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tour on june 9th, and be bringing my own show guilt a love story to minneapolis on june 16th. i understand there is a very special guest coming up next on "the war room" with jennifer grandholm. you know him you love him, vice president al gore. thanks for watching. >> i am jennifer granholm. tonight, in the war room game on! a special look at the 2012 presidential campaign. >> you know who the players are. you know what they are playing for. but what is the game plan? an all-star biphenyl will lay out the strategy for laywinning the white house. step one: get on offense. >> mitt romney. >> aerial attack is in full-swing. we are calling bain's number. what else do they have in the playbook? energy. the economy, swing states and
getting out the vote. it's big names talking about big issues, tonight in the war room! ♪ >> check it out. look who is sitting next to me, vice president al gore. guess what. he's going to be here the whole hour tonight, the 2012 elessly, a political junkie's dream. polls and policies and personalities and i want to begin with a look at the "new york times" electoral map. it has president obama with 217 electoral votes compared to mitt romney's 2006. remember, of course, you need 270 to clench the election. so this race is going to come down to the swing states, the ones that you see colored in yellow. a new nbc marist poll has obama leading romney in three key swing
states. florida, virg, obama leads 48 to 44%. ohio, margin is 48 to 42%. but we know a lot can change between now and the election. we are going to put it all in context. so glad that you are here to help bring perspective on it. >> yeah. >> you have run this gauntlet before. and it's the three swing states that were in the poll talked about today, ohio, florida, and virginia, are to be believed and the president is slightly nudging ahead, what advice would you give to him? obviously, we are a long way out from the key dates. >> yeah. i think that's an important point to start with. it's still early, but as you said at the beginning game on. it's already incredibly intense. i think that if i read the numbers right -- and who nodes how this is all going to shake out, that romney almost has to
win all three, and right now, i think the odds are that obama will win two of the three if not all three. but we will see a lot more cards turn up. this is a very close race. >> it is. in fact, karl rove wrote a column today in the wall street journal which described a path that he thought that romney could take to be able to get the 270 votes, and in that, romney would have to win all three rather than just one or two of them. >> i hate to agree with karl rove. >> plus a lot more as well. karl rove said he would have to win indiana. he would have to win north carolina, which is probably a little more likely but virginia and ohio and florida, that's a tougher nut to crack. and then he would have to win a few others. i think we can all agree, this is going to be a close race despite how -- what people are projecting this early out. >> yeah i think so.
virginia has become so much more competitive for democrats in recent years. partly because of the population surge in northern virginia, but also, for other reasons. and, of course president obama carried it handily last time around. >> yeah. >> with them going at one another so intense left-handly so early, it's going to be -- >> we are having a fun time doing it. in those three states, obviously ohio being a key state. >> yeah. >> one of the resonating ads or the discussion has been centered around bain capital. that issue of the economy. take a license to listen from one of the ads. we will talk about it on the other side. >> we have people in here that went back to wages they made 14
years ago. >> took our benefits. don't have any more retirement. bain, military romney doesn't care about us as workers. they were looking at the mighty dollar. >> so unemployment rate 8.1% nationally? >> yeah. >> is this the issue that you would be focusing on? with. >> well, i think that he almost has to because governor romney made a strategic decision to try to white watch his whole experience in government completely out of the public's mind. he was the governor of one of our larger states. now, why would he do that? well well, they were 47 in the job creation when he was governor. he had one genuine accomplishment, which was the package of his healthcare plan, which he promoted as a model for the country but he wants to attack president obama on the plan that was really based on the plan that governor romney
passed in massachusetts. and he wants to just forget that. and instead, he wants to campaign on the basis of his business experience. so -- >> he leaves people with no choice. >> i think that's right. and, of course, it's a textured record, private equity plays a legitimate role in our economic system. but those who really know a lot about that company will tell you that it really became much more of a leveraged buy-out company with a lot of instances where they loaded up companies with debt, pulled a lot of money for themselves out and in some cases, took them through managed bankruptcies and the workers lost their jobs. now, you can characterize that however you want to but since governor romney is trying to
characterize that record as a job-creating record -- >> gentlemen. >> -- the fact that it's really not. i mean it's really not. he wants to take credit for whatever jobs were created by companies that they invested in long after he left. >> right. >> but he wants to avoid any association with the jobs that were lost including the ones that were lost soon after he left the company. >> and this is the point, that job creation or job loss is really answer larry to the purpose of leveraged buy-out. >> of course. >> private equity. >> they searched they scoured the territory for the best targets that will maximize their return. >> yeah. >> whatever they can do to make money for their investors. it's not a job creation thing. the romney team said the attacks on bain capital are personal. >> well, no, of course not because again -- >> he's made an issue. >> he has put thistard forward as the basis of his candidacy.
