the day he died and the number assigned to me now. if i can't ever go to the bathroom, i will not go. i promise you i will not go anywhere. i will stay right behind these black gates. >> next, linda thomas-greenfield on her role as u.s. ambassador to the united nations while the war in ukraine continues. she also talks about the un's response to the ongoing crisis. this is a conversation with the brookings institution. >> thank you for joining us on the state of international cooperation. the vice president of the global

economy and developing program at brookings. it is a privilege and great honor to welcome the u.s. representative to the united nations, linda thomas-greenfield. by way of introduction, she is the 31st u.s. ambassador to the u.n.. she was nominated by president biden in january of last year. and confirmed the following month by the senate with overwhelming bipartisan support. mr. coulibaly: and sworn in on

february 24 of last year. linda thomas-greenfield is one of the most distinguished and experienced u.s. diplomats with over 35 years in the foreign service. prior to the united nations, she had senior positions at the department of state, including serving as assistant secretary of african affairs from 2013 till 2017. and her distinguished foreign service career includes ambassadorship to liberia and postings in switzerland, pakistan, kenya, india, nigeria, and jamaica. after retiring from the state department, she led the africa practice bridge group and was distinguished fellow in african studies at the institute for diplomacy at georgetown university. she is the recipient of several awards including the hubbard

humphrey public leadership award. the bishop john t distinguished humanitarian service award and the walter christopher award for outstanding achievement in global affairs. she is often referred to as the people's ambassador and is renowned for her trademarked diplomacy in reference to her ability to break down barriers and work with her counterparts at a human level first. by inviting them over to cook together and taste her great louisiana cuisine. madame ambassador, thank you for joining us. we know that you have an extremely busy agenda, particularly with the crisis in ukraine and we appreciate you taking the time to be with us today. ms. thomas-greenfield: thank you very much. thank you for the kind introduction and thank you for inviting me and giving me the

opportunity here. brookings does extraordinary work on global economic development issues and i have engaged with you in the past and i am delighted to be a part of this discussion today. mr. coulibaly: yeah, thank you. before we start, i would like to take a moment to pay our respects to one of your predecessors in the united nations and the first woman secretary of state, ambassador madeleine albright. she was also a partner of yours in the stonebridge group. and if my memory serves me correctly, the last time i saw her was when i came to see your office, before the pandemic. and she was certainly a courageous trail blazer, a champion of democracy and human rights and a strong believer in international cooperation. as you have correctly pointed

out, she has certainly left a permanent mark on the united nations and on the world. her legacy will without a doubt indoor. ms. thomas-greenfield: her legacy is seen every day in the united nations. on the day she passed, we were considering a resolution on ukraine. and every sickle ambassador, friend and foe, got up and commented about her extraordinary career and the impact that she had on their lives. it was really a great moment for us to hear her -- about her legacy, although it was extorted nearly sad that she was no longer with us. mr. coulibaly: the world will domain a better place because of her service. so as you mentioned, perhaps we can start there with the ukraine crisis. and what you might see as some of the implications for the future of international

cooperation. i think the war in ukraine is perhaps the closest we have come to a global conflict since world war ii. and many view it as a turning point that could mark the beginning of a new world order. so first, how is the approach to the resolution of the war in ukraine playing out at the u.n.? what guides how countries are casting their votes for or against russia? and even those who are abstaining. second, what do you see as the main implication of the world order >> is this divide telling us anything about the configuration of an eventual new world order? ms. thomas-greenfield: let me start by saying first and foremost that the united states worked diligently prior to the start of this conflict, to help find a diplomatic solution to avoid this unconscionable war

that the russians have taken against the ukrainian people. those efforts included president biden reaching out directly to president vladimir putin, meeting with him directly in the months and weeks ahead of this. there were several meetings and discussions between secretary lincoln and his counterpart -- secretary antony blinken. we had discussions in the united nations to avoid what we are experiencing right now. those efforts failed and what russia has succeeded in doing -- they failed in bringing down ukraine, but they have succeeded in uniting the international community. they have succeeded in unifying and emboldening and giving courage to the ukrainian people.

to fight back. and they have succeeded in uniting nato. and the international community has stood strongly in isolating russia here at the united nations. we have had two votes -- in fact, three votes in the general assembly. one condemning russia, which we got 141 members to support. the second, calling for humanitarian assistance for the ukrainian people. we got 140 votes or that. and just recently, last week, we succeeded in suspending russia from the human rights council through the general assembly. so they are isolated here at the united nations and while they do have a veto, there veto has not been effective in vetoing our voices, in vetoing the

condemnation, in vetoing the unity of the international community and calling russia out. you mentioned that there are some countries who abstained. i cannot explain the reasoning behind other countries decisions about their votes. we have heard different explanations being given to us. countries think that abstaining is neutrality. it is not neutrality. we know that russia has started an unconscionable war. they have committed war crimes. they have committed human rights violations. you cannot be neutral in the face of those kinds of events. we know other countries have been threatened by the russians. that if countries voted against them or

abstained, they would take action against those countries. the united nations, some countries made the decision to abstain in the face of intimidation. but all said, we have been successful in isolating russia here at the united nations. and they have heard clearly, they have heard loudly from the international community that we condemn their unconscionable war against the ukrainian people. mr. coulibaly: thank you, madam. and i think the leadership and the efforts to suspend russia from the u.n. world council did not go unnoticed. but it has nonetheless not stopped russia. and the question might be what is there -- in the united nation's toolkit to suppress russia. they have veto powers.

it is the u.n. running out of options at this point? ms. thomas-greenfield: the u.n. and the multilateral system is still the best tool that we have to put pressure on the russians. and we have not run out of options. we continue to ramp up our efforts. we continue to build our coalition of the willing against the russians. the united states has increased our sanctions against the russians. we have continued to put pressure on the russians. and we have built a strong coalition of support for the ukrainians here at the united nations. so again, the russians are feeling isolated. they are not attending meetings at high levels. they are using this information that is not believed in the united nations. they still continue to call this a military -- temporary military action. we have seen what their military

action can lead to. it can lead to the destruction of a country. we are also raising the voices of ukrainians. i traveled to moldova and romania two weeks ago and had the opportunity to sit with refugees who had fled the cities. the carnage in ukraine. to hear their excessive terror, their worry about their family members and those voices will continue to be raised. secondly, i had the opportunity to see what the united nations is doing on the ground to support those people who have been impacted by this war, both those across the border into other countries, but the more than 6 million who are still living inside of ukraine, who have been forced from their homes. more than 10 million people have been forced totally, 4.3 million

have crossed borders into neighboring countries and we are working with those neighbors, working with united nations systems, humanitarian organizations to provide support to ukrainians who are in need of support. mr. coulibaly: great. i think you mentioned this, solidarity. and it is impressive how the world came together, not just governments, but also civil society and even the finance secretary, doing what they can. but at the same time, the global biz order, when they vote against what was supposed to help reverse course, we continue to see how this unfolds. but if i cannot take a step back from the crisis in ukraine and discussed the state of u.s. relations with traditional

partners at the u.n., i believe that the previous a ministry she had turned its back to some extent on multilateralism. and to prioritize international cooperation, i think this reversal confused many of our traditional partners, who support -- i think you would agree is essential for u.s. leadership. but the good news is the biden administration began to reverse course from the first day in office and for your part, proactive in repairing u.s. relations with the u.n.. so how would you judge the current state of those relations and to paraphrase president biden, is america back at the u.n.? ms. thomas-greenfield: certainly given the fact that i am earning on a treadmill 20 47, we are back. and i will tell you that when i arrived in new york on the 25th of february, just a few hours after i was confirmed for this

position, i really did hit the ground sprinting as i described it in my first of march. because within two days -- four days of arriving here, i became president of the security council on march 1. and i think there were some doubts. about whether we were truly back. we rolled up our sleeves, we really got to work in terms of rebuilding our relationships, rebuilding our alliances, re-engaging. in the multilateral system, you know, we immediately noted that we were rejoining the w.h.o.. we announced that we were rejoining the human rights commission. we started to work on rejoining the paris agreement. we really did move forward, almost like a bulldozer.

to get back into the multilateral system. so there is no doubt now that we are back. our leadership has been asserted in all of these forums. we have taken the leadership reign and for example addressing the covid pandemic. we have delivered the president -- noted that we cannot address this pandemic alone. by just going with the consequences in our own country. we have to address this in a global way and we have led the global pandemic response. we have delivered at this point more than 500 million doses of covid vaccine. i have made sure wherever i travel, that i highlight those efforts, including receiving and delivering doses, watching doses being administered to frontline

health care workers, watching doses being delivered to ordinary people. so, we have really reintegrated long-term partnerships and alliances and created opportunities for cooperation. i have been on the road traveling. i sense in the little over one year that i've been here, i've traveled to ecuador, to haiti, to thailand, to japan. to mali, and it goes on and on trade i mentioned moldova and romania just this past week. and all of that is part of our effort to again reengage. i have tried over the course of one year to meet with every permanent representative here in new york. i have hit 117 as of today.

i'm disappointed because my plan had been to meet with all. in that first year, i realized that i cannot be in two places. mr. coulibaly: priorities come within certain terms. achieving 117 in this context. in terms of u.s. leadership, i think you would agree that it is about traditional partners, but also about nontraditional partners. and the u.s. is going be effective, then how do we engage with nontraditional partners, especially the ones that have influence in a global stage? and a monk nontraditional partners, none is more influential perhaps in china. there is concern that we could end up in a bipolar world order with the u.s. and china leading to distinct blocks.

similar to the cold war era. so competition is inevitable. cooperation is necessary to address global challenges. so how are you navigating this complex relationship with china and where do you differ the most with your chinese counterpart? ms. thomas-greenfield: our relationship with china is probably the most complex, the most complicated, and the most consequential relationship that we have here in new york, but also around the globe. and the president has been cleared that we meet with china and we have a profound stake in ensuring that the values and the institutions that the united states believes in, the institutions that we helped to create and that we have invested in, continue to deliver.

so we are not always -- clearly not always in sync with them, with the chinese, as we approach them here on the international stage. but they are a permanent member of the un security council. so we deal with them on a daily basis. i deal with them consistently as a member of the p5. numbers of the p5 including russia have a responsibility to uphold the foundational principles of the united nations, of the charter, and to encourage others to do the same. this is why we have been so strong in pushing against russia , a p5 member with responsibilities. who has broken its commitment to the united nations by invading another country, so we put pressure on china to join us against the russians.

we put pressure on china to joining us in holding the state accountable for the recent -- the test of i cbo's that they have done over the course of the past few months. and we put pressure on china to work with us in areas where we do have commonality. to work with us on delivering humanitarian assistance, to represent climate change. that said, we continue to hold them accountable for their own human rights violations. we do not shy away from raising those concerns that we have made clear. that what we see happening with the muslims is a crime against humanity. it is genocide. we called it out for what it is

and we are committed to -- the administration is committed to systemically calling the chinese out on this issue. they clearly do not like that. they made the unfortunate decision of aligning themselves with the russians on ukraine. but i do not think that it is a comfortable place for them, because they have indicated that they do believe in the charter. they believe in the sovereignty of nation, they do believe in the integrity of borders, and if they believe in those three things, the charter, sovereignty and integrity borders, they cannot become jewel supporting russia's -- they cannot be comfortable supporting russia's attacks on the ukrainian people. mr. coulibaly: speaking of how the u.n. functions, we can switch if it to that u.n. performance. i think there is

agreement that since the u.n. was created after world war ii, it has served various functions. it's increasingly evident that it could use more reforms to respond more effectively to the problems of the 21st century. i think you echoed some of these sentiments during your confirmation hearing when you stated that we must have the courage to insist on reforms that make the u.n. more efficient and effective. so having now observed how the u.n. operates over the past year or so, what do you see as the highest priority areas for reforming the u.n. system that can make it more efficient and effective? ms. thomas-greenfield: you know, this is a complicated

bureaucracy. it is a huge bureaucracy. it's not just how we operate as a security council and general assembly, but you have specialized agencies that are operating out there as well. our approach to the u.n. has been very deliberate. it is strategic. we try to be inclusive, extending the u.n. system to those countries and people who have been historically marginalized. to include racial and ethnic and religious minorities, persons with disabilities, those marginalized due to sexual orientation. we lead in the u.n. and we push reform in the u.n. that recognize the basic rights of people. this is not about just member state rights, but it is about the rights of people. so we have worked to push reforms in terms of advancing

equality in full and meaningful but dissipation of women within the u.n. system. -- meaningful participation. we are working to tackle global challenges that require a member states to actually be part of a u.n. system. and as you know, there is a whole slew of reform efforts that are out there, including one most recently that we support that has been led by benjamin stein that requires this resolution task that permanent members of the security council, to the general assembly and explained why they used their veto. and so -- mr. coulibaly: more accountability. ms. thomas-greenfield: so we are ready to explain why they used their veto and we want others to explain when they use their veto as well. and we need to, within the u.n.

system, ensure the integrity and effectiveness of the u.n., itself. we are working to stamp out sexual abuse, exploitation. we are pushing the u.n. to become more efficient. and we are working with other countries to support their best efforts as well. there is lots of discussion when you talk about you and reform of security council reform as well. and what that would mean in terms of adding new elective members as well as adding new permanent members of the security counsel. we are prepared to engage in those discussions and see -- and absolutely see where they meet us. mr. coulibaly: at brookings we are doing work looking at this. brought together scholars from global north and global south to collectively talk about how the

u.n. can reform and what reforms the u.n. system could look like. we have some ideas and proposals we have put into a collection of essays. ms. thomas-greenfield: i would love to see those. please share them with me. mr. coulibaly: yes, definitely. and sticking with reform, i think the secretary-general had mentioned the upcoming summit of the future, to agree on common agenda and a package of reforms. for the international system. we know previous attempts to reform the u.n. system have faced significant obstacles. what can we expect from the upcoming summit? that was before the russia and ukraine. the dynamics of change, but are you optimistic that they will go through with reform plans for next year? that this time could be different and we could see a more meaningful reform of the institution?

ms. thomas-greenfield: you know, we stand ready to partner with the secretary-general and put the united nations and member states, civil society, and other stakeholders, any other elements of the secretary-general's agenda, particularly in areas of climate change or human rights, public health, sustainable developing goals and on you and reform. so i think this is still a work in progress. and we will look forward to seeing where it leads, but just to be clear, it is something that we will partner with the united nations on. partner with the secretary-general to work on making this optimization that we all contributed to building. to make it more efficient, to make it more effective, to make it deliver on what people expect it

to deliver on. and that is in relation to the security council, that our job is to save the world from the scorch of war. we should be promoting peace and security. and we have to make sure that that is front and center of what we do and what the secretary-general does in his efforts to push forward his own agenda. mr. coulibaly: yeah, here at brookings, we share with our bodies involving the reform process, our research. and i think you mentioned the u.n. specifically, but i believe other multilateral institutions, world bank, who, reforms to be benefit and to address the challenges of the 21st century.

especially the u.n. inspiring other institutions to take those meaningful reforms. if i can now talk about the sustainable development goals, which it has been seven years since the country around the world have come together to establish the u.n. sustainable development goals. 2015 was the target date of 2030 -- with the targeted of 2030. progress has been slowing with many countries off-track. covid set some countries back and ukraine crisis i suspect is not going to help either. so how do you assess the progress on the agenda globally? but also in the u.s.? because developing countries, i think --

the u.s.. what additional efforts and steps do you think are needed to accelerate the progress. ms. thomas-greenfield: you know, it is -- i mean, we have made clear from the start that accelerating the full at the mentation of the 2030 agenda for sustainable development and achieving a sustainable development goals, you know, there are some that are higher priority for us than others. we will start with sbt for, where the focus is on quality education. 10 u.s. agencies including the millennium challenge corporation partner globally with countries to improve education systems at all levels. we provided billions of support to governments and civil societies. but the covid crisis set us back

significantly on that goal. secondly, it is not just about providing books and teachers. it is providing technology. which, you know, is clearly something we should have been doing, but we have to speed up providing the technology so that kids can learn from home. it was easier here to do it in the united states than in the developed world than to do it in the developing world. the developing world has fallen behind significantly on this development goal because of the pandemic and i think we are going to see them falling behind on other goals as well. cg five, advance ring janitor -- advancing gender equality and women's development, global participation in strong democracies supports peace. i talked about that today within the council on the yemen discussion. i talked about the importance of

having yemen women engage in the peace talks and in the newly formed government. we see that even in ukraine, where the vast majority of the refugees that we see going across the border from ukraine are women. so women have to play a significant role and of course, across africa, we see the importance that women have played in peace and security. and i always take the opportunity, when we are talking about women's engagement in peace and security, president johnson and the efforts that she made in liberia to bring about peace and security after that country went through a few hundred years of civil war. climate change, we have to address the protection of our natural resources, our ecosystem. that is a top priority for the united states.

