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those are the places where we have fiber networks in every street. that's from every neighborhood on the polls and connecting with neighbors on the street. >> watch the communicators, tonight 8:00 eastern on c-span two. the house judiciary committee will hold a hearing wednesday with constitutional scholars as part of the impeachment inquiry into president trump, focusing on the constitutional grounds for presidential impeachment. the president was invited to attend, as was his legal counsel. white has declined to participate this week. online at, and c-span3 or listen live on the free c-span radio app. robert costas with us. national reporter for the
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washington post. he is the moderator of pbs' weekly washington week. thank you for being here. the impeachment process picks up again today. they will vote on that tomorrow. what are you expecting the house judiciary committee to look like? guest: so far, everything is moving on according to plan in the eyes of house democrats. they feel like speaker pelosi's timeline was to move this through the committee, have the report this week, and move it to the committee for chairman nadler to come up with the articles of impeachment. what we will see likely as articles on obstruction, abused of power, and you're going to see democrats in the coming days underscore what they believe the house intelligence committee has found through these open hearings and depositions. president trump, in their view, abused power, abused the u.s.
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government in terms of how he operated. that is the case they are going to make to the american people even as the process plays out on capitol hill. host: not a real surprise committee report yesterday that the president's counsel issuing the letter, the council says the president won't participate in the judiciary committees impeachment panel, calling it unfair. the president is traveling today, going to the nato summit in london. is the white house leaving wiggle room for the president to participate on some level? guest: based on my reporting, there has been an active discussion in the west wing as to whether president trump or his lawyers should participate in this process by having either the lawyers present, or witnesses come forward. they have ultimately decided not to do so. the argument inside the white house has been, from the council
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office, that as much as they want to defend the president they are going to rely on outside allies to do so. they do not want to legitimize the process in their eyes. by not having lawyers present, by not engaging, even though the democrats are opening the door to participation, they are trying to make the case to the , in thehat this process republican view, is illegitimate. that is why you see the white house standing back from the process paired the president adopting in many ways what resident clinton did, trying to business of the presidency, meeting with troops in afghanistan. host: do you think taking this overseas, the president heading to london, do you think there's a lot at stake for the president at that nato meeting outside having the impeachment package? -- baggage? -- payallies will play
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close attention to how he describes the nato alliance and the russian threat. magazine,ime president zelensky speaking out sankey feels like he can't trust -- peeking out saying he feels like. will be things that people will be listening to. world leaders,- where does this proclaim to nationalists president going to be on key issues? they are also going to be listening for whether he meddles rhetorically in the upcoming u.k. election. host: which is coming up -- december 12. our guest, here to tell -- talk about impeachment. four republicans, democrats,000 four
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(202) 748-8002 four independents and others. it is a good thing that now adam schiff -- the face of adam schiff and the intelligence committee moves to the sidelines and the judiciary committee takes over? guest: betty moderate democrats enjoy that chairmanship has been running this progress because they feel he has been measured, however this is such a charged political process. modern house democrats and republicans are nervous about how this is going to play out. if you are a moderate republican, a suburban district, you are under pressure from centrist voters to perhaps go against president trump and felt for articles of impeachment. if you're someone like collin peterson from minnesota who is in a conservative district, he has been against the process because he wants to focus on other issues. that is where the pressure is going to be felt. more toward the center than the
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edges of the spectrum because both sides are dug in. host: the issue of impeachment playing into the decision -- likely decision by the governor of georgia to appoint the candidate to fill the seat of johnny isakson. politico is reporting the governors setting to bump president trump on the issue of impeachment and take kenny loeffler to fill the vacancy. the president has been forcefully pushing for dog collins, the ranking -- doug collins, the ranking member. collinsllies of doug have been pushing for doug collins. this is a classic washington fight for the governor, who ran in theump ally, is now same way as governor desantis of florida, been governing toward the center. you look at governor camp in georgia, he has seen his approval ratings take up because he is seen as someone who is
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trying to put together bipartisan coalitions in florida -- despite running more hard-line campaigns on the conservative value front. that being said, you see have hiskent want to pick, he wants a woman in loeffler. he knows george is going to be competitive in 2020. he has two seats up, not only the seed that is vacating, but senator perdue is up for reelection. you can see the governor wants someone who allies with him, and someone who appeals to the suburbs. congressman collins has built up a relationship with president trump and he wants that seed. being in the u.s. senate is something that people will fight for. this will not play out in a peaceful fashion. collins' doug supporters want a full support of the president. guest: the president is not going to lack defenders in the
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senate when you have senator graham, senator paul, i could go on and on. it is true, having doug collins there would give the president another political foot soldier. at the same time, this is a georgia politics story or than an impeachment story. callers.'s hear from this is joan from new jersey. say onei just want to thing, if you will allow me to speak. -- c-spanly had recently had a gentleman, mr. moore on, he is an activist and he went on and on. democrats called in, not so much republicans. c-span, why are you slanting towards the left? we have been talking about impeaching president trump for the last three years. we have so many things in this country.
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immigration, infrastructure, drug addiction, homelessness, so many things. this is what the american people want. not people who dislike the president. the media pushes a narrative. only 25he people -- percent of people in the united totes even have passports, go to other countries and see what they are like. we live in the greatest country in the world. we will pick up on that and ask robert costa. she brings up a number of issues. there are a lot of issues facing congress. the top of the list is getting a budget done. guest: that is very true. there are other issues on the table. congress needs to pass a budget so they do not have a shutdown. you also have usmca hovering out there. president trump wants to get it passed. to see theats want
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usmca brought to the president's desk. however, democrats believe -- they have to move forward on impeachment at this point because from the transcript we saw in september of the president's call with president zelensky, they can't ignore his conduct. feelinger pelosi, pressure from freshman members and moderates decided to move forward with the impeachment process. if you step back and think, i am a reporter up there, she is moving pretty quickly. because of the issues brought up, she knows she wants to get through trade, the economy, different issues, prescription drug prices. you see speaker pelosi balancing hertically the interests of base, activists, moderates, and trying to get them on the same page moving forward with impeachment at this 11th hour of the year. at the same time, not ignoring
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issues like health care and the economy because she knows those are issues she wants to repeat again she made in 2018. there will likely be concentrations on those issues. host: so the timeline, democrats have to get the articles done and a photon impeachment. surprised,uld be based on conversations with democrats that it would take longer than mid-january. onhink any democrats, based conversations with them would like to see this done by christmas. host: let's hear from kathy, independent, cambridge, vermont. .aller: hi i have a simple question. , what about all of the senators running for ?emocratic presidency isn't this a conflict of entrance because he is -- interest because he is a potential opponent? guest: we just have mr. rosen.
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interest conflict of -- it is pretty minimal and how it is spelled out. the house acts as the prosecution, and then it is tried in the senate. the biggest concern for many of these democratic senators running for president is that they will miss time on the campaign trail because they have a duty to sit and listen to a trial as members of the senate. many members are coming into this trial with their own notions as to what president trump has done and they may not have reviewed the evidence. unlike a typical jury which may be selected based on perceived biases and backgrounds, getting a jury that is pure as possible, that won't be done. you cannot pick and choose who from the senate should be included. they are all going to be included whether you like it or not.
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the constitution says the senate's de jure end to the jury will take the time to decide. theysenators have told me want to prospective -- respect that. as much as this is a removal of office process in the constitution for the president of the united states, it is a political process. this is not a legal process. president trump does not risk going to jail through the senate. he would only risk being removed from office. this is not a legal process. because it is not legal it does not going to have the same kind of conflict of interest concerns in terms of a jury that you just mentioned. host: news from the campaign trail, reports that steve andock is stepping down, joe sestak stepping down. neither had much support, but how much is the impeachment story taking away from the issues that those democratic
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candidates want to focus on? guest: the impeachment process is playing out, but the candidates on the trail have been focused on health care. there are real debates on medicare for all among senators warren and sanders, and buttigieg and biden. the challenge for someone like governor bullock is, in such a crowded field, a moderate like himself from a state that was won by trump, he was not able to get traction. you think about why governor bullock did not get traction yet a mayor from south bend has, part of it -- if you look at the reporting -- buttigieg get in pretty early in 2019. bullock, because of his work in montana as governor, he is taking time to make his decisions. while buttigieg and biden are out there campaigning, or at least informally campaigning, bullock is not getting much attention.
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he gets in late. it is a lesson perhaps for the future that if you are a little-known candidate you have to start earlier if you want to have media attention early on. bullock was never really able to pull it together. you can see now pressure on bullock to run for senate, since he is not now in the presidential race. he could be part of the vice presidential list, as someone who has one in a red state. host: albert next up. augustine, georgia. caller: can you hear me? host: we can. caller: i just have a quick question for your guest. what bill clinton was impeached for? i know he says impeachment is removal from office, but bill clinton was not removed from office. -- be veryl me specific what he was impeached for? thank you.
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president clinton was impeached by the house of representatives for lying in a in the pollard jones case, i believe it was the pollard jones case. that, congress decided to move forward. it did pass the house which was controlled by the gop. , the it goes to senate senate acquits. meritsd not believe it removal from office. as the gentleman was saying, the house can vote to impeach. just because a president is areached does not mean they removed from office. it means they move to a trial phase for the senate decides their fate. costa, host of washington week on pbs. your thanksgiving program was less about current news, but
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historians -- what were some of your takeaways in terms of the historical perspective offered? guest: it is important to chaotic 24/7is news and political environment about history and where this is all going, and what it all means. we are so close to the glass day toay that we are not -- day day, we are not appreciative of how much we are covering. president push the limits of executive power. presidency mean as an institution? how far can it go? from maggie haberman of the new york times, we heard about president trump as a person, his tactics, and what we can learn about his tax six -- tactics. , a real at his past
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estate developer who fought on the tabloid pages of the new york post, this as somebody who has always been a political brawler. he has been cultivated as a public figure why lawyers like roy cohn and rudy giuliani. sensibilityew york to everything president trump is doing with his impeachment fight, and it is important to understand that. when you see president trump lash out on twitter, or try to build together coalitions in the republican party, you remember that he is always someone who has dealt in power politics. not necessarily partisan politics. he is someone who is outside of the political and party system. it is based on personal relationships and expectations of loyalty. that mo informs this debate. host: you have interviewed president trump a time or two, what is your sense, would he like to testify? was advised not to
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testify. it is highly unlikely he would participate in a senate trial. this is someone who likes to avoid being pulled in front of a legal setting. he prefers a political fight. he has often been litigious. he has used lawsuits as weapons in the past, whether real estate, political or personal. here's someone who is quick to drop a lawsuit. butants to defend himself, his lawyers are cautioning him to not agree to any kind of formal interview. if you are under oath, the president's way of speaking could, to say the least, include lies, false is -- falsehoods, stretching of the truth. his lawyers know that and they told him to sit that one out. host: you have covered a number of his rallies? guest: florida. host: how have they changed over
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the couple of years? guest: there were 21,000 people in sunrise, florida. in florida last week, raucous crowd. they have gotten better -- bigger in the red states. this is a president who has a cooler base of voters. if anything they have gotten stronger as his presidency has played out. they believe he is a victim of the establishment. when you walk around that arena, you could sense that these people are there not because they are republicans but because they are supporters of president trump. they too have grievances with the establishment. they have grievances with the global economy. they see president trump for all of his flaws, which they readily acknowledge in terms of his conduct and behavior. , andsee a fighter for them it really is old-school populism and antiestablishment appeal. that is the foundation of the
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trump presidency. that is why the rallies matter to him because his whole political base is not like most politicians, to reach from the base to the center. president clinton in 1996, george w. bush in 2004, president trump goes more towards the right to stoke the then -- and to the base to have a fiery message. the way republican campaigns are one nationally. most republicans after mitt romney lost would have said it would be very difficult for anyone to win wisconsin and pennsylvania in the future if you are running as a free market republican because that message does not have appeal. yet, president trump is a protectionist on trade, as a hardliner on immigration was able to win those states. we saw suburban voters walk away. base going to be all the
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in 2020, or will he make some sort of appeal to the center? work on opioids and prison sentencing is in -- an effort to get something done in the moderates. usmca, that is one that the democrats would -- house democrats and -- would like to get done too. our democrats on the hill afraid of giving the president they win on that? guest: there are democrats that do not want to see detect this victory on his own -- who do not want to see the president tout this victory on his own. if you are a michigan lawmaker, it makes sense for you to want this to pass because the tries to press mexico to raise the amount of money they pay workers on automobiles. they are trying to come up with different roles on the usmca.
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it is essentially a version of nafta, but they want to make sure mexico is paying a little more in terms of salaries. they want to protect u.s. jobs. they want to protect intellectual property. if you are in an industrial state, there are tweaks that are appealing. -- thosehose appeals parts of the usmca will ultimately outweigh the idea of giving president trump a victory. host: here is called -- coleman from tulsa, oklahoma. caller: i would like to get back to the basis of the impeachment and the transcript. i have read the transcript. there that deals with the basis for the impeachment is trump saying he thought the actions of biden under the corruption issue with burisma was horrible. i wanted the commentator there, the guest, to tell a little bit
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with the facts dealing administration did to burisma during that period before biden burisma.oney going to hunter biden was hired by burisma to protect them. prosecutor was fired on the basis of biden withholding money. that is horrible in my view. want toy guest does not talk about the basis for the impeachment inquiry. host: we will get an answer. guest: let's talk about it. president trump, as his allies , was highly interested in what hunter biden was doing,
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as someone who was paid about $50,000 a month to work for burisma, a ukrainian energy company. his relationship with that company, his business work in amid biden being in office has been of interest to president trump. his interest in what played out there and why the prosecutor was fired, what hunter biden was -- how vice president biden handled the ukrainian relationship at the time, it has animated the president. because of that, in the summer of 2019, he is building this relationship with president zelensky of ukraine and he wants to hear more about what the bidens were doing. in pursuit of that goal, encouraged by rudy giuliani, he has this phone call with
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president zelensky where he mentions that he would like to send zelensky to do him a favor and to think hard about these issues. zelensky has denied a quid pro quo. many u.s. officials have testified they believe it was a quid pro quo suggestion by president trump. interpret this is up to you. you're the american citizen. you decide whether it merits impeachment, but there has been explosive testimony that many u.s. diplomats working under president trump were uncomfortable with what president trump did. there were concerns within the administration about vice president pence -- vice president biden. during this, congress appropriated aid to ukraine which is in a hot war with russia, more than 250 million dollars. that aid was delayed.
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i was in warsaw, poland covering president zelensky and vice president pence in september. i saw a close the tensions about this aid that was being delayed. a few weeks, -- a few weeks later, there was a whistleblower complaint about how this was unfolding. here we are today with an impeachment inquiry wrapping up in the house of representatives. on the day, you sought sunday shows with senator kennedy, many republicans will maintain that president trump's conduct, however unorthodox was acceptable because he was in pursuit of knowledge of the bidens. many democrats and some republicans would say it was inappropriate. it is up to the senate to decide whether this requires impeachment. host: michael byrne from kyiv reporting that zelensky making headway, but --
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the president also treating about zelensky this morning. breaking news, tweets trump, the president of ukraine has again announced that president trump has done nothing wrong with respect to ukraine. if the radical left democrats were saying, which they are not, it would be case over. he also says the do nothing democrats get constitutional lawyers for their impeachment hoax. they will need them. the president leaving this morning for the nato summit. robbie is in fairfield, ohio. yes.r: i am a democrat. trump, and he has unanswered some of the questions i want to know about. it is true that one lady come on the line, she was mixing about
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we got so many other things to take care of besides what the democrats has done. i agree with her. we need to many other things done in this country. our children that we grow to up with, this happened in my time. i was working for chrysler corporation making pretty good money. my planes, andto want our kids to take cuts for their hard work. they were making about seven dollars an hour, i was making 20. we -- nafta, and that's what happens. clinton signed that -- i blame both parties for that. host: all right. jack is in melbourne, kentucky. caller: good morning gentlemen. bob, i watch your show every
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week. i have been watching it ever since -- was on there. i enjoyed. i do have one little thing on this impeachment thing. everybody on their usually agrees with the dems. i would ask you to do one thing, i would get a little of the other side on there. i think it would equal it out a little better. i love your show and you guys are great. have a good day up there. time, i appreciate your particularly on a friday night at 8:00 eastern. washington week with a roundtable of reporters. it is a busy time for people. friday night you may be wanting to go to dinner or go have a glass of something. to take the time and a friday to engage in a political roundtable and to really be at the table, that means a lot to me.
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it is fun. on to your point about the perspectives of reporters, it is a fair critique. -- it is a fair critique to say that at times reporters seem to agree with each other a little bit too often. i would state that your critique about it being aligned with any party is inaccurate. the reporters who are on washington week are in the story. they are reporters who care deeply about their beat. this program, as you know as a regular viewer, has been on pbs for over 50 years. i am honored to be the moderator, following in the footsteps of excellent hosts ifill,ul duke, and gwen who passed away in 2016. i have been trying to follow in their footsteps of of having
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reporters who are nonpartisan discussing issues of the weekend focusing on substance. process, at times so many reporters in washington can sometimes have the same perspective on whether an issue is going to pass the house of representatives, or whether a certain candidate is going to be able to catch up in the race. i am committed to providing nonpartisan, vigorous journalism on washington week. we do that every friday night. i will be the first to acknowledge over a cup of coffee that we are often imperfect, but let me insist that we are trying, and we are never going to align with a political party. it is going to be about the viewer, the citizen, and the reporting. host: mentor, ohio. caller: hi, good morning. i have two things to say. the intelligence
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committee questioning, state department official made a cut tont that aid was the central american triangle countries. that, in my view, destabilized that region and people to caravan of migrate north. the immigration problem was started by the administration, in my view. saga with trump reminds me of james jones. why are these people being -- they don'those
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have their own ability to think and realize what is going on? do we have a united states, or do we have an autocracy anchor -- do we have an autocracy? guest: on your point, president immigration is a candidate and argued that both parties have failed to present -- protect the border. he put that forward in his political agenda in a visceral way into thousand 18 concentrating on the idea of a caravan coming up through central america. pushped that that would voters to come out in 2018. he still lost the house of representatives, but it was his strategy and his view that that was something that needed to be addressed. he went after the caravan day after day, and trump allies told me they would not be surprised
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to see the president focus on immigration again in 2020. if not the caravan, something related to mexico or central america and that threat he perceives. your broader question about autocracy, this is a democracy we live in a republic. i do not have much else to say about that. host: on the immigration issue, reporting in your paper this --ning, a team of reporters the headline of -- plan created a child migrant crisis. deterals aiming to illegal immigration, new policies would leave children languishing in shelters, they move forward anyway. migrantusands of children ended up stranded at the border patrol station, president trump's administration characterized the crisis as a spontaneous result of the record rush of migrants overwhelming
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the migration system. the backup was also part of -- officials knew it would ensnare minors in conditions and leave them in squalid conditions according to internal documents. if you like a reporting from other reporters like michael share, they wrote a book called border war, -- guest: history, when we have time to look back on president trump and his immigration policy, it will take a long time to really understand what happened here. the posttest tried every day. they reveal more about what is happening inside government. stephen miller is the senior advisor to the president. chief immigration advisor working with ken cuccinelli. it was really miller, who is in
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his mid-30's, who is so close with president trump, and you have the president and his top advisor controlling immigration policy in a way that they don't control other. . parts of the government there is a much more independent cabinet. dhs is always something that miller has had a grip on. you have had different secretaries of homeland security, whether it is john itly, but it is always -- has always been miller and trump directing policy. hardline -- underscore that word. --came after jeff sessions he came out of jeff sessions' office when sessions was on the fringe of the gop on immigration. legalg to limit and cap immigration levels, bolster their border, and now that entire sessions project that was lingering on the periphery is now at the top of the federal government. it is seeping down into how dhs is run and how immigration is
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run. it leads to these crisis type moments where children being held and detained, and it leads to an outcry among democrats and many republicans, yet it persists, this our land policy, because president trump stephen miller agree. host: is that dynamic wind of the causes of the turnover we have seen in dhs? guest: if you're running dhs, it is difficult to run dhs because the president and stephen miller , and others in their orbit are always putting their foot on the gas or trying to run dhs from the white house. it has been a place since day , where the west wing has been in that office if not formally, then in spirit every day. john, bridgewater, new jersey. caller: i believe your title is
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national reporter, political reporter,. reporter was's, a objective. number one, can you convince me that you are impartial? -- when it comes to trump? i understand when you are on msnbc which is total entertainment that you have to act accordingly -- guest: i do not act. caller: you do. guest: i do not. sir, i hope when you evaluate my work you evaluate the work, and the way i communicate my reporting whether it is on msnbc, or c-span, or pbs. i am committed to objectivity. i have been committed to objectivity since i started in this business. i believe you need to be vigorous. vigorous reporting is sometimes perceived as partisan, unfairly so. you need to be vigorous and tough on all sides, and you need to be calm and measured and make
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sure you are being perceptive in your analysis, but not partisan when it comes to president -- i spokes someone to candidate and president of the united states, i have been at the washington post for six years, when you look at my reporting, my motto as a reporter sits on my desk is "assume nothing." i did not assume that president trump could never win the nomination. i took them seriously as a candidate from day one. i take other candidates like senator sanders in 2014, -- 2015 seriously. right, you are on the and a populace, or a democratic-socialist on the left, as a reporter, i am committed to taking you seriously in this chaotic moment in american politics. you have the right to interpret what i do, what others do in whatever way you want, but when you ask for my opinion of my work, that is that. host: john in new jersey, go
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ahead. caller: one positive thing you said about trump. host: -- guest: it is my job to be accurate. it is not my job to be positive or negative. host: we will move to marion in grove ssent, georgia. caller: did you say marion? host: yes you are on the air. caller: first, i want to let all the republicans know that we as democrats do not appreciate hunter biden getting special privileges. said, republican stuart all the time as well. take a look at a vodka, chair -- ivanka, jared, all of these senators' children -- senator's children. they all do it and it is wrong and we should bipartisan we have a bill that says we have to outlaw that.
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i think we all feel that way. as far as immigration, i feel we all think that is a problem. i don't think of that as democratic or republican, i think it is an american issue. when i hear that rand paul says we should quadruple legal immigration when we know that legal immigration eventually has -- most of the people here illegally came in legally, that is not going to solve anything. host: can you pick up on her point about hunter biden and the larger issue of insider politics, favors toward members of family or people who are inside with politicians? do you think this has raised this issue tomorrow they national level? guest: when i am out there as a reporter, there are concerned about nepotism. you see it in both parties. democratic voters complained to me, why is jared kushner working
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in the white house? why does the president seem to help his family be part of the federal government? it is an unusual arrangement. we heard these concerns going back to bobby kennedy when he was included in his brother's cabinet. democrats, republicans say how is hunter biden getting a deal with burisma with not much energy experience during the vps tenure? nepotism,erns about insider deals, it fuels on both sides this idea that washington is removed, washington is elite, washington is a protected class. that is why you see outsiders on both sides of the aisle doing well in this kind of environment. , atington is perceived times rightly, as a place where if you have connections you can do better than the average joe. host: speaking of average joe,
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how has joe biden been able to shake the hunter biden story? guest: here remains at the top of nearly every poll. he has slipped and some of the early states like iowa and new hampshire. he is going to have to catch up in iowa to be competitive there. hebe -- his advisers say does not necessarily need to be competitive there. split, if buttigieg and senator warren win the first two , buttigieg in new hampshire, or if sanders does well there, if biden comes into south carolina and places first, we have three or four candidates together going toward super tuesday in a competitive spot. biden has not given up on iowa. he is on the no malarkey tour, he is calling it. he is trying to come back in iowa.
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he knows, as a former vice president, you'd in iowa. be fifthws you want to or sixth in iowa. mayor buttigieg has struggled with black voters. that changes, vice president biden remains popular with black
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if obama did not give ukraine any money for defense trump gave them money. i do not like it that these deep state players think they control foreign policy, they need to be put in their place. as far as joe biden, many in government are benefiting from the aid that is given them., a
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host: we lost the caller, sorry about that. guest: your points there are reflective above, reflective of how many republicans feel about the testimony where you see republicans critical of some of these diplomats for being so alarmed about president trump's conduct. they see in president trump's conduct, what i mean by that is there is a real debate right now about foreign policy. the president at the end of the day is the head of the executive branch. he directs foreign. whatever the president says becomes policy becomes, because the president said it. there is a formal position that the u.s. government takes with its national security strategy document, state department planning, where they come up with goals. that is the point of having a state department international security agency to take the
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threat of a president's words and try to build a coherent policy. that is where the tension has been. the president is testing the executive branch, the limits of the presidency. there was alarm that he was going so far against the stated policy of the u.s. but president , trump's en advisors told me whatever he says is the policy. that should be followed. there is a real tension. i do not use the term deep state. there is a tension between the state and nonpartisan officials dedicated to serving the u.s. government and the president who operates outside the chain of command time and time again. host: to linda in midvale, utah. on the independent line. welcome. caller: hi. i just wanted to say that it is really important, every caller that i hear on here talks about the same republican talking points, the same russia talking points, propaganda.
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it seems like it comes, everyone will say something from fox news. if you do not listen to other points of view on this, it is really hard to understand that there are testimonies given by all of the people, trump has committed tyranny against united states. against his own office. against the president's office. it is really sad for me to hear all of the people who are so employed in this deep state talking points of trump. it is so dangerous to me. i hope that warren or bernie win the election. i am really concerned about the attempts again on our election process. host: mike pompeo, secretary of
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state on fox news this morning. the headline and politico saying that unfortunate that pompeo slams democrats during trump's overseas trip. the house judiciary do you think that was coincidental or a tactic? >> we will take you live now to the university of iowa, where massachusetts senator elizabeth warren is holding a town hall in her bid to become the 2020 democratic presidential nominee. this is live coverage on c-span. [applause] >> absolutely. what is the best way to do that? get involved. get involved with the johnson county democrats and go to .org, get out your pho


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