it really cannot stand. i think, also after the long and difficult contest for the republican no, ma'amminationnomination, he largely has passed the point where he has had to answer for all of the 180 degree flip-flops on his positions on really important issues. of course, i think the public is now at the point where they kind of think, well people in politics, they change their positions and yes, they learn and evolve and so forth. but in his case he really took it to a whole -- >> whole another level? >> whole new level. really and truly. look impartsan and am did he have -- i am partisan and you would expect me to say this but his republican opponents made this point. i don't remember a candidate at the national level ever who took
so many really reversals on prominent issues. i think at some point, that will come come back to haufrnt him. >>. >> one of the people making the strongest case for the president about less flip-flopping than extremism, the surrogate. you have been there. joe biden, some people have made hay of some of the gaffes he has made. we only have a minute but talk quickly about what it's like to be a vice president and be your own person but be responsible for a whole administration. >> well, let me say that i think that joe biden has done a spectacular job. i really do. and i know that some criticized him for seeming to get in front of the president on the gay marriage issue. you know, in parliamentary systems they have a device where
they say certain votes are votes of conscience where it's so central to somebody's personal beliefs they are kind of given some leeway. i think this ought to be put in a category like that. you know, i admire him for doing it. i really do it was an express of conscience. i think people thought good for him and whatever the west wing thought, it will end up, i believe, helping the president. >> we are going to talk about that with our next guess as well. so hang on everybody. we will talk about urban jobs and the latino vote and gay marriage and the democratic national convention. rare, indeed, is the man who can expertly discuss all of those issues. we have one in the house and one who will join us by satellite los angeles mayor ant own yes villaragosa. he will join us after the break. a little later, we will examine the environment, from a campaign
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♪ >> you are back in the war room. i am jennifer granholm along with vice president al gore. our researchers today came across a very interesting statistic. according to the national association of latino elected officials, 12.2 million more latinos are expected to vote in the november election than they were when they voted in 2008. >> that's a 26% -- 26% increase from four years ago. >> that's easily the nation's fastest growing voting block. the latin 0 vote will be critical in several of the swing
states we have been talking about as well. joining the conversation is mayor antonnio villaragosa, los angeles first latino mayor in 130 years. obviously et cetera coming from la. we are glad to be able to welcome you inside the war room. >> with the young turks over here to my left. >> he havewe have the turks in la, the war room here and we have also got view point with eliot spitzer in new york. so we cover the country here at current tv. so glad to have you. i just was describing how this latino voting block has grown, and do you account for that? do you account for that by just growing demographics? is there another reason that we can see that level of growth? >> the biggest driver is the growing demographics without question. the fact that the latino population is younger and so it's getting of age now more and more that as well, and
then, of course, there have been concentrated efforts to organize that vote and register voters, but it's primarily demographics. >> that's exactly what i wanted to get to because there was a poll today from "the wall street journal" which said that 61% of the latin 0 voting block would choose president obama and 20% choosing mr. romney. and the question that has come up i think with a lot of organizers, and mr. president, you can attest to this too, from way back. does there need to be a different approach to the latino vote n terms of it get can out to vote? is there a special effort that needs to be targeted? and is the obama admin stration that doing that, mr. mayor? >> i think we are going to have to work. it's not a voting block per se. but 61% is a number that i saw in the wall street poll.
there have been other poles that have had it as high as 74. >> yes. >> if we are above 65, i expect the next president of the united states is going to be president obama, but we've got our work cut out for us. we have to invest in register that vote, mobilizing them getting them to the polls. i have also seen other poles that say they are not as excited about the election so we are going to have to get them excited on the issues. >> how do we do that? >> tell the story. 9 million people will benefit from the president's medical plan. 2 million people out of poverty because of his stimulus. 150 latinos in, in college because of pel grants that the president helped to fund. those are some ways to do it on the issues. >> and on the potentially dangerous side, mr. vice president vice president, you were a very early supporter of gay marriage.
