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>> it's time to meet the candidates. these are the democratic candidates for the u.s. senate from pennsylvania that are participating in tonight's spotlight pa debate. you may applaud, as each candidate is introduced. going left to right. lieutenant governor john fetterman. [applause] state representative malcolm kenyatta. [applause] councilwoman alexandria khalil. [applause] and congressman conor lamb. [applause] i'm going to take a seat as we go over the rules. now, i mentioned applauding as

we were introducing the candidates but one of the rules we have throughout the 90 minutes of the debate is that you hold your applause or cheering or reacting until the end of the debate. candidates are allotted 62nd opening statements and a 62nd closing statement. most of the debate is divided into a series of topics with a question posed to a specific candidate followed by each of the candidates answering the same question. the moderator and the questioners are permitted to ask follow-up questions. candidates must wait to be asked a question by the moderator or a question or, must be caught on open discussion before speaking. we will have each candidate answer in order. candidates may not interrupt other candidates or moderators. they are allotted 30 seconds to

respond but only after the moderator calls on them. let me introduce you to our journalist tonight. the candidates will be questioned by the journalist, julia, of the philadelphia inquirer. paul, of trip life. an ev of penn life. [applause] notice we have three women journalists asking questions tonight. so, we will start by having the candidates make their opening statements and we will go left to right, before we start asking the questions. lieutenant governor, john fetterman, you have 60 seconds. mr. fetterman: hello everybody. i am john fetterman and i'm running for the united states senate here in our beautiful commonwealth. i would like to point out that running for the u.s. senate here is a statewide affair. i am the only candidate on the

democratic or republican side that has run in one state here in pennsylvania. i'm running a campaign based on core democratic values, like making sure our minimum wage is something you can live on with dignity and security, that holding up the universal voting rights and protections is critical to maintaining our democracy and making sure we push back against the big lie. women's reproductive freedom is a nonnegotiable as a sacred right. the union way of life and promoting union values is absolutely critical, not only to our middle class but to our country as a whole as well. if you trust me with your vote in may you will also always have my vote in washington dc we are running a true grassroots campaign across pennsylvania in every one of the 67 counties. rep. kenyatta: thank you, good evening. i'm excited to be here. most pennsylvanians will agree

with me that the senate is broken. it turns out, if you want to change the senate, you have to change the senators. in this moment, we need more than just another politician asking for your vote. we need somebody who understands your life. i grew up in a working or family in north philadelphia. my dad was a social worker and my mom was a home health care aide. they separated when i was young. so what that meant for me is, i learned a six different places by the time i graduated high school. i got my first job at 12, washing this is -- dishes at a soul food restaurant and i watched my mom worked 12-16 hours a day, come home after making sure the folks she served got their medicine on time only to have to ration her insulin. if we're going to win this race we're going to need a candidate that can go anywhere and everywhere and speak with the level urgency and authenticity about what is broken. i look forward to being the

candidate. thank you. councilwoman khalil: good evening pennsylvania it is a great honor to be here. my name is alexandria khalil, call me alex. i am the daughter of palestinian immigrants. i am the counselor, the mom of a dyslexic son, an activist, lawyer and a worker. i can tell you the reason i am running is because i am one of you. every day i go up, i held the business, i have gone up to businesses that are no longer here. they are bankrupt, gone, the jobs have been sent abroad. one of the greatest things that has happened to me since i started this race as i got to know pennsylvania. i got to know that you are an amazing state and every day is a special moment when i am in your

company and pleasure. i want to tell you, between philadelphia and pittsburgh, is a society and country, the state is rich and generous and kind. i hope you will consider me in the primary. thank you very much. congressman lamb: thank you very much for watching these debates and breathe life into our democracy. we very badly need it. people all over the state can afford less and less on the same paycheck and same social security check. the future of our democracy may depend on the struggles that they are going through right now. if i will run a campaign that is focused on making your social security check bigger, beyond what medicare can take away. i will talk about how this specific job, my vote in the senate, can make the price of drugs go down. make out of pockets -- pocket costs go down, student loan debt go down, childcare cost down, 7%

of what you earn every month. you would not be nominating a twitter account, with me. i have gotten results on every single one of those results mentioned in the house of representatives. that is why democrats and swing voters have voted for me three times. they will do it again if you give me the chance. >> we are going to get into our questioning now. the candidates have 60 seconds to respond. there could be some follow-ups as we go along. representative kenyatta, we're going to start with you. julia will ask the first question. julia: even some democratic economist said the biden administration spent too much and his policies have contribute into inflation. do you agree and what specific policies would you support in the senate to combat inflation? rep. kenyatta: thank you so much for that question. folks at home have heard this over and over again. whenever we invest in working

people, and actual people, you hear how it is unaffordable and does not make sense. you did not hear that when it was time to bail out the big banks, or when it is time to give another tax break to someone who was well-connected. when we do things like the child tax credit which lifted millions of kids out of the poverty, you hear hemming and halloween from people who are fine with the status quo. here's the reality. i want to hear from the economists what they think we ought not invest in. do they think we should not do anything about the cost of childcare? should we ignore the fact that people are paying more the pump, should we do nothing about that? i'm not sure what investments they think we made in the american rescue plan that did not make sense. we want to lower costs and build things here at home. we have to make sure we are increasing people's paychecks and that is what i'm going to do at the u.s. senate. >> follow-up for just a second.

the question was, did that investment, contribute to inflation? rep. kenyatta: i don't think that's true. your sing inflation across the world. every country did not make the same investments we did in the american rescue plan. the things we want to do, you take a look at the american innovation and competition act, that is something that would help us build our things at home that would deal with some of the supply chain issues that have led to rising costs. the pandemic has led to rising cost as well. what i have been talking about is how do we lower costs for prescription drugs, childcare, health care. these are things i can help people in their pocketbooks. councilwomen khalil: excellent points. i want to point out, to answer your question no i do not. what you have not asked is about is gouging. this weekend, i met a gentleman who was an independent.

he said to me, biden lost me. i go, why? what is he doing about inflation and gas pricing? and i said you understand there is price gouging going on. and he said, why is he not doing something about it? that is why we have inflation we have rice gouging going on and no one is calling out the enormous -- price gouging going on and no one is calling out the bonuses ceos and profitability ceos are getting. no company has gone bankrupt during this inflation. on the contrary, we are seeing a record profits and ceo pay. who is paying the american people are paying. they are paying through gas. i'm here to tell the president and i myself will act very decisively. go after the price counters. >> i just said time but i will follow up. what evidence do you have that

there is price gouging? councilwomen khalil: when you have more profits. we are more profitable, our companies are more profitable and ceo pay is higher now than it was before the pandemic. before even wages were high. seven dollars an hour, $10 an hour, inflation, their profits are higher now. that is price gouging. >> congressman an, -- lamb, 60 seconds, whether you think the biden administration expects too much. how would you get it under control? congressman lamb: i voted for the cares act, covid relief money on the american rescue plan, that infuse a lot of money into the american economy at the time where we needed it. there is a debate right now among these academic types about whether the ration is driven by supply, meaning the pandemic and the war. two things that are no one's fault in the room or the government or driven by the

extra money that came as an extra result of the pandemic. it is a valid debate. there are strong points. what i would come back to is in january of 2021, nobody knew what turns were left in the road of the pandemic. how many people would be left out of work with no on a plum in benefits, how many people would get evicted if they did not get the last stimulus check. i was ask republicans, what would you have done? we note the -- we know they would've taken the people -- the money away from the people who need it the most. that is where we have to talk about the cost we can control and the fact that we are trying to raise taxes to shrink the deficit. >> lieutenant governor federman. -- fettrman. mr. fetterman: i'm going to say no. i believe, i'm going to come down to the side of investments in the middle class and families. that is what the american rescue

plan was predicated on, making these investments on whether it was childcare or structure to make sure that people were being upper lee supported during the pandemic -- properly supported during the pandemic. inflation is a tax on working families. the biden administration understands this and is taking all of the appropriate steps to continue to attack it. the most important thing we can do is drive down the cost of fuel prices. people notice that when they fill up their vehicles. suspending the gas tax and making sure we produce more energy of our own here in the u.s. also, we are developing a sense of inflation as well because of the logistical log jam, because we are not making enough stuff here in the country. we must create more manufacturing to straighten out the logistical and supply chain issues that help contribute to this inflation logjam. >> thank you. we have our next question and it goes to alexandria khalil. >> president biden said in a

state of the union address that the answer to rising violent crime is not to defund the police or to fund police. what specific policies would you support in the senate to fight crime and gun violence? councilwomen khalil: i do not support defunding the police. i support renewal of the economic and mental health of a community. we need to do that. we need to bring back jobs, as all of my colleagues have talked about. we have to start there. we have to bring back and invest in mental health care. we have to invest in our schools and education. we need to have pennsylvanians, especially those who are committing the crime, to have faith and hope again in our society. we have to crackdown on crime, we need to get tough on crime.

we can remember that we can fight crime and work on criminal justice. i think we can sit back and properly fund our police, make sure they are paid well, make sure their pensions are paid and make sure that our schools are properly funded and there is job training and community centers are open and we can invest in our communities. by doing that we can sit back and fight crime. >> to support a federal assault weapon ban, and how would that be enforced? councilwomen khalil: i do not support assault weapons. i support a ban. i do not want to take away those who already own their assault weapons. i would like to do a buyback, if possible. if you bought your own assault weapon legally, i'm not taking what people's arms. i do not want us to go out and some more. but if you bought it legally i have no problem with that. i would like to see locks on guns and safes. i would like to see proper educations in terms of guns, but

that's not the issue. you talk about assault weapons, what we are singer handguns. >> let me follow up on that. we talk about the number of gunowners in the state. one thing the one think -- one thing someone who was familiar with weapons, what is an assault weapon? councilwomen khalil: they are military style weapons. we have a second amendment right to own a gun. to me it is not owning -- to meet -- the illegal sale of guns, gun trafficking those are the things we need to be focused on. how is a 14-year-old getting that gun? that is what we need to ask ourselves. what is the situation? in my mind, a 15-year-old, 18-year-old, 19-year-old is committing this. >> the president was right when he said that, as far as -- i

feel an obligation to say that the only people who ever voted against funding and the police were the republican parties, when they voted against the american rescue plan that had $350 billion for local government. which in my home county, went to the police. that was overtime money and it police our money. as far as what we need to do about violent crime, there is a shift that has to take place where we focused a lot more on firearm trafficking. almost all of the serious shootings that you read about in our inner cities are committed by someone who is not legally entitled to possess the firearm. ice to prosecute these cases for living -- i use to prosecute these cases for living. i want to get on the committee to help increase the budget for the atf and training and resources available in that agency to take that on. >> --mr. fetterman: i am the

only republican on the others that has been in charge of a police department, for 14 years as the mayor. i fought to increase their wages and ensure their benefits. i fought to increase budgets consistently for your. i am incredibly proud of the work we achieved working together. we have a community that had a significant gun violence program, and the thing i was most proud of as a mayor, was stopping all homicides for a peer ebay -- a period of five-and-a-half years. we did it by creating a affect -- an effective police model, we had to make investments in the police force and make sure we are practicing the best kind of community policing to get there. i am proud to say was reelected four times for a 75% black, that had a deep suspicion of our

police department to go five-and-a-half years without a loss of life through a very effective strategy of adding resources to the community, but effective police strategies as well. >> let me ask you before that five-and-a-half year period, how many homicides did it have on average each year? mr. fetterman: you can always add it, it is a small community. it is about 75% black and it was written off as a hopeless place. i came there to teach ged classes to students. i ended up getting into my running for public office because to my students were gunned down. it was common to have these kind of murders. that is what got invited -- violence brought me into my career public service. >> how many homicides in a year? mr. fetterman: a couple every year. rep. kenyatta: thank you so much. i sort of reject this notion, as a black man in this country,

that the only two options i have is to have no police or to have police core not held accountable, when they do something they should not do, specifically as we have seen tragic instances of police violence. what i want is the cs making investments in things that actually make -- is the invest that i talk about all the type -- you have a health care, affordable prescription drug that you can retire with the level of dignity. communities that have the things i laid out, those are safer communities. if we want safer communities we need to invest in people and make sure they have good jobs and stable housing. those are things that deal with the root cause of crime. we need to pass many common sense gun safety measures, including a number of which i voted for, and introduced. >> let me follow up on that.

what you just laid out, about jobs, education, investing in, the community we have known that for a long time, most people have known that for a long time. we are in an emergency right now. we are setting records for the number of homicides in allegheny county had a horrific incident a couple of weeks ago. what can you do in the senate? which of the senate, the president, what should they be doing right now? rep. kenyatta: we have known what to do for a long time. that is a problem with washington, d.c.. we are not at a lack of good ideas, but a lack of political leadership. it is interesting what you heard the lieutenant governor say. he talked about the community leasing model. if he is not the mayor, the model does not work. he says you have never seen it since he left. i want to understand it, what you are doing that was not actually a policy proposal, that

lasted beyond your time in office. his important for people to know that the woman who are placed you as mayor endorsed me. >> since he mentioned you in particular, lieutenant governor. mr. fetterman: you made a good point. what i would do, first of all we need to eliminate the filibuster in the senate. if you want comprehensive gun control legislation in the senate you have to eliminate the filibuster otherwise you are waiting on 10 republicans to vote, but the democrats to make sure we do not have weapons of war that is first and foremost. we actually created -- we open playgrounds and basketball courts. we had a balance report. >> i will say indirect. >> they have their own police department and i sit on a public

safety committee. i understand police department. councilwomen khalil: 36,000 people drive through the twon every day. we have our own trade stations and buses. so what does that mean? we believe it community policing. our police officers are out there. we properly fund our police department their pay. we make sure, that her schools are properly funded and our kids go to college. >> we asked this of congressman lamb. >> ken russia's ongoing war in the ukraine -- what is your position of sending troops there? would you support the agreement that requires the u.s. to said nato allies with? congressman lamb: it has existed

since long before i was congressman -- when we were attacked on 9/11, they were spotted by setting their troops to 9/11 to risk their lives for us. if data country gets attacked -- if a nato country gets attacked, you are going to believe i will support said u.s. troops. they are sitting in poland, romania, all of these places because if america is your friend, that is what you get. there is the worst at a be. with respect to ukraine, the stated policy of our government should be that we should help ukrainians with the work. ed said puts it at his army back. we are gradually at leading to the type of military we give them. vehicles, artillery, drones, antiaircraft weapons. we increase that and use better resources. the key is we do not give up. councilwomen khalil: i would

like to follow up on that. while you mention the notion of america continuing to escalate to win -- to help ukraine win. you did not answer the question if you believe troops from eunice should go to ukraine -- u.s. should go to ukraine? congressman lamb: you asked if i felt troops from nato should go which i answered. right now, that is not called for. it is not needed. what they need from us as a military aid that would get worse. if russia attacks a nato ally in the course of its attack on ukraine, it is a different situation. the requirement to defend our nato allies, good have a said troops to all sorts of places but that is not the situation we are in. >> lieutenant government fetterman. mr. fetterman: we should not be sending american troops to ukraine. we should help the ukraine people during their unjust

invasion and war of aggression from russia. but we cannot and president biden has done an excellent job on this, risk engaging in a hot war with russia. we can't afford to take that risk. the bottom line is we can add a humanitarian aid. we could add some weapon systems, but if we are mindful, we need to remember we are here to help ukrainians and nothing would harm them more than us flying into a hot war, having troops on the ground in ukraine and escalating into world war iii. >> nato? would you support nato? mr. fetterman: as congressman lamb pointed out, the pre-existing conditions of nato have existed for longer than the organization has. >> representative kenyatta. rep. kenyatta: article five, we negotiated it, we have the standby it.

if putin is reckless enough to go into a nato country, that would make this crisis even worse. if you look at what is happening now, vladimir putin is paying a real cost for his barbaric and senseless war. what we need is a rationing down of tensions and pressure. what we need is a cease fire. we do that by continuing the approach that the biden administration has taken. that is why i am so proud to have endorsed them on the day he announced earlier than anyone on the stage because i believe to be ready for a moment like this, where he has brought together our nato allies. last week they sent even more resources to ukraine to make sure they can defend themselves and push back on president zelenskyy in a press conference today, he talked about the number of areas ukrainian forces have recaptured. this was a big mistake on the part of vladimir putin. what i call for is the expansion of nato, especially with finland. >> let's go to councilwomen

khalil. councilwomen khalil: i agree with their stance there. i do not believe we should send troops to the ukraine. one of the things i want to point out in speaking to the community, i have gone out to the rural areas and montgomery county, philadelphia, everyone supports helping ukraine. one of the things that has struggled out of americans, is when it comes to helping americans, then they are told go to cologne. -- go take a loan. there is an area that was floated, an area in philadelphia that was flooded. they are told, if you have a small business you have to garden to cologne. -- you have to go out and take a loan. no one says that is bad. no one. but you just asked here about the rising cost of inflation because we were helping americans.

i would like us, everyone to remember when it comes to helping americans, let us be ok with helping fellow americans,. >> our next question will be asked by the philadelphia inquirer to the tenant government fetterman. >> the u.s. supreme court appears poised to weaken roe v. wade. texas has been most abortions in the state and the core signals and may uphold the mississippi law that man's abortion after 15 weeks of press -- pregnancy. what policies of the senate would you protect you -- to abortion access? mr. fetterman: great question. let me just say i am profoundly proud to be the first line of defense in the veto chain in pennsylvania should governor wolf be unable to perform his duty to strike down these texas laws that the state legislature constantly sends us.

a woman's reproductive freedom is sacred. we can never go backwards on that regard. if i am in the united states senate i would immediately support the first campaign to support the lamination of the filibuster, to make sure we codify women's reproductive freedom in law to make sure that even if the supreme court does go down that road and eliminate, or revoke roe v. wade, we have already codify that into law and make sure we cannot go back. abortions are going to continue in america, whether it is legal or not. they just will not be safe if they are legal. we cannot ever go back to that. >> are there any limits on abortion you would find appropriate? mr. fetterman: i believe it is between a woman and her physician. it is not between me or any politician. we settled this decades ago. the fact that the states are trying to repeal it, we have to

push back against that because it has started in texas. also, i am proud to say if i am voting on the supreme court justice, that is the core litmus test, roe v. wade and the sanctity of women's reproductive freedom must always come first. it is nonnegotiable. >> that means if someone says they question roe v. wade they do not have your vote. mr. fetterman: they don't. if they don't support it, they would not earn my vote. i feel that strongly that women's reproductive freedom and how settled of a case law it is in the ninth it's. -- in the united states it is. rep. kenyatta: this is where being a legislator matters. i would introduce legislation to deal with the fact that there is so many in and says right now only pennsylvania where there are barriers to women being able to have access to basic health

care. this is health care. at the federal level we need to pass women's health protection act. myself, and the cochair of the women's caucus, introduced legislation called the pennsylvania women's health protection act to get rid of the barriers that currently exist, for pennsylvania women under current law. the states have been the battleground for this issue for a long time. because the supreme court has refused to step in and uphold decades of law, they have technically already overruled roe v. wade. so, whether it was as an activist, or the first male elected to the national organizations for women in philadelphia, i have already set up for this basic right and i will every step of the way. when it comes to any limitation, there is always a limit. but it is between a woman and her doctor, not us. >> since the lieutenant governor brought us up -- but it up. mr. fetterman: yes it's a litmus

test. [laughter] councilwomen khalil: it has to be a woman to discuss this issue. it helps to be a daughter of a woman. you asked about late-term abortions because i would like to start their. when i was a little girl, my mother was pregnant and the child had water in the brain. the doctors told my mom, my mother's life was at risk. it was health care. my mom -- my mom is the most devout woman and she said absolutely not. this is, where else what i do? i agree with my colleagues. my mother was offered amazing care. she was put in the hospital and we were little. 5, 4, 3. we were given a nurse to take care of us, to take us to school. to me, it's not -- it is real, it happened to my family.

