tv Pentagon Press Secretary Maj. Gen. Taylor Hold Press Briefing CSPAN August 27, 2021 10:46am-11:38am EDT
because our countries is going down the tubes. he does need to quit blaming donald trump for what he did . he did this, donald trump didn't. donald trump would have gotten the people out first before he remove the troops. that is the way president biden should have done this. i don't know who's giving him his information but whoever it is, they need to step down and president biden needs to resign. you have a great day, thank you. host: in the washington post -- in a badly shaken white house, sadness and her and they write that the catastrophe and couple has spawned some finger-pointing and second-guessing and what has been a congenial biden administration. some white house officials >> good morning. thanks for being here.
each day that we been able to provide you updates, we are glad we are able to do that step as from previous days, to give you an operational update and turn it back over to mr. kirby. we have a lot of additional details to offer you about the attack yesterday at the abbey gate that i can confirm for you that we do not believe there was a second explosion at or near the hotel, that it was one suicide bomber. we are not sure how that report was provided incorrectly but we know it's not any surprise that in the confusion of a very dynamic event, it can cause information to sometimes be misreported or garbled. we felt it was important to correct the record with you all here. you have now seen we have updated our casualty list to
include a 13th servicemember killed in action. our thoughts and prayers continue to go out to the families and to the teammates we have lost. this is a devastating time for these goldstar families, a title no one wants to hold, but we absolutely hold in the utmost respect. i can also report that two flights landed at ram stein today carrying our wounded personnel from the attack. these personnel had been transferred to the medical center and are receiving care. in kabul, commanders on the ground continue to assess the risk and the dynamic situation there as they have been since the beginning. force protection remains paramount with the continued threat. we have continued the evacuation mission yesterday, as you saw, as you reported last night, and
i will give you an update of how things have gone the last 24 hours. yesterday, 35 u.s. military aircraft, 29 c-17's and six c-130's departed with approximately 8500 personnel. combined with 54 coalition aircraft departures come an additional 4000 personnel left kabul for various intermediate stage and bases. 89 flights total yesterday out of kabul, totaling approximately 12,500 evacuees safely out of afghanistan p in a 24 houreriod. in the past 24 hours, more than 300 american citizens were evacuated from afghanistan bringing our updated total to approximately 5100. we continue to maximize our efficiency since we began the evacuation approximately 111,000
evacuees have departed safely. the state department counselor officers continue to screen and process people arriving at gates around kabul. some gates have been closed but american citizens,siv afghans who have the proper credentials will continue to be processed for departure from the airfield. there is still approximately 5400 individuals at the airport as of this report awaiting flights. out of afghanistan we have the ability to include evacuees on u.s. military airlift out of afghanistan until the very end. the department of defense has the continued responsibility to support the state department and the ongoing movement of evacuees through our intermediate staging bases and safe havens all the way to the united states in the
coming days and weeks. on that topic, here's a quick update on the military installations in error safe havens and staging bases that are helping transition all of these flights. centcom locations receive process and transfer passengers to follow on locations in europe and the united states. today, they will receive about 19 flights and approximately 5000 passengers in germany, italy and spain, including the naval station. in turn, six flights will transport about 3300 people from europe to the united states. i cannot say enough how important the contribution of our allies and our partners has been in this massive global operation. additionally, more evacuees continue to arrive stateside and
are moving to designated installations throughout northcom. general van will provide a more focused briefing on this extensive briefing later today. in conclusion, i will reiterate what general mckenzie said yesterday. there are more than 5000 u.s. service members in harm's way, saving as many people as they can. it's a noble mission. we have seen firsthand how dangerous that mission is, but isis will not deter us from accomplishing this mission. we appreciate your thoughts and prayers for all of our service members who are carrying on this mission today. above all, we remain focused on evacuating american citizens and other personnel designated by the department of state, safeguarding the lives of those whom we are providing assistance and keeping american troops say,
thank you. -- keeping american troops safe, thank you. >> i just have one other thing to add it's a good segue from what the general ended with. the department of defense can announce today that it is authorizing marine corps base quantico, virginia, fort pickett, virginia and holloman air force base, new mexico to provide additional support to the u.s. mission to evacuate afghan special immigrant visa applications, their families and other at-risk individuals. these installations joint fort lee, fort mccoy, fort bliss and joint based maguire and dix to surprise -- to supply this resort and the defense department will support the state department to furnish housing in the united states for up to 50,000 afghan special immigrant visa applications,
