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>> the war on women. you know, with his mother's day message. >> j.p. morgan admitting that they blew $2,000,000,000. by the way most economists that i have read over the weekend and a couple i talked to said it never would have happened with. one was saturday night in new york, never would have happened if the voelker rules had been in place. the reason they are not in place two years after congress passed dodd-frank is because the lobbyists from j.p. morgan chase and other wall street banks have been able to persuade republicans in congress to block the writing of these rules and the prom you willgation of these rules, spending millions of dollars pressuring congress not to carry out the dodd-frank legislation legislation. cj calling out in oakland, california.
good morning, sir. ma'am, i'm sorry. >> that's quite all right. the glass-steagall act, wouldn't that have prevented this? why don't they are reenact that policy that was good for over 40 years and designed to protect the public? >> you are absolutely right. >> that's where this whole mess started, right? with the repeal of glass-steagall, cj. they should bring that back. that would be almost politically impossible. in the meantime, the much shorter way to resolve this, which is dodd frank which is the law, enforce that law. the problem. again, they haven't even published the new rules and regulations called for under dodd-frank because the banks have been able to block them. donald is out in aurora, i will illinois. >> hi, bill. what's up? >> i don't think anything is going to be done. the issue will be blown over give it a couple of weeks.
typical america, you know how they are. >> i understand where they are coming from. i hope you are wrong. that's in what happened after the collapse, you know look how quickly people have forgotten what happened in 2008. >> the thing is on wall street how these guys are talking about the stocks, they were in the state of hysteria all the time even when the stop market is up. they were upset about this. because it exposes them. it shows the people what they are up to. they were absolutely livid, one of the announcers. i don't remember his name. unless another bank bales and goes down this road, maybe then they might waken up. >> good point. before we run out of time here i want to make a point that j.p. morgan chase is big enough they could absorb a $2 billion loss. right in even though it will hurt their shareholders but there are other banks that could not. this would collapse.
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♪ >> this is the full court press, the bill press show, live on your radio and on current tv. >> hey 33 minutes after the hour now. happy monday. good to see you today on this monday may 14th. it is the full court press coming to you live on satellite radio on your local progressive talk radio station and on current tv. so you can watch and listen and you can watch as well. we are talking taking your calls about j.p. morgan chase
for report that they have been playing funny-money games again and lost $2,000,000,000 $2 billion loss which would have been prevent from the rules and regulation under dodd-frank had been in place. they are not in place because people like jamie diamond of j.p. morgan chase says we don't need them. the government should stay out of wall street and do nothing to correct the abuses of 2008. where do with he go from here? first, a little politics. i have to tell you on the political front, i don't think there is anybody who writes about it more or blog about it more than aaron blake from at a time fix column at the washington post joining us again this morning. aaron, welcome back to the program. >> thanks for having me back. >> good to read you every day several times a day. good to talk to you. let's start with the president's big announcement on same-sex marriage. you have taken a look at the possible political impact of that decision. how does it play?
>> we haven't seen too much polling on this so far. but on friday we finally did get some input back a gallup poll came out. the first thing we noticed about the poll is that for a strong majority of americans, this is not an issue that matters to their vote. 60% of people said this would have no impact on who they vote for in the november election. >> that's point number 1. point number 2 is among the other four, about 40% of americans, about twice as many people said that this decision would make them more negatively predisposed toward voting for obama. about one quarter of americans say this would make them less likely to vote for obama. about one in eight americans say it would make them more likely to vote for him. so to that -- that suggests to us that, you know, there is a potential price he could be paying among a small have you ever had of democrats and
independent who, you know, while a very small number of them e elections are decided by a very small number of voters. >> when you go back to i think it was 20 oil 4 t wasn't so long ago when same-sex marriage -- then we called it gay marriage, i guess, was like the number 1, red-hot social issue, all of those initiatives on i think there was 10 or 11 states. right? dallas that had initiatives on the ballot in november of that year to ban same-sex marriage the fact where we move to today where 6 out of 10 say zero impact on their vote? >> remarkable? isn't it. >> it is. it's hard to believe that was only eight years ago, and not just that but look at the way that mitt romney's campaign has responded to this. >> hardly at all. >> imagine george w. bush being handed this same set of circumstances in his reelection campaign and basically, you know, punting on it and not
saying anything about it not even kind of throwing a bone to the social conservatives out there. romney was at liberty university this weekend which is, you know basically the one place. >> ground zero for the evangelical evangelicals. >> he didn't allude to the fact this was an issue out there. he said this is my position on gay marriage. >> and santorum is out saying that romney ought to take this and run with it basically, make this a centerpiece of his campaign as santorum would surely do. i am not sure romney wants to follow that advice. >> yeah. this is maybe the time where the republican party is glad rick santorum isn't their presidential nominee. i don't think that's news to anybody. but i think that, you know, that's just another -- that's another example of how this
issue has changed over the last 8 to 10 years, given the fact that the republicans are basically glad right now that they don't have a culture warrior as their nominee. >> barney frank on one of the sunday shows yesterday was asked about this made a point which i have heard others. here aaron, barney frank from yesterday. >> if you were going to cast your vote based upon a candidate's position regarding same-sex marriage, you were going to vote for om bam in a or romney on that. >> do you think barney is right office in other words, people had already -- the people who were against it? right? were never going to vote for obama in the first place is another way of saying it. >> yeah, the question, though, is when did obama go kind of a step too far with this? i think that, you know we all think that -- we all pay attention to the stuff. we all knew or thought we knew obama was going to eventually support gay marriage or maybe that he already did in his own mind but just hadn't come out and said it.
i am not sure that all of the voters out there knew this like we did. and so i think that there are potentially some conservative democrats or some democrats maybe even african-american democrats who aren't on board with gay marriage and who may be taking a second look at obama. on the other hand, i don't think it's going to be a large portion of americans who think this is the most important issue. there are so many people who have having economic problems, and, you know, the gay marriage is not something that directly affects the vast majority of americans in this country, their ability to do get married. so i think that, you know it shouldn't be over estimated but i think that if this makes some democrats stay home or if there there are some independent who for some reason, this is a major issue for them and they otherwise would have voted for obama, you know, then it could move some votes. >> aaron blake is our guest. he is a blogger for washington post. you can follow him the post
politics.com and the column, "the next." my prediction is by november we won't be talking about this at all. we will be talking about the economy and how's the president stack up on the economy in your research and in your polling? >> it's been a rough couple of months with the two jobs reports that came out. this is the reason we are seeing the romney campaign punt on the gay marriage issue is because -- >> they want to talk the economy? right? >> what they are seeing is they are seeing the economy start to work for them again. there was about three months the first three months of this year where that wasn't necessarily the case. there was some better job growth than there had been in a long time. this is starting to look like it could be a talking point in the obama campaign's favor. i don't think that's the case any more. we have seen some kind of even en in the polls. we have seem obama favorable ratings drop a little bit.