obviously, mr. mayor, you were as well. mr. president, do you believe that that risks in some way low lowering the enthusiasm among the highland park highland park and the african-american community? >> i actually doubt that because it has become a basic core civil rights issue. and i think when you experience an act of courage like the one that president obama sdmonstrated, it creates its own energy field. it changes a lot of opinions that might not have changed otherwise. but i think that, you know, the latino voters are going to vote mainly on the economic issues. i am assuming you would agree, mr. mayor, but i do think that there has been a feeling attached to governor romney as a result of the dialogue during the contest for the nomination because the tea party extreme
right drove all of those count candidates to try to outdo one another in expressing hostility, to immigrants action particularly to latino immigrants. governor romney called for people to vowel luntarily self-deport themselves. i think those and others, against the dream act, which is obviously the best interest of our country for everyone and i think that there is a kind of a lingering aftermath of that that is partly responsible for this incredibly large gap in the polls that we are seeing now. >> so, i am wondering mr. mr. mayor, the karl roves and his merry band of billion airs have a bunch of super p.a.c.s out there spending targeted money. do you think they are going to target the latino and the urban voters? have you seen any evidence of that? >> yes.
i think first of all, let me answer that question as well. i agree with the vice president. the economy is going to drive the vote for virtually every demographic group but i do think when you look at the positions that governor romney is supporting, the self-deportation of 11 million people. no country in the world has deported in that way 11 million people. when you call it the dream act, a handout, to go to the military and defend your current tree go to college and contribute to the economy, when he calls that a handout, that is beyond the pale. when he stood there as cain talked about electrifying the next along the sworedborder and didn't offer a word to say hold it. >> that's not what we are about. >> that's not the values we rep practice september. i think latinos are concerned about the rethetoric but also the
policies of romney. with respect to the super p.a.c.s, it's clear what they are going to do. they are going to try to depress the vote. they have voter suppression looks across the country. we know that. they are going to target the vote and suppress it. one of the arguments i have heard them make is that we weren't able to get a comprehensive immigration reform when we had a majority. they will drive that home again and again. and i don't think the lat archo electorate or most people are going to buy those arguments but yes, they are going to spend a lot of money trying to suppress that vote because they know that in the end they don't have the policies to get broad support in that community. >> well, you are the chairman of the democratic national convention and obviously, that's going to be in north care look a and there is a question there about did are there has been a question among the progressive community about whether it should be moved and all of that. i assume that's far too late to be able to make that decision.
but i do have a question about who you think the democratic -- the dnc is going to elevate for future, upcoming leadership. it's often a place where these leaders are profiled. will you be speaking? will there be others who you want to tell us about? >> well, there are a couple of people on the national scene. i think most of them are in cities frankly. look, most people feel that washington is irrelevant to people in cities and states across the nation. when i look at some of the new leaders, i think of michael nutter in philadelphia julio castrow in san antonio people on the cutting edge. >> cory booker? >> cory booker is a talented mayor as well. those are some of the people i would think about. >> you can't probably get ahead of your skis as the president would say on revealing -- >> i can't get ahead of my skis. i am not going to tell you that
any of that, those -- who is going to speak is even something we are reminnesotalily thinking about. >> i will glad we are going to see a lot of mayor villaragosa on t.v. at the convention. great choice to make him head of it. >> we want to talk about urban issues, what mayors are dealing with, especially in los angeles. so gentlemen, stay where you are. after the break, we will turn to jobs, jobs jobs and hopefully more jobs. this is the war room, and it's only on current tv.
