board. and if 9:00, myesha braden of the lawyers committee for civil rights under law. she will look at the reinstatement of a law allowing for the transfer of military equipment to civilian law enforcement. host: good morning. the top headline on today's "washington journal," is the on dacadecision implemented under the obama administration. several news organizations reported yesterday that president trump will reverse the order, which is granted a hundred thousand so-called dreamers brought into the country as children by their parents the ability to attend school or work.

today we are asking our viewers what should happen to daca recipients. democrats can call (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. independents (202) 748-8002. we also have a line for daca recipients, (202) 748-8003. you can reach us on social media, on twitter, and on facebook. more on the plans by the president, fox news reporting yesterday president trump is already made his decision to rescind the daca order. it says as early as friday he is expected to announce plans to rescind the deportation program that gave reprieve to hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants.

reverse dacad to during the campaign. he is expected to announce the program's end but will allow current dreamers to stay in the program until their current permits expire, which could be as long as two years. we are asking our viewers what do you think should happen to people who are recipients of this program? let's take a look at what president trump said about the program in february. [video clip] program, what is your plan? >> we will show great heart. it is a very difficult subject. it is one of the most difficult subjects for me. you have these incredible kids, cases, cases, not in all

in some cases they are gang members, but you have these incredible kids that were brought here in such a way, it is a very tough subject. we have to deal with daca with heart. i have to convince a lot of politicians that what i am saying is right. i appreciate your understanding of that. the daca situation is a very because ithing for me love these kids. i love kids. i have kids and grandkids. i find it very hard doing what the law says exactly today. the law is right. i'm not talking that new laws. existing law is rough. allen is on our line from brooklyn. guest: i appreciate this rare instance of the president

showing genuine family-based compassion for others. that is where all compassion comes from. your own experience makes you realize other people have feelings as you do. i respect that. it is a rare instance of him showing that kind of feeling. i ask myself if he can express that kind of compassion about the well-being of his grandchildren and other grandchildren here, what has gone wrong with his understanding on the effect of climate change on his grandchildren and future generations? host: what do you thinkhost: should happen to the roughly 800,000 people who were brought here from the ages of infancy to 16 by their parents? what you think should happen to them? caller: i think from the tenor of my comments, i cannot imagine harming children in a certain

sense that is not of their own making. in the terms of affecting children who have had nothing to do with creating climate change but will suffer because their lifetimes will extend into the next century. host: we're taking calls about the presence pending session on -- decision on daca. anita. us now is good morning. caller: good morning. host: tell us about what daca is. guest: this is something president obama did five years ago unilaterally. we got a lot of criticism about it. he said if you are a dreamer, a young person who came into the country as a child illegally, you would allow you to stay and

get work permits. you could apply for a two-year work permit to stay in the country and work. as you mentioned, about 800,000 young people have done that. there are more eligible. these are the people that are enrolled in the program now. host: what is your latest reporting? there are a couple of news reports that the president has already made up his mind. yesterday sarah huckabee sanders said that is not the case. guest: we had a story yesterday afternoon that showed he is expected, it is hard to say exactly what he is going to do because he changes his mind a lot, but he is expected to end the program. once he would do is the folks that are enrolled in the program now would let their work permits run out. as an example, if you got your permit a year ago, you have a

year left. you would not be eligible to get another permit. he would not renew them and he would not allow new permits. he is ending the program, but he is not rescinding permits for those that have them. i am surprised that is the route they would go. it would be hard to rescind 800,000 permits. by the time you do that, the two years would run out. host: talk about the timing of this order. why might this be happening now? guest: there is a deadline, a kind of deadline next tuesday, september 5. 10 states, led by texas, has said if the president does not end the program by tuesday they sue the federal

government and say this program is unconstitutional. it is a deadline the states imposed. the president could not do anything by that time and let it go and let it go to the courts. he is going to act. we are hearing he is going to act. he cannot make up his mind. he is going back and forth right up to this deadline. host: thank you so much for joining us today. guest: thank you. host: we are asking our viewers, what should happen to daca recipients? democrats can call (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. independents (202) 748-8002. if you are a participant in the daca program, call (202) 748-8003. line, republican line. caller: this happened to my mother-in-law. she was born in brooklyn.