right now, the romney campaign has basically knowing this is going to be the issue in november and if it's not the issue for whatever reason, it probably means the economy has recovered and they are going to lose anyway. so why not just take a rest on that. >> to the extent the economy -- to the extent there is good news on the economy, it's bad news for romney. >> yeah. >> exactly. >> thanks, aaron for getting up early and thanks for your good work as always. >> thanks, bill. >> aaron black with the fix with chris. is it olitsa. yes get that -- yes, i did. okay. the next column follow at post politics.com. jamie diamond says we don't need help. we dmeeptd regulation. we don't need government to oversee what we are doing on wall street. we blew another $2 billion. larry from new britain.
what do you say. >> good morning. >> what i would like to say is that this is just another reason where republicans refused to compromise because -- >> yeah dodd frank really is a compromise. >> it's a weak, weak law. i mean i couldn't believe this is as strong as we could do after what happened. right? and now -- >> exactly. >> even that weak read these wall street people led by jamie diamond don't want. >> i agree with the previous caller, cj i believe it was, that mentioned the. >> glass-steagall. >> yes. >> that was another big mistake on bill clinton's party, larry. appreciate it. our roving ambassador. my gaud fort lauderdale florida. good morning. >> hello. good morning. >> kicking back on the beach down there arnold: they can't
count but they have to go with the weak talking points. the job-killing taxes, that obama, he is messing this up. i mean where back there in 2008 introducing legislation. they talked trash and won't give him credit. at this those crazy talking points. i say one thing. we should talk with eric. they say black people won't vote for obama because it interferes with the gay rights amendment.
i am a black man. i know black people. i talk to black people. it it would be not one issue. >> that's the other guys. all the time. >> arnold, you make a good point. donna edwards, congress woman donna edwards was on the show. you probably heard her on friday. for black panthers who might not like what obama doesn't like it, they are not going toll their people to vote for mitt romney. full-court press on monday may 14th. we are off and running. >> on your radio and on current tv. this is the bill press show.
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them out at income at home income@ income@home. mitt romney at liberty university over the weekend giving the commencement address, not a political address but he did take time to mention one issue we have been talking a lot about lately on same-sex marriage. >> marriage is a relationship 2010 one man and one woman. [applause.] >> now of course a lot of applause from that at liberty university, but the question really is: having taken a stand in support of same-sex marriage notice president obama didn't call for legislation. he did not call for a constitutional amendment like mitt romney wants to and the constitution to ban it president obama just said personally i support it. will that impact him?
gary calling from oklahoma. good morning. >> good morning to you, bill how are you doing? >> good to hear from oklahoma. what do you think this morning. >> i am an over-the-road truck driver and i was going to vote for barack obama simply because, you know, what's the choice? but now i am energized. i am not gay. i am energized because that that all persons born or nationalized, no state shall a bridge the right of any citizens, blah, blah blah. now because of his show of courage which he doesn't legislate, i am going to help him get a congress best i can across it country because i want to put something into this like elizabeth warren. >> that's what he needs. he is showing the leadership. he is the epichamber of america.
when he puts that out there, all of the sudden he energizes people like me. it's about the human rights and the values of what this country is about. now, i am going to max out over the next few months my campaign donation for him and i feel energized. i think that's something that's missing in the polls. >> i do, too joe. good for you. good for you. it shouldn't take a lot of courage. what joe points out is what the president is saying is, i believe in the constitution that every american should have equal rights equality marriage equality as well as job equality and housing equality and voting equality and every other kind of equality those who are against same-sex marriage are saying there are two classes of americans and it is okay to discriminate today.
it's not. joe is down in atlanta. hey, joe, good morning. >> good morning, bill. excellent show. >> thank you. you are very kind. thank you. >> i wanted to comment that president obama's coming out in favor of gay marriage at a personal level shows a great deal of courage. number 1, number 2, it's the correct decision irrespective of what the effects are. if it costs him the re-election, it's the rye thing to do. because in america, it's not subject to a majority vote. >> that's why we have federal courts, a constitution. >> that's why federal judges are appointed for life. it's the right thing to do no matter what the effects are. >> joe, thank you. i was going to say excellent statement. i couldn't -- no. i couldn't agree more. i -- but i doubt that this is going to cost president obama politically. i think it will help him political because i think americans are beginning to understand the issue.
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facebook comments and twitter comments on a topcouple of tommics, one is the cover of time magazine and the woman breast feeding her 3-year-old son. the other topic has been mitt romney, tackling the guy one of his classmates and cutting his hair when he was in high school which i said should not be an issue in this campaign. i don't think anybody agrees with me on that. lynn redding says, sorry, bill, no passes for romney's pranks whether high school or when he was 30 and strapping his dog to the top of the car. here is another one. bill, you are wrong about mitt's high school pattern of bullying. this isn't a pattern of adolescent pranks. it's bullying and cruelty. jay lawrence said if you acted like romney did in high school or ever, you like he should be ashamed. i hope you have reconsidered yesterday's parting shot. >> no.
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>> wall street executives say question don't need no stinking government regulation. we are handle all of this ourselves. just stay out of our -- out of our lives. what do you know? now jamie diamond admits j.p. morgan just blew $2,000,000,000 thank you, jamie diamond for making the indicates why we need government regulation. we will get into that and a whole lot more here on today's full-court press. but first, we get the latest out in los angeles with today's current tv news update jacki schechner. hi, jacki. >> good morning, bill. good morning, everyone. we we are turning our attention now to jobs and the disney as mitt romney wanted to shift the focus away from gay marriage and over to that, the obama campaign is releasing a new ad today that is hitting mitt romney hard on his economic history. >> the two minute spot is set to air in five battleground states starting today iowa virginia colorado and ohio. it's online now so you can see
it if you are not in one of those five states. it features former employees of gst steel in kansas city who lost jobs health insurance at the hands of mitt romney's bain capital. >> they made as much money as they could. they filed for bankruptcy without any concern for the families of the communities. >> it's like a vampire. they came in and sucked the life out of us. >> there is a new website called romneyeconomics.com that will features other companies companies acquired by mitt romney and partners and how they ran those partners into debt and liquidated them for shareholder profit. there is a six-minute version of the ad online as bill has been discussing this morning, we are keeping you up to date on j.p. morgan, we expect to see the resignation of ceo. jamie diamond is in crisis
and there's only one place you'll find us. ♪ broadcasting across the nation, on your radio and on current tv, this is the bill press show. >> j.p. morgan chase blows $2,000,000,000 of their customers' money. who says we don't need wall street regulation? good morning, everybody. it is monday may 14th. coming to you live from our nation's capitol, here we are, the full court press on this beautiful monday morning the
bill press show. i am bill press, liberal and proud of it. good to have you with us today as we tackle the nation's props around the country and around the globe and, of course, we take your calls, give you a chance to sound off on the issues of the day by calling us on our toll-free line. president obama giving the commencement address at barnard college today. congress in town trying to deal with a budget and the student loan issue. and mitt romney giving commencement address down at liberty university over the weekend, all kind of stuff to talk about this morning. we will do that, take your calls and you have a chance to meet and talk to as always our bill press team team press. peter okay burn and dan henning. >> happy monday. >> with videographer cyprian
boulding. >> hey there. >> you knew saturday night live this weekend was going to have a little skit about joe biden getting out in front of president obama on the issue of same-sex marriage. they did it last night. they did it with i forget who plays joe biden. >> jason sudekus. >> will ferrell came back. >> will ferrell was the host. everybody wanted to see because, you know, he is a former cast member and he has so many mim rabble characters from when he was on. >> including george w. >> joe biden is in his room, which looks like a kids room refusing to leave his room because he feels that daddy is mad at him. and who steps out of the closet? we won't tell you why he was in the closet. george bush who identifies with jolton joe. >> those smarty pants types are
never going to understand speak-first guys like us, you know. they are all brains. you and me we are all gut and balls. >> yeah. >> every decision i ever made happened between my belly button and the middle of my thighs. >> i am so sick of the way presidents are writing me. i am an adult. >> hey, i have been there. i have been there. i used to catch grief all the time from president cheney. >> uh-huh. >> guts and balls. >> that's what we are, gut and balls. yeah, george bush says when you in trouble, just say, mission accomplished. >> well, mission accomplished. >> what's that supposed to mean? >> it's just something i can say when a problem isn't solved but i don't want to talk about it any more. >> thanks for being a pal. >> okay. you know, i can't help but to think if you had less thanif you would
have been my vice we would have burned this to the ground. >> literally or figuratively. >> what's the one where there is fire. >> ref talking about faith and relunchon, head of americans, the united for the separation of church and state. we will talk to buzz feed about mitt romneyes speech at liberty university and molly ball from atlantic will be in studio with us next hour as a friend of bill. but first: >> this is the full court press. >> on this monday, other headlines making news destiny has another smash hit on its hand with the avengers, another $103 million over the mother's day weekend alone. now, after just 19 days in office, it's brought in $1,000,000,000. >> elected into? >> in theaters.
>> president asyringers. >> i would vote for it. >> captain america. >> brought in $1,000,000,000 worldwide. >> that's three times what it cost to make the film according to media market journal, protection costs were just the $220 million in marketing an additional $100 million. >> yeah. >> actually, 200 million is not that. >> no. >> these days. >> that's incredible. >> whoa. >> the dalai lama is being awarded the temptonprise, the $1.6 million is given to someone who encurrences common ground between science and religion. "the telegram" sat down with him to find out what his biggest fear is. he said it used to be flying but now he is used to it now his fear is being eaten by a shark, specifically his plane crashes into water since he doesn't know how to swim. he knows he would turn into
lunch. >> i don't think you have to worry about him getting bitten by shark. somebody tell him that. >> she is barely cold in the gave but whitney houston's family has signed to be in a reality show, airing on lifetime starring -- >> not just a reality show. >> her sister-in-law, daughter bobbi christina, mother sysy and cousin dion warwick all in it. >> but they would never exploit her. no, never action for money. >> that's cringe. >> yes, indeed. all right, you know, we have a lot of politics on this show and but not exclusively politics. every once in a while, there is something people are buzzing about which is not political. a lot of you have on facebook. i am talking about the cover of
time magazine. you have probably seen it. you have heard about it this week. peter, we have it up. cyprian, we can show that to our current tv viewers at any rate and describe it for our radio listeners. if you haven't seen it, it's a woman who is breast feeding, you say, oh, so, big deal? what's the big deal? the big deal of this is that she is not holding this infant at her breast. this infant, this child is standing in front of her reaching up and suckling his mother's breast. her son in this case happens to be 3 years old. and the legend or the title on the front of the magazine is: are you mom enough? implying that, of course if you are a new mom or a recent mom and you are not breast feeding
your kid up until the time they are three years old and beyond then you are not mom enough. this mom jamie grumey says that any idea that we should stop breast feeding before 3 is not -- it's not necessary. it's just something that we have acustom -- a custom of in this country. >> it's a cultural thing. i don't know who came up with that, but it has no biological reasoning behind it at all. >> no biological reasoning behind it at all. we should just keep nursing as long as we want to she says and there is nothing abnormal about this at all. >> this is a normal option for your child. and it should not be stigmatized. my goal is to make it normal and not to say that everyone has to do it, but it shouldn't be condemned. >> no. i don't think it's normal at
all. i mean i don't know. i don't know we need a law about this. but the average, i would say is what? probably a year and a half pete officer what would you think. >> i would say about a year, year and a half is a good goal. it's a normal goal mothers aim for. >> most mothers tincts a lot of mothers do. >> at that time they give them oat cereal, get them on to,e on to solid foods. boy, our facebook page that been -- has been just buzzing with comment about this time magazine cover. people in all different directions. suzanne loues says, oh pleaseewis says, oh, please. this is crazy. this kid can drive. >> john greene says i don't much like the photo but i support her right to choose how to rear her son. eric hayes isn't that child porn or something?
jessica: i think the title is upsetting upsetting. it implies those who don't do things such as breast feed until the child is 3 or more aren't mom enough. verda mosier. i breastfed my children until they were six months old, not 3 years old. what do you think? 866-55-press. 866-7377. there are two issues here we ought to talk about. one of them is breast feeding until 3? no. no. i don't think so. i mean peter f like you said if they are old enough to ask for it? no. >> don't get me wrong. we have two young kids, and we were both very -- let's face it. my wife did all of the work but we believed all of the breast feeding. she did the breast feeding and she was adamant about that. she wanted to breast feed for, you know, awhile. we don't want to give them a
bottle straight away. >> so was carol with our two boys. absolutely. >> at three years old? almost four? no. >> no. both of our daughters in law breastfed those kids and they loved it and they wanted to do it and until they were about a year and a half, which would you say, peter is about -- >> about a year and a half. >> that's end that, to pretend it's normal? not in this country. the other thing is with everything going on, why would time magazine put this on the cover? seriously? like promoting this as a normal thing to do with a headline are you mom enough? if they did put this on the cover t "is this weird or what?"
because they seem to be endorsing this. i don't know. it just bothered me. a lot of people are talking about it. angel calling from chicago. hi, angel. good morning. >> good morning. >> did you see this cover? what do you think? >> i did. i did see it. the cover was a bit much. but i am a new mom. i have a 10 month old. i stopped breast feeding at 8 months. he was like didn't want to do it anymore. if you want to breast feed until 2 or 3 years old and give him a bottle. you could be a little more socially acceptable and still give them the breast milk. there are some options to continues the breast milk. >> why did you stop at 8 months? >> i went back to work and i was pumping at work. it got to the point where i didn't pump enough so it started to get less and less. so i had to -- got to the point where i just couldn't do it
anymore. i said oh, and as a mom, you get so exhausted and it's so time-consuming. as much as you want your kid to have it for a long time. if you work and you try and pump at work, it's just so hard to % do. so i did the best i could. >> well, good for you. yeah. that's not abnormal. eight months, i know a lot of women like that, too who have you have the stuff to wash and use and use again and keep it in the freezer so it's always ready. yeah, there are some options. you are right. one is just saying i am done. you are on your own. go get a bowl of cereal. >> if the kid can scramble his own eggs. go scramble some eggs. you can't have this right now. >>. >> brian from hanover. >> the big miss conconception is
everyone things that child is getting the breast milk. it's usually about comforting. take a look at it. my wife and i have two children. my 18 month old still breast feeds and she plans to do that longer as well. 3? probably not. we have a 3-year-old as well. probably not. but it goes on when the child is ready to wean off as well. we do not vaccinate. we exercise that right not to vaccinate. dr. robert sears talks about going longer if you are not going to vaccinate a child which i do believe a lot of people don't understand that. >> how long did you go with your first child. >> first child, my wife had to go back to work rather early. he was only what? 9, 10 months. >> really? >> at 18 months old. >> that's not that unusual actually. >> no t the people is people jump to the conclusion that, hey, they are only getting this as a meal and just give them real food like you have been joking about. it's funny but it kind of puts a black eye on the parent that
wants to do that. >> but do you think -- do you think three years old is normal? >> yes, actually yeah. >> really? >> my brother-in-law was over two years old when he stopped but it's all about the weaning of -- what's the availability of the mother to be able to do it and the child to still be able to take it. remember, it's not about a sustainable meal. it's about -- usually, it's about comforting and, you know, like i said, it's generally always comforting. you have to build the immune system that way. >> brian, i hear that point. i think it's about growing up. and if i had to not that i have any right to lay down what the rule ought to be. by the time they are 2, you can wean them off. say let's try some of this oat cereal here you will like it. 866-55-press. more calls coming up on the time
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of the day, this is one they chose to put on the cover this week. a woman breast feeding her 3-year-old son stand, of course, be in front of her. she is not swaddling him in her arms and the time magazine article is: are you mom enough? in other words, if you don't breast feed until at least they have a driver's license, it seems you are not mom enough. lisa from hyattsville, marilyn. what do you think? >> i think the article is a little misguided. obviously, it's done for media attention and to get, you know, issues of time magazine flying off of the stands because that photo of the mom breast feeding her son is just so disconnected. i mean they are both looking at the camera. the child is on a stool. who will breast feeds like that? i have never seen anyone breast feed like that. >> exactly. >> you can tell it's just really for attention and not really to
address the issue they say they are trying to address which is attachment parenting and extended breast feeding. >> it was done for 7ationalism but does it have any merit at all? is there any value to breast feeding that long? >> you know, i really think it's important. a lot of people think that you shouldn't breast feed that long because they are uncomfortable with it but we have to think about what's important for the child. the world health organization recommends breast minglk up until the age of 2. they suggest getting milk from another mother before feeding your infant formula. so, you know, you have to think about how is this affecting the child, you know, healthwise? >> well, i hear that. at the same time, i think i would have to guess that most babies start on solid food or get off breast milk by the time
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smwia.org. mitt romney giving the commencement address down at liberty university. >> that's right. a candidate for president who is speaking at the world's largest christian university. what the hell is going on? here to tell us. a good friend. the head of americans united for separation of church and state the reverend berry lynn. >> it's nice to be back. >> thank you for coming in so early this morning. this is like a ritual that republican candidates have to do? right? >> right. mitt romney had to do it even more because mitt romney knows that there is a huge difference of theological opinion between what mormons believe and all of the students at liberty university means. he admitted there is a difference in theology here he said in an interview after the
speech, a significant difference in theology here he wanted to say i know there is a difference here don't ask me, too much about it. that didn't work very well. he tried to do a jack kennedy speech explaining why he would not listen to the headquarters in salt lake, he would care about the constitution it pretty much was a flop. he should not repeat that. he gets the biggest applause line when he says, to distinguish himself from president obama, marriage one man and one woman. he says it. he also uses the phrase religious freedom. he said can you believe that's a con vo jersey. what it means to right-wingers is not just the freedom to worship. it is, we want to get as much of your tax money as humanly possible and we don't want obey any rules, regulations or civil rights laws we don't like. >> that's the new definition.
he said something where it was just basically saying that christian values. right? >> yes. >> what we live by. >> that's right. >> that's what makes america great. >> let me think about, aren't there some other faiths around here that? >> there are a few. he couldn't go too far in this speech. he could not say something like oh, by the way, i want to ban all contraception. i want to take 50 shades of gray out of every library because people would recognize instantly he is a very far right character. he had to be a little bit moderate but had to use that religious freedom language get the money, don't obey the laws and he had to make an you unequivocal distinction. >> there is no greater force for good in the nation than christian conscience in action. >> if i were a jew i would be
offended. i think one should be. of course, the christian action that he likes is the action promotest mode like people like jerry fall well. he was phrased extraordinarily long during the beginning of this speech. most of the networks didn't carry that part. he said here was a man who was never afraid, he said of facing an argument and never hated an adversary. a guy who debated jerry fallwell, i think he did hate me as a matter of fact. i really do he was not always the most pleasant person in the world. i can tell you that. >> the this inc. about his appearance at liberty university to me was i thought four years ago, berry, that in the presidential election we didn't see -- they were there, but they were not the dominant force, meaning the religious right and evangelcals but they are back with a ven answer this time. why
why. >> they were supporting most people claim to be picked by god. we had at one point, four people running for the presidency that said god had told them they would be the next president. in rick santorum's case was god told his wife. his wife told rick. none of them turned out to be the chosen one. >> it was santorum bachmann. >> yeah. >> perry. >> and herman cain. >> four. count them. that was the famous line in a movie, an apparent failure to communicate. but, you know, they thought it for a while. this energizes the right. with mitt romney they have to understand, and i think some of the commentators this weekend are correct. when push comes to shove there is going to be a question about
what evangelical voters want to do. will they vote for a mormon or a muslim because at least 25% of them still think barack obama is one. >> in their official name, they have the name jesus christ of latter day saints. right? they have the name jesus christ in the name of their faith. but do most -- to evangelicals consider mormons christians? >> they don't. in general, they do not. william jeffers last october here in washington clearly believes mitt romney is a nice guy but he is not a christian and shouldn't act like he is. frankly at liberty university in some of the classes that are taught at liberty, they specifically teach that mormonism is one of the largest and there, therefore, most significantly dangerous cults in
america. so there is something to get over. the washington post profiled in part a young woman at liberty who said i am not going to the speech on saturday because i am not going to listen to somebody who is a member of a cult speaking at my university. >> for those people who still don't accept more mons as christians, are they likely to vote for romney only because or despite that fact bothvote for him because he is not barack obama? >> i think that that's the hope that the campaign has and i think that they recognize that some of these issues i think the whole major equal thety decision most people are not going to vote on that. but they are going to vote on a cluster of issues and frankly mitt romney looks like the bottom line of his positions is indistinguishable from those of you know, the fallwell who now runs the liberty university of tony perkins or most of those guys who have all of the sudden
come over to the romney camp in the last two weeks in ways that were quite surprising. >> talk about people who were back? here on one of the shows yesterday is ralph reid. more lives than a cat? >> yes he does. yes, he does. >> with all of the jack abramoff, couldn't get elected in georgia. on and on. now, he has somebody to put up money for some new organization. >> yeah. >> faith and freedom, i think it's called, good words, you know. good aliteration. >> preaching we are a christian nation founded on judeo-christian principles, we have always been a christian nation and people like you and this is rick santorum's thing, trying to keep faith out of the public square.
>> absolutely guilty as charged? >> no. i would like to see us conduct a commander in chief, not a theologian in chief. >> not to -- >> we are not a christian of nation. the treaty of tripoli signed by the fifth congress says clearly this was in no way formed as a christian nation. >> signed by john adams. >> of course unanimously passed. in the united states senate today, i am sure senator cornon would probably object to that characterization start an entire filibuster about it and tie up the senate for the rest of the year. but it was not a big deal because, of course we weren't formed as a christian nation. we reject the idea of putting jesus in the constitution. a few people wanted it. it didn't happen. we had from the very beginning article 6, no rewill you know os test for public office and we add to it, ratified by the
states. the first amendment: congress shall make no laws permitting the -- preventing the free exercise thereof. >> all of the founding fathers were christians, that's what they say. it's a bld-face law. >> george went with martha to church. he didn't take communion. he was frequently seen outside of the church smoking. so, you know, there is an excellent new book about presidents and their religion and you would be surprised. people don't understand, andrew jackson, a tough guy, probably loved a tough god. he wouldn't even even pray when there was a cholera epidemic. he said that's not my job. i am the president, not the minister of some church. it goes on and on.
euless ual /* ulyssis s grant and there was an extraordinarily long history of separation in this country. just that pals like ralph reid gary bauer i saw him on t.v. yesterday. they are all back and they are all promoting the same non-sense they promoted 20 years ago. >> gary fowler. >> gary bauer. ref rend berry lynn is our guest. this issue faith and politics, we have been struggling with this for the last 250 years. and even more so today perhaps. 866-55-press. your comments and the right-wing religious right is back with a vengeance. trying to elect mitt romney. we will be right back and take your calls. >> this is the full court press, the bill press show, live on
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upholding the constitution. i am a proud member and encourage you to become one as well. berry, i want to think we are just jump -- i don't want you to think we are dumping on the protestants and the religious right. this article, i notice the other day, this the catholic bishops came out saying nuns are out of control. >> yeah. >> because they dared support president obama's health carry ryelegislation. the latest target is catholic bishops have decided they are going after the girl scouts. >> ce. >> they think the girl scouts are out of line. >> they do. the girl scouts are out of line because they don't require that you believe in god in order to be a girl scout. the boy scouts still technically do although some individual troops wink and nod if someone says not so sure about that but the girl scouts have kind of gotten over that. one of the things that has happened with the catholic church and the girl scouts somebody discovered a pamphlet
produced by planned parenthood that was distributed in conjunction. it's a pretty 10tenuous connection in new york city and this has become the evidence, the hard evidence, that there is some kind of secretive union between planned parenthood and the girl scouts, probably promoting contraception. as you know, the bishops these days pretty much believe any form of contraception is abortion-inducing. so it's the same as supporting abortion. >> i mean how far from the new testament can these people get? right? when they go after the girl scouts? >> no. for all of the -- you know, my son was an eagle scout and scouting has a lot of good things to do for girl scouts and boy scout's but to attack this the religious right has done this on occasion in the past but it seems as such a fringy action to take but now the bishops are joining the fringe one more time. >> while you are here, let's say
hello to bob calling from philadelphia. >> good morning. how are you? >> good. thank you. wafts u your point? >> i wanted to comment. i am glad to see you guys having this conversation. there are so many people in the public arena today that are try to put religion into politics. it's not to see a reverend there, someone fairly moderate and sensible trying to call attention to the things. i see you talking about the girl scouts now. a moderate person religious person trying to be sensible about the whole issue and not let it rule their thinking and just be a reasonable person in general. >> i appreciate that comment, bomb. thanks so. >> thanks, bob. >> it works both ways it seems to me. >> yeah. >> that's what people have to understand about separation of church and state. it's good for the churches but it's also good for the government. >> it's good for both. there is no doubt about it. >> that's the way it was designed. it was supposed to make sure that government didn't have to
take theological positions because government had limited abilities to do that and also to allow individual churches as well as movements within the united states to get started. we have 2,000 different religions in this country. 20 million non-believers. we kind of got it right. why would we want to screw it up. >> organized religion has thrived. probably as much as any other country in the planet. not more. part of it is because we have the separation of church and state which is so important to maintain and to preserve and to protect. last week, a pastor from florida made a little bit of news. his name is pastor sean harris who says we can't let our kids become homosexuals and if you notice that that they are, here is what you have to do berry. >> when you arer little son starts to act a little girlish and instead of squashing that like a cock roach and saying man up
get outside and dig a ditch. >> that's what boys do. >> yeah. >> you get out the camera and you start taking pictures of johnny acting like a female and then you up load it to youtube and everybody laughs about it and the next thing you know this dude, this kid is acting out fantasies that should have been squashed. >> yes. >> squash it like a bug. squash it like a cock roach. >> not only don't spare the rod but put it on youtube. i am a little confused by his theology. i wasn't sure if he was suggesting you put it on youtube in order to humiliate your son or whether that he thought some parents put it up because they thought it was cute like puppies falling into washing millions or whatever is hot these days. >> sometime when we have more time we will have to talk about how idiots like this are
ordained pastors. maybe self higher ordained. >> they could be but they could be in churches. remember the united methodist church refused to give up its ban on gay clergy had a big con conference two weeks ago. there is a lot of education that needs to be ton. >> you are doing great work berry lynn thank you so much. americans united au.org. we will be right back. >> this is the bill press show.
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a cover storying showing a woman breast feeding her son. this woman says there is nothing wrong with this. it's just normal. really? breast feeding a 3-year-old? hey, we will talk about that and a whole lot more here on the full-court press, but first, we get the latest. to the's headlines in this current tv news update in los angeles with jacki schechner. hi, jacki. >> hi, bill. good morning everyone. the defense starts its case in the john edwards trial on the list of possible first witnesses, former sec chairman cot thomas and ex edwards torn wade smith. there is no word on whether he had wards, himself, will take the stand. he is charged, of course with using close to a million dollars in campaign funds to hide his affair with reel hunter while he was running for president. the defense is that while he did was wrong, it was not actually illegal.
congressional hearings are now set for may 23rd a week from wednesday in the secret service scandal, senator joe lieberman, the chairman of the homeland security committee says there will be three questions that should come up in those hearings. the first: is the inspector general satisfied with the investigation investigation? is there any indication of prior bad behavior on behalf of the secret service that would have led to expectations that took place in cardajena? what are the plans to make sure this doesn't happen again? there is a new gallup poll showing a majority of americans, 54%, believe that gay and lesbian relationships are morally acceptable. 50% believe in gay marriage. this is up from levels as low as 40% as recently as 2008 and 2009. gallup making the point that public support of same-sex relationships is at a point where president obama's
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nation's capitol here bringing you the big stories of the day whether it's happening here in our nation's capitol around the country, or around the planet and taking your calls at 866-55 press, the full court press, the only progressive morning show anywhere on cable television. nice to have you with us today and so happy to welcome back in studio molly ball as political reporter for the atlantic a frequent guest on the show. saw you last time in richmond virginia, where we were both covering the president's kickoff. hi molly. >> good to see you. >> thank you for coming back. >> good to have you. i had a nice weekend, a nice mother's day. my two-year-old remembered the flowers. he is not in the dog house. they need a little head. are you telling me did not buy those with his own personal
2-year-old credit card. >> delivered on the steps. >> exactly. >> joined by our team here as always peter ogburn dan henning. >> hi. >> cyprian boulding. >> my 4-year-old tried to make scrambled eggs and through them in the trash. i made him start from scratch. you can't have them work a good breakfast line any more. : i think it has to be bad parenting. >> i don't know about that. we were up in new york city this weekend visiting friends and seeing theater. i have to tell you two magnificent broadway proxies. if you are anywhere, i have to tell any of our listeners and all of our viewers and you guys to rainbow end of the rainbow, the story of judy garland, her kind of last performance, last days when she was pretty much
the end of her career, reaching down inside, despite the drinking and pulling off an incredible performance. tracy bennett, a young british woman. we went back stage and met her after the show. she is incredible. she is nominated for best actress on broadway. if she doesn't get it, there is no justice in the world. just fab lus. friday night we saw a play called cliburn park. remember when we had frank rich on the show and i asked him what was good on broadway and he said you have to see cliburn park. it was 1 of the funniest plays i have ever seen and a powerful message. it's all about racial integration and it's like the first part of the play, blacks moving into the chicago neighborhood and second half of the neighborhood is 40 years later there are some whites moving into the black
neighborhood. same neighborhood and the same five people play both first act and second act. it's just very very clever. cliburn parknologinated for best play, by the way. no. no, ma'amminated -- yeah, best play and end of the rainbow, tracy bennett nominated for the best actress. my recommendations for the day. >> there it is. >> anywhere in the new york area or if you can get to new york i highly recommend those two. >> plus a lot of other good stuff. death of a salesman porgy & bess. love going up there. it's an easy train ride from washington d.c. >> molly ball as a friend of bill for the whole hour. we have lots to talk about. we are going to be joined by mckay. is it? >> mckay coppins from buzzfeed down at liberty university with mitt romney over the weekend but first: >> this is the full court press. >> in sports lebron james was honored with his third nba mvp
on saturday. he is now one of only one basketsball players to win at least three most valuable players awards. he is the first player on the miami heat to receiver one. he had one of the best seasons of his career averaging 27 points, 8 rebounds and six assists for a game, they won game 1 against the indiana pacers yesterday. >> all right. phenomenal player. >> yeah. >> i hate him. >> you still hate him. >> my hatred is so thick and rich, you could poor it over pancakes. i cannot stand the guy. >> you admit he is a good player? >> he is a fantastic player. i don't think he deserved the mvp. i think kevin durant should have got. >> president obama had a pick-up game of basketball friday before leaving after the george clooney. he shot hoops with clooney and toby mcguire. saturday, came home, hit the golf course with vice president joe biden. they played at joyce -- joint
base andrews with biden's son hunter and trip direct areo marvin nicholson. >> sunday the president didn't leave the white house. >> jessica simpson had a her baby two weeks ago and people magazine wants the first photos. new york daily news reporting, the magazine is paying simpson $800,000 to blood pressure these exclusive pictures of her new daughter, maxwell drew johnson. may sound like a good chunk of change but a far cry from the $6 million that that magazine paid jennifer lopez in 2008 for her twins, first notes. >> did you get money. >> the thing is, they all look the same except mine who was cute. most look about the same molly,
on the political front the issue seems to be about speculation what the political impact ofpom's about biden forced him to. >> one of the things that hasn't been talked about is the messaging on this is going to be really important. i think amount of things are up in the air rather than looking and saying this many for and this many against it, there are a lot of people who are a little bit more mushork this issue, maybe in transition maybe evolving in the same way the president has been so the way he talks about it and the extent it gets talked about and the way the republicans and/or, you know, the social conservatives
on the right push this or don't push it or talk about it i think that's going to determine a lot of where people end up lining up on this. when the vice president talked about it, he talked about visiting the homes of gay couplesnd seeing the love those kids had for their parents and the parents had for the kids and when the president talked about it, he talked about members of the military. they can be free to be themselves but not free actually to marry their partners members of the military. so they both approached it, you know, a little differently. but from that angle rather than sounding like they were at the latest gay pride parade. >> some look at this issue and say when you talk about this in terms of relationships and love
and commitment, those are the things that straight people relate to. they say that's something i want in my own life. a mistake that the gay rights have talked about it in terms of hospital rights and pensions and legal rights people see as not the reason that they get married. most people with a to do it because of the social committee. how far it's going into which gay relationships were accepted. you couldn't talk about 10 years ago in the same way. it wasn't as accepted. there weren't as many people, you know everyone didn't have someone in their own lives they could say, oh, yes, i have a gay
relative or a gay friend who has this loving committed relationship. so i know that that's we talked to aaron who had brin a recent gallup poll, six out of 10 americans said the president's decision wouldn't have any impact at all on how they voted for president which shows it's not 8 out of 10 but 6 out of 10. we have con a along way when all of these ballot measures were on the ballot and it looked like it was the number one explosive social issue you see you did a large voc he will segment of voters. it's clear that's not the case any more. i think that's also what the
president and the republicans are sort of banking on because the president doesn't want to talk about this too much. there are intoning states. the republicans don't want to talk about this either. >> that's another thing that has changed in the polling on this research on this issue is that, you know a few years ago when you talked to people about this issue, they were very concerned with not being associated with the hard-core advocates of gay rights, that that was seen as fringy or extreme. now you hear they do not want to be associated with the opponents either. so people who oppose gay marriage will say to polsters or researchers, i have gay friends, you know, i am tolerant. i am not a bigot. people want to make clear that's the case. the republicans don't want to get pigeonholed that way. >> republicans have to know the
train is moving in the direction of marriage equality look at state after state. six states plus the district of columbia. they don't want to get too far. >> they have it in the other direction. >> no doubt about that. i hope it's reversed. too bad. >> i think you are right. everybody things it's inevitable. >> isn't it? isn't it true that barney frank yesterday, i think he was on this week, peter yeah, do we have that? here is barney saying, what impact this will have on the election. barney says not. >> if you were going to cast your vote based upon a candidate's position regarding same-sex marriage, you were already going to vote for obama or romney based on that. >> making the point that those
who are against this would never vote for obama anyhow. >> that's true but you talked about that gallup poll that found 60% say it's not going to affect their vote. that poll found of the 40%, said it would affect their vote. 13% said it would make them more likely to support obama. 23%, i think, nearly twice as many said it would make them less likely to support obama. and you had a story, i believe, in the homes obama trying to reach out to the black evangelical issue on this community and getting some push back, saying this is going to make it harder for us to get out the vote for you. right. this isn't something that pushes people in the other direction. >> isn't the issue going to be the economy? >> absolute. >> that's why. >> that's the biggest reason for that 60% number is that there are bigger things on people's
minds than these. >> molly ball political writer for "the atlantic," talking about political repercussions of the president's decision on same-sex marriage, 866-55 press. if you have an opinion about that you want to share give us a call. i also want to ask you, molly, about -- and you have written about this, too, the tea party, they are really feeling their oats again after knocking off dick lugar in indiana and are we likely to see a tea party takeover attempt to take over the u.s. senate. we will be right back here on bill press. i am bill press with molly ball your calls coming up next. >> radio meets television the bill press show. now on current tv.
♪ >> radio meets television the bill press show. >> thirty five minutes after the hour hour, president obama giving the commencement address, mckay was there from buzzfeed. molly ball here, a friend of bill, political writer for the atlantic. we have been talking about the political waives may be made by president obama's support of same-sex marriage. do you think it helped joe biden's reputation? >> it's interesting. to the extent he has a
reputation as a loose canon it helps that. right? it just under scores that. i don't know how people see joe biden. >> i think did helped him more than that, i must say. i think it helped him as somebody who is an independent thinker and. >> pushing the president in the right direction. >> maybe a little ballsier than some of these. >> i thought it was interesting that there was this public production made out of the fact that he apologized it sealed like a ritual humiliation for him. >> i know. i don't think they should have put it throughhim through that. otto from out in reno nevada. good morning. >> how are you guys? >> okay. what do you think? >> two things, one, i am calling from a western state that borders california and the joke is out here california may be a state in the west, but it's not a western state. we have a substantial mormon
population. in fact in my state. there is a mormon temple five blocks down the road from where i live. maybe i misunderstood, you guys said the republican party, their stand on gay marriage they know their time was doomed on that, they were living on borrowed time, that eventually this is going to happen. my question is: how can you really believe that when we see 37, 38, almost 80% of the states have banned it in their constitutions? >> i am one who said, i think, that republicans see that this is going in the direction of marriage equality. those 30 states didn't. north carolina is the latest but six states recently in the last two years, i think, actually, including big state of
new york have gone toward marriage equality. so has the district of columbia. remember, california did, too, until the courts threw it out. buzz getting rid of don't ask/don't tell i think there are tons of evidence that the american public is more to rapt. >> i think he is right to point out we are not there yet. you hear someone like mike huckabee or other social conservatives have said this is inevitable because of the demographics of it. >> that's right. >> people under 40 overwhelmingly favor gay marriage. people over 665 are overwhelmingly against it. those are pretty stable numbers. so i think the consensus is those people who are young now and who have been raised in a more accepting environment continue to age. they will continue to favor gay marriage.
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as a friend of bill. she is political writer for "the atlantic" joining us from buzzfeed.com. you know mitt romney gave the commencement address at liberty university, the world's largest christian university this weekend. covering that for bus feed, mckay coppins who joins us on our news line this morning, mckay, good morning. >> good morning. >> hi mckay. >> you know each other from the campaign trail? >> we do. >> this was a big moment for mitt romney. what did he talk about? how did he do? >> you know, he did pretty well. it was really actually especially kind of the history of mormonism and evangelical christianity kind of a historic moment. he came there to reach out to the evangelical community which he struggled with throughout his political career and to try to kind of bridge the divide between his mormon faith and the
evangelical conservative community. and the people i talked to afterwards said, you know, he had he had good speech writers, it was a good speech and they seem like they are willing to support him as a presidential candidate but they weren't quite ready for any kind of theological gap between mormonism and their faith. >> as a matter of fact there are some. some earlier today, there are actually courses taught at liberty university that mormonism is a cult and not a church. right? >> right. >> they are a little leery of mormonism? >> in fact, i found one of the classes in the course catalogue there theology 678 which says major cults such as mormonism, christian science, 7th day and the occult. they are teaching about
mormonism along with the occult movement shows how they view mormonism and mitt romney's faith there at liberty. >> there was a lienne in the speech, romney acknowledging theological differences where usually, it seems like his appeal has been to say to social conservatives, i am one of you. and by acknowledging that that seemed to get a good response, that he wasn't trying to do this dance because a lot of the problem that evangelicals seem to have with mormons is this whole cult issue, mormons trying to say that they are full-fledged christians and evangelicals not believing that. >> that's an interesting point because in 2007, he gave a sort of similar speech to, you know to kind of try to make this mormon issue go away. >> right. >> he did try to appeal to their shared christianity and said, you know, i am a crist just like you. i believe in jesus just like
that. you. that did not go well because if you believe mormonism is a cult you don't want to hear this guy say, no. no. no. we are the same. so this time around, he tried to steer clear of that. he said, look we have different face but we are united by christian principles. they did go over a little better. a lot of the attendees i talked to felt like he was reaching for, you know, a unifying kind of alliance that they weren't ready to make. >> mccain is a political writer for buzz feed down at liberty university this weekend. let's be honest, guys. isn't it what mitt romney was really saying? i may be a cultist? right? i may practice a cult but at least i am not barack obama? >> yeah. that's actually the most interesting thing i found. i spent a few days at liberty university hanging out on campus and talking to students.
>> oh, my god. >> i fully sub mercied myself there and i found that, you know, these are not just -- you know, the students and just being trained to be good christians. they are trained to be conservative culture warriors. they are still going to church to vote for thevan presidential candidates. but to do so, they kind of had to do these. there is a lot of cognitive dissidents and theological gymnastics going on to try to figure out how they can biblicallily justify voting for a cultist. there are a lot of interesting conversations going on citing scriptural ways for them to vote for this non-christian in their minds. >> have any other presidents been at liberty? >> michelle bachmann was there.
>> of course. >> herman cain came more than once almost every one but i am not sure rick santorum did. you had almost every presidential can data come through there. they had a long history of having them pay their dues at liberty. >> what did you make of the next of gay marriage? because apparently, it got a very good response just that romney gave a shout out to traditional marriage but to me it felt sort of dropped in there. there was no context of it, no explanation of it. he didn't give any kind of reasoning behind it. it was like by the way, marriage is between a man and woman. moving on. >> that's totally what it was. he had to mention that. that was one thing to rally the states. >> that's the distinction between him and obama. i think the reason he didn't dwell on it frankly is because
he doesn't want to get sucked into campaign about social issues. it's about the economy. if he thinks he is on the right side of this issue he didn't want to make it about gay marriage. he tried to appease the base and tried to move on. i think that will be his strategy. >> is it your sense they will be satisfied with that? because they do want him to campaign on this. rick santorum said take this ball and run with it. right? this is our issue. put your whole campaign around this. you know, if rick santorum had given that commencement speech it would have been nothing but about gay marriage and abortion and birth control. >> right. they would have loved it. there are a lot of santorum supporters on campus pretty disappointed you see he is not the nominee. i think frankly they wish he
would campaign on it but my sense is regardless of what happens they are going to turn out for him. the way that, you know the campains work these days like you can have surrogates, super p.a.c.s going out there and kind of making its way for you without him making it putting it in a stump speech. i think that's how they will do it. >> are you still on campus? >> no. >> okay. >> back in sec ulaw lar new york. >> i am glad you esc ain'ted. we were going to send a posse down to rescue you. that guy is being held by the taliban. >> very nice. they were very nice. >> i don't know if they wanted him any more than he wanted to be there. >> they didn't exactly. they were very friendly. >> we are glad you are back in the secular world there. politics reporter with buzz fees field. follow him at buzz feed.com and
his twitter handle is@mckay copin. >> thank you for having me on. >> see you. >> i don't know. a speech wasn't bad nuenough but a couple of days ahead of time, that's why and beyond the call of duty. >> i don't know. those are the fun experiences, visiting we call that character building. >> right. linda from sharptown maryland. >> good morning. >> what's up? i just had kind of an epiphany or something this weekend. i was enjoying a baseball game. the same-sex marriage was at the back of my mind but it occurred to me what a societal change it was when jackie robinson joined the big lead. this is the same kind of change.
and as i washed the game i couldn't imagine what we would be, what it would be like without black players. and i think that same-sex marriage is such a natural change, there will come a time when you won't be able to believe the other situation ever existed. >> i think you are right. the question is: when will that time happen? and it's certainly not going to happen before november the 6th 2012? right? >> the point, for a lot of people, linda. >> yes. >> molly? >> i think linda has a good point in that the change comes to the culture before it comes to the politics a lot of the time and that when people become more accepting and when people see around them these differences or these people that they accept as fully human and equal, that's when the politics
changes. it comes through the culture. >> the reason the change is occurring now in my humble opinion, right, is not because people went to their constitution or to their bible or whatever and said i am read reading this wrong. it's because they have a sister. they have a son. they have a daughter or they had friends. they have neighbors. >> with all due respect, too, it's not will and grace. it's in people's personal lives. >> that's it. >> people coming out. >> that's what it is. they say we want them to have the rights we do. we don't want them treated any differently. it's happening around the country. molly ball is here as a friend of bill. you are, too. got a seat at the table for you. give us a call at 866-55-press. >> this is the bill press show. connectamillionminds.com it takes people with real
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♪ >> heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the bill press show. monday may 14, '12 minutes before the top of the hour winding up here, molly ball is in studio with us political writer for "the atlantic." she has been out on the road following most of the candidates in the primary. >> uh-huh we were in richmond virginia on president obama kickoff day. he has been doing campaigning since. he has two more events this evening. >> that's right. >> in new york. the president is out with a new ad today. >> a tough new ad. very tough. >> going right up against mitt
romney. this is interesting. they are not waiting for the convention. >> we have not seen anyone sort of play the polite forbearance card. >> romney has been running againstbam from the very beginning in the primary did as much as he could to ignore his republican opponents. >> rye. >> president obama flying out on the press plane everybody says do you think he will mention romney by name? i said, of course he is. he did. there inand in richmond guys after what they think is romney's achilles heel. his job record. >> i was a steel worker for 30 years. we had a reputation for quality products. it was something that was american made. we weren't rich but i was able to put my daughter through college. >> a good paying job you can support and raise a family on is
hugely important. >> i know how business works, how they come and go. bain capital was the major one. they were involved it's a steel mill in kansas city that bain capital invested in and leveraged and eventually the company went bankrupt and people lost their jobs. >> the point is this is a guy who sells himself as mr. fix it. i am a businessman. i know the economy. i know how to create jobs and his record shows? >> the case they are making is it's not about creating jobs. it's about creating wealth. it's about piling up money. at the same time bleeding the economy dry and hurting workers hurting the middle class. >> shutting down jobs exporting jobs, shutting down plants. >> outsourcing. >> putting people out of work and i mean factually correct? >> i have not had a chance to look at all of the facts behind
this particular case in this ad but this is, you know, something that was used against romney '94 and in the senate case against ted kennedy of the it was devastated and used against him in this primary when you had the gingrich super p.a.c. made that big ad about it. and i think it had some effect in south carolina as well. there were a lot of other factors going on. so we knew this was coming but i think still, it's a devastating thing. it's a tough thing for the romney people to fend off. >> at a time shows that from the beginning, right the obama 23u8 bore. they are not taking anything for granted. >> absolutely. they are attacking romney on his strengths, i think, you know, instead of sort of anybody elsing around the edges or filing things to argue. there has been plenty of that but taking head-on the sort of number 1 credential, the number 1 qualification romney is venting and trying to make a
broader policy. they are starting up a website, i believe it's romneyeconomics, making the case his whole economic philosophy centers around this kind of thing. it's not just a case of, you know, he did some things when he was in business. it's about the way he views capitol capitolism. >> at indiana last week dick lugar, six terms in the senate senate one of the 7th term voters said no, they chose instead as a republican nominee richard mourdock a prouted republican. saying he is not sure he is going to vote for mitch mcconnell were elected. bi-partisan means democrats do what republicans want. the tea partyers who have taken over the u.s. house likely to take over the u.s. senate? >> yes and no. there was a lot of sort of tea party triumphfalism after lugar lost and i think amount of
people have flashbacks when there were so many senate primaries. >> right. >> in delaware? >> >>. >> right? >> in colorado perhaps, where the tea party helped nominate candidates who turned out to be unpal unpalatable to the general electorate but they elected at of people who are u.s. senators like marco rubio and mike lee. >> rand paul. >> absolutely. who also started out as being the establishment saying this guy is unelectable. we can't let him win the primary. but i think the tea party is going to have a lot less of that sort of impact this year. if you look across the landscape of frames they were going after orrin hatch in utah. they managed to force him into a primary at the state convention but barely. he is going to win that primary. there is very little question that he wins that primary. so he will be whetheralmost definitely going back to the u.s. senate.
darking texasa vary vary hard. conservative rock star ted cruz. there is a possibility and there will be a lot of money poured into that race by the tea party and right-wing groups. it's a tough climb for them. it looks unlikely. when you look across the primary landscapetiously that's mostly the case. >> molly ball good of you to come in. >> all right. >> i will be back to wrap things up with a quick parting shot for today. >> on your radio, on t.v. the bill press show new on current tv.
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