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proposal. this is from tim hughes from lancing, michigan. an old gene karnhand bumper sticker. a mitt romney doll. what more can you ask for. thanks for joining us. ♪ welcome to the "the young turks." i got a feeling it's a wild show tonight. first, we're exposing. >> unions and other left-wing organizations are so concerned about how successful alex has been in getting registration on economic issues they're calling like a racist organization. >> guess what, we're coming for you, alex. devastating facts about alex coming up in just a little bit. also, guess who showed up at a third-party debate over the weekend. >> why are you taking the green party? because, oh, man this is a big one. >> we're exposing all third parties. we're coming for them. no, we kind of like them.
we'll explain debate. who are the good guys, who are the bad guys. and george zimmerman is released. >> zimmerman, police sources say, has received death threats and appears to be wearing a bullet-proof vest under that brown jacket. >> the police chief resigned today, but he still has his job. why? only one way to find out. you stay right here. it's go time. ♪ >> now, we've been telling you about this group called alec, it's american legislative exchange council with 200 representatives in the country that are part of it. those are legislators who say
for a fee i can sell out my constituents for you and they get together with muslim national corporations who would like to do that. they get together, write these bells, and then pass them through all the different states. we've been telling you about them for a while. "new york times" had something to say about it today. they've done "stand your ground" in florida. you see how well that worked out, we have the trayvon martin case with george zimmerman basically, he had a defense after shooting the poor kid in a chest. you have the voter i.d. laws sounds lovely so far. the arizona immigration law, do you know who wrote that one? private prisons because they wanted more prisons. isn't that amazing. they give it to the legislators. they pretend to be mad but they just want more prisons. when you have the wisconsin union busting bill. it's massive corporations who don't like paying the unions
more. they are the ones who brought that and then of course corporate tax cuts. that's what alec does. they don't like it when we expose them, the exchange committee credo all these groups fighting what they're doing, especially the voter i.d. laws because they want to make sure less and less vote, after american latinos senior citizens etc. those they think might vote democratic. so now today proctor & gamble dropped out. mcdonald's coke, craft the list goes on and on. then alec is in a panic. that's a terrible idea. we're losing all this money. you can't do that to us. yes we can. wrong again. common cause is a group exposing them. they said, you know what, why are these guys considered a non-
non-profit organization where they're tax exempt? this is a political group that deals with lobbying. in the midst of replying to one of our stories, they said, no, our members do lobbying. our organization does not do lobbying. everybody in the organization does lobbying but the organization doesn't, which is a gigantic joke. let me give you bob edgar in filing this with the irs he said it meaning alec, tells the irs that they do no lobbying but yet they have profit-driven legislation in state houses all over the country that benefit it's corporate members. what is that? it's lobbying. of course it's lobbying. steve moore the founder of club for growth, they want tax cuts for every rich person in the country and corporations. and i love this, he's a scholar for alec. oh is he?
he's--why could they do this to alec. >> this is a smear campaign, make no doubt about it. i don't really believe this is about the opposition to voteer i.d. laws. i think what this is really about is the unions and other left-wing organizations are so concerned about how successful alec has been in getting legislation passed on economic issues they're calling alec a racist organization so the companies will withdraw, they'll lose their financial support and they won't be able to support free market ideas. >> in other words waah, waa h. the "new york times" had an article about this. this did a very good job with this. let me show you one of the quotes. the records offer a glimpse of how special interests effectively turn alec's lawmaker
members into stealth lobbyists providing them with talking points signaling how they should vote and collaborating on bills effecting hundreds of issues like school vouchers and tobacco taxes. one of the documents they found was 1995 newsletter that told corporations, don't worry giving us money is, quote, a good investment, and nowhere else can you get a return that high. in other words buying politician as it is best investment you could possibly make. and buy they do. and here is what those politicians get for it later in "the new york times" article it complains corporate members pay stipends. it calls it scholarships--very iranic--for lawmakers to travel to annual conferences including a four-day retreat where alec spends as much as $2,000 on child care for members' family. imagine how much they're spending overall if they're
paying a quarter million of dollars a loan on child care. they give great campaign contributions, they have great jobs and that's why they sell out to these corporations, and that's why they hate it when we expose it. they say we're totally nonpartisan. that's interesting. quote, all but one of the 104 leadership positions within the organization were filled by republicans. totally nonpartisan. oh, i see. so should they have their tax exempt status revoked? of course they should. speaking about things that should have their tax status revoked, how about crossroads gps. there are two crossroads. they have the same mailing address, same office, same leadership right? but they're totally
separate--no no. american crossroads does political action the ads etc. those donors are open records right? the cross gps no, we don't do political spending so our donors can be secret. is that reality? of course not. it's not even close. all the money is intermingled. they are in the same office. it goes to the same place. of the $123 million raised by both groups, 62% of it came from secret donors. why are they allowed to be secret? it doesn't make abe sense. you hear conservatives we're all for transparency. by the way it is not legal. theyeyhohod d ououeeot havee tax exemem s stund to givee u u bbenenf how much those secret donors are giving?
there is less than a hundred of them giving that secret money. on average $75,000 per donor. gee, i wonder if they're protecting the rich in the interest of the rich. on average they're giving three-quarters of a million dollars. and they get a great return on that investment when karl rove gets the entire republican party sell out for them. should they have their tax-exempt status revoked? of course. they're not supposed to make political speeches and tell you which way to vote. apparently daniel jenke didn't get that memo. here's what he said about president obama. >> hitler and stalin had their better moments were barely tolerated. some churches remaining open but would not tolerate any competition with the state in education, social services, and healthcare.
>> all right so compares obama to stalin and hitler. you can say he didn't connect it to voting. he just said hitler and stalin, or maybe did he. watch the second part. oh well, we don't have the second part. it's a graphic. show me the graphic. there it is. he later went on to say this fall every practiceing catholic must vote and must vote their catholic consciences or by the following fall our catholic schools, our catholic hospitals our catholic newman centers could easily be shut down. in other words go vote against the guy who is like hitler and stalin. why does that guy have a tax ex-exempt status he shouldn't. it should be repealed.
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similar law was shelved, idaho this proved to be political poison. women are paying attention and having their voices heard. >> thanks for coming in. >> the aclu considers a demand that to get a job you have to let an employer open your private mail, the senate wants to make it illegal to hand over a password to your facebook account.
♪ >> all right, back on "the young turks"." george disciple man was released stay on bond. his bail was supposed to be $150,000, and it is, but you know they only have to post 10%. so it's just $15,000. to me if its bail, it means you put up the money. but apparently that's not how it works. on second-degree murder charges you only have to post $15,000 and he is walking free today with the martin family is not happy about. he'll come back, and they'll conduct a trial. there are some conditions, and he has a monitoring device on
him. he cannot flee. they took his passport. he's not allowed to carry a gun. as my mom would say thank god. of course he should not carry a gun. he's not applaud to communicate with the martin family, nor is he allowed to shoot at them. a new story on the latest today. let's check out a quick piece. >> zimmerman who received death threats appeared to be wearing a bulletproof vest. he wore similar protection beneath his suit in court on friday. prior to his release zimmerman zimmerman's attorney said they have arranged several places for him to stay in a trial that could last well over a year. >> there are several possibilities where we could hopefully keep him safe. >> all right now before all this happened, zimmerman used to work at a company that did mortgage risk management. here's who doesn't know how to
do good risk management. that's george zimmerman. now he, of course, will be basically be in hiding as they have found a secret location for him to go to. but through those proceedings we found our damaging information about zimmerman in the past. he had apparently had a confrontation with an undercover police officer. he was not formerly charged on that, but that did happen, and he had had scuffle with an ex-fiancé one time over a cell phone, and they got into a pushing match. and another time apparently it was worse, occurring to the fiancee. this is what she said. we were on our way to counseling. he pops his gospel and i popped it in his face. he called me names and was done with it. on the way back home he open handed smacked my mouth and asked how does it feel? so there is some chance this gentleman has anger management issues. today the police chief that was so controversial handed in his
resignation. that's bill lee jr. he took himself off the case, and he was waiting to see how things would develop. the city commission would not accept his resignation. on a 3-2 vote they said no, we want to you keep working for us. i don't know why in the world that happened, but apparently lee in march saying he would stand down. >> i stand by the sanford police department, it's personnel and the investigation conducted in regards to the trayvon martin case. it is apparent that my involvement in this matter is overshadowing the process. therefore, i have come to the decision that i must temporarily remove myself from the position as police chief for the city of sanford. i do this in the hopes of restoring some semblance of calm to the city which has been in
turmoil for several weeks. >> well, you know, the resignation was fascinating. the fact that it has not been accepted is more fascinating. i want to bring more in here and get further clarity on this. matt let's talk about both aspects on this. do you have any idea on the police chief and why they did not accept his resignation. >> hugely popular. the force really like lee. he has had many more commendations than anybody has written him up for anything negative. this is the first real blight on his record. the guy has a read reputation. add great reputation coming in. he came into the police force to reform it because of allegations of prejudice and racism in the former administration. he came to clean things up, which is shocking how this ended
up in this way. basically it happened this way. the commissioner and the mayor who last month voted to oust him said we're scapegoating him let's wait until the end of the investigation. let's wait until we know all the facts of the case about what happened, how badly if at all the investigation of trayvon martin was mishandled. that's what they're doing. the prosecutors i've been talking to have been telling me, yes, there have been a couple of mistakes but it was done pretty much by the book. the fact that george zimmerman was not brought up on charges cenk, was not because of the police chief. it was because of the prosecutor the state prosecutor who got the recommendation from the police department itself to indict zimmerman on manslaughter charges, turned it down, rejected it because he felt they did not have enough for a
slam-dunk case. he could in the convict zimmerman, so what was the point of putting him on the stand. so some could argue on the state prosecutor. >> i hear you, but i'm not buying it. there is something that doesn't compute here. i know, i saw it with my own eyes. billiebillleebill lee said they don't have enough. >> he said we don't have enough for probable cause. >> how could the new prosecutor say we have enough for second-degree murder and then say at the same time the guy who didn't think they had enough to arrest him should stay on. it doesn't compute. >> i don't have a ready explanation for it. we also don't know all of the evidence.
the state prosecutor in jacksonville, the person who took the place over, she and her investigators have been working on this tirelessly for the past month or so. i assume they've come up with a lot of things that the police department hadn't. yes there were glaring mistakes. it's a little shocking that "abc news" talked to the only person who was able to speak with trayvon martin that night who was on the phone with them as she was describing zimmerman following him. that's his girlfriend we'll call dee dee. we won't say her real name because she's a minor. there are a couple glaring lapses in the police investigation, but a lot of people have come to the defense of billlee. there is a lot of out there cha is shocking that we don't know. essentially we're talking about a four-minutes interaction between george zimmerman and trayvon martin that ended with trayvon martin with a bullet in
his chest. so much has come out surrounding it that it's astounding. >> right. >> my understanding were the prosecution is that they're still hiding the cards. keeping them close to their chest. they're not going to let us know what they have until discovery which is probably about a month or maybe even more away. >> matt gutman, thank you. >> thanks, cenk. >> the prosecution wants to make everybody happy, right? so there is a lot of politics involved here. they don't want to throw anybody and bus. they want to say yes did he the arrest, but you know what everybody else in the chain was just lovely. they never made any mistakes. this doesn't make sense. they're covering himself politically. that's my opinion. let's golet'slet's go to darrell parks, a partner with parks and crump. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. obviously i want to get the
family's reaction with zimmerman being realized and how the prosecution has handled the case so far. >> well, we think that number one the prosecutors are doing their job. we never expected them to come into a pre-trial release situation, bail hearing. we put on part of the probable cause affidavit to see if that would assist in the bail hearing. obviously it failed, the bail was set. >> now how about this police chief resigning, and then resignation not being accepted. what are your thoughts on that? >> well, you know, we don't have a long history with the sanford police department as a law firm, however, some of the things that we saw in our investigation of the zimmerman case leads us to have a lot of serious questions about the sanford police
department, and you know, when we were in this case chief lee was very adamant about mr. zimmerman's innocence. it was not just mr. others. chief lee was saying that zimmerman was innocent. now as the fax are flowing out it is clear that there was evidence that this guy should have been charged. rather than being charged with manslaughter he was charged with second-degree murder. >> right. one last question. i don't know how much interaction you've had with the prosecution, but was there any discussion about the bloody head pictures? >> no one can deny that there was a major altercation that existed between trayvon and george zimmerman.
that's uncontroverted. this kid was fighting a guy who had a deady weapon with him. he had been in a fight for his life. we think we win either way and get a conviction against mr. zimmerman. and the fact that this guy had some blood on his head is no indication--i'm sure if trayvon realized this guy had a gun he better fight and give it all he had to save his own life. unfortunately, this guy thought it was okay that in a fist fight even if you happen to be losing you can pull out a gun and shoot the other person in the chest. that's not how we do things in america. >> or at least it wasn't until alec came in. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> now that alec passes the laws in florida for the benefit of nra, which represents the gun manufacturers, apparently we can shoot people at will. when we come back you don't often hear about the third parties in mainstream media. that's why a show like "the young turks" was created.
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needed a correspondent just as epic. ♪ so epm tell me what happened here. >> well, there was a debate here in los angeles. there were six candidates among the most notable roseanne barr who is running as a green party candidate. there were two other green candidates there. it was held at a church. there were roughly 250 people there. people were angery. >> the government is not responding to the needs of the people. >> they are on wall street where every filthy thing in the world begins. >> i'm not going to get elected president. >> the only solution out of this is to stand up exert democracy and lead forward with our vision and values. >> with dissatisfaction of money and politics and the two-party
politics in this country there are people who want to vote for president but not for either of the major candidates of the parties. jillstein of the green party. >> no one can afford to sit this one out. >> peta lindsay. >> we believe that people of the united states has power and when we come out and fight against the power that inflicts oppression on us as a class. >> rocky anderson. >> stand up against the owe literation of the civil law. >> kent mesplay. >> we pitch a big enough tent for everyone. >> and stephen durham. >> they want us to pay for the mess they created. for us it's unemployment, debt,
endless war and a police state. >> if the celebrity of mitt romney and barack obama is not enough for you. well roseanne barr of the green par could be your president. >> i'm running for president of these united states of america. our country and our elections sold to the highest bidder. that's an immoral dangerous and frightening thing to me. i don't like it. >> tell me why someone who votes for stephen durham for president is not wasting their vote. >> because your vote is already wasted by the dictatorship of the two parties. >> tell me what makes you optimistic that this third party now--we've heard this song and dance before. >> historically it has been independent parties that have driven the progressive agenda whether you're looking at the right to vote, even abolition had the liberty matter. >> virtually everyone agrees that none of these candidates will be our next president. what they have agree on is that
the two-party system is broken and they want to fix it and they have ideas of changing it. >> we want to make jobs a constitutional right. we want free education all the way through college a constitutional right. >> er. >> shame on you. >> if you think bangers bankers are the only behind the movement you haven't heard. >> that means 3 million americans, yet power is concentrated in far fewer hands than that. it's concentrated into the hands of 1255 of the richest americans. that is the 1%. that's the electoral college. >> they're raking in the profits and handing big bonuses to their ceos while the rest of us lose
our homes jobs, and education and the health wear we desperately need. >> we paid the debt means times. now we're just paying for the usury and the interest. cancel the debt. >> some of these candidates believe the mdaa was the absolute worst piece legislation come across the table. >> the most subversive act, that our government could round us up and put us away for the rest of our lives without charges without a trial. >> some of these candidates are for forgiving student loans if we foregave the banks. >> if we forgave the bankers we can forgive the students and now we can require the rich to pay their fair share of taxes. >> thank you everybody you've been great. >> are you going to sing the
national anthem at your own inauguration. >> i absolutely well, and please go to youtube and watch me sing it. [singing the national anthem] >> i am a good singer and i would probably sing that for my inauguration and then right after that i'll totally redick rate. >> roseanne barr, thank you very much. >> thanks. >> she didn't want to shake my hand. i didn't apologize for trying to to. >> it was refreshing to see people unabashedly to the left of yes. >> i didn't run into shaefer or bob williams at this debate. but we talked about how the voiceless don't have voices in our democracy right now or at least it's being minimized. there you were with people whose
voices from not being heard. i was glad "the young turks" could do that. >> who won the debate. >> i thought dr. jill stein and rocky anderson. she was the most presentable in terms of what they are policy was. stephen der ham was exciting. he was the rabble rousing socialist and he said, i know i'm not going to win. peta lindsay was forceful. she was born in 1984. i asked her why she was running for president if she's not legally able to be president when elected. she said that the rules will be changed if she's elected. >> in the end did you come away more impressed or less impressed? keep it reel. >> i will keep it real. i felt like i was dealing with a group of people who obviously are not going to win the presidency. there was a lot of passion in the room. it seemed some of the people
seemed somewhat fringed. some of the people watching and people on stage in terms of what their ideas are. they are obviously not main main-stream people. it was a corny proud to be american moment because you're listening to ideas everywhere. some of them were radical. let's end capitalism. that's not going to happen. but it was thrilling to be a part of that and it was fun. they're all very passionate. >> from my point of view, let's go rocky anderson. thanks michael. when we come back, jon hunt man accuses the republicans--remember, he ran for president in the republican party. so are they actually communists? everyno other show in the country is debating whether republicans are communists. >> i thought for a moment about what they do in china. they knock you out. we will not settle for easy answers. (vo) the former governor of ny
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>> well, obviously we have a powerful panel panel. codirector of the up coming documentary "muslims are coming." it sounds very scary. >> yes, thank you. >> i can say that because i'm in the movie. and raul a "u.s.a. today" columnist. a pleasure to have you both. should president obama take bill clinton's advice. apparently it was to his campaign hey listen, stop saying that mitt romney has no core. instead say that he has a conservative core. i think that's a good question. isn't flip flopper or is he deeply conservative. as one top strategist told politico. if you're going to pin a tail on the donkey, make it the conservative tail. let me start with you, what do you think? is that the right strategy?
>> i think flip flopper is more important. you can't define him. nobody knows what he stands for. i'm not even being partisan. george bush, i didn't agree with him, but he was a decider. and barack obama his campaign should be--campaign--i'm note seen someone like this before, with no core. that should be the campaign message. >> raul, it's a really interesting debate. you can focus all of your energy, your ads they have a tough ad painting mitt romney as a conservative, the obama campaign does. do you focus on no core or the conservative core, in favor of all these right-wing positions. which way do you go? >> i would have to go with really painting him not just a conservative core, but his core is extreme.
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♪ >> hi, we're back on "the young turks." so mike and ike is a candy that no one eats, so they decided to do a $15 million ad campaign to reintroduce themselves, make sense and they did it in a fun way. they decided that mike and ike were going to break up. they didn't say what kind of break up. business partnership relationship. tony perkins from the family research council decided it was a gay divorce. here's what he had to speak out against this terribly gay candy. >> these days you can't get a sugar high without experiencing a cultural low. tony perkins with the family research council. there is trouble in candy land.
mike and ike are calling it quits. the duo are staging a gay divorce to draw in younger customers. in this society even candy has answer agenda. from facebook to tumblr, the fruity pair says, the rumor ares true. we just couldn't agree on stuff any more. they'll spend $15 million on billboards and tv commercials that poke fun at the breakup. i don't know what's more disturbing, that advertisers think that divorce appeals to kids or sexualizing candy will make people buy more. after a year-long build up the company will reveal if the couple reconciles. until then look for mike and ike to have a distinctionly liberal flair. >> get t the fruity pair. they never said that they were gay. how can candy be gay? it's a marketing campaign.