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tv   Representative Hoyer Holds Roundtable Discussion on Immigration  CSPAN  August 19, 2017 10:55am-12:02pm EDT

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there is no destroyer escort. there are not enough people is missing.t it is sent into submarine-infested waters and is sunk. the story is that no one is whatng for them and happens. what happens is that they drown, they die of dehydration, sharks eat them. it is it terrible story. house minority whip steny to discuss the future of the obama administration program to allow certain undocumented immigrants who entered the u.s. as miners to remain in the country without the threat of deportation. those benefiting talked about the experiences and challenges that they faced. this is just over an hour. >> thank you very much.
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thank you for joining this very important conversation. today, i have the honor to introduce a leader in our community. people say that he represented congressional district in maryland. but that is not true. he represented all of us. only reason that we have any problems related to immigration or healthcare or all of that, we only pick up the call and call the congressman. we need to work together immediately. join and jump to help our community. that is a reason he's a leader. thank you very much congressman for joining us. we are going to have this conversation about 2 very important issues in our community. number one, is daca. tomorrow is our fifth anniversary for this extraordinary
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program that is impacting the lives of so many young leaders. we want to have the conversation with you about that. the second one is cps. more than 300,000 people also have tps. the majority of the programs recipients are in the d.c. area. this program is at risk. we want to have a conversation with you about that. we want to hear from you, what you think about this and how we can work together. please, join me and welcome congressman steny hoyer. [applause] >> we respond immediately, because gustavo gets mad at us. i want to thank all the staff that is here. from the coo who does all the
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work, that is the deal. that is the trick of being a good coo. i want to thank all the staff who does such extraordinary work in such an extraordinary way in our region. not just prince george's county, but montgomery county and washington, d.c. i know someone said they were living in virginia. that is fine. we are a community in the washington metropolitan area. we are glad to have you here. the last time i was here louis , gutierrez with me. we had a rally, gustavo. we had a lot of people there anding about immigration comprehensive immigration. talking about treating people fairly. treating people in the best interest of our country. not just their best interest,
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but the best interest of our country. i want to thank you for being here. i look forward to hearing your viewpoint, your story, with the impact of the actions in washington would be to you, your family's, and your employers, two people that you work with. i want to introduce claudia from fort worth. she is in the back. focusedis particularly on these issues for me, as well as a number of other staffers. betsy bossert, she's my district director. terence taylor as well, who works when gustavo calls or any of you call. i want to thank casa maryland, who does such a next-door ordinary job. such a critical job. all of the volunteers.
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i want to thank the volunteers as well. or if some of you are not volunteers, but i tell my staff when they leave, when they go to another job, almost always making more money, i offer the staff, i consider them as always sort of permanent staff. casa has been instrumental in providing resources for those who face the daily threat of deportation. in addition, the services -- you talked about health care, housing, all the things that confront all of us. some of us know who to call don't know who to call, so they but so many of us don't know who to call, so they call casa for them and their families.
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the response you get is critically important to their welfare and the welfare of our community. again thank you very much. ,for several undocumented young million people were brought here as miners -- minors and know no other country, no other language -- although their parents are great parents may speak the language at home -- but for all intent and purposes they are americans. to say to them you are no longer welcome here is morally, individually, as well as hopefully, legally unacceptable. casa's advocacy is critical in timely. several states attorneys general
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are demanding president trump -- president obama end this program in repeal. i mean president trump. president obama put in place for the best interest of america. yes, it is those -- it is a benefit for those of you who are beneficiaries, but it is also for the best interest of america. if he were to repeal this program, it would be a humanitarian disaster and a breach of our nation's values. democrats will not sit idly by. there are republicans who will not sit idly by, hopefully enough to make a difference. i will tell you, leader pelosi,
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and myself and drove currently -- joe crowley who were business one the most diverse districts in the country in queens in new york, we have all said that we will do whatever we can do to ensure that daca children, young adults, and families are protected. we have conveyed that to the administration. if the administration pursue a policy of deportation and humiliation of immigrants who simply wish to build a better life here, escape poverty, and violence. i was chairman of cooperation in europe and i used to travel to the soviet union and say to them, allow families to be reunited. allow people to come out of the
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soviet union and be with their wife or father or mother or brother or sister as a united family. if i went to the soviet union and other countries to ask for that can i expect less from my , own country? the answer is an emphatic no. some years ago, united states senate passed a comprehensive immigration bill. it provided for security of the border. if you talk to luis gutierrez, or lucille or anybody else from the hispanic caucus for the asian pacific american caucus, they will say security at our borders is critically important. we all understand that. in an age of terrorism, domestic terrorism the other day, but
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terrorism nonetheless, we need to know who is coming into our country. we have always been a country that lifted its lamp beside a golden door offering hope and sanctuary. escaping from violence, sanctuary for people. unfortunately, we do not seem to be carrying that sanctuary roll out as it should be carried out by our country for people who want to build a better life here and escape the violence that threatens their lives and their family's lives. in maryland, dreamers add over $500 millions annually.
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our country's economy would lose $460 billion over the next 10 years. that is 46 billion dollars a year. that is how much dreamers add to our culture and society every year. $46 billion. that's why i will continue to push for comprehensive immigration reform that creates a pathway to citizenship. that's why have supported and cosponsored luis gutierrez's bill. and i will sponsor another bill as well to ensure there is a pathway to citizenship. unfortunately, that bill will not be brought to the floor by our republican friends.
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had it been brought to the floor end of the last congress, it would have passed. it had of them was on the floor of representatives to pass. floorhad the votes on the of the house of representatives to pass. i want to thank all of you for being here and all of you who will give me your stories. because real life experiences are very compelling for our voters. if you talk in the abstract, you sort of -- ok, i think that is right. but when you talk about , individuals and the impact it has had on them and their families, that grabs people. they then understand why hoyer cares so much about this. why you care so much about this. because it affects individuals one at a time. then their families, then their
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employer or employee use, then the community, then the nation. i will stop talking and let you talk as i want to hear from you. thank all of you for being here. [applause] >> thank you very much for your work. it is my honor to introduce to you to extraordinary he wrote for me. there he heroes because of that 2en fighting for justice -- extraordinary heroes for may. -- they are heroes because of they have been fighting for justice and comprehensive immigration reform for their families and their selves. natalie immigrated with her parents from chile when she was a child. thanks to daca, she is a successful manager of a state farm office in baltimore.
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she works as a volunteer in many different places. she represents casa and the school board commission. she has been a member of teh leadership board. all of that organizing the youth and the community that is one of our heroes that i want you to hear from her. the second person i want to introduce to you is my coworker, fatima morena. she and her family emigrated from el salvador when she and her siblings were young. she and her brother and sister are all daca holders. she studied political science at montgomery college.
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she is an extraordinary organizer. i want to welcome both of you, and thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you for having me today and allowing me the space and time to share my story. as the congressman said, it is our stories that really educate the rest of the community and the population about what it means to go through life as an undocumented immigrant. i was brought here to maryland at the age of two, and i will have my 20 year anniversary of living in the states in september of this year. my parents were both young, they had me when they were 18, so this was the land for opportunity. the reason they came here was to be able to provide myself a
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better opportunity than they were able to in chile. i am very thankful they make -- maybe that courageous decision to leave everything behind and to come to a country they don't know and they don't know the language, just with the clothes they had on their back and what they could pack in their bags. they became part of the community, they taught us morals and ethics to work hard in school and get a higher education, to treat others as you want to be treated. to help those who need it. that's what has instilled in me to become the woman i am today. i grew up in anne arundel county where there were many at the time there were not many , undocumented immigrants. i felt very alone. i did not know of other students who were going through the same
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situation and the same issues that i was facing. aydin i know someone who had to live their day wondering whether their parents were coming home tonight and thinking and wondering whether they were actually going to be able to achieve all their dreams. our wonderful schoolteachers instill in me if you work hard enough and you try hard enough you can reach anything. but the reality of the situation is being undocumented, especially back and then when we do not have daca, it was a very faraway dream. if your parents did not have sufficient money, there was no dream act, there was no maryland dream act back then, it was not a reality. like i said, i felt very alone. i found casa and started volunteering when i was in high school. i slowly started to realize that there were other people in
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this state and communities were going through what i was. i've used that fear and that frustration to fuel the fight. i was not going to stay home and keep of being frustrated and crying about what i couldn't achieve, but it was the time to make things change. it was the time to stand up and let the u.s. government know, hey, we are here. we want to contribute. we want to get a better education and what to give back to the community we grew up in. we are just as american as any other student and neighbor. maryland dream act passed and i attempted to go to college. i went to umbc. i was double majoring in biology a political science. -- and political science. unfortunately to financial struggles, i was unable to keep
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attending. i didn't let that stop me. i decided if i cannot start my career with education, i would start my career somewhere else. i met my future employer at a casa events volunteering. i'm thankful i met this wonderful gentleman. he is very supportive of the immigrant community. employeet have a daca at the time but he said even if left to go through hoops or fight them to get your licensing and setting everything up we , will get you working here. he took a step further and send -- and said we will make sure we offer the same opportunities to other daca recipients. these students who have worked so hard and get this chance to get employment in the chest to bid themselves, we will open it these doors for them and that's what he did. i want to thank anybody in the community who has done that also. you have given us the
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opportunity and that is what we needed. we had a dream we couldn't reach, and daca opens all these doors. we could reach further education, we could get employee -- employment. we could start a career and help our families and contribute to our community, which is the biggest thing we all really want. we want to show we are true contributions to our community. thankfully, that has kept me going until now. unfortunately, we see these attacks now. we're fearful again. we see our families being deported and we see our neighbors been deported. i have to check in with my mother and let her know, no i didn't get pulled over on my way home today, i am just running a little late. i am going through the daca renewal process currently. we don't know what is going to happen. we don't know september 5 means whoever didn't get to renew in time, oh well.
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those who did luckily enough get two more years. we need to come up with a solution. whether it means we keep daca as it is now wanted a solution or work for a solution a little further head or whether we use this pressure and these attacks to make sure we get a permanent solution for our daca recipients and families. we cannot forget about our families. we recipients are very vocal, and we are kind of the poster board of the immigration movement. let us not forget the one to make the true, courageous decision, our parents who brought us here and left everything behind. thank you for letting me share my story and my sentiment a views of daca. [applause] >> now, fatima, before you go, you mentioned the dream act passed by the maryland legislature and that was also
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voted upon by the people. the majority of people said yes, that is what we want to do. so the people have spoken on , this issue. >> thank you very much. fatima, please. fatima: hello, everyone. i want to start by thanking you for being such a great champion in introducing the hope act. rep. hoyer: she is also a political science major. fatima: this legislation is giving us hope. i immigrated to the united states in 2007. i graduated from high school and became involved in the movement in 2012. that was when i was facing a dead-end and didn't know what to do or what my options were. higher education was not an option for me.
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casa was working in this i found that campaign cause of the maryland dream act. -- called the maryland dream act. that is when i became involved with casa and the work casa was doing at that time. thanks to the maryland dream act my siblings and i were able to , continue with school. to community go college and continue with my education. , in my house, my siblings and i, all three of us have daca. if daca -- rep. hoyer: they are younger than you are? fatima: they are younger. this is letting us contribute to this country and to help our parents pay rent.
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yet that's it. ,>> thank you very much. i know we have additional dreamers right over here. i want to know if you want to make any comments before we move on. go ahead. >> you were 13 when you came here? >> 13. >> and you are going to montgomery junior college now? >> and yes. >> good. >> and your brothers, sisters, b -- both? >> my sister is at montgomery college with me right now. she's a little younger? >> yes she is 20. , my brother is 18. rep. hoyer: is he in high school? >> he graduated. rep. hoyer: and all of your protected right now by daca? >> the three of us are all protected by daca. rep. hoyer: thank you.
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>> please, by all means, say your name. say your name one more time. >> roger figueroa. [inaudible] i graduated from the public schools and i am finishing up community college and finishing up on my last year at the university of maryland in business administration with a minor in psychology. daca has allowed me to pursue and further myself and my education to obtain a job in the field that i can actually get back and help those just like myself who came with the dream that have many dreams. those who have the potential to do great things in this community. i can identify with a lot of the youth i work with. it is a great reward.
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with organization i am currently with, it taught me a lot about it is a great reward seeing the impact we are doing. as a daca recipient, it taught me a lot and helped me grow as a professional and as a person. daca is what allowed me to experience many opportunities to further my education and i know i'm not going to be done with just a bachelors. i want to pursue a masters and maybe even a doctorate. i went to continue helping others because i think that is my purpose in life is to help others and see what we can do to better our communities and better society because that is what we are here for. hoyer: were you working before representative daca? >> no. work permitst daca
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as soon as i graduated high school. it came just in time because after high school, possibly i might have taken one or two courses at community college if i had the financial support that -- but even with daca, there have been so many challenges because education is expensive. >> a lot. [laughter] >> a little. it is expensive and many daca recipients, we have to work twice as hard. there are very limited options for us, scholarships and all of that, and we have to find that one scholarship that will allow us to apply without any federal funding. it's twice as hard but i know the reward is bigger for us because we have to work twice as hard and at the end of the tunnel, there is going to be light there.
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>> thank you very much. do some of you want to share? tell us your name again. america yohe latin uth committee. i want to thank you for sharing your stories. i'm a true believer that telling stories is the best way to get to peoples hearts. i'm definitely an advocate to share my story, especially with my family. it came to the point where my dad wanted to put gas in the car the middle of the night and i took his key and i went and i was carrying my work permit with me at all times because it's such a serious situation where anything could happen. i remember at a point where i thought daca would keep me safe. right now, it is not even security. but we have to work twice as hard and that's something i'm familiar with. when i started college, i was undocumented at the time.
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rep. hoyer: when did you start college? >> like montgomery college as well. i started in the spring of 2010. i was working about 50 hours a week, earning about $350 a week and i needed to support my family. and also support myself, so when daca came in, my biggest excitement was having a driver's license. i could finally have a drivers permit and not have to justify why i did not drive. it was such a privilege and not being able to not have an id, it was a huge thing, especially, even applying for college with a -- was a problem because i couldn't do it online because i did not have a social your number. i had to explain my story and i'm undocumented and having
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found that identity was really hard. i know even after i had daca, it was hard to assimilate to the idea that i was somewhat documented. i remember driving through university boulevard and just having a police car behind me thinking i'm going to get pulled over and i'm like, oh, yeah, i have a drivers license. and it was so internalized to be undocumented for me. three out of four of us have daca right now. all three of us are in college for -- all three of us are in college. if i know of a scholarship, i will let you know. and if somebody else knows,
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please let me know. thank you. rep. hoyer: what was your last name? >> sandoval. >> thank you very much for sharing. [applause] >> anybody else wants to share? >> [inaudible]
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>> you are a new yorker and we let you come down here? [laughter] >> i'm a new yorker myself. >> [inaudible] let's get on this journey and see what happens. [inaudible]
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this group of young adults was educated not just in the literal sense but internally, they felt their concerns, they felt their struggles and these folks like they were home. it was extraordinary to have daca. i'm sure i will still make it. we are the top 10% in the nation. [indiscernible] [applause]
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>> now we want to share with you about two extraordinary young leaders. two weeks ago, they were deported and i think that is important that you know who were those extraordinary and talented leaders in our community and i want to invite heather. heather was the teacher and she's going to describe more about it. please go ahead. , >> first of all, i want to thank you for inviting me to represent my students. of course, i would rather my students be here to represent themselves and it is in the unfortunate circumstance that they can't. i would like to thank people for jumping to their aid and i see
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people for river road, the church. the community outreach has been incredible and when the community responds that likely, it's because the community has been deeply impacted. i can describe it as nothing more than despairing at the deportation of these two we loved so much. for those who may not know diego he came to the united states in , 2009. as children, they were fleeing violence and economic instability in their native el salvador. at that time both of them were , under the age of 15. these two boys, i met them in gaithersburg, maryland. you would quickly know who they are because they are always in soccer uniforms. even though they are very good soccer players, it's very uncommon they will join the school team because they are a little overwhelmed by that idea. they quickly adapted to their community and established a wide
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circle of friends, including the elite that does the soccer club. so we think about the esl going into the mainstream, these are ways that hopped on buses immediately after school and with young people who are quite different from them in many different ways. that's exemplary of their character. they sought out their dreams and worked hard towards of them. they would just shy of eligible to four daca saw the heck -- for daca so they had no other route of relief. they complied with all of their check-in then did all that i asked of them one of them was awarded a scholarship based on his performance in soccer. that is what motivated their
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father to take them in because they wanted to take the address. his brother wanted to accompany his brother to support him through that change. it was at that time that the boys were detained and expeditiously deported within five days and that came as a shock to the community because not only at the local level to state and national level, there's an extreme amount of pushback and we are all shocked and startled they would have done to not only these two boys in particular but that our voices were utterly ignored. i was diego's esl -- es ol teacher. if i had to describe him in one word, it would be committed. excuse me. [crying] diego would often show up in his soccer gear.
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he would come in and tell us how the team was doing engaging other english-language learners in the community. when he was not in his soccer uniform, he was like a young little man. he was such a gentleman. his typical outfit was like a button-down polo and nice khaki slacks and he was a gentleman. he was focused and hard-working. he made it to school and it is terribly difficult to graduate from a maryland high school and achieve everything in a short amount of time in terms of language proficiency and content proficiency and he did it. he had positive relationships with the administration, in the community and with teachers and his friends. alejandro was not my students. he was a contributor to our esol literary magazine. i spoke with his ap and his teacher said i loved this young man.
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i taught him in ap literature and i was constantly impressed by his kindness, compassion, work ethic and maturity. he takes personal responsibility and is only a positive thing for our country and community and is a good egg through and through. i believe as most of you can , tell, these brothers exemplified everything we look for as new americans, the tenacity to overcome great difficulty, their work ethic and commitment, and a propulsion toward an american dream for as -- american dream. as the sister said as the boys , were being detained, she said please just let my brother live their american dream. for these brothers and immigrant children seeking their american dream, congressman hoyer we , would appreciate your continued support of both pieces of legislation. the 2017 dream act and american
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hope act. thank you. [applause] rep. hoyer: thank you very much everybody who spoke. i'm sure there are an awful lot that have shed it will be shed if we don't have a policy that is consistent, i want to remind people of the -- it passed 62 to 98 that that those were not authorized to be here and we were going to make sure there is a pathway to citizen ship and there were some conditions. first of all, there was not as some people said, amnesty. you had to pay a fine and there was a penalty. you had to not be somebody who has done wrong, criminal offense or something else, a serious
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criminal offense. and you had to have a substantial time to achieve this past way. daca was consistent with that piece of legislation. it is not as if president obama acted unilaterally. he acted consistent with the premise, bipartisan bill, 14 republicans voted for it that said we are going to have a pathway to assimilate those who have come to this country and are positive members of our society. very frankly, if you come here and commit crime, the american people want to say that are already here, we don't want people coming here committing crimes. nobody is arguing to not deal with those who commit crimes in
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our country. but what we are arguing and will , continue to argue and we will try to make sure we continue the policy the united states senate adopted and in my opinion, i'm the whip in the house of representatives which means i , count votes. that's my job. and my judgment is when the senate passed its bill, had we put it on the floor over those next 18 months, it would have had a majority of votes in the house of representatives. this is not suggest my opinion. ' opinion. it is the opinion of the united states senate overwhelming majority and in my opinion, the majority of the members of the house of representatives.
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on daca, we are going to do everything we can to ensure a a rational continuation of daca. so important to our communities and so important to all of you. [applause] we want to make sure those with temporary protected status who obtained that status are not threatened by adverse actions. [applause] and, again, as all of us expect, to be treated fairly if in fact we follow the laws of our country, our community, of our state and local municipalities. it is so important for us not to have people like these two brothers who came here from el
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salvador, judged to be as maybe some of you know from personal experience, but i know from reading the data, one of the most dangerous countries in the world. i have three daughters. i have three grandchildren. i have four great grandchildren. if i lived in the most dangerous place in the world and they were at risk if they went out the door -- we saw a young -- unfortunately, we have that, we saw a 17-year-old that just died as a result of a bullet that hit her that was not meant for her simply because there were dangers in the community. that's a small amount of danger when you compare it to some of the countries from which people come. i talked about refuge, i talked about the lamp being lifted
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beside the golden door, initially, the president, when he was campaigning said 11 million, 12 million, i don't think we know these that number but we are going to have all of , them leave the country. if all of them left the country, it would make a very, very substantial adverse effect on the economy of our country. not to mention the humanitarian disaster that it would affect. now, he is pursuing, as you know, a very vigorous deportation policy. the brothers, apparently, were in the shortest time the lawyer had seen in terms of a deportation, which means we did not get consideration. intimate it was just formulaic, just a formula.
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-- it meant it was just formulaic, just a formula. you haven't done this, you haven't been that, out. here's a young man getting a scholarship to university of north carolina. maybe he could not get into the university of maryland, but the university of north carolina is an excellent educational institution and he gets a scholarship to play soccer. but he would not have gotten the , the scholarship if he was not academically qualified. he was academically qualified. then, his brother summarily kicked out of the country. to a country -- i don't know how old they were when they came. >> they were both under 15. i believe aleajandro is 19 and
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diego is 22. rep. hoyer: they were assimilated and one of them got a scholarship and ms. bradley speaks to their character and conduct. i want all of you to know that gutierrezrd luis speak i don't know anyone who , speaks with more passion or knowledge than he does. the whole hispanic caucus -- i grew up and graduated from high school before any of you were born, probably -- maybe not any of you, but in 1957 here in prince george's county and i went to the university of maryland. that was the civil rights movement in our country. we have had a tragic confrontation in charlottesville over the last 72, 96 hours. our president, in my view, did not respond effectively or
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appropriately to hate groups, people who sympathize and hold a swastika up, showing support of nazi policies which were the most horrific in my lifetime. not the only horrific actions, but some of the most. people who want to have us hate one another because of some difference -- i grew up at a time when martin luther king said it was the content of character, not the color of skin, the gender, sexual orientation, not any of that, but the character. ms. bradley, you spoke to the character of this young man and his brother. and you spoke eloquently about wanting people to help your country. you came at the age of2 and you
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know of no other country. i'm sure you speak spanish and probably speak it fluently. the fact of the matter is it is your country. you to know as your representative, i do not know if i represent you, yeah, you probably have john sarbanes as your congressman, but i can guarantee he will be there as well with us in fighting to make sure we follow in policy that is good for america and good for all of the people for whom you advocate. >> i know other people are going to have questions for you, so i want to open up the floor because i know some of you have some questions. do you want to ask any questions of the congressman? >> i work for prince george's county public schools. we are supporters of all of our students including our immigrant
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, and undocumented students following federal law. we just want to make sure in a congress level and the senate that you will continue to protect civil rights laws and legislation as they stand. we are very concerned about any retaliation taken against public institutions for following the federal law and policies and i was wondering if you had any thoughts on that. rep. hoyer: i think the proposals we have seen largely around sanctuary cities or other organizations that are churches, we see churches saying we are going to be a sanctuary for those four at risk and need help. they have very negative policies and very frankly i think those , policies will not be enacted into law because i think there are enough members who oppose
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those policies, including some republicans. it is not just democrats. some republicans who believe it policies and when we talk about sanctuary cities and you know, we passed the violence against women act and one of the provisions extended it to undocumented so everyone was included. when the bill came to the floor, it did not include those protections. finally, we got protections for everybody. why do you want protections for everybody? the person who is abused, who is afraid to come forward means that the abuser will not be held accountable or prevented from abusing others.
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the answer to your question is we are going to be very vigorous and trying to ensure we don't penalize cities, states school , systems, other organizations for protecting people who they believe are in need of protection. >> thank you very much. any additional questions? anybody? rep. hoyer: i want to make sure all of you get the point of the example i gave. the protection is, yes, to the person who is abused but the , reason law enforcement is for -- it is so people will be willing to come forward and lodge a complaint. in a this is instance, so people won't have to hide under a table
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or a rug we talk about sweeping , things under the rug. we don't want people to have to do that. we do not want -- who was the young lady you talked about driving down and seeing the police car? we all get a little nervous when the police car is in back of us, but then you say i have a license. franklin, when people are -- frankly when people are , nervous, people are scared, they are not productive and they do things we don't want them to do. so it is counterproductive. ,>> thank you. i do have a question. is it ok? >> he asks tough questions. should i say it's ok or not? i am taking a risk. >> i promise. you know right now you said in , the 2019 budget, for this administration is requesting billions of dollars for immigration enforcement as well as to build the wall to say
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youall and we want to ask to make sure you can take the lead to make sure you are going to support and ask our congress persons in the senate to oppose the wasting of money on that. so that's the question. mr. hoyer: not only am i going to do it, but we have been doing it. when we did the 2017 appropriations bill, as you know, there were some at very high levels who wanted to put money to build a wall in their. many of his security people who were in charge of security in his administration, i won't mention his name, say the wall will not work. so, from a practical matter, spending billions of dollars doesn't make sense. the answer to your question is we made sure that did not happen and we are going to fight it
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again. we just passed a defense authorization bill -- excuse me appropriation bill , which may take some money out of the defense department to put into a wall. i don't think that will pass the united states senate. every democrat voted no. every democrat voted no. we are going to continue to do that. in terms of -- i want to redirect so you are not , -- i want to reiterate, so you're not confuse, and i know you are not, security at our borders is something all of us want to make sure happens, particularly in a time of terrorists. we had domestic terrorism in charlottesville, the young man was apparently from ohio. but, the fact of the matter is we want to make sure we don't , have terrorists coming to our country, so we need to secure the border.
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americans want security at the border. all of us want security at the border. but, having said that, frankly, what president obama said and i agree, the enforcement agency is ice, but the enforcement agencies need to concentrate on people who are breaking our laws and spend our resources on those who are putting our property and persons at risk. not people who are working, going to school or participating constructively in our communities. i will continue to pursue those kinds of policies so we spend money on the important and make sure we spend money where it will make us safer, not diminish our communities. >> thank you very much. final question before the closing remarks? go ahead.
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>> imed the senior legal manager here and i represent? and a -- alejandrod diego and when they were deported. and i was there when they were taken into custody. i grew up in maryland. rep. hoyer: what he means is i have been in office for long time. [laughter] >> i appreciate your leadership which i think is important. what we are seeing, this is often your last comment, is all discretion by ice is wrong and they are telling us these folks, these are mothers, these are children, there's nothing we can do for them. i understand we are fighting for legislation, but that's not going to happen in the near future with president trump in office.
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what we do now to keep those families together? and how do we protect the various, different family members who have different documentation, including eps? there are members of the family that have that in many -- and many casa members. how do we force them to go back to having some kind of priority status as we had under the obama administration? thank you. rep. hoyer: i think this is one way to do it because stories matter. one of you said that. stories matter and when you talk about things in gross about policy, millions of people, so than the other people say ok. luis ortalk about lucile or jose, or the two
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brothers, that really grabs people. we don't have the votes, that is the problem. they can't change law because we have 48 members of the senate and they need 60 votes except in a reconciliation. they can do that and limited. that will need 60 votes. unfortunately, much of this is not law as we know it with regulation. the republicans complained bitterly that obama had exceeded his authority and djs now observes, you know the law much better than i do on this, they don't believe the law will hold up. we will see, i suppose. hopefully, maybe we will not see and maybe they will not pursue it, but the fact is when you say what can we do, what we can do is have the american people much
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more cognizant of the adverse impact of the policy the trump administration is pursuing or having all these two brothers and that is a good example. positive good kids doing well , who would be a positive contribution to our country. my father came here from denmark. now he was not young. , he was 32 and he came here in 1934, so i'm a first generation american on my father's side, not on my mother's side. but america, nobel prize winners, 40% of them born overseas. four out of every 10 nobel prize winners in the united states of america were born someplace other than the united states of america. america has been constantly
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enriched by those who have come to this land. why do they come here? for opportunity, for safety, because they cared about their families. that's why most people come here. not everybody. some came in voluntarily and that was wrong. but the fact is most people came here to participate positively in enriching their lives and the lives of the communities in which they live. and those stories can make a difference. >> i want to say thank you for joining us in this conversation but before we leave, i want to , extend an invitation to all of you and that is how we can make a difference. tomorrow, 11:30 a.m. -- i am sorry, i want to make sure you are paying attention. tomorrow, we will be in front of the white house.
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hundreds of dreamers and people anniversary, in the of daca, so congressmen get -- will join us and many other leaders are going to join us. we need to invite you officially but please join us at 11:30 a.m. it's very important to send a very strong message to the administration that we are going to keep fighting because we want to mention that daca stays. again on behalf of casa, thank , you so much for joining us. rep hoyer: can i just echo what gustavo has said? showing up in speaking of is quickly important. bewhat that does is it will a collective story because you will have a lot of daca and others there. a reporter is going to talk to
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some individual will what is your story ? and they are going to put that on television and somebody says gee whiz, we ought not to do that. that's how democracy works. i want to join estoppel -- gustavo, the stories are important. but when you have large numbers of people, you recall on the 21st of january how many people showed up at the women's march in washington, d.c. as you can tell, i'm not a woman and there were a lot of men there. millions. as you can see, the president became so defensive, more than were at the inauguration. amazing and it made a difference. it energized people and we need to keep people energized, focused and showing up. thank you so much for all you do. [applause] >> every month book tv on
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