we strongly supported the you and environment assemblies march of negotiations for global agreement created at the time that ocean plastic pollution happened recently. the goal of conserving at least 30% of land and water by 2030. so, were making progress for sure, as are others. were trying to address these goals, but we have to be realistic that the contingencies of today's crises satisfy what is projected. ukraine, not projected. the pandemic and we are beginning to see more and more of the impact of climate change increasingly having an impact on our ability to actually achieve these goals in the timeframe that we have.

would not push them back, would not be part of that. we are considerate at two accelerating achievements on the scg's. mr. coulibaly: stronger u.s. leadership and voice on the issue, in pushing the agenda forward. here at brookings, including the leadership of the u.n., sustainable development and growth and even have a center in 2020 which signaled our own commitment to this agenda, including u.s. leadership on the agenda as well. so in 2030, if both countries are able to switch their targets. so one more question, linda, and then we can turn to some audience questions.

so i think if is about priorities and when he took office, what are the priorities going forward? i think when you took office, the world -- it still is seeing significant challenges, emerging from looming crisis, the global pandemic, and a stream of conflicts and humanitarian crisis. syria, yet in that yemen, ethiopia among others. in the face of numerous challenges and new ones that you stood up to, how do you prioritize? ms. thomas-greenfield: i think i heard you use a phrase, the party within the parties. and that is really basically what we have had to do. i used to hear them talk about the priorities of the priorities

and you don't always get to define what your parties are. but if i could define a party, it is -- a priority, it is always to be ready and flexible to address whatever party we have in front of us. to do that, you have to do what we have done over the course of this year. we built our alliances, engage with everyone in the u.n., so that you understand their priorities and they understand our priorities, so that we are not calling on them the data we need them. -- the day that we need them. we develop those relationships and discuss policies needed to engage with people, so that when we needed their support, they are there for us. and when they need our support, we are there for them as well. i think among many of the priorities here for us, we put

our values of human rights at our core. we cannot ever ignore the importance of human rights. every civil one of these crises that we engage in over the course of the one year i have been here, from ethiopia to yemen, to sudan, to libya, you name it, it is about the impact of ordinary people. and i try to the extent that i can to engage with ordinary people, so that i can bring their voices to the security council when i speak at the security council. and then, the other issue that i think is really important and i think that you and others in the audience will appreciate is that we have made it part of our priority to make sure that civil society has a voice as a united

nations. so we push constantly for civil society voices to speak. when we spoke yesterday about the issues, sexual violence against women, we had three extraordinary women come before the council to speak. speaking in the context of syria and western ethiopia. those voices matter. they matter more than our voices matter. so that is the priority for the u.s. as we deal with the myriad of crises, having civil society there, having human rights at the center of our policy. then bringing our partners and alliances together to partner on issues of common interest to the globe. mr. coulibaly: thank you.

and again, the importance of what you just mentioned on the way the u.n. has been able to bring in civil society organizations into the discourse. i think it is very crucial. it would be a great and very important part of the future of the multilateral system as we envision it. so with that, i can turn to some of the questions that we have received. and the first one is from sarah. population funds. her question is how do we ensure that the unique needs of women and girls, particularly protection from sexual violence, are prioritized in a humanitarian crisis? ms. thomas-greenfield: sarah, thank you so much for that

question. i will recommend that you go back and listen to our discussion yesterday in the security council, because every single member state indicated how important it is that we prioritize women and girls in every activity that the united nations is doing. wherever they are in the world. and that we hold countries and the u.n. agencies, and even ngos , accountable for ensuring that they meet the needs of women and girls. it is unconscionable today that we are still dealing with the issues of sexual exploitation. of women and girls. my peacekeeping forces are given within the humanitarian community. it is unconscionable that today,

we are still dealing with rape as a tool of war. i shared with the group that in the 1990's, i was working with sonali refugees who escaped somalia and were in the refugee camp. and so molly women -- sonali women were dealing with issues of women who were victims of violence and we had a whole program for victims of violence. and how do we address rape as a tool of war. in the 1990's. it did not start then, it did not ended now that it has not ended now because just yesterday, we are talking about ukrainian women, who have been victims of rape in this unconscionable war that the russians are carrying out against the ukrainian people. heard an ethiopian civil society voice, an african, talk about in

ethiopia, women who were victims of rape in that war. so it still continues today and we have to be prepared to address it, wherever we see it. and we have to call it out. and we have to call out countries -- out of embarrassment or whatever -- whenever they deny it, they cannot deny it. what they have to do is hold their people accountable for engaging in these actions. and we have to hold countries accountable for holding their people accountable. for these actions. and we have to give voice to the women who have been victims of this issue. you can tell, for yemen, this is an issue that is something that is important to me. we have to give these women their voices. and not let them be victimized twice, by not allowing them to hold their perpetrators

accountable. mr. coulibaly: thank you for that. and the next question is from anna, who is the director. why is the u.s. condemning russia and inputting sanctions because of ukraine? why is it turning a blind eye on israel despite obligation -- occupation of palestinian land. ms. thomas-greenfield: we condemn atrocities wherever they happen. but we also strongly support israel's right to exist. and the unfair targeting of israel within the united nations and across the world. the biden administration has been clear that we support a two state solution. and we have encouraged that here

at the united nations and in our conversations both in israel and with the palestinians. and since i have been here, i have traveled to israel and i have also traveled to the west bank and met with both sides on this issue. and clearly, we need to find a solution that provides peace and security for the israeli people, but also security and safety for the palestinian people within their own borders. so this is something that we have been clear on throughout, but again, here in the united nations, we have been absolutely, categorically supportive of israel's right to exist. and we have fought against the unfair targeting of israel within the united nations. mr. coulibaly: ok. and the final question comes from steve brent, he is a principal at management systems. he said based on president zelenskyy declaring the world

peace organization is obsolete in his speech to the u.s. congress, do you support a design of a new process that explains this cause of why we fight and offers opposition to motivate? ms. thomas-greenfield: president zelenskyy didn't just sit out in front of congress, he said that to the security council when he spoke to the security council. and i certainly appreciate and understand his frustrations. his country is being attacked, people are being killed, cities are being demolished, hospitals with children are being attacked , and he asked a question that none of us denied him. and that is why is the u.n. not at war to stop this? we have done, from the start, we have made every effort to

isolate the russians, to put pressure on the russians, and to help the russians find a diplomatic solution to have a voice in this war. we have supported the ukrainian government throughout this, both in terms of funding. i just heard coming into this meeting that we have now another nearly billion dollars of support for ukraine. but the united nations has to remain strong in calling out russia and holding russia accountable. it was not an easy task and suspending russia from the human rights council. so the united nations and member states have supported ukraine and we will continue to support ukraine and do everything possible to bring this war to an end. we are supporting the ukrainian

prosecutors efforts to gain evidence to bring against the russian war crimes. and we call it war crimes. we will do everything possible to hold the russians accountable. mr. coulibaly: thank you, madame and acid are. -- madame ambassador. we're getting close to the end of our time, so you can resume your agenda as you head back to the u.n.. do you have any parting thoughts you would like to share with the audience? ms. thomas-greenfield: the united nations is the best tool that we have multilaterally. to address issues of peace and security around the globe. it is not perfect. reforms are needed, changes need to be made.

but we can still work as an institution to hold countries accountable, to support those countries like ukraine and to support the people around the world who look to the united nations, and sometimes, they are just looking to hear that we have not forgotten them. and that is something that we do on a regular basis. so we are committed to helping this organization to improve, to helping to build its capacity, to address peace and security issues as they are presented to us on a regular basis. and none of us can guess where the next part of this will be. we are dealing with a crisis of today and the crisis of yesterday. we do not know what the crisis of tomorrow will be, but we will keep working to try to be prepared to address those crises as they are presented to us.

so thank you so much for inviting me and giving me this opportunity. i look forward to continuing to represent the interests of the united states, but also the interests of the world. to find peaceful solutions to all of these crisis situations that we are dealing with today. mr. coulibaly: thank you so much. we are also very grateful for your leadership and service to the country and the world. at a very critical moment, so thank you again ambassador we really appreciate you taking the time of the security council meeting today to be with us. we really appreciate it. thank you. ms. thomas-greenfield: thank you very much. appreciate you as well. >> all this month watch the top 21 winning videos from our c-span viewer cam video

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