajo history. a lot of people enjoy reading earp tombstone, the wyatt and doc holliday characters. sometimes the superstition mountains, just south of here. looking for the lost -- mine. but they're also interested in cowboys. we have a lot of early cowboy recollections. how-to ease. custer, a great selection of custer and then the civil war. scottsdale has one of the largest civil war round tables so we have people interested in the civil war here. we have a small connection to
the actual events during the civil war. lincoln created the separate territory of arizona in 1863. he wanted to be sure that our mining properties, the gold and silver, stayed with the union. arizona was part of new mexico tessitore. it was more leaning towards the confederate. there had been a large texas con things -- contingency in there. they came over, did a little bit of an invasion into southern arizona. peak. attle at capacho very small but it presents an opportunity for arizonaians to go and have an reenactment. but people come to arizona to live but they come from somewhere else and a lot of them make had relatives that fought in the civil war so they were still interested in learning
about their family, what they did, and the battles. reading about arizona, because it is such a young state, the 48th state, it also has the combination of being a great frontier. it had the elements of hostile indians. it had the element of mining and lost mines. and cowboys and outlaws. you have all of that combination within the pavept -- past 100 years and it just provides great stories where people can get interested, but i think guidon is important, not only for bringing an avenue for people to read books, but also supporting the whole arizona culture. the whole story of marsh tremble getting his first book accomplished. we're great supporters of the arizona history convention,
which puts on an annual event each year and it just becomes important to get people interested in history, keep them interested and getting our younger generation interested in reading more. >> you have the right to rainfall silent. you have the right to a lawyer. if you don't have a lawyer, one will be provided for you. and everything that you tell me today can be used against you in a court of law. did you understand that? they're called the miranda rights or the miranda warnings because the name on the kyles that came down from the -- case that came down from the united states supreme court in 1966 was miranda vs. arizona. they are as fundamental and essential to justice today as almost anything ever created because they're a product of the fifth amendment to the u.s. constitution. that's where they came from,
that's why we have them and that's what they stand for today. miranda lived here in mesa, arizona. he was born in messa, arizona. he was a young man, in his mid 20's at the time. he was suspected by the phoenix lice department of being involved in the abduction and the robbery and the kidnapping of three different women on three different occasions. all of those occasions happened in downtown phoenix. the pickup, for lack of a better word, was down in downtown phoenix. some of the crimes took place out into the desert. at the time, that was thought to be the desert. it's now 20th street and bethany home. it's no longer the desert. it's a major part of central phoenix today but that's how it
started with being a suspect in those crimes. the police went to his home in mesa, arizona, two police officers, and they asked him if he would come down to the police station in central phoenix, they would drive him down here. they wanted to talk with him about some criminal activity. he wasn't sure what tetcht and he agreed to do that. so they brought him down here d interviewed him or interrogated him, depends on your perspective, here in the building that we're in today. but the police had no direct evidence of any kind. they had know physical evidence. they had no eyewitness identification. they had no admissions. he was a suspect but they had nothing upon which to base a formal arrest or to charge him. but they asked him for an interview and he voluntarily
gave that interview. he was not warned of the consequences of this interview because the law did not require that in 1963. so during the course of talking to him, the police officer that was in charge of the case and was the primary interrogator or interviewer at the time, his name was carroll cooley, he was then a police detective. he stayed with the police department, became a captain. he's alive and well today. still lives here in phoenix, and during the course of the interview, miranda denied any connection to any of these three cases that the phoenix police department was investigating. he said he was not involved. he didn't abduct anybody. he didn't rape or rob anybody. he didn't kidnap any women. that was his clear statement so they asked him, detective cooley
asked him if he would agree to appear in a lineup. and they would bring in one of the victims or two of the victims -- it wasn't quite clear and if he's telling the truth then they won't be able to identify him, and they had no other evidence and they were open with him about that. they had no other evidence. so they asked him if he would agree to be in a lineup. a photo -- not a photo lineup, an actual lineup. that also took place here in this building and he agreed. and they have a room for that. and they found two of the victims who were able to come in on short notice. phoenix was a very small place in those days. so the two women came in and neither of the two women could each him with certainty. one of the two women said that she thought it might be the man
wearing poster number one. they were all identified as one, two, three, and four. only in this lineup room, but she wasn't sure. and the other one couldn't pick one of the four but agreed that it might be number one. but there was no positive identification. and so on the basis of that, detective cooley went back into the interview room where miranda was waiting and miranda asked detective cooley the question, did they pick me out? how did i do? some question to that effect. this interview was not tape recorded or video recorded. this was 1963. i'm tective cooley said, sorry, or words to that effect, they nailed you. so i think the best thing for you is to just tell me what happened and we'll see what we can do to help you.