their families and other at-risk individuals. u.s. northern command will coordinate the details with the state department, the department of homeland security and health and human services as necessary and will be provided under presidential drawdown authority to the maximum extent possible with additional support being provided on a reimbursable basis. as general taylor let you know, we have the commander of northern command coming into the briefing room later this afternoon and he will be able to provide more context on that. with that, we will take questions. reporter: for the general, the president has said he wants to get back at isis. how difficult will it be for the u.s. military to do that type of operation considering the lower number of troops and the difficulty in getting intelligence on the ground. i don't know if this is you or john, can you talk about the number of people that will seek
asylum over the next few days? will that number eventually go down? do you know the number of people or what is your estimate? >> on the first question on our capabilities and abilities to protect ourselves and also to conduct the strikes, as i've said all along, we have resources with the centcom commander and commanders on the ground and the capabilities to allow us to execute any type of those operations as those are required to do. >> we are still planning on ending this mission at the end of the month. as i said the other day, as we get closer and we are getting closer, you will see us begin to
make those muscle movements to pull out our troops and some of our equipment as appropriate with any retrograde. what we want to do is preserve as much capability in terms of the security footprint but also in terms of the ability to moving out evacuees. lives are still the priority, the lives of our troops and of course the lives of the evacuees and trying to continue to get out as many as possible. there will be a balance over the next few days as we continue to process through that transition and continue to retrograde. i cannot give you a specific number on any given day but i think you will see us adjust as necessary to make sure we are achieving the proper balance but we will be able to fly out evacuees up until the last moment. that will be the goal. you didn't ask this but i want
to take the opportunity to convey to all of you that as we did before when we began a withdrawal back in april, we were very judicious about the detail we were putting out. i just want to level set with all of you that you will see us become more judicious now going forward as we get closer to the end of the month about what information we are giving you in terms of how many troops on the round. i would not expect us to be giving that number out going forward. or what the capabilities are and where they are and what they are doing. we will be very mindful of the operational security elements of this and i think yesterday is a grim reminder of why that's important going forward. i know that's not what you asked but i wanted to get that out there. reporter: how can you say with such certainty that the taliban were not involved in this suicide bombing?
i understand you are reliant on them for protection around the airport but are you ruling out them being involved because you are dependent on the tele-ban right now? >> i didn't hear general mckenzie put it that way. in one of the questions he got, he said there was a failure somewhere. he even alluded to the fact that it could have been a tele-ban checkpoint. we have not been certain about that at all. there will be an investigation we will learn as much as we can about what happened i don't want to get ahead of that process. reporter: how many isis-k prisoners were left at bagram airport and were released from the prison and why weren't they removed before the u.s. pulled out? >> i don't know the exact number stub clearly it's in the thousands when you consider both prisons.
both of them were taken over by the tele-ban and empty. i couldn't give you a precise figure. we were turning things over to afghan national security forces that was the retrograde process was to turn over these responsibilities. they did have responsibility for those prisons and the bases at which those prisons were located and as the tele-ban advanced, we didn't see the level of resistance by the afghans to hold some territory or some bases and unfortunately, those were the bases the afghans didn't hold those responsibilities were turned over in accordance with the retro gate plan -- retrograde plan back in april. reporter: general mckenzie wanted to talk to the patella about pushing the perimeter back as a way to avoid another incident stub has that happened?
what are you seeing in terms of the flow to abby gate, is there less people being let in, is there a rush of people? >> what i can report with my discussion with the commanders on the ground is that multiple activities have taken place to increase the force protection specifically in communication with the tele-ban -- tele-ban -- with the taliban on their communication. i don't want to go into details of the exact communication, but i know that has happened. what we have seen today is a little lessening of total capacity of people in and around gates. >> thank you.