and my mom made a decision, which was her choice. from there, the state of new york truly showed what pro-choice is all about. i would make sure that we have prenatal care. >> let me follow-up. and ask all of you this question. litmus test? councilwomen khalil: definitely. you think about what happened to my mom, she had a choice she would say yes. either way she was -- if she did not have it and get the care, she would have died. yes, abortion rights are health care. it must be included with pre-and postnatal care. and must be included with nutrition and what happens when a family has an emergency and need someone to care for their small children while the mother is in the hospital trying to give birth. we have a ridiculously high women mortality rate in pennsylvania. >> congressman lamb. congressman lamb: the first time i ran for office it was a congressional district that trump one, and heavily favored

republicans. the week before the election of writer jumped out at me on the street and stuck a microphone in my space and said you have not said where you stand on late-term abortion. in -- my extinct of answer was if a right isn't right, it is a right the whole way through pregnancy. that has always been my position. this is a constitutional right women have and deserve to have an deserve to continue to have. the question in this campaign is not just -- is who can get through this election a year in 2022, win this race in cash that vote. without winning this senate seat, there will be no women's health protection act, no repeal of the amendment, none. we will not even get to put another justice on the supreme court while joe biden is president. those are the stakes, they are high. >> we will continue to think about that. question for everyone.

litmus test for super important nominee. congressman lamb: it is settled constitutional law. roe v. wade is that, so is the right to get a miranda warning when you're arrested. they are all at the same level of strength, meaning they have been upheld tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands in the last 50 years. this is settled and should remain the same. i would only vote for justice that supported. >> we're going to do something different, changing out from our questions from our journalists. we call this a lightning round. 30 seconds, as opposed to 60 to answer question. representative kenyatta it is your turn first. if you can ask one of your opponents a question what would it be? rep. kenyatta: it would be the question i asked john a couple of days ago. of whether or not the lieutenant governor is going to apologize here in carlisle.

maybe you have a change of heart for chasing down an unarmed black man, holding it down to his chest. i'm not going to hold my breath for john's answer, i'm sure he will not apologize. but here's the problem. powerful men like john are used to having to play by a different set of rules. he was held accountable as the mayor and he is trying not to be held accountable now. mr. fetterman: that is not what happened. i want everyone to understand how personal the issue of gun violence was to me. braddock is 75% black community that had significant gun violence programs. i ran for mayor because two of my students were gunned down in a violent way. during my time as mayor, and proud to say we addressed the stop the killing, because i always believed the community polices. >> did you point the gun at the

man's chest? mr. fetterman: i did not. >> he says you did. rep. kenyatta: also the police report at the time said it. you do not have to take my word for it. with powerful folks like john, any kind of an ability feels like persecution. he is not the victim at the time he said he thought he committed a crime and then he uses his reelection in product as another justification for why he has to apologize -- does not have to apologize. he had 186 votes. mr. fetterman: let me be clear. i was reelected in an overwhelming fashion in a community of 75% black people. i do not know why you want to diminish a large landslide. the point is, the people that reelected me know that is not what this is about. i never pointed the weapon and anyone. everyone in town understood that protection of the community was always in my heart. that is what it was always

about. >> councilwoman khalil, you can ask anyone a question. councilwomen khalil: what would you do -- to representative kenyatta. you want to and fracking. what do you propose -- what kind of energy source would you use for manufacturing and keeping manufacturing in pennsylvania. rep. kenyatta: thank you for asking that question. for folks at home if you want an environmental champion eyes or neck there's only one person on the stage for you -- champion, there's only one person on the stage for you. we know across the country, we have 9000 plus permits approved where there is no drilling.

companies who already have those underlings, -- permits they can do more drilling's if they want to. we have to stop asking of big polluters care about the workers, they don't give a dam about their workers. councilwomen khalil: i asked how you were -- no it was about what we do about manufacturing? we need energy to manufacture. we don't currently have -- if you get rid of the fact -- if we get rid of oil how are we going to keep jobs in pennsylvania? >> will you answer that? rep. kenyatta: no. >> congressman? congressman lamb: my question is also for the lieutenant governor. one of my grave concerns is i do not believe he can appeal to the types of swing voters we need to win in november. these are the people i have been campaigning around for the last four years. they have elected me in districts that favor republicans. they play a role in a midterm election like this one.

they do not like chaos or instability. they are very concerned about both inflation and the overall size of the national debt. my question for john a simple, a yes or no. do you still support medicare for all, would you vote for the bill? mr. fetterman: thank you, connor. i support universal health care and health care is the basic fundamental human right. i support whatever means to get us there, whether that is the affordable care act or the public option or medicare for all. i am for allowing congress and the federal government to negotiate for lower drug vices. i am for adding vision, dental and hearing. i am for making sure americans have greater access to health care. >> to his question, medicare for all? mr. fetterman: i answered that. whatever mechanism gets us

closer to health care, as a fundamental human right. if he wants to be for the insurance company that is his right. but i am for health care and making sure it is a fundamental human rights or every american. making sure we can negotiate for better drug prices is at the heart of that. >> he said yes, no. when you say adding closer does that mean it medicare for all? mr. fetterman: it means whatever is in front of us as the congress to get greater access to health care for americans. my vote is decisive. i would support it. councilwomen khalil: i support it. i support medicare for all. i can answer it. this weekend i was -- i met a woman who did not have health care. that is real. that is not a joke. >> lieutenant government --

governor, it is your opportunity to ask a question of one of the panel members. mr. fetterman: conor, how do you feel about your -- about joe manchin endorsing you? and would you vote similarly to him in the senate? my fear is that i think we have one joe manchin and that is enough in the senate. his endorsement of view in this race i found troubling. i absolutely disagree with his voting record. congressman lamb: to be honest, when john said that i am not sure what he is referring to. when i was a member of congress, i have fundraisers with many senators, including senator manchin. not a senate candidate -- when i was a member of congress not a

senate candidate. we both have voting records. i voted for the john lewis voting rights act, to get rid of the filibuster, i voted for the women's protection act, and i voted to raise the minimum wage and i voted for the build back better act. mr. fetterman: joe manchin is c onor's mentor. he said recently he would make a heck of a senator. that is an endorsement. i am saying do you embrace joe manchin's endorsement of you in 2020. i am asking you, yes or no do you embrace the joe manchin's endorsement? congressman lamb: you are having is heart of a time asking questions as -- having a heart of a talk -- you're having a hard time asking questions as answering. i accepted his endorsement then. my voting record is what it is. i will work with any democrat to get things done.

>> yes or no, same rules. congressman lamb: the question is factually incorrect but if you are asking if i would support the support of a democratic senator, i was absolutely. mr. fetterman: joe manchin said he would make a heck of a senator, do you endorsement? >> people want to know what we are going to do, as an x senator. you do not need to know -- vote for either of them. councilwomen khalil: joe manchin, this is really important. why bring up joe manchin? he has been the state senator, the governor, and the u.s. senator for west virginia. he has driven it into the ground. we must not allow that to happen for pennsylvania. we must lift pennsylvania and make sure we clean up our state. we bring back jobs, improve education.

pennsylvanians will go up in the quality of life and not go down. we cannot -- not become west virginia. >> on this question it is a little different. i'm going to ask for you to raise your hands. a yes/no question. for democracy related questions. i believe this goes to representative kenyatta. rep. kenyatta: i will take it. >> oh, that's right. the moderator screws up too. i'm going to ask for questions about democracy and get you to raise your hand. raise your hand if you support the positions or issues i mentioned and we will discuss. raise your hand if you support abolishing the electoral college. rep. kenyatta: this is as a group right? >> yes. we will go back, eliminating the

senate filibuster. expanding the number of justices on the u.s. supreme court. making the district of columbia and puerto rico u.s. states. let's go back to where there was some disagreement. abolishing the electoral college. representative kenyatta why do you want to abolish it? rep. kenyatta: for folks at home who care about it, you only have one option on the stage. the electoral college serves no purpose, other than to continue to muddy up this idea that there should be one person and one vote. i will tell you on the stage, if anyone of us gets one more vote than the other person, that person will be the democratic nominee. yet with the electoral college, we see multiple elections, where the person who got the most votes, did not become president. that is a problem.

it arose people's faith in our elections. >> lieutenant governor fetterman, why don't you want to abolish the electoral vote? mr. fetterman: we are democrats. we can't be in a position where we are contradicting ourselves. if we go after the republicans, they are frustrated by an outcome and then they go to delegitimize it or change the structure of it as he attempted to do with their own supreme court hearing in pennsylvania, the change the underlying rules. i believe we as a party determine logically consistent on these things. we need to make sure we are not changing the structure of our government in -- at a fundamental level, whether we like the outcome or not. l councilwomen khalil: no i do not believe in abolishing the electoral college. president obama, a man of mixed race won, twice. he won the electoral college on

the popular vote. bill clinton one as well. you win elections and you lose elections. we cannot lacked -- act like the last president and get upset and changed electoral college. joe biden won the electoral college and the popular vote. what is more important, that are candidate speak clearly -- are candidate speak clearly. congressman lamb: it would make a lot of sense not to have an electoral college, but we have one, and to get rid of it we would have to amend the constitution. it is not happening, and makes discussion completely academic in my view. rep. kenyatta: to suggest that abolishing the electoral college, which is a relic of the past, which has not served us is the same as trump trying to overturn the last election. i find it pretty offensive. it makes no sense. this idea that we are democrats and we do not try to change

anything or well within the constitution, therefore it is hard, so we should not change anything, that does not make a lot of sense. the constitution has mechanisms by which it can be changed because our founders understood it was a living and breathing document. there's a lot of stuff that needs to change and that is what we should do is democrats. >> expanding the number of justices on the supreme court. can i see your hands again? so it is just the two of you? councilwomen khalil: you can call me that. i would tell you the reason, everyone who argues for democrats, what happens is this particular supreme court has decided and wants to overturn everything, from the new deal. their desire is that the way of life, they want to overturn, they have been planning this for a long time. federalist society, they have

been planning to go ahead and erode the entire new deal of philosophies and policies, social security, medicare. >> representative kenyatta. rep. kenyatta: this is not a new idea. i wish i could take credit for it but i can't. we have expanded the number of justices on the bench multiple times to the history of our country. i think it was mitch mcconnell, not democrats who pack the court. when mitch mcconnell did not allow president obama to appoint someone when it was his turn. to ram through amy coney barrett in opposition of the same rule he made up to deny president obama seat on the bench. the supreme court has its lowest public trust and it never has had. >> lieutenant government fetterman, why don't you support it? mr. fetterman: it's the same logic. the republicans were outraged, they were unhappy with the judgments of the supreme court here in pennsylvania now they

wanted to change our constitution to change how it was elected that would almost guarantee we would have a permanent republican supreme court hearing in pennsylvania. the democratic party does not rig the rules because we do not like the outcome. i wish we had a 6-3 democratic majority in the supreme court. the fact is that we don't. i do not believe altering the structure of the supreme court is the answer. >> congressman lamb. congressman lamb: i think this whole question is a trap. one of the things i'm trying to convey here as i spent years answering questions at town hall, the exact type of people who are going to determine whether we are successful or fail this year. i never had a single one of them asked me to add a to the supreme court. people are looking for stability and practicality in our priorities. adding justices to the supreme court is completely over their head. every moment we are not talking of heat -- talking about people

is a waste of time. councilwomen khalil: i have to agree. if roe v. wade is overturned, if they start attacking, what we see going on in voting rights, the environment, the clean water act, if they start going after medicare, if they start going after social security, there's a lot of things. >> archie doing what they are saying? -- aren't you doing what they are saying? councilwomen khalil: no one hears fdr. he wanted to do it to. he was a great democrat who did great things for this country. you are right, no one is asking it. what did fdr do, he said if you would not allow us to help the marking people, i'm going to help the american people. >> representative kenyatta. rep. kenyatta: i think there's a couple of things being said here that are fundamentally false. we are not going to win this election my only going to doors

in western pennsylvania that the congressman keeps represent the -- mentioning. the doors we need to be focusing on are the doors that are in philadelphia and south eastern pennsylvania, the base of our party. we keep acting as if the folks who show up democrats every election are somehow not is worth fighting for, as some other folks. we are going to win this election [voices overlapping] c-span is your unfiltered view of going to go back toward >> president biden recently walked back a campaign pledge to end new drilling on public land, do you agree and how do you see pennsylvania's role in the natural gas economy? >> i'm going to have to agree with candidate. what i do support is releasing more petroleum out of that

reserve. but i do support is making sure we don't give one sense more in tax breaks to big polluters and put our investments in clean technologies of the future. what i have said repeatedly is that a part of the increase people are feeling at the pump, the sheetz down the street, $4.09 when i passed it. they are not passing on the savings to the consumers. there are number of bills people are talking about in washington to make sure they cannot do the type of greedy, practices that have allowed companies like shell and bp to make more money than they have ever made while still charging you more. flex time. >> what steps would you take to ease the burden to americans at

the pump? rep. kenyatta: the strategic petroleum reserve. there are already permits that have been approved, so folks believe there needs to be more drilling and extraction. there are permits folks can already is. i think we have to look at this in the short, medium and long term. in the short term, spr carried in the long term, we need to make sure pennsylvania is the place were we are modernizing our buildings, building electric cars, leaning into the green energy future that everyone will tell you we need. >> councilwoman khalil? councilwoman khalil: what can we do now. i support the president because of the situation we are in. the reason we are in the situation is we are not thinking smart about how to use the tax code. for example, i think it is $.50 per mile for mileage.

that usually does to small businesses. i would like to see that extended for the average employee. where you would sit back and file a quarterly statement so you could get some money back from your taxes for your gas mileage. that would be one. i would increase it to truck drivers they have a larger deduction. what is the current technology that helps us save gas? there's idle technology that is used in texas and ohio. we have the money, it is green technology, we should provide grants to truck drivers, to americans to install this technology. >> time. rep. lamb: i support the administration's policy. we drill for both oil and natural gas. both of those things have been taken off the world market in

enormous quantities because of the work in ukraine. europe, u.s., we are not buying putin's oil and gas anymore. now not only do we have a challenge supplying ourselves, we made specific commitments to help not only ukraine but all our nato allies try to replace that oil and natural gas, which we can only do by increasing production. talk about repealing the federal gas tax and clean technologies of the future at some great, not one of those will result in you walking out one day and sing a lower price at the gas pump or home utility bills. you cannot increase production if we don't do with the administration is doing. lt. gov. fetterman: i do support the president and his decision to do what he did. i've never taken a dime and campaign contributions from the extractive industries, ever. we need to make sure we maintain and enhance our energy security.

we have seen how fragile that could be on the world age with the russian invasion of ukraine. we can never be at the whim of a country like russia or iran or venezuela for energy. i spoke to members from the german embassy two weeks ago. they said they've got us over a barrel. we are reliant on their energy. we can not be at their mercy. i support american energy, we need to transition and make investments to make green american energy. right now, our energy security is paramount, particularly in the world that has been stabilized by the words in ukraine. i do support the release of the strategic petroleum reserves extending the dock -- gas tax. councilwoman khalil: can i add one quick thing? moderator: you will get a closing statement. we will never get to all our questions. i do have a good follow-up for

the lieutenant governor. he mentioned about the suspending the federal gas tax. lt. gov. fetterman: i do. i support that. i believe that will immediately make an impact. moderator: $.18? lt. gov. fetterman: just single mother with two kids, that really matters. we need to be concerned with exxon mobil making $10 billion in a quarter of record profits. crimea river. there is nothing we can do when they are -- cry me a river. there's nothing we can do when they are raking in profits. [voices overlapping] moderator: i will break the rules. cost control. [voices overlapping] moderator: let's go left to right, representative kevin yoder? rep. kenyatta: two things i would say.

john talks about the savings for single mom. give a single mom driving overrides there fixed and paved, that is with that money goes to. it sounds nice to say we are going to suspend the federal gas tax, there's likely to be that much savings. when you talk about increasing production, that does not happen overnight. talk about pie-in-the-sky ideas, we are not going to stick a straw on the ground and oil comes out. it takes a long time to extract oil and natural gas. moderator: time. councilwoman? councilwoman khalil: i was given an ear full by the wife of a truck driver. they are paying too much for fuel, so doesn't matter. as we are increasing production, there's no reason americans should not get royalties, the same weight they do in alaska. americans have a right to those royalties, we should be getting a check. that is another way to which americans can sit back as we are

pumping and giving fuel to europe, it doesn't mean we need to give up on environmental stewardship. moderator: congressman lam? rep. lamb: it is the difference between talk and results. $.18 sounds good. your price will not go down $.18. we collect that -- gas tax from the companies. unless john has a magic weight to impose a price ceiling on these companies, which we don't have the authority to do, that is not going to happen. your words and present -- bridges will get built more slowly. the gas tax goes into the highway trust fund that we are using to rebuild infrastructure. moderator: we have to move on to our next question. >> this question is for councilwoman khalil. where do you stand on a path for citizenship for immigrants that are already in this country illegally? councilwoman khalil:

undocumented. i support the becoming citizens. i filled the president doesn't through executive order. i would like -- introduce legislation that would support to make sure undocumented immigrants become legal residents. i'm the daughter of immigrants. people come to this country many ways. they are a blessing. they enrich our society, our country, george washington was an illegal immigrant. true story. i support legalization, making sure we provide citizenship to undocumented residents. >> i do as well. the people who are here already paying the law -- obeying the laws obtain their taxes they may never collect. we need them. it is the american story.

what we have passed in the house of representatives is a five year work permit anyone in that situation. it is not the same as a path to citizenship, but it is good and can be renewed every five years. that made it into president biden's build back better bill, as the practical kind of thing that if we elect a senator from pennsylvania we might be able to get done in the senate. lt. gov. fetterman: i am married to a former dreamer. i absolutely support a path to citizenship for those immigrants there already here. it has been vaccine -- vexxing our country for decades. we are not going to deport our way out of this. we are going to acknowledge the immigration makes america america. it makes us special. my wife's origin story has informed my own views to the point we need to make sure we are honoring the contributions

they have made and they deserve a path to legal citizenship. i support comprehensive immigration reform and would vote for that as your next u.s. senator. moderator: representative kenyatta? rep. kenyatta: there are so many folks across our country that are american in every sense of the word except missing a piece of paper. they are members of your communities who are paying taxes , who deserve every opportunity to have access to the full american dream and what i call america's basic bargain. one good job backed up by a union. the ability for your kids to go to a good school. the ability to go to the doctor if you get sick. and fill prescription when you leave the appointment. and that dignity of retiring with a level of security. folks are paying into social security, but right now they are not going to collect. lieutenant governor is right.

this is where experience matters. and why we deserve a senate and senator that reflects the lived experience of working people across the commonwealth. that is why i talk about this so much. this is how you see an impact, and some -- moderator: our next question is from julia. as for congressman lamb, >> in recent years, culture wars over lgbtq laws -- the equality act which would afford protections to lgbtq people against housing and unemployment discrimination has stalled in congress. to support the equality act? what is your message to lgbtq present -- pennsylvanians frustrated with the politically charged atmosphere that makes any movement on federal legislature seem unlikely. rep. lamb: i have a slight

quibble. it has only stalled in the united states senate. i feel the need to defend the houses record. there are a lot of pennsylvanians that are understandably frustrated and scared by the debate that is going on. chambersburg became one of the first town to rollback an antidiscrimination ordinance. something we would not have to worry about if we had the equality act. it will put these projections in the federal law and govern everyone. you want to say at some of these republican politicians, how about you pick on someone your own size? they are going after children, kids who may have questions that seem unusual but they have them. if that is your kid and you are their parent, you want to make sure you get those answered by people who know what they are talking about. if you don't want your child dragged out in public and thrown off the sports team and made into a spectacle because of something they are experiencing. i'm against these efforts.

>> since you brought sports teams, to bleed transgender women should be allowed to play on women sports teams at the youth or college level? rep. lamb: there are different answers along that spectrum. at the youth level, let kids be kids. i'm not aware of a kids -- and cases where his present a problem. once you get to ncaa division i, they already have rules. they already do testing. they have specific criteria, which university of pennsylvania has met every time. i think people have questions whether those rules are modern enough, that is a question for the ncaa, not the u.s. congress. moderator: lieutenant governor? lt. gov. fetterman: anyone who attempts to score points at the expense of a trans child or anyone in those communities need to find a new line of work. it is reprehensible.

it is tough enough to be a teenager, if you're part of a marginalized community, to be singled out by legislators is fundamentally except -- unacceptable. i've long been a proponent and ally of this. i'm proud to say in 2013, i was the only elected statewide official to -- governor corbett threatened to have me arrested for performing a same-sex marriage. we as a state have failed miserably in -- providing protection under the lot for residents. it is long overdue. if i'm your next united states senator, basic fundamental equality, not singling out members of this community is an absolute priority of mine. >> since last congressman lam? do you believe transgender women should be allowed to play on sports teams lt. gov. fetterman:? lt. gov. fetterman:lt. gov. fetterman: yes. if you are looking to score

points and gain advantage by singling out and going after trans athletes or children, it is time to find a new line of work. we as a nation need to be better than that. we need to be inclusive and compassionate. compassion and understanding is on the right side of history. we will look back on that as a shameful chapter if we don't immediately stop it. moderator: representative kenyatta? equality act? rep. kenyatta: for those who are at home and can't see the full auditorium. my left is my husband. when i'm your next united states senator, for the first time in american history, we are going to have an openly gay man in the u.s. senate. who's going to bring my entire life and family and perspective to a body that is in desperate need of that perspective. it makes no sense that right now , with 50 votes in the senate, we haven't already passed the

equality act. it is wrong. right now, in pennsylvania, under state law, depending on which county or municipality you are in, you either have protections or you don't. that patchwork approach is wrong. it was heartbreaking to watch the hearings for soon to be justice -- ketanji brown jackson. >> transgender women in sports? rep. lamb: rep. kenyatta: i got the chance to vote against legislation like that at that sport -- at the state level. really, what we know is all this nonsense you are hearing is not about protecting girls or women in sports. they don't care about equal paper female athletes. they don't care about making sure the facilities which kids are practicing are equal,

whether it is girl or young boy, all they care about is attacking little kids. we know this legislation has led to increased amount of suicide attempts and ideation trans and lgbtq kids. it must come to an end. moderator: let's go back -- i'm sorry, go ahead. councilwoman khalil: i am proud to be a councilwoman from -- which passed an antidiscrimination clause. you cannot discriminate against race, gender, sexual identity, i'm proud to say we recently restarted the human rights commission. i want everyone to step back, girls are already playing a boy sports. i'm not sure where this craziness is coming from, other than the person, i'm so glad you're voting against the spirit has gone against immigrants. her name is martin not white. -- martina white.

she was extremely anti-immigrant. she was trumped before trump. she spent her entire time when she was running going after immigrants. now that her community is very much immigrants, she has found another scapegoat, gay kids. without us protest too much. if you need to pick on somebody else. moderator: we are going to do one more lightning round question. we are going to start with the lieutenant governor. julie, explain where this came from? >> this question comes to us from a reader of the inquirer, and election newsletter, which you can sign up for at inquirer.com/pa 2022. art reader asks, negative campaign ads seem to post -- poisonous against all

politicians. you think something needs to be done to temper this negativity and if so what? lt. gov. fetterman: i do. i am running a clean issue oriented race here. i do not have a super pac that is running negative ads, telling lies, quite frankly. someone on the stage does. i would ask that he disavow that and run a positive campaign, especially when you're using a republican attack line, calling one of us a socialist. i will do something that connor will not, moderator: time. since he brightman, congressman lamb, would you like to comment. rep. lamb: the reason he doesn't want people talk about republican talking points is because he has no answer. he can't stand up to them. i will put it in my own words,

those are mine in the commercial, john's record and histories of the choices he has made plays him too far to the extreme to win at the statewide level in pennsylvania. when he was running around the state in his gym shorts making marijuana at the number one issue and campaigning with bernie sanders, he lost a lot of swing voters in our state. moderator: representative kenyatta, same question? rep. kenyatta: i think there's a difference between erroneous, false attacks and talking about someone's record. if we can't, and the primaries, draw distinctions of when it is the right time to do it? i think everybody on the cake -- on the stage is committed to support whoever the democratic nominee is. we don't get to not talk about john's record, particularly of chasing down an unarmed black guy with a shotgun because it makes them uncomfortable. we have to talk about now or in november, but we are going to

have to discuss it. councilwoman khalil: i just wanted to thank you for that commercials. so i said thank you for knocking on my door and doing the legwork, i'm tired of commercials. thank you gentlemen. the negativity, this is a free country. i don't believe we should be censoring ads like that. if americans don't like it, turn off your tv and campus with me. -- canvass with me. about the socialist think, moderator: time. councilwoman khalil: i'm going to answer that. moderator: go ahead. rep. lamb: it wasn't my add to disavow. >> your thoughts on the reader's question about how negative campaign ads can poison the perception of person -- elected

leaders. rep. lamb: to be honest, i think i've had a lot of people tell me over the years they don't like negative ads. i don't typically run them. i think you have to leave space to have what can be uncomfortable family discussion, especially in a primary like this. we make our best efforts day-to-day to do that. and clear manner as possible. certain of your supporters may go a different direction with it. just because something is uncomfortable or makes us -- you don't love the appeal of it, we stopped to talk about it. [voices overlapping] councilwoman khalil: what he said about bernie sanders, i was a bernie sanders -- [voices overlapping] moderator: you only have a few minutes left. discuss representative kenyatta, name a living republican you admire and why? rep. kenyatta: a living republican i admire? moderator: yes.

rep. kenyatta: representative wendy thomas, one of my colleagues. she and i have a bill called philips law, an 11-year-old kid who died by suicide in my district. getting that call from his very mother is still the toughest day i've had as a legislator. i introduced a bill of her traumatic -- reimagine the way we provide health care for kids. i talked to then vice president biden about this in new hampshire when i was campaigning for him and asked him to consider putting this in his policy, is on the agenda. moderator: i hate to talk -- cut you off talking about suicide. let's go to the councilwoman next. all living republican you admire and why? councilwoman khalil: i hope i get his name right, from texas. he is no longer in congress. i briefly read an article about him in which he critiqued democrats. he works well with a gentleman who is running for governor, and

texas. instead of democrats pointing to what they do, our new supreme court justice, he said she has such incredible credentials, why are we talking about her great credentials? moderator: time. congressman lamb? rep. lamb: the 10 house republicans of mine -- republican colleagues of mine voted to impeach trump the second time. after january 6, people were more on edge the name quicktime i've ever known. for those to members, they were potentially throwing away their political career, a lot have been right now the house and sense of they took on it personal safety risk for them and their families to do the right thing. history will reward them. lt. gov. fetterman: one is former professor of mine, senator alan simpson, a republican from wyoming. a pro-choice, kind, thoughtful

republican senator from wyoming. if you can imagine that was true at one point in our history. the second is my father. he is a republican. he instilled good-quality values of compassion, integrity and public service. he is a shining example of poverty does not define a person's character. those are two republicans i've admired greatly. moderator: time. we're short on time. i'll try to get another lightning round question and in time for your closing statements. but stick to the 30 seconds. how do you handle stress? councilwoman? councilwoman khalil: how do i handle stress? i just go ahead and take care of my house and my family, talk to my parents and pray. i pray a lot. i garden and have dinner with my friends. just live life in general.

that's how i handle stress. rep. lamb: i go out looking for people that i represent. invariably you will find one that puts it in perspective for you. what people are going through is a lot worse than anything i've to do in this job. lt. gov. fetterman: i'm so incredibly blessed to have 3 billion -- beautiful children age 13, 10 and eight. for stress relief, nothing beats hanging out with them at home. i look for it. that is one of the downsides of all this campaigning, i don't get to see them and tuck them in and help them with their homework. it is a poor proxy to being there. rep. kenyatta: life for me ain't been no crystal fair. i lost both my parents by the time is 27. it's been tough. two things never fail me. eight, going on a walk.

nothing like an aimless walk to help you thinking through things . the second, i highly recommend everybody do, is going to netflix.com and watching the great british bake-off. [laughter] moderator: we've come to the end of debate. i think the four of you for being with us today. you each have 30 seconds for a statement. i believe it is councilwoman khalil stern to lead off. councilwoman khalil: thank you for having me here tonight. pennsylvania, you are amazing. you surprise me everyday. i want to tell you an amazing story that happened to me this weekend. i had went to a house of worship, in the middle of school polk county is a mosque -- school cool county >> c-span.org [voices overlapping] we started talking politics.

she said i will trump, i said what are you doing here? she said i take care of this place. moderator: congressman lamb, 30 seconds. rep. lamb: in the next few weeks, as you make up your mind, think about what it's going to take to succeed in a year like this. i'm the only one standing in front of you who has ever beaten republican had to had, i've done it three times. some of the things john would criticize me for, or some other things that make me appeal to people in the middle. that is not a luxury for us, it is something we have to have. you do it by having common sense, eliminate distractions, getting support by the left, right and -- moderator: time. lt. gov. fetterman: i'm the only person here who has won statewide in pennsylvania. i campaigned on poor democratic values and principles. if you send me to washington,

you will always have my vote in washington, to be that 51st vote, to be decisive in tilting the balance of the senate, to make sure we can get stuff done in washington. we need to meet the moment is a party, and i promise you you won't read about me changing my mind. moderator: time. representative kenyatta? plus word. rep. kenyatta: if we want the government that works for working people, we have to elect working people. i don't know a democrat in pennsylvania that wants to lose this race. the only way we are going to win is by making sure we have massive turnout among our regional and democratic base. we are able to excite voters across the commonwealth with the message about why it matters to have the bigger, bolder, democratic majority. i've talked about what i will fight for his or senator, now

i'm asking for your vote. moderator: we are coming to close for the 2022 spotlight democratic primary senate debate. i want to thank all four candidates. thank you for your time tonight. [applause] also like to thank our sponsor of tonight's event, spotlight pa, in partnership with the philadelphia inquirer, wi tcm, dickinson college. they will be hosting another u.s. senate debate tomorrow night at 7:00 at the same location, dickinson college, the republican candidates will be with us tomorrow. the pennsylvania primary is subtle -- scheduled for may 17. thank you for joining us tonight. have a good night.

>> today on c-span, secretary of state antony blinken testifies before the senate foreign relations committee about u.s. assistance for ukraine and the state department budget request. that is live at 10:00 a.m. eastern. then the house will work on several bills including one to help small businesses comply with federal rules. another would establish the potential to study the creation of a national museum dedicated to asian pacific american history and culture. on c-span two, the senate returns at 10:00 a.m. eastern to consider two federal reserve nominations. at 10 a.m. on c-span, attorney general merrick garland testifies in front of an appropriations subcommittee. there is for streaming on our website, can including a review