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it's going to take some time for the economy to fully recover, more time than a lot of us would like. there are plenty of steps that we can take right now steps that we must take right now to speed up this recovery and to create jobs and restore some of the financial security a lot of families have lost. >> that was pompom today in newton, iowa reminding us that job creation is tough work. it requires congressional help and it takes time. he shouldn't expect much of that in the months ahead in terms of congressional cooperation. but back for a look at how the road to recovery intersects with the load to the white house is former president al gore and los angeles mayor antonio villaragosa, chair of president obama's election campaign. mayor, the issue about job creation is a tough one, particularly for mayors, the
unemployment rate in l.a. i know has not ant' been blow 8% and california at 11%. how tough is it now, especially as a co-chair to defend in los angeles the president's job strategy when that unemployment rate is so high? it's a tough balance i know i. >> i can defend the president's job strategy. the fact of the matter is the mayor,late last august, went to think tanks, democratic and republican, on the left and in the right and in the middle. and we asked them to come up with a number of ideas, initiatives for job creation in our cities. the president, ours can hewe called the common sense jobs agenda. the president put his plan together. actually, there was a lot of overlap. he talked about expanding exports. he talked about approving the free trade agreements. he talked about the need to provide the payroll tax cut, and
almost everything. those are some of the things congress actually cooperated with him on. the fact is, this congress has been missing in action when it comes to job creation. it's not just in this election year. it's been that way since they took over the house. in the senate, senator mcconnell said his number 1 job was to defeat the president, not to put the country back on track, not to create jobs we need not to work across the aisle to find a common ground strategy to put people to work. i can tell you that in the cities we don't put the blame on the president but on a congress that has failed to act. >> that's encouraging to hear. >> mr. vice president, it's so frustrating to be a president or an executive and have opposition
in the congress and explain. it's a complicated message to explain to people. you are in charge. why haven't you fixed it yet? as a spokesperson, how do you get above a complicated message like that? >> it's simpler than a lot of people make it. the americans realize the tea party republicans have been pure restructionists. they have said no to everything. even to extending -- they tried to stop the expense of unemployment compensation for all of these people out of work when we need that extra demand in the scampeconomy. i think people also know that president obama did inherit the worst economic situation we have had since the great depression. yes, it's been several years but we don't work our way out of such a deep downturn in a very
shorted period of time. i think over time that message is going to get out. >> it has to be over time? right? >> when the other side is creating more of what created the problem, i don't think it's that difficult to get the message out. i think the president will succeed in doing so. >> mr. mayor, i think one of the ways people can see progress is through, for example, transportation projects. you have been a big advocate and have had some novel examples of how to create jobs in los angeles through that. how important is it for you to have a partner in the white house to get that stuff through? >> very important to have a partner in the white house, and we have in president obama up to this point, we haven't had a partner in the congress. in the middle of the recession, in november of 2008, i put a half-penny sales tax to improve our transportation system, double the side of our public
transit system, a half a million jobs over a period of time. then we realized we needed to accelerate that. i went to the congress and said, you have a transportation loan program currently underfunded at about $122 million a year. we ought to expand it to a billion at a time of high deficits and debt you can encourage cities and states to put up their own money, create jobs and we could create a million jobs with what we call america fast forward, the expansion of the tipia program. it has republican and democratic support in both houses, but it's stuck in the surface transportation bill that's been extended 10 time. talk about a congress thathas failed to act. so this is a million jobs in the surface transportation bill, a million jobs in the component america fast forward that would insent vise localityies for their own project. the congress has done nothing. the white house has been a
partner. we need congress to do their job as well. >> let me just say that mayor villaragosa has been a leader on this issue for a long time. when he was on the transit board, when he was speaker of the assembly in california, electric vehicles, mass transit that's more affordable, and as he says, it creates jobs. the president agrees that congress has been blocking it. theians andthe republicans have been blocking it. >> he could be the next department of transportation secretary is one of the many things or governor of california. he has all sort of potential. >> i am riding into the sunset. >> we don't believe t we are very grateful you joined us inside the war room. thank you so much for that and for the work that you are doing on behalf of getting the president re-elected? >> thank you both. i think a great deal of respect for both of you. thank you for the opportunity to come and chat with you a bit.
>> you bet. >> that's los angeles mayor villaragosa and coming up, we are going to twist the vice president's arm to see if we can get him to talk about energy. it's going to be hard. we will make it a one-two punch because van jones mr. green jobs, himself, is going to join us. it's the war room, and it's only on current tv. message created by a current tv viewer for hershey's air delight. >>during the blind taste tests today you'll be tasting five different kinds of chocolate. okay ladies, let's try chocolate number 4. it's the one right in front of you. >>oh! >>hurh! >>umm. >>okay now taste your final piece of chocolate. >>umm! umm! ohh! >>umm, ah-hum.
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>> the. >> the president called today on congress to finish their to-do list before they leave for the summer. specifically he is asking them to extