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eroded by budget cuts in washington. >> we need counselors in elementary schools throughout the whole state of california. every elementary school should have a counselor because of all of the problems we are having with illness and the gun issue. i think this bill should be passed through the state of california. and theyled ad1644, did not pass it because the governor said he would not supported this time. it was too expensive. i would like to see that happen. i think we will solve a lot of problems with teachers and schools. ♪ >> voices from the state on c-span. ♪ >> there is a live look from new england college at henniker, new
hampshire will a couple of minutes away from live 2020 road to the white house, starting already with ohio governor john kasich speaking at the new in college live at 5:30 eastern on c-span. until then, some political news from the granite state. >> new hampshire, the first date in the union to hold a primary, often gets visits from people potentially looking to compete in a presidential race. two such visits taking place today. paul steinhauser with the concord monitor joins us to talk about it. good morning. >> we have a 2020 double-header today. it is already feeling like the next race for the white house has begun in new hampshire. >> walk us through the events of today, who is appearing? >> i will do it like a radio announcer come in the morning, 20 minutes from now at the new hampshire institute of politics, it is the politics and egg
series. they must stop if you are serious about running for the white house, o'malley, he ran for the democratic nomination in 2016, he did not do well and dropped out after the iowa caucuses where he only got 1% of the vote. he is thinking about another crack at it. he is here speaking of politics and eggs. tip that sparks more speculation and makes you part of the conversation. the big question for martin o'malley is, will he be better than last time and what will be the difference? in the afternoon, the main attraction, john kasich, the ohio governor who did very well, a strong second-place to donald trump in 2016. he is a vocal credit -- critic of president trump and speaking at the new england college this evening and will gather with his friends and supporters from the 2016 primary.
this trip is barking a lot of speculation that he will a primaryconsider challenge to president trump. >> what do you think will be the reception to these gentlemen? >> with o'malley, curiosity by democrats and liberals as dupont will be different this time around. he was going to be the liberal alternative to hillary clinton. he was coming up here a lot in 2014 at 2015 and the one to give hillary clinton a fight. the script did not play out that way as bernie sanders grabbed the momentum on the left. a lot of people wondering what will be different from -- for martin o'malley, he will tell us in the speech. he was here helping democrats running in state elections. he did it all over the country. he has been working hard on the campaign trail across the country to help democrats in 2017 and early 2018 as they
recaptured a lot of the state house seats in new hampshire and across the country. john kasich, he is sending a message to his supporters and tuned, we areay not that far away from 2020. he wants to make sure his coalition is still together and still behind him, if he decides to make that primary challenge. listen, this is the preseason but 6, 7 months, it all begins. >> how unusual or is it unusual to have visits this early? >> not that unusual. in the last 20, 30 years. last year, a bunch of democrats game with 20 visits from potential contenders. john kasich was a pier 1 year ago. -- was up here one year ago. not that uncommon in new hampshire, iowa, south carolina. we are so fickle. we are already looking forward
-- ahead to the next election. >> you have visits by the president and vice president in new hampshire as well. >> we did come in the same week we had donald trump on a monday and he came up to unveil his plan to combat the heroine and opioid epidemic. the candidate talked about that quite often. the state has been hard hit by the drug crisis. he came up here for his first visit to new hampshire since the evil of the 2016 election in four days later the vice president came to talk about the tax-cut law and to help the republican governor chris sununu raise money at a fundraiser. even though the trips were for different reasons, they were planting the early 2020 flag. they realized that there is a possibility that donald trump new be primary challenge at hampshire is one of 10 or 11 crucial battleground states in the general election. reports fornhauser
the concord monitor among other outlets in new hampshire giving us a sense of what goes on in these events with governor kasich and governor o'malley. thank you for your time. >> have a great day. >> letter -- live at henniker, new hampshire waiting for live remarks from john kasich it was leaked to this obvious that college. -- at new england college. he should be here in seven or eight minutes to get started. part of our road to the white house 2020 coverage under way now. let's look at a segment from this morning's washington journal. contributingthany, reporter for foreign policy here to talk about u.s.-china relations. in a general sense, how did the countries view each other? >> in the past, before donald trump took office, before xi jinping consolidated his power, they saw each other as strategic partners. a certain amount of distrust between them.
certainly, clint -- cooperation at arms length. now, since donald trump took office with his tough rhetoric towards china, and with xi jinping's assertive attitude towards the world and china's place in it, you are looking at more distrust. a stronger sense of competition. a stronger sense of rivalry. >> are there several sources of distrust? >> several sources, president trump views china as an economic enemy. he has used that term i think. china sees the u.s. as trying to contain the ambitions. their territorial ambitions. their ambitions to contribute more to global institutions. and to have more military power around the world. , there is a sense
of increasing tension. >> talk about the placement of tariffs from the united states on certain products, the retaliation from china, spell out what happened and the larger implications. trumpmarch, president took the step that he had been -- he had said his demonstration the course last year when he asked for investigations into whether or not china's steel and aluminum dumping has created a national security risk for the u.s. as our steel, and particularly aluminum interest these -- industries have been hollowed out. after the report came out, it seemed to recommend a tariff and that is what he did, put tariffs on steel and aluminum, not just on china but on many countries, including some of our allies. japan, south korea, european countries.
that is what donald trump did. china immediately stated they were strongly opposed to that and that they would be considering their own retaliatory measures. what has happened now, is that china has implemented its own retaliatory tariffs on 128 u.s. products, including port and one. -- pork and win. up to 25%. -- wine. of the 25%. 25%.p to republicans call 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000. independents, 202-748-8002. email us. let's hear from the president. this was done back in march talking about the idea talking about putting tariffs on chinese
products any justification for doing so. there is president trump. pres. trump: with china, we would do a section 301 trade $60on, it could be about billion. but, that is just a fraction of what we are talking about. i have been speaking with the highest chinese representatives, including the president. i have asked them to reduce the trade deficit immediately by $100 billion. that is a lot. 25%,would be anywhere from depending on the way you figure, to maybe something even more than that. we have to do that. the word i want to use is reciprocal. 25% for a carge to go in, and we charge, to present for their car to come
into the united states, that is not good. that is how china rebuilt. tremendous money we have paid since the founding of the world trade organization, which has been a disaster for us. it has been very unfair to us. the arbitrations are very unfair. the judging's have been very unfair. knowingly, we always have a minority. >> in the long run, economically who gets hurt more, the united states or china? -- exports oforts steel and aluminum to the u.s. are not that much. the steel industry, we do import quite a bit of steel, but most not from china. around 2%-5%, maybe 2% comes from china, which is why the terrorists have been levied on somebody countries. this tariff is not the way to stop china's steel dumping.
the problem is that chinese deal -- chinese steel goes to other countries and then comes to the u.s. this is just going to hurt the u.s., because a tariff like this, there will be a wto cases, it alienates our allies, what did we do to deserve this? it is not clear in the long run how it will solve the problem. >> larger geopolitics, we look for china for help with korea and other issues. how do those efforts get impacted by these tariffs? >> that is a difficult question. that is part of the issue with the strategic rivalry with china. the fact is that we do need china's help, especially on north korea. 90% of north korean experts go to china. china is north korea's only
ally. any kind of pressure we want to levy on north korea cannot really be effective without china's help. we see that, even as donald trump has accepted, the upcoming meeting with tim johnson, -- kim jong-un, kim went to beijing to see xi jinping, which shows us, whether we want to or not, china has a big role. it is very difficult on the one hand to ask for china's help, on the other hand, push them away. we are talking about the u.s.-china relationship to a contributing reporter to foreign policy. the first goal trump roger in alabama -- her's call for roger -- the first call is from roger in alabama. independent. >> china and united states have to work together, if one fails, the other does.
malea non-college-educated that sees college-educated idiots that got us in this mess. other, isd of each that a remedy? -- a reality? >> yes, china and u.s. happy to biggest -- have the biggest economies and the world. that's in the world and we have to partner with global trade issues, even security situations. that is absolutely right. >> democrat line, eric in maryland. hello. >> i always assume that, since we started trading with china, everything would be taken to the wto, if there was a problem, if trump had a problem, the information he got back from his investigation, or whatever he got the information from, should
have been taken to the wto and you make your case. they rule. that is why we trade with people. i do not understand where trump gets the authority to put sanctions on other countries. areertainly, these tariffs going to be taken to the wto. you can count on that, not just china but other countries, south korea, european countries. they will very likely bring this to the wto. it is important to note that the u.s. has taken many trade cases to the wto and won, including cases against china. >> aside from the retaliation tariffs that china put, have we had a formal statement from china on the united states action on tariffs? >> yes, the foreign ministry spokesperson delivered remarks and they are understandably not happy. >> maryland, democrat line,
robert. you are next. >> good morning to both of you. as someone in national security who has been his whole career, i that a robusttain steel and aluminum industry, key allies, canada, mexico, peru, since we can travel by land and maintain it. ,he question i wanted to ask would it have been -- what is an indirects on -- tariff, in terms of maintaining these industries. >> in terms of steel and aluminum, president trump looked at a variety of possible ways to address this. there is a distinction to be made between the steel and aluminum industries.
aluminum, in terms of military grade aluminum, using fighter jets and electrical grid. plant in theo 1 entire united states that produces that. if that were to close, the only other plants that make this are in the middle east, russia, iceland. that seems to be a concern. countrieshave many producing the kind of steel we would need. that seems to be less of a national security concern. >> how much influence does china have through other means than economics, overly are covertly? >> we are looking at that right now. the australia, the discussion is, in the past 1.5 years, what is happening there is equivalent to our russia -- our debate about russian influence here. for australia, it is china.
they have seen a decade or so of chinese money coming in covertly into their political campaigns. influencing candidates. particular, a lot of attempts to control the chinese diaspora. initial investigations in the u.s. have revealed some similar trends. extremely tight control of the chinese diaspora here. attempts to answer money into our political -- insert money into our political debate. that is something that, right now, there is a snowball effect. a lot of increasing interest along the fbi and our security agencies. cruzkers, marco rubio, ted , they pay more attention to this. something that will be a building debate in the months to come. >> specific legislation, some of requireents of an act
entities that promote political agenda for a governments to register for as an agent and it forces universities to disclose donations from foreign sources, $50,000, important to consider, especially when it comes to china. >> foreign agents registration russia was forced to register, the problem is that an old law was passed in 1938 and has a lot of gray areas. there is a lot of ways that people, or companies, or nonprofits, or donors, who do have ties to foreign countries or foreign local parties, they do not have to register. there is a lot of perhaps foreign influence that we are not aware of. what this law would do is to try -- if a mediat is outlet does not have editorial control and funding for a foreign government, it would have to register.
that would apply to the chinese network, chinese television network here. and other chinese funded media outlets here. in terms of universities, a particular concern about institutes. they have attempted in some cases to censor it discretion on campus about sensitive issues such as taiwan or tibet. up to this point, they have not had to register and their contracts with universities are very opaque. we do not know how much money the universities are getting or the conditions. this law would attempt to help bring transparency to those agreements. >> republican line, washington state. >> good morning. the question i have has to do with chinese tariffs on american exports. prior to 2018. tariff issues have been going on
in the united states since the united states existed and before the united states existed. prior to 2018, in the last two decades, what chinese tariffs have been placed on u.s. exports? >> there remain a lot of nontariff barriers and a lot of barriers through foreign investment in china. china did not enter the dubya to you until 2001 and it has been -- wto until 2001, and a promise to open for the sectors of their economy to foreign investment, that opening up has been slow. in some cases, nonexistent. there are large sectors in the chinese economy, including an infrastructure into industries such as steel resources. that are not open to foreign investment at all. other forms of nontariff barriers. an interesting case last year in which chinese internet
censorship was floated the possibility of it being a nontariff barrier. google cannot operate in china, facebook, apple faced barriers. there are these kinds of barriers. >> one of the things that comes up in the discussion on trade is the trade deficit between our countries. factor that into the discussion. how much of a concern should this be, the deficits between import and exports? >> depending on your perspective, it is a concern to president trump but i do not feel it is that much of a concern. that is the nature of economics. right now. china has an export base model. they run -- many other countries have trade deficits with china. perspective, your the saying is that you cannot just have a goal of getting rid
of a trade deficit. it is not that simple, very complex factors come into play. to simply say, this is our goal and we will get rid of the -- shouldhat is not not be the goal, rather the road goal in the change in the economic model or strategic approach to trade. as a goal, it does not make a lot of sense. >> independent line, michael from illinois. go ahead. >> good morning. i would like the lady to comment believe thatt, i this problem started 30 or more years ago with the business class in this country committing treason, shipping our jobs over to china. doing all of this technology transfer, because you cannot set up a company in china unless you give them access to all of your
technology, whatever is involved . actually our business community, because of greed and self-interest that have created this problem. china would still be a third-rate power today, if it was not for treasonous business community in this country. they destroyed the middle class. when we go to war with china, the middle class will have to get killed trying to defend this country. that is my comment and i would like her to respond. idea of shipping jobs abroad, we get something in return, right? one thing we get is lower consumer prices. if you have ever shopped at walmart, things are notoriously made in china. they are much cheaper than almost anywhere else. when you have lower consumer prices for daily goods, that contributes to a higher standard of living.
poor average shopper's desk for our shoppers -- wherever shoppers -- four average shopper's, they can increase their quality of life. the problem in the u.s., we have not put enough resources to put in jobs that were shipped abroad. transfer, i would agree that these technology transfers are a major problem. what happens is, chinese companies, the support -- with the support of the government --
gov. kasich: hi. [applause] >> good evening, everyone. i am president of new england college. i am there to welcome all of you. and he speak briefly before i turn over the event to our special speaker this evening, governor kasich. this is the final new england college president speaker series event of 2017-2018 academic