[indiscernible] people were worried about the taliban. they were psychologically under a lot. since yesterday, afghan people are more worried. do you think that another civil war will start in afghanistan? everybody now wants to leave the country. before, it was only taliban. now, isis also show up. >> before i try to answer that question, i do want to take the opportunity on to be have -- the behalf of the department of defense to express
our condolences for the afghan people who suffered in yesterday's attack. we know there were a number of killed and wounded afghan civilians at the airport, and that there are families dealing with the same terrible news that now gold star families here in the department are dealing with. so on behalf of the secretary, we author our condolences and thoughts in prayer -- we offer our condolences and thoughts and prayers. i wish we knew what was going to happen in afghanistan. we don't. we obviously don't want to see the country torn asunder through a civil war, but that's why, whatever the future of afghanistan is from a governance , we are -- from a governance perspective, we are going to make sure that afghan leaders are held to proper account for the way they are governing, and that afghan neighbors also tried
to play a constructive, productive role in the future of afghanistan. there we will not have a military presence there, the united states government will still want to see what we can do with the international community to make sure that afghans can have the best of all possible outcomes for their future. but i think it would be foolish for us to try to be to predict if about what is going to happen right now. >> have you changed the policy again to be involved in afghanistan? >> the commander-in-chief has made a very clear decision that it is time to end america's involvement on the ground, and we are going to execute that
vision, as we should. >> for the record, would you clear up the confusion of the service affiliation of the dead? it sounds like we have a total number of 13, but that middle number is a little unclear. can you tell us what it is, and that i have a question. >> i am not able to break it down specifically, and i want to defer to the specific number of casualties. as you can imagine, they are having to make, having to have difficult conversations, and we here at the department don't to get ahead of that process. so i think on that one, i would just defer to the services. >> general, if you could just
answer the question about whether the taliban have met general mackenzie's request to push the perimeter further out away from the airport. and he also said he was going to ask them to close some specific roads. >> what general mackenzie said had been passed to his commanders to take not only those specific measures, but other activities that will increase the security and the facilitation of those getting through. i cannot report at this point what actions the taliban have taken, but i know that those discussions are happening and that have happened.
>> i've got to get to the phone a little bit here. politico. are you there, laura? ok, we will come back to you if you are not able to pipe in. tony? >> can you hear me? ? musser -- >> yes, sir. >> yesterday, the president said numerous opportunities will continue to provide additional opportunities for people to get out of afghanistan after the 31st. he said even through means that are provided through operation with the taliban. -- through cooperation with the taliban. can you give me a sense of what you're doing, and what are the military implications of the president's desire for removing people after the 31st?
will there be continue to talks with the taliban, staging a force in the region to get more people out, etc.? >> i think my colleagues have addressed this before. the u.s. government will pursue a variety of ways to help any americans who want to get out after our military presence at the airport has ended to be able to help them get out. while afghanistan is a unique case, it is not completely separated from the larger effort that the united states government pursues all over the world, when we know that americans are at special risk we do what we can to get them out. that doesn't necessarily involve the united states military. so i certainly wouldn't speculate one way or another about what is going to happen after this particular mission ends, but i would not envision a
significant literary role in that military effort going forward. >> to what david was asking, is the u.s. military -- did the u.s. military know that the improvements were to be made, such as improvement of roads or pushing the perimeter back further? why wasn't this discussion engaged in before the attack? why wasn't the point pressed? why weren't these improvements asked for by the taliban? because it is very clear they are asking for this now. >> from the very get-go, even before we had a specific threat assessment, force protection was of paramount importance. i don't want to speak for the chairman, but i think i can in
this regard. from the beginning, force protection was always at the front of everybody's mind. force protection, as you will know, particularly in a dynamic environment, is something that changes all the time. as we got more information, we made adjustments to force protection measures to try to do the best we could at what we thought were the specific threats we were facing, and you heard the general talk yesterday about in the air, there was a lot of ever being done, which included daily communication with the taliban about the nature of the threat, and sharing with them the appropriate, relevant information about what we know. clearly, all of that effort, and there was a lot of effort, clearly fell short in some way because this attack was able to be perpetrated, and we did
suffer, as well as our afghan friends, suffer casualties. we will clearly try to figure out what went wrong because clearly, something went wrong. but it would be irresponsible if we didn't act immediately to double down and make sure that we were being anticipatory as possible because we believe there are credible threats, specific credible threats, and we want to make sure we are prepared for those. i don't think, and i am sure you can understand, that just a virtue of the fact that we may be taking other steps doesn't mean that they would have necessarily been steps for what we saw yesterday. we have additional information, so what i would tell you is it
is based on the information we have. >> can you tell us, do you mean you have additional information since the attack? do you still think something is potentially imminent? >> i thought general mackenzie covered it very well yesterday. we are certainly prepared and would expect future attempts, absolutely. but i won't get into the specifics of what those are and why we are doing what we are doing. without talking to intelligence, we are monitoring these threats very carefully, virtually and in real time. >> two questions for general taylor. in the way that the attacks, u.s. commanders on the ground had improved communications with taliban commanders, none lonely
in improving security, but also potentially getting siv applicants or afghans through the gates, and since isis is also a problem for the taliban, is there potential there to coordinate, to actually target isis? >> when we see improved communication, i would answer that with we are continuing communication. so improve, i would say every day that is improving because we have more repetitions. we are able to continue to have open lines of communication. so the specificity of what is being passed back and forth technically to allow for a better security environment i would say is improving because those repetitions are happening, and the understanding of the taliban, of what needs to take place, is being reinforced.
so yes, and then your second question of passing on specifics like what are we looking for here, what is the threat that we need you to look for, yes, that is absolutely being passed from the commanders on the ground to those taliban commanders to ensure, as mr. kirby said, we understand what to look for. we know what the threat is to try to prevent it. any of those isis threats that could come in. >> secondly, there was a secondary explosion yesterday where u.s. forces were doing controlled detonations of equipment. can you talk about the type of equipment being destroyed any retrograde so it doesn't fall into the right hands? >> the actual specifics of what type of the women was destroyed, i don't have that. but what we have said is that
the commander has the authority there to destroy the equipment they feel is responsible. so as we talk about controlled detonations, that is what we call that, a controlled detonation that could take place if the commander decided to destroy some type of equipment. >> is a mentioned earlier, lives are going to be the priority target. so you can expect that there will be other equipment and material things that were not -- that will not be brought back with us. we are going to do this in a judicious way. some stuff will obviously come back to us, but for the aircraft departing, we want to prioritize passenger seats as much as possible, so you will continue to see things disposed of in a responsible way as we get closer to the end of the mission, and i
think people would expect us to do that. >> what is the department's assessment of the capability of isis-k, and is there a concern that they can continue to launch attacks against the united states post august 31? >> obviously they are a serious terrorist threat, and that was brought home to us in pretty stark ways yesterday. we take the threat very seriously i am not going to speculate about future threats. what i will tell you, and he president has made this clear, the secretary has made it clear that we will not allow attacks on the homeland what they did 20 years ago, and we do have the
cabability to make sure that does not happen, and i think i will leave it at that area. -- leave it at that. i think the threat from isis israel, and nobody wants to see that threat grow. i cannot speak, would not begin to speak for taliban cape abilities or intent. obviously there's significant animosity between these two groups, and they don't share interests, but it would be foolish for me to try to predict the degree to what operations the taliban may conduct against isis-k. all i can tell you is this department does not allow attacks from afghanistan again, and we are committed to that, as well as counterterrorism
operations around the world because the threat has metastasized outside afghanistan to other places which were we also have to maintain a focus over the rise in counterterrorism capability. >> can you speak to any rescue ups that have happened since the attack? >> nothing additional. >> the second question, probably for the general, we have seen anywhere from 89 to 94 flights leave kabul. we have seen somewhere between -- can you ask them why the number of evacuations fluctuates so much, but the number of flights has remained relatively steady? >> first, as you look at the u.s. flights, they have stayed pretty steady. as other countries are coming in , they are evacuating certain numbers.
where they are in the capability or requirement. i think that is where you have seen the differences in the outward flow. you really have 110,000 total, so it started just a few weeks ago, but zero all the way up to 100 and thousand, we would see some of those numbers start to come down. >> hey, john. as part of the exit, is it the u.s. intention to leave a functioning airport with radar at work, computer at work? what is the expectation for what you all leave behind? >> the airport is functioning, and we will need it to continue to function right up until the very end i think the general assumption is that as we depart,
we are going to need to depart from a functional, completely operational airport. that is our assumption going forward, that it will be operational right up until we are gone. you heard secretary blinken say the other day that we are working with the international community. several nations want to contribute to the effort to keep it operational and are willing to work with the taliban to that end. >> any taliban operations against isis aside, do you have any assessment of what isis fighters at the prisons they may have -- fighters at the presence they may have may have taken? >> i do not know. >> have you sought to find out and can't find out? >> i don't know if that is knowable. i am happy to take question, but i don't want to raise
expectations here on the level of granularity we may have gotten from these prison releases. i don't want to overpromise here. i'm happy to ask that in, but i can't mishear a good answer. >> the capacity you referenced earlier, can we expect those folks to be processed in the same four states that previously reported? ? >> i think we added some extra facilities. the secretary has been clear that if we need more because the demand is there, we will work the states and work with the services to identify potential military installations, but those are the ones we are operating from now.
>> currently it is a 14 step process to get an siv process validated. will there be a change in that process? >> i honestly can't answer that question. that is ready for the state department. it is not a to permit of defense equity. >> thank you. sorry, for next time i will bring more. [laughter] president biden said that -- also general mckenzie said yesterday that there was concern
with international partners. [indiscernible] >> i can't speak for general mckenzie and the discussions, other than what he said yesterday, that he's continuing to coordinate with all of our allies and partners helping us with this right now. it is extremely important. the ability to continue to see green eyes all of the airlift's that continue to come in, and ensuring that as time goes forward, all of that is extremely important. i think i would have to turn it back over to general mckenzie for any of those specific questions. >> what are the units for the
allies? >> i'm sorry -- from the operational side, i think it is important we continue to support the work together as we continue this mission forward that is extreme important. thank you. >> something that gordon asked about, we have been hearing some reports that there have been some attacks by isis-k against taliban checkpoints in the city. are you seeing any evidence of attacks on the taliban checkpoints? can you give us more clarification on the sharing of american citizens' information, as well as siv information with the taliban? >> i don't think they are sharing information, as you would say in the, like we are giving information. what information is very
important right now is at the ground level, to ensure that as people approach checkpoints, those tele-venture leaders have and understand what is coming, what documentation they are supposed to have. it is important for us to ensure that people are not in areas and just staying there for long periods of time. the commanders on the ground continue to coordinate how we continue to increase that throughput through checkpoints, through gates as fast as we can. it is very safe to -- that it is very safe to get them there. >> how many u.s. troops are still on the ground, and how is the security -- how has the security posture at the gate changed? >> back to what mr. kirby said earlier, we talk about troop numbers and capability.
capability has not changed. for us to secure all the gates, to be able to process evacuees and our ability to rapidly turn aircraft as they arrive, and as we talk about force protection at the gate, i am not going to get into the specific ttp's that those junior leaders are taking, other than we continue to learn every day from the day before, and we will continue to work to ensure that they can continue to come in and also stay safe. i would say patterns, things that we try not to get into. so i would tell you the most simple operational piece, we are always doing things that we can to keep us safe and not create
patterns. >> we still have active threat streams, and we are taking steps that we believe are appropriate to those streams, and i think i would leave it at that. the general mentioned over 5000 today. we are not going to get in to -- don't expect daily updates on him any he troops are there at any given point. >> you said that there's going to be an investigation into what happened yesterday. are we talking about a full criminal inquiry with forensics people on the ground, interviewing witnesses? who is going to be doing that? how would you do that in the middle of a war zone? >> i would not classify it as a criminal investigation, but we
will do what we can to figure out what happened and what we can learn from it going forward. it will be a complete, thorough investigation, and i will leave it to general mckenzie to describe for you the architecture of what that is going to be. but it is not like we haven't had to do this before, and we know how to conduct these investigations. [indiscernible] >> u.s. service mentors are doing and can double job, sacrificing their lives. my question, do you think the move from afghanistan -- >> it is not about u.s. controlled in the indo pacific. it is about protecting our country from threats and challenges that emanate from that part of the world, and
about revitalizing our network of alliances and partnerships to help our partners in the international community do the same. that is why the secretary's first trip was to the region. the vice president just returned this morning from the region. we are laser focused on the end of pacific and the security challenges, as well as the opportunities that are there. it is not about u.s. control. it is about u.s. partnership. silly, you have been very patient. -- sophie, you have been very patient. >> can you tell us if it was at the gate itself, in the middle of the crowd, or at the checkpoint where the guy was walking, or if he was in a bus? >> first, i will start off with
d tiles -- with details are continuing to be collected when it comes to continuing to learn as much as we can. as you know, when the attack initially starts, you have to fight the fight, and right know we are insuring the respect and dignity of our wounded and those that were killed in action. but as we look at the details, and as we saw yesterday at about 17:48 kabul time, there was what we reported as a suicide pond that exploded right around the gate. we do not know the exact location, but it was right outside the vicinity of that gate, and then followed by direct fire from an enemy position that is not exactly known. it was outside, with we would call just north of that gate area also. >> how money assailants were
killed, just the suicide bomber bus the shooter --bomber plus the shooter? >> right now, what we know is there were shooters. we don't know the exact number, but one with a suicide vest. >> go ahead. louis, go ahead. >> -- by that gunfire? >> like i said, we are asking very detailed westerns about -- detailed questions about that. i can't answer numbers. i would say that could come out, but just knowing the facts of the incredible devastation that happened there, i think we should just leave it there. [indiscernible] >> i'm sorry. so my question, yesterday the president said, "we will hunt down," and basically get revenge on the isis attackers from
yesterday. can you explain to the american public who saiy, what would that look like if we go into a situation where we are going to hunt on these isis people? >> i think as we look at currently, i think i have answered that question of we have options there right now, that we can ensure the commander has the ability to take action as opportunities present themselves. but item -- but i am not going to think about the decision -- going to speak about the decisions that general mckenzie will making future operations. >> to follow up on the gunman, was there more than one gunman? was that gunman killed? >> that information is still coming in. what we do know, absolute fact, is there was a suicide-borne ied
and a gunman. that is all for sure that we know. >> you had 31 american casualties overall. that is a significant number at one location. how can we explain why? where they concentrated in one area? was there a seachange underway? how is it -- or were they spread apart and that is just how they aligned? >> this answer is not going to be rewarding to you, but it goes back to the commander will figure all of those out at the due time. those are the questions that i think are very appropriate, but right now, but i can tell you is the commander is continuing to execute the mission, make sure that other forces can continue there, and ensure that the
information for a couple of questions we have answered will come at the proper time. >> for general taylor, i know it has been said numerous times that the focus of the mission is to get edac and met ash get evacuees and americans -- get evacuees and americans out as quickly as possible, but for those injured and taken to the hospital, has there been any talk of setting up security for those individuals? i'm hearing reports on the ground that there are fears that isis may attack the hospital. are there any talks to possibly help keep those afghan civilians safe from a potential attack? once they are well enough to travel, how will they get to u.s. as well? >> first of all, what i can report is that there were some afghans there that were treated by u.s. and other forces immediately there. i am not fully aware of the
reports on the hospitals in kabul because i do know there were afghans take into multiple locations in kabul. >> we have time for just a couple more. >> you said that lives are the priority, so my question is pretty straight forward. should americans expect more u.s. casualties in the next few days? >> we obviously don't want to see anymore casualties. that is why we are monitoring the threat streams very closely and taking what we believe are the best possible steps to prevent another tragedy like this from happening. the secretary made that very clear to leadership last night and this morning, that force protection will remain a permit concern, as it always does. >> to add to that, parent leaders a bottleneck at dulles airport with these u.s. airlines coming in, with refugees at
dulles airport. are you aware of that, of refugees being stuck on the timing for hours? -- the tarmac for hours? >> we are aware of those, and they have proven accurate. it is really more an issue for customs and border patrol, and the process, so i don't want to speak to them or their process, but as we understand it this morning, they have worked through the difficulties, and we believe that wait time now upon landing is going to get much shorter. but i would refer you to my colleagues at customs and border control to speak to that. thanks very much. oh, one more. go ahead. >> how many afghan siv's have been flown out so far? >> check me on this, but we look at the number just before coming out, we have just under 7000 now
that are in the states and being processed. that number will change every day, obviously, as it should. thanks, everybody. we will see you again -- it is 3:30 this afternoon. i do apologize for the delay this morning. we were getting updates literally as we were getting ready to come out to see you. we will do the best we can to be markham actual -- to be more punctual. but thanks. we will see you later. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2021] >> this afternoon, the state department holds a briefing for reporters on efforts to evacuate americans and others from afghanistan. that is set for 2:00 p.m. eastern today. live coverage on c-span. >> on saturday, the anniversary of the 1963 march on washington. voting rights advocates will hold a march and rally and wash in, d.c. 2:00 -- in washington, d.c. to call for passage of
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