and miranda did. he confessed to all of them. he described in some detail, although there's no recording of that. he described in some detail and detective cooley said, which was good police procedure then and now -- well, i'd like you to write this out in your own hand and i'll ask to you sign it after you've written it sexoit after i've read it so ernest miranda wrote a one-page confession in his own handwriting and gave to it detective cooley. and cooley read it and said all right, if this is the truth, if this is your statement, sign it down here at the bottom. and there is a reference in that written statement that this statement can be used in court against him. that's one of the four elements of the miranda warning.
o that participate is there. he then signed it and it became exhibit one. the only exhibit in his trial. this is the sixth floor of the old mar copea county superior courthouse. it still functions as a superior court. on the first floor of this building is where miranda was tried. we're now on the sixth floor. this is the jail part. he was kept here in this jail until his trial. and after the jail, he was moved a temporary institution and then he went to the state penitentiary. the physical presence is important because heaviest interviewed and jailed here and kept here during the trial. well, there were two separate trials. there were three cases. three women involved. he admitted in conversation with
detective cooley who -- to all three cases. put in only one of the cases was he asked to write out a statement. and that was in the rape of one of the three women, and it was clear to the jourp -- i'm making an assumption here -- that his confession is a true, voluntary confession. he said it was. he didn't take the stand in either case, which is standard process in those kinds of cases, so he was quickly convicted by two different juries in two different cases one day apart 1963ent into the system in and that led to the appellate process, which began after the actual trials. his lawyer on the trial was a man named alvin moore and alvin
moore at the time, in 1963, was a 73-year-old lawyer here in phoenix. during that trifle, during the main case, alvin moore objected to the admissibility of the written confession. and his objection was because he didn't have a lawyer before he gave that statement. and alvin moore's statement to the trial judge, judge yale mcphate was i object because there was no lawyer present at the time he gave that and no one told him that he didn't have to give it, or worlds to that effect, in the trial record. so when the case went to the arizona supreme court -- it went up there in 1965 -- that was the record. that there was an objection made by a lawyer on mr. miranda's behalf that his confession should not have been admitted and shown to the jury because he
didn't have a lawyer at the time he gave it so when the case went to the arizona supreme court, they came down with an opinion in 1965 and they rejected the argument by mr. moore that the confession should not be admitted because he didn't have a lawyer. the arizona supreme court said that that's not required under american law. the supreme court has note said that a con sfegsainedmifble if you don't have a lawyer. -- inadmissionable if you don't have a lawyer. what the court had said two years prior, if the suspect asks for a lawyer at any time before or during interrogation then you have to give him one right then. in this case miranda had not asked for a lawyer so that is the issue that the supreme court took up in 1966.