her parents were from newfoundland. from 1934, people who are not american citizens were asked to leave the country even if there native born children did not count as anchor babies back then. she had to go back to newfoundland and was unable to get back into the country until world war ii. there is precedent in our history for having these people removed from the country. at this point, if you graduate from high school, you should at least be able to become a citizen. they should check your immigration status and give you some sort of pathway to becoming part of america on a legal basis. this is just creating a lot of confusion and bad blood in this country.

obama did this by executive order instead of allowing the congress to deal with it. senator rubio did have a bill, and for political reasons i think obama did not want that bill to become a law. i think something is going to have to be done. it may not be what a lot of people want. these people are here. they do not have roots anyplace else. there will have to be some type of compromise on the situation. givinghe hill reporting the reaction of the vice presidents, saying vice president pence expects the president to have a big heart with his decision. he says president trump is mulling action, allowing dreamers to stay. president trump has said all along he is giving careful consideration to that issue, and what he makes his decision, he

will make it with big heart, and he told abc news. texas amidting relief efforts in the aftermath .f hurricane harvey good morning on our democratic line. caller: good morning. how are you? host: i am good. what do you think about these daca recipients? of sympathyve a lot and empathy to these recipients. however, we have lost. if you're in the u.s. illegally, you need to leave. during the time this program has been in existence, my question is have any of these applied for citizenship? i recognize this is a long task. i do think they should have applied or be in the process of

applying for citizenship. host: if this order is rescinded, what happens? did not put them on the path to citizenship. it allows them to go to school or go to work. schoolires them to go to , via graduate, or go to work to be in the program. what would happen? caller: they would have to self-deport. host: ok. right from california -- greg from california on our republican line. what do you think? ander: as a grandparent, many american, talking about shoulds, president rescind daca and not allow the

fact that i don't think a person who is not a citizen should jump in front of the line of an american citizen. a lot of people like to talk about what about these poor wildren wear their parents -- here their parents stole them into the country or committed burglary into the country. i'm talking about the american upminal parents who end going to prison and their kids are left behind, deprived of all the goodies a parent can bring. no. what we need to do is in or so law -- enforce the law. just because their parents stole country, we need to see if their parents have any kind of wealth, confiscate that, and allow them to get a plane

ticket to go back to their home country. host: data from the migration policy center about where these daca recipients are. eligible population throughout the country are mostly settled in the southern states, places like california, texas, florida, and elsewhere. it shows the top country of origin for the daca eligible population is by far mexico. other countries include what mama, korea, el salvador -- guatemala, korea, el salvador. what do you think should happen to daca recipients? caller: i think president trump should have a big part and challenge -- heart and challenge these attorney general's who are

suing. many of these folks are refugees. they were fleeing gang vio lence.these parents came wanting a better life for their children. in the yuan, we have an international treaty that recognizes the right -- the u .n., we have an international treaty that recognizes the right or migration. we need to remember we are a nation of immigrants. what about the argument that allowing this program to stay in place only encourages people to try to bring young kids into the u.s., thinking this gives them a better foothold into the country. put a sunset on stoppingplained we are taking anybody else. many people are afraid to enroll

now because now i.c.e. will know where you are at. i spent many years as a pastor working with youth. if you don't give those kids hope, many of those kids will end up working in gangs. the blowback you will get from daca will be totally contrary to the argument they are making. host: today's washington journal says the success of the daca program could lead to its demise. it says the deferred action for childhood arrivals program has been a success. polls show widespread public support for the dreamers. while those in the workforce have seen their wages rise from average of $10 an hour to $17 an

hour according to the center for american progress. there's just one problem, the program was never meant to be permanent. that could lead to its undoing. in on our calling republican line. hi. caller: hi, how are you? host: i am good. caller: i agree with the woman from north carolina that we do have laws in this country. i was a teacher in new york. we have a lot of students that were in daca. even before daca, there was a lot of illegal students we knew because they were coded differently with not an accurate social security number. before daca, i think this has been a major strain on the back

of tax payers because the people can apply for welfare and get housing subsidies. now with daca, they are getting their education, and that is ok, but what i have found is even with an education, students and their families are not assimilating. they are not becoming an american citizens. they do not apply for american citizenship. we are a country of immigrants. when mike family -- when my family came from italy and the middle east, we had to have sponsors. someone had to be accountable for us so we were not a drain on the government, that we had a job, that we had family we were staying with. until my grandparents could get on their feet, and they had to

learn english. it was not a choice. they learned it on their own. i just feel that we are giving a lot of help that are breaking our laws. know, i can see president trump wavering. small, they doso not know. when they get older, they do know that this is wrong, but they still do not go for citizenship. people say if they are educated they might not become a gang member, but that is also not really true. if someone wants to do something, they are going to do it. i just feel this has been an extra strain on our government. host: ok. says that thecnbc

u.s. gdp would take a hit if daca recipients are deported. it says the u.s. economy would take a multimillion dollar hit if the trump administration decides to end the deferred action for childhood arrivals program. the latest research comes from pro-immigration reform group cofounded by mark zuckerberg found that 91% of daca recipients are employed. research falls a study earlier by the center for american progress that estimated the loss of daca workers would reduce the u.s. gross domestic billion over the

next 10 years. arizonas coming in from on our independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you? host: i am good. would you think about these daca recipients? caller: i think the president should just allow it to expire. if they came here illegally, and their parents just made them an accessory to their crime, apparently whatever country they are from did not kill the parents. they survived. if they go back, they will survive. host: george is calling in from tennessee on our republican line. what do you think? caller: what i think doesn't matter much in the scheme of things, but the key word is deferred.

deferment is over. in the 1970's, you had deferment on the draft. when college was over, your deferment was over. set, childrenolor suffer all the time for the things their parents did. unless that donald trump has to clean up from what obama done. here we are. don't blame donald trump. blame obama. host: what do you think should happen with these 800,000 people that are enrolled in school or working now that are part of the 11 million reported undocumented immigrants in the country? is it feasible to deport them all? caller: as far as what is going to happen to them is something that is going to have to be figured out.

deferred action, it was the first by the present, and now this president -- by the president, and now this president the deferment is over. life isn't always fair, but it i s not something the american citizen did to them or anyone as. played god, and i never movie, but maybe the church can take care of them, but the american taxpayer cannot keep on taking care of them. it is not fair to them. host: ok. there could be legislative action on these daca recipients. the hill reported that a house republican says he will childrenvote to shield

who came here illegally as children from deportation. coloradoman from announced he will file a discharge petition next week when the chamber returns to session. the move is more striking given that discharge petitions are usually a tool used by the house minority party. congressman coffman tweeted about this, saying he has introduced the bridge act to protect daca recipients. here,ecipients grew up went to school here, and should be allowed to stay here. the time has come to take action. on twitter, reaction to the news that the president may rescind daca.

harold from brooklyn on our republican line. caller: good morning. mr. obama left a pretty large instituted this unconstitutional mess. i am an african american male. there are a lot of young black males that are not working. i believe the unemployment rate in chicago for young blackmails is 75%. we need to take care of americans first and especially young black americans. i'm willing to bet if those men were not working, you would not have half the homicides. if you can here illegally, your parents brought you here, you are an accessory to a crime. i feel sorry for them, but they have been a burden on the taxpayer. i am tired of paying for people. my concern is nobody talks about the afghan american male

anymore. the unemployment rate for black men in this country is astronomically. winnie to worry about that. -- we need to worry about that. host: marianne on our democratic line. good morning. caller: good morning. i think the united states makenment needs to immigrating to the united states should but they enforce that law. i mean, we are supposed to be a , and if people can cross the border at will, which is that teach them about america? that they can do anything they

want if they can get away with it? andamily came here in 1690 i think for the most part they are law-abiding. i have done my genealogy. they were all farmers. farmers.arents were the immigration laws are too difficult, so they should be made easier, but they should insist that people who come here do it legally. host: what should happen to these 800,000 people who are working and are in school now? what should happen to them? caller: um. if they were brought here as children, they were brought here against their will, technically.

i think they should be allowed to stay, and they will have to let the parents stay, too. family units are much more law-abiding, but no more. no more. think, i don't think it is fair that anyone can cross the border, especially from the south and get away with it. host: ok. mark is calling in from california on our independent line. what do you think? caller: i think president trump needs to be censored. i don't think he should be passing any legislation until he gets his legal problems worked out. everybody's talking about we are a nation of laws. went and trump just

he violatedaio, and the constitution. if the president is supposed to be a folding the constitution, ing thephold constitution, and he is not doing that by pardoning arpaio. daca is a program that works. it is statistically proven that it is working. we are a nation of immigrants. these people should be able to have a chance to come to this country and make something of themselves. we are the only place on the planet that people can escape oppression. that is the only thing i have to say. in today's usa today on the opinion page, it says that

they can as kids, let them kids, let themas pursue the american dream. he knows little about the country it would be sent to if the trump administration begins deporting folks like him. he says, i wouldn't even know how to get around mexico right now. i have no sense of how things work there. to 800,000s similar tremors, immigrants who have come of age in set down roots after being brought here illegally as children. tommy on our democrat line. caller: good morning. i would like to make some comments about the daca. it is sad that these people have worked and help jobs. if they are employed in productive citizens, i think

they should be left alone. not only that, in texas right now, i just heard on the weather channel that donald trump was trying to attach some kind of something to federal aid for funds before they release federal funds. they are playing games. as everything, donald trump does and doesgrandstanding is big blast to get the attention off of something. he changes the subject. host: let me keep you on the subject of these daca recipients. what do you think should happen to them? they are in the country. do you think they should be deported? caller: no, definitely not deported. i think they should be given a

special car that they have been -- card that they have been here and should have some rights to go to college and if they have a job to keep their job. host: al is calling in from maryland on our republican line. what do you think? caller: good morning. to address those most recent trump -- donald president trump himself out of his personal funds gave up $1 million. i would reach out to anyone else that wants to criticize his performance to make their own donation. with regards to the daca recipients, i hear a lot about readjusting the laws and then enforcing those laws. the fact is that under the obama

administration, we bent the laws to allow these people in our country under specific conditions. now it is time to enforce the laws. host: what should happen to these kids? caller: their situations should be reviewed to see if there still a threat for them returning to their country for retaliation on their families, and for the ones that there i sn't any adverse reaction to them returning to their country, they should be returned to their country according to the laws we made when we enacted the daca rule. congressmanpublican before news reports that they president might rescind daca,

says he believes daca recipients should turn their parents in. congressman steve king of iowa says he appeals to young daca recipients to turn their parents into law enforcement. he says if it was against their will, it is their parents that are responsible. saying, i'm still waiting for the first daca recipient that says so and signs an affidavit saying i did not do this of my enforcerd, they should the law on their parents, give me amnesty. he said that earlier this week on cnn. our independent line. what do you think should happen to daca recipients? caller: i agree that they should have their cases reviewed.

i don't think we should have any immediate deportation. e lot is dependent on are th still in school? i hear a lot about how they are not assimilating to our society. i think that is patently false. i think these unfair for people to say they feel a certain way. where are the hard numbers on this? people say they feel they are spending too much money on this, but they are ok with spending money on taxes that goes to foreign wars, lining the pockets of rich people. i think it is unfair for people to immediately jump on these children, and say even if they are not children now, but they are young adults functioning as part of our society, and say they are accomplices. they are children. it is unfair to put this on

them. host: morgan calling in from our democrat line. caller: i think they should leave the program as it is. these people are going to school. they are working. they are contributing to this country. to tear families apart like that is unbelievable. note, i would love to see them rounding up these illegal eastern europeans and western europeans and irish people here illegally that are committing hate crimes and involved in gangs. i would love to see that happen. host: a little from vox that put out a piece on dreamers, nine fax that explain daca.

valedictorians, but they are integrated into the u.s., one reason it has been politically popular even when it has been difficult to legalize other unauthorized immigrants. the stereotype has been pushed on both sides of violence since the early days of a stance that much of the media took throughout the 2000s. on a whole, they are more diverse unless exceptional than the stereotype of success suggests, and the cliche of the dreamer valedictorian can obscure how hard it is to succeed without legal status in the u.s. to have graduated from high

be an or have a ged or honorably discharged veteran. jason from virginia is on our republican line. hi there. caller: thank you, c-span. i don't think these daca recipients should be penalized for being here. i think we, as a nation, have created loopholes. like all of the illegal immigrants, you cannot just deport everybody. if they are productive members of society, they should be allowed to stay. i think it should be done so with the caveat that if you want to not be deported, you should enroll for citizenship. if you neglect to do that, you are responsible for your

position in the u.s. and you face possible deportation if you are arrested. host: given the logistics, an estimated 11 million people in the country illegally. focusing onnt is people who committed crimes, but removing the ability of dreamers tow work, knowing they will probably not be immediately deported, one that create a problem, logjam of people here that cannot work but they are not being deported? caller: i think it does create a problem. i think as a society we have to decide which problem is the lesser of two evils. one caller said it is not a matter of feeling, is a matter of fact. i am not qualified to make that decision. we have created a problem in our

country. a number of comments were about other children of parents who did things illegally. those kids face the same reality that daca kids face. it is unfortunate. it is part of life. it only gets worse. no problem gets better by ignoring it. right now we have a problem we have to deal with. we have to sunset this program or today's discussion is just harder five years from now. host: henry on average independent line from tennessee. caller: good morning, young lady. my answer is those kids should be left alone. the country should learn one thing about itself. look what is happening in texas. the creator is doing things that should be done. he is using jesus' blood to wash

the earth of the standout is on. paper,n article in the four weeks ago raises an in the ood.ets, this week a fl water all over the city. that is god. i don't feel sorry for. i cannot feel sorry for something that god do. in control of nothing. the only thing man does, he says, god, save me. host: today, senator john mccain , as he is returning to the senate next week, he will return on tuesday after undergoing treatment for brain cancer during the august recess. he will return to the u.s.

senate next week as congress begins a new legislative session and looks forward to continuing his work for the people of arizona. elliott is coming in from south carolina on our democratic line. what should happen to dreamers? caller: good morning. to me it is a simple problem. everyone is going back and forth over this situation because they are illegal. more emphasis should be placed on making them legal. takest know what all it to make this happen, but it seems if they were legal, we would not be having this conversation. people have been talking about president obama passing this law, daca act.

when he passed it, there were two problems who is faced with, illegals being here, and that they were untrained, not in school, and they were having more of a burden on the united states. the act was let them go to school, let them be productive in the united states. it is not going to make them legal, but they are productive more so as it was pointed out. one emphasis should be put whatever it takes to make them legal as opposed to deporting them. regina is on the republican line. what do you think? caller: i think the anchor baby policy where the mother can come here, she gets a free pass to have a baby in our hospitals.

it is expensive to taxpayers. this has been going on a long time. number, ifsecurity you are trying to work without one, you're basically robbing the government. as this teacher from new york confirmed, she knows, they are stealing, doesn't my words, changing their social security numbers in order -- those are my words, changing their social security numbers in order for employers to employ them. occupation ande threw the employer out. send them back to mexico. let's mexico figure it out. send aico go ahead and to houston, take

out there,llegals that sanctuary city that is flooded. we wouldn't have to pay for. mexico can pay for it. take all of them. host: a headline from the washington post, the trump administration has ordered three russian diplomatic facilities in the u.s. closed following the expulsion of american diplomats from russia. last month russia demanded that the u.s. diplomatic presence be reduced by hundreds of people. in retaliation, the state department has over the russian government to close its consulate general in san francisco, a chancellery annex in washington, and a consular annex in new york city. these closures must be complete by saturday. the diplomatic reprisals underscore the continued deterioration's of relations --

deterioration of relations. caller: good morning. so glad to get through. the daca recipients should be allowed to stay. i'm hearing people say they did not start the legalization process. the entire reason president obama took action is because congress refused to act on immigration. he created the daca program for children brought here by their parents. kaufman,congressman whose district is only a few feet from mine, good for him to try to stop this in congress if president trump tries to res

cind daca. one other thing, i noticed your reaction as you listen to these observations. it shocks my conscience to hear the coldness of art coming from other -- heart coming from other americans. i served this country 30 years in the air force. the goodwill we extended towards panama, towards iraq and afghanistan, is not being demonstrated towards people in our own country. the coach of the san antonio spurs says there is a darkness of heart to sending over this country. i refuse to believe it. i thought there was hope. listening to these comments and observing some of the actions they continue from this administration against

transgenders and now daca recipients, he is right. from georgia on our independent line, kenny. what do you think should happen? caller: i am tired of hearing about the issue. i say give everybody and their mom, all the daca kids, give them all citizenship, give them social security cards. let them start paying in. that's my comment. thanks. host: other comments from the new york times today, saying secretary mnuchin may be stepping back from a plan to put harriet tubman on the $20 bill. the trump administration said she may not replace andrew jackson on the $20 bill.

secretary mnuchin declined to endorse the plan that was announced by the obama administration last year. said, people have been on the bills for a long time. this is something we will consider, right now we have more important issues to focus on. we have our democratic line. good morning. caller: good morning. my question or comment goes to the last color from chicago -- concerningm chicago dacaal immigrants from taking their jobs. if he thinks these people are taking their jobs, and 74% of the youth do not have jobs, i think they should register as daca and then they can find a job. that is not the answer to the

solution. what i would suggest, an immigrant myself, republicans, people should separate hatred from reality. these people come here with , so thebitions to excel american people should give them a chance to prove themselves. that immigrants contravene it anonymously to the gdp. -- it is clear that immigrants contribute enormously to the gdp. if they are sent away, it will affect the economy. it is hatred. host: ryan calling in from florida on our democratic line. what do you think?

caller: good morning. i think we should keep the dreamers here and support them as much is possible and their families. deport all theld deplorables and send them over to russia to help build trump tower. thank you. host: in other news, political reports that milwaukee's chair clark issheriff david expected to take a job in the trump administration according to two sources familiar with the matter. he resigned as sheriff on thursday. he became a well-known figure in conservative circles in recent years. other news quoting his spokesperson saying he is not taking a job in the

administration and did not give a reason for his departure. calling in from the virgin islands on our independent line, what do you think? host: what -- caller: what i would like americans to member is mosquitoes do not discriminate on the bite. one day he will have to find refuge in mexico, central, or even africa. mosquitoes don't bite just one person. they bite multiple. be careful what you wish for on daca. where is donald trump tax? where is his taxation? you are worried about money. how can america spend so much

money on military defense? to defend what? you talk about social security. remember, that is mine that comes out of your paycheck. that is your money. you theyan always tell are running out of social security money. remember, mosquito don't bite just one person. hawaii on our democratic line. good morning to you, jim. caller: good morning. i think they should make a totally new program. i worked in the hotel business. i can tell you at least 10% of everybody at work with is either green cardholders or illegals that come from the philippines or some part of the pacific. is, look atoint

this disaster down there in texas, and the price tag they said yesterday is $150 billion. everybody is making such a big deal of $150 billion. gave, the last president $150 billion to the number one terrorist organization in the world, iran. i wish we had that money back to send to texas. i think, the last president put us in the whole $11 trillion. i look around and think to myself and what did we get for $11 trillion? i cannot think of anything. the military did not get anything. they are 1500 pilots short. host: i want to bring it back to the question. what do you think should happen to the people that are here?

caller: i think we should have a complete investigation of what happened to the $11 trillion that president obama spent above and beyond the budget. host: from rochester, minnesota, on our independent line. what do you think should happen to these young adults? caller: i think they should stay. this was a promise by our government. i don't think it is ethical to deport them because it is a pro mise. i don't know enough about the constitution to say whether it is unconstitutional to send them back or to give them status in the first place. one more thing, i think people need to be wary, even if they agree with a lot of president trump's policies, what are the motivations of any given

politician? we should be wary of politicians even if we agree with their stances. host: the new york times reports president trump has pledged to give $1 million of his personal money to the harvey storm recovery efforts. he has pledged to give $1 million in his personal fortune to texas and louisiana. he would like to join in the efforts that a lot of people that we've seen across the country do, sarah huckabee sanders said yesterday, thursday at the white house. calling from mississippi on our republican line, gina. what do you think should happen to daca recipients? host: i would -- caller: i would like to make a comment to the last guy who called that wants to deport the deplorables.