prior he breaching stage to oral argument in the miranda case, all of the briefs focused on that question, who has to give these warnings, are warnings required and if they are required, who has to give them and who do they have to give them to? just knowledgeable people or everybody? so that was the setting for this case. and the briefs in all four cases focused on the sixth amendment, which is the right to counsel. so when the oral argument is held in february of 1966, in the miranda case, there were two lawyers principally involved in the case. john p. frank wrote the breach and john flynn argued the case. they were both in the same law firm. allows and roca, a phoenix firm,
still here, and in his arguments to the supreme court in february of 196 . john flynn was asked a question by justice potter stewart during the argument. justice stewart's question was something like this. these are not the exact words but they're close. he said, so, your position is that there's a point in time when this interrogation becomes almost confrontational because the police officer is digging for a confession and the suspect is avoiding that. that's the case in all of these cases, so what is your view when this confrontation occurs? does the sixth amendment require at that point that a lawyer be appointed when this confrontation is going on? and mr. flynn said, mr. justice, the issue here is whether the man or the defendant has a right
to remain silent, and the only person that can tell him that is a lawyer. right, ifth amendment the privilege against self-incrimination and the sixth amendment, right to counsel are connected here at that juncture, that intersection. somebody has to tell that suspect before he or she confesses what his rights are, and that's where the sixth amendment comes in. the court after that argument fashioned an opinion that ultimately came down based on tang th amendment and gently tied to the sixth amendment. so the primary issue on the thenda opinion came down is right to remain silent. that's the first warning. you have the right to remain silent. the message came from chief
justice earl warren. he wrote the opinion. it was a split opinion, 5-4 decision. the reaction was from the law enforcement community very negative and very reluctant and very suspecting. so the law enforcement community said it's not our job give people we arrest information about their legal rights that. ought to come from their lawyer. it's not our job to get them a lawyer. and what you're going to do by th decision is the end results electric a lot of people will not be charged with crimes that they committed when they should be charged with crimes that they committed. and the reason we can't charge them is because they didn't admit it. and so the admission of crime is a very important element of all law enforcement, understandably so so the reaction was negative largely.
"time" magazine and "newsweek" and other magazines and other newspapers -- there was an awful lot of coverage about this in 1966. in 2000 in what is arguably the second most important decision about miranda, it's a case called dickerson vs. united states. in that case, the u.s. supreme court said enough. once and for all. miranda vs. arizona is a constitutional decision of this court. it is not a prof lactic rule's decision. it's a constitutional decision of this court. we will continue to examine cases that involve the miranda warnings and the issues and the admissibility of confessions but quit telling us that it's a prof lactic rules case. it's a decision of this court. what makes it interesting is
that that opinion was written by chief justice rehnquist. chief justice rehnquist was at the time of the miranda decision, a practicing lawyer here in phoenix. so histo reefments itself in many ways. miranda was from here. judge, then lawyer rehnquist was here. and all of that gets transferred to the year 2000 in which it becomes a constitutional decision. something interested happened in 2000 when the dickerson case came up. when you look into that case and read the briefs. breaches in u.s. supreme court cases, they invite a class of people, for lack of a better world. they're called am cuss curiae, or acquit briefs. friends of the court. they're note parties tot case but they're interested in the issue. they invite people to write
briefs, and a good many of those briefs were filed in the dickerson case by chiefs of police, sokes, other law enforcement agencies arguing for miranda, no longer believing that miranda is a bad thing. no longer believing that it harms law enforcement. believing what the reality has become, and the reality is that if the police officer does his or her job and gives those miranda warnings and does it in the proper way, tape recording, video recording, written documentation in some form that's reliable, then what's happened in the trial court system is that many -- i think most -- it may not be 100% but it's a very high percentage -- if the confession is miranda fairly t then the judge
routinely admits it in evidence because it is miranda compliant. it's become a good way for a good cop to get a good confession in evidence. use the miranda documents. document it. say it in writing. get the suspect to sign it. do it, record it. tame record it. audio record it. do something so that there's some evidentiary basis for it. so that's become the reality today and as a consequence, lawyers and judges -- judges in the middle and lawyers on both side is. prosecutors and defense lawyers don't argue much anymore about the miranda doctrines. what they argue about is were the miranda rights waived or not? that's the new question du jour. has been for a long time, so that's what's really happened is that we now argue about waiver,
not where and we -- whether, and we now argue about consequence in ways that i think are central to due process of law. [gunshots] >> i think outlaws represent -- we're really fascinated with them because they rebel. they rebel against authority and there's a glamour that's been attached to being an outlaw, sort of the jesse james or billy the kid. they don't realize that these guys didn't have really a very good life. they were constantly on the move. there was always somebody pursuing them and later, in the later days of western history, like during the time of butch cassidy and the sundance kid.
they had telephones then. and law enforcement could just call and say hey, these guys just robbed a bank and they're headed your way. one of the things that you never see in the movies or hear much about but it really drove the outlaw out of business -- arizona was kind of unique for outlaws in that because of the wild country, especially down among the mexico border, where you could just break the law and run across the line, both here and there. and also in the rugged mountains of eastern arizona, the white mountains and the blue river country and all that. that is still wild country to this day. you could hide in there and never be found so as law and order came to places like texas, new mexico, colorado, montana, there was one last refuge and that was here and so well into the 20th century, we were still dealing with outlaw gangs
rustling cows. y the way, we're still dealing with cattle rustling in these remote ranches. people are still stealing cows. en i started writing about lawmen and outlaws, i wanted system diversity as i could. with lawman, he was a no-nonsense, judge, jury and executioner. john slaughter from texas. he'd been a texas ranger and he was down on the mexican boarder and it was no holds barred on either side with lawmen. they were fair game. held just say well, the guy had an accident coming in and he didn't make it. and then there was bucky o'neil, who was one of my favorites. county.heriff of yabipi he was welcomed into office with
a big train robbery up near flagstaff and he had to go after him. he was a civil rouse and -- shism rouse and very likable guy. women adored him and men admired him. he did, he chased the train robbers clear into utah and brought them back and then when the war came with spain in 189, he went out and recruited troops and they elected him, the arizona volunteers and teddy roosevelt's rough riders and he was elected captain of the company a. and then he was killed just before the charge up san yawn -- san juan hill so he died a warrior's death. and i think probably the way he would have wanted it. he was this knight in shining armor type sheriff. you also had to deal -- you mentioned tombstone just now. made me think of curly bill
bociois and the clanton family and johnny ringo and hunt and a bunch of theis guys who were russlers. they were stealing on both sides of the border but especially on the mexican decide because there were big herd of cat until chihuahua. they'd bring them back to mining towns and the butcher shops, they'd buy these cows. so you eliminated the middle man in a way. one guy, ike clanton boasted. he said the reason i made a profit in this business is because i didn't have to buy the cows. the thing is, the merchants or the common folk in the town, butcher shops and things like that, they liked getting a better price. they could buy a cow for a fraction of the cost they'd have to buy from an honest rancher. they kind of liked having these guys around.
when they came to town they drank a lot, gambled a lot, spent a lot. they had a lot of money. cowboys don't usually have much money. when you come to down with a roll of money in your pocket and spending freely, because there's more where that came, from you're pretty popular. talking about lout laws. billy the kid's name was really henry mccarty. what would you call him, hank the kid? or henry the kid? even the famous wild bill hick cock, the kansas lawman, his name was james butler kick -- hick cock. somebody thust -- hi cock. somebody just called him why would bill one day and it stuck. johnny ringo is the best one of all. an author wrote a book about johnny ringo called johnny ringo, the gun fighter who never
was. i think he illed one guy we're really sure of. the others, maybe he did, maybe he didn't. he decided to exterminate the guy. the guy was washing his face. he had a towel over his face ying his face and ringo shot him. that's his only real standup shootout. a lot of these guys were pretty counterfeit. in the 1920's, the writers, the journalists picked up on it because america -- they had faded from reality into myth. and america wanted t. roye's movies. the movies inspired that. the first movie with the story, the great train rausch of 1903, it was a train robbery. and actually butch cassidy and the sundance killed were still robbing trains out west at the present time this one happened. as the movies got real popular -- the 19 20's was really -- 1920's was really kind of the
superhero. the silver screen heroes. tom mix and people like that. all of a sudden people started thinking these movies are real. this is the way they really were so many people today, all they know about the west is what they see on a movie screen so they equate everything to that. and i have to explain. i said hollywood is trying to make money. hollywood is about profit so don't expect them to play it the way it really happened maybe. if you really want to know, reeled a book. and the arizona rangers were organized in 1901. this is after you normally -- this is about five or 10 years after they say the normal era of the old west ended and we're now into the 20th century as such. but the outlaw gangs -- we had gangs still operating in the rugged mountains of eastern arizona and they were brazen. they'd steal a cow in the middle
of the day. come out in broad daylight stealing cattle. that was when it really began to fade. as far as -- in 1918 they were still having gunfight in some of hese remote areas like the gulare mountains. they're northeast of tucson. you go in there today, it's still wild country and few people around. i think as long as you tell a good story, and the west was the perfect place to tell a story. because you could have temporary issues, problems, but give it a western scene, put it in monument valley or something like that and give heroes like clinton eastwood or somebody like, that give him a role -- you know, people who are really drawing cards. kevin costner is today, makes good westerns. people like that that can get out there and make a good film,
and they also have box office power. and the stories are still there. >> ever since women first won the right to vote here in 1912, women have played a leading role in politics when you compare it to the national average. arizona's been consistently in the tom three to five states that much chosen women to elective office and i think that had -- has a lot to do with some of the early penny nears. i think the woman that really go the ball rolling for women in politics here was francis willard month. nd sandra day o. conor was griffin the award in her name. people say who is that?
she had a better than normal education. her mother demanded she go out east to boarding school. she was sort of a wild young lady, i hear. a hell-raiser. her classmates called her the nevada wildcat. frances worked outside the home because she needed, to like so many women here. often even when they were married they had to pitch in. so i think when you have women working outside the home, they realized the discrimination that occurs. schoolteachers were paid less than their male counterpart. women couldn't serve on juries. women didn't have the vote so she became an agitator for a woman's right to vote the led the suffrage association. she decided to run for office erself and she won in 1914, as
did rachel berry who was a mormon woman from apache county. rachel berry went to the lower house. francis -- frances went to the state senate and there she met with a lot of the same questions that janet napolitano and a lot of women subsequent to her encountered. they asked her how old she was, who was sending her flowers. they didn't care about her legislative agenda. they cared about her social life and one day when frances didn't show up in the senate, the their said oh, she must be out shopping because that's what women do. she was an officer from the general federation of women's clubs and she was attending that and helping supervise that and that's another avenue that women used because males were not too receptive to them as politicians. the female organizations here,
the business and president obama: women's clubs were very active in promoting women like frances. but there was one woman here in arizona that really did smash that ceiling for higher office and that was isabella greenwhite. she also grew up on the frontier on a ranch opened by her father jointly with teddy roosevelt in the zpacts she was a debutante in new york at the present time that teddy roosevelt's niece was. i think just a year after eleanor roosevelt was and those two became lifelong friends before either one of them was married. you could see in their letters. there's a wonderful book written by chrissy miller about them. two books called a volume of friendship and enterprising woman. and isabella greenway was a really smart political mind
early on. franklin roosevelt was impressed with her as well. greenway was a phenomenal politician and franklin roosevelt knew that. her husband was an upcoming politician but he died only a couple of years into their marriage. he was involved with veterans groups and she took over for that after his death and franklin had her and ell nowhere -- that she be appointed national democratic committee woman for arizona in 1928. at that time and all the women were talking about in these early years were democrats. arizona was a democratic state until after world war ii and fairly progressive at the state at the time. so mrs. greenway, as she was known, really organized women in the party, where as frances willard had been fairly
adversarial member of the political realm with the males. isabella really got along with everybody and she brought women into the party and in 1930, 15% of the lower house here in arizona was female. that's a number you don't see anywhere in state legislatures until the 1970's. isabella greenway really set the stage for women to run here and like i said, you see a flood of women enter the legislature in the late 1920's and 19 2013 under her mentorship. and one of them was nellie trent bush and nellie was an unusual woman. she was not from the big city. she was from parker, arizona, which is just north of yuma along the colorado river on the border. she grew up here in the phoenix area. she went to tempe normal school, which is now arizona state university. got her teaching degree and
taught school here for a while before marrying and she began her life both in biz and politics there. and she was the driving light to that community with her husband, but really she was the outgoing personality. he was a little bit quieter. she became one of the first female licensed riverboat pilots in the united states. she was a school teacher and principal there. she ran for public office because she was so outgoing. becoming the local justice of the peace and then a slate legislator. she wanted to go back to law school. she went down to tucson to the university of arizona, taking her 5-year-old son wesley with her. left her husband to run the ferry boats in parker. mom and dad went with her to take care of her young son and she went through law school with another woman named lorena lockwood and they were pioneers, the first two women to great.
one day the dean came and said you know, ladies, you can't attend class today. they said why is that? well, we're going to discuss rape cases and it's is not appropriate for women to do that. nellie's response was have you ever met a rape case that didn't involve a woman? they let them in after that. she used humor and common sense to overcome a lot. of prejudice against women in government. lorena lockwood, who went to law school with with nellie trent bush also found some barriers to her political career. she was the daughter of a very distinguished attorney here, alfred -- really -- alfred c. lockwood and she had hoped to go to law school and practice with him but he was elected to the state supreme court. she tried to go into practice by herself and with another woman and found that clients really
discriminated against women attorneys. since lorena couldn't find a good paying job as an attorney, she turned to government and became assistant attorney general but she also ran for the state legislature, again chairing the judiciary committee and became a fairly powerful person in the state legislature. and then in 1950 she ran for maricopa county superior court judge. maricopa county is where the state capital is of phoenix. she won that election. first woman here to be elected as a superior court judge. she served a lot of times in the juvenile court. she never married. she didn't have those barriers other women did but she was very active in juvenile courts and served on the maricopa county for several years before running for state supreme court. she was selected that in 1960 and chosen the first woman chief
justice of the supreme court in 1965. lorena lockwood, when she retired, there was a woman that took her place on the maricopa county superior court bench, and that woman was sandra day o'connor. sandra had grated one of the tops of her class at stan formed law school and like lookwood, she could not find employment in the private legal world. she found a job in government, i think in california in san mateo county as an assistant attorney for the county offices then she came to arizona, married, had three young boys of her own and she found jobs here in the state -- she ran for the state legislature. she became the first majority leader of the -- a state legislature when she assumed office in the state senate in the early 1970's, was chosen by
for ers and then she ran superior court judge and her nominations were always supported across party lines. bruce babb it, democratic governor support her at a time when politics were a little less contentious here in this state and nationally as well, i guess. and she's, of course, was named to the u.s. supreme court in 19 1. in 199 when all these women were elected to office here, they were called the fab five by the national media and there were editorials written about them all over the country. when they were sworn in january of 1999, sandra day o'connor, of course, was the first woman on the supreme court and was from arizona. she came to give them their oath of office, and these women, it was a big celebration at the capitol and i think it was
a recognition that these women had done this on their own that. glass ceiling had been broken for years, long before the women's movement. thans why you say you -- saw women in the 1970's, 19 eighty, 1 90's climb to power in the that ike o'connor and pool tano because of the women that came before them. they wanted to get into politics because their interests were not being represented by the big entries and nobody was really paying much attention to the rights of women. there were a lot of widows here and when women entered the legislature -- this was the first place in the country that had state-supported widow's pension. they also wanted to improve schools, which a lot of men were not paying too much attention to. good roads. women in legislature were always
advocates of good roads. but if you're a woman alone in a mold-t out in the desert, it was a dangerous place to be and they really wanted to get roads paved. i know that isabella greenway when she was in congress worked really hard to get route 66 paved. in the winter the it was basically closed down. northern arizona and the rain and mud and slush would make that interstate closed. she worked for good roads and in the state legislature too, there were a lot of those issues that women saw ignored by men. again, they had experience as businesswomen and knew how to get things done so they were inclined to run for aufrls. >> our visit to scottsdale, arizona is a book tv exclusive and we showed it today to introduce you to c-span's cities tour. for five years we've traveled to
u.s. cities, bringing the book scene to more of our viewers. >> next week president obama head to capitol hill for a meeting with congressional democrats to strategize about how to keep donald trump and republican majority in congress from dismantling the affordable care act. the meeting is skilled for the 9:00 a.m. on wednesday in the congressional visitors senate. democrats in the house and senate were invited to the meeting this morning. >> join us on tuesday for live coverage of the opening day of the new congress. watch the official swearing in of the new and re-elected members of the house and senate and the election of the speaker of the house. our all-day live coverage of the day's events from capitol hill begins at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span and c-span org. or you can listen to it on the free c-span radio app. >> represent elect jimmy pa neta
representing california's 20th district, a democrat. you're not new to washington. >> i was actually born here but my first memories were in my home of carmel valley. as i grew up there i would come back and visit our father, who was here. >> who was your father and what were you coming out here to see him do? >> he was a congressional member at the present time. his name was leon panetta, is leon panetta. >> what do you remember about those days coming here when your dad was a house member? jimmy: i came out in a formative member of my life so back then the memories last. my first time out here that i remember was in second grade, the summer of 1977. basically, it was kind of -- back then parents were a little different about how they would allow their kids to wander around and i pretty much had free rein, it felt like. not just the capitol or capitol hill but pretty much the whole
mall. going around as an 8-year-old running around, it was a neat experience. being here now evokes a lot of memories i had back then. >> what impressions did you have back then that maybe led to you want to seek a house seat for yourself? jimmy: it's funny because some of my other members were -- after college i interned with the state department but during that time i lived with my father, who was still a congressional member and three other congress members. we shared an apartment on d street. george miller, marty russo, from illinois, and then my father and i on the full-sized bed and across the way was now-senator chuck schumer on the foldout couch so being there watching these men who would go out and do great things. getting up with them in the morning, seeing them put on their pants the same way i did
made me realize that they're just regular guys who were working very hard going out and doing great things that. inspired me. one thing i'll never forget was the collegiate alty that not just those four had but all the nkangal members seemed to have at that point. not just democrats but republicans. there was a kesmstary among congressional members they firmly believe led to their ability to compromise and so i look to reinstilling that here on capitol hill as best as i can. we've definitely developed it over this last week and a half that we've been here at new member orientation, at least with the democrats but i look guard to doing it with the republicans as well. >> after that internship, what did you do next? jimmy: i worked in alaska on a noaa research vessel off the
coast. when i was here i met a commander who was working at my father's office and said hey, if you ever want to get on a ship, let me know. realizing that my four ream mates at the time here in washington, d.c. had all gone to law school, that sort of inspired me to go to law school. not that i knew they wanted to be a prosecutor, which i came to be, but i knew it was good education to have. but i knew i didn't want to go yet. i got back home and called him and next thing i know i was on a shim off the coast of alaska doing research. the truth is i was an ordinary seamen cleaning a lot of toilets, busting a lot of paint and greasing a lot of lines. but it was good experience. experience as a college graduate being stuck on a 230-foot shim with a bunch of salty sailors who didn't take too confinedly to me at first. you realize you have to do the job and earn their respect.
and i did and they asked me to come back and be an officer. but i turned that down and went to research at the institute of international studies and then went to law school at santa clara university and then got a job at the alameda office for 13 years. one of the years i was deployed in afghanistan. prosecutor orme a monterey county. when i was in afghanistan working with the joint oranges command i was. to be amongst true heroes, people who were at the tip of the spear. it was just an honor to be there, be able to work with them and see what they go through. not just -- just weekly or monthly but night after night. so it was a true honor to be there to assist them to help them out as an intelligence
officer. i wasn't a trigger puller, just ensuring they were going on the right missions and hopefully being safe doing it. i did my job and they felt i did it well. that's why they awarded me with that distinction. >> with your background and your family tradition of serving, what do you want to accomplish here? what do you hope to do? jimmy: if you understand where i come from on the central coast, the important thing there is agriculture. it was the number one industry in that area. brings in 10 billion to the tri-county area, provides over 100,000 jobs annually. what you realize is that there are people who come here, not just to our country but specific which i to that community to crisket and to help their families, be it here or in their countries of birth. immigration and immigration re: is very important. i realize that we have a president who didn't talk about immigration reform. he talked about building a wall.
so you just hope that if there is border security that that comes with comprehensive immigration reform that will entail border security but also entail a pathway to citizenship for the 11 million undocumented that are here in this country as well as a change in the visa process to make it easier for people to come here, contribute to our country and our communal. another issue that affected our community as a prosecutor was mental health issues. we can't rely on the criminal justice system anymore to take care of our mental health issues. it falls on the community to do it so you realize, as i saw, in small counties, they don't have the resources so we have to rely on the state and i think it's time for the federal government to step up and help out too. >> did your dad give you any advice about serving and being a member of the house? jimmy: of course. i'd be remiss if i didn't talk
to my father about this he had 16 very productive years here and at that time they got things done. i think the key to it, and it's what i'm saying now, it's the ability to talk to each other. he said look, you're always going to have to deal with >>. he used another world for that. if you know my father, he's fond of swearing. he said look, you're always going to deal with >>. it's making sure you deal with them, making sure you talk with them. to me, what i'm saying, it's about relationships here. it's about personalities and relationships and being able to deal with all times. i saw it this morning at the caucus that we attended and it's being able to learn to talk to people, work with people and just have a relationship with people. i think that's foundational with anything and that's what i hope to establish here. look, i realize i'm in the minority party. that was discussed quite a bit today but if you talk to the
member who i'm replacing, congressman sam farr, who did a hell of a job for the central coast in his 23 years there, he will tell you most of the time he was in the minority but the reason he was so successful was because of his rhythms . relationships with democrats, relationships with republicans. that's the most important thing. my father learned, as i've learned that it is about relationships here. >> and what about his advice for balancing your job out here but also your family obligations back in california? jimmy: look, my father came into elected office in i was -- when i was in second grade. came in with off the young turks. bep heart and gore. what think -- my father made sure to always do, just as sam farr did, always come home. another lesson i learned from my
father, always going home saved his butt. he was in the nixon administration. he got fired. where'd he go? ended up going back home, became a democrat. he was here for 16 years as a congress member. he came home every weekend. why? one, because it keeps you attached to that area. it keeps you attached to the constituents that you represent, but two, it's your home. we work here in washington but the central coast of california, carmel county, california, that's my home. i will go back home as much as i can. my family, my wife. my two daughters who are 10 and 11 go to the same public schools i did. i want them to be cormel valley kids, not beltway kids. they're going to be raised the same way i did. they're going to have their own identity. that's important. it's making sure that your family lives their lives, not just your life. that's how we did it with my two
other brothers. they made sure we were jimmy, chris, and carmelo, not that we were leon's kids. that's the most important thing is being sure they have their own identity. >> does that mean your -- you're -- with people here in washington? >> that's what we're looking at to do. we're looking at a place i'll probably share with two or three congressmen. i wouldn't want to share a full-sized bed but it's good to have that because it ads to the chemistry. >> any potential republican roommates? >> look, you bet. if that's the situation, i would be honored to have that. that's what it's about. it's about working together, talking to one another, being with one another and most importantly, it's about getting
things done. it's foifpble those -- because itches back here in -- i was back here in january and i spoke to a congressional member and he said it's easy to be an average congress member. i said what do you mean by that? i wasn't used to that because of what we saw from sam and my father. we had above-average representation on the central coast. he said you get elected here, you vote the party line, you get re-elected and keep on doing it over and over. i asked my dad, somebody said it's easy to be an average congress member. he said of course it is but you know what, it's fun when you get stuff done. he used another s-word but i got the point. it is fun when you get stuff done and that's what this job is about. i can't do it alone. it takes other democrats and republicans and hopefully we can
do it together. that's why i'm here and the voters sent me here, to work together, work across the aisle and get stuff done and i only hope i can do that. >> waxed, in memoriam 2016 we remember some of the notable men and women who died this year, including shimon peres, john glenn, mom and ali -- muhammad ali, and janet reno. also, events in the british parliament. as 2016 draws to a close, c-span notes the passing of important figures in politics and public affairs. our in memoriam program begins at portions of the funeral service held earlier this year for israeli prime minister shimon peres, and remarks
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