there is only one problem. if you did that, there would be no taxes to support any of the people that are left. you would not have any money to build anything in russia. i want to point out that even in it can only handle so many people. it doesn't mean you don't care about the people that are going to drown. that is just a fact. host: let's look at what the president just tweeted a few moments ago in the wake of harvey. he says texas is healing fast thanks to the great men and women that are working so hard, but still so much to do, will be back tomorrow. the president and first lady are scheduled to head back to texas and go to louisiana tomorrow as recovery efforts continue. cityke calling in from the

on our independent line -- mississippi on our independent line. caller: i concur with my fellow mississippian. chapo, his headquarters is my hometown of illinois. we cannot have a sanctuary city with no borders, where they are bringing these drugs in. there are no jobs for african-americans. if you don't speak spanish, you are not even given an application. i think you should start with the african-americans that built this country, like the capital behind you, like the white house. instead of giving land grants to immigrants, whether it is 150 years ago, that gave them a head start on us. if we don't use reparations to field, if i playing

have a 100 yard -- and you're going to -- a 100-yard dash with you and you're going to timely up for the first 99 yards, how my expected to win? i am not expected to win. that's just the way it is designed. if we don't make steps to try to change that, we will just do slavery again. host: in other news, the hill reports that treasury watchdog into a flight the secretary took on the day of vehicles. day of the eclipse. we are reviewing the circumstances of the secretaries flight to determine whether all

applicable travel, ethics, and appropriation laws and policies were observed, that's in a statement to the washington post on thursday. in other calling democratic line. good morning. caller: since there is no statute of limitations and days kids can be sent back at any time, the roles ought to be the same for everybody. which means also the 50 million black people here in america, which were stolen from africa illegally, also should be given a chance to go. not only that, because they were here, working as free labor for over 400 years, they should be given reparations and returned back to africa. that will not happen because the

economy will fall apart, just like when you try to deport these young people back to mexico. from chadwick is calling denver, colorado, under independent line. what are your thoughts? caller: i am from north carolina. we have been in this family for 400 years, and it is time. nothing has been given to us ever. we won our freedom in the civil aboutet, we are talking giving something to somebody else, which is why we need to ask ourselves, which political party are we on? because we are all races. host: what do you think should happen to these kids? they are here, working under this program, what do you think? caller: they get sent back because we cannot afford to keep paying and disbursing money right now.

economically, it is not viable and there are other people who have not paid for the work they have done in this country. that is not an argument. host: sue is calling in from maryland on our independent line. what do you think? caller: i think they should be given a path of citizenship that only through the military. -- but only through the military. should are age, they show their loyalty to the country and if they are honorably discharged, then they automatically get their citizenship. if they are not physically fit, they have to join the national guard or some type of government service that shows they are willing a dedicated to be and loyal to this country. next, theng up university of maryland's michael greenberger will be here,

talking about the cost and effectiveness of federal disaster relief programs. later, we will meet johnnie christianember of the advisory leaders who continues to support president trump, events in after the charlottesville. we will be right back. ♪ >> labor day weekend on american history tv on c-span3, at 8:00 p.m. eastern, saturday on lectures in history, fears on overpopulation. >> some of the issues talked about are interesting.

pollution was a big one. nonrenewable resources, things like oil and gasoline, but the super big one, the thing that overshadowed that was the prospect of global famine due to overpopulation of the year. >> sunday on the presidency, the friendship between presidents hoover and truman. overlook that they both had roots in farming communities, they had known economic hardship, they were transformed by world war i, and they lived as a shadow -- in the shadow of franklin d. roosevelt. >> monday, the 1967 detroit riots. >> we prefer to think about it as a rebellion because all of the energy and anger and activism that went into that moment had long been predicted. people had been baking for

remedy for the housing discrimination, police totality, the economic inequality, so that frustration cannot be understood as just chaotic and incoherent. it was a rebellion. >> three-day labor day weekend on american history tv on c-span 3. c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's public television companies and is brought to today by your cable or satellite provider. "washington journal" continues. host: we are joined by michael greenberger, the director of health and homeland security at the university of -- the director at the university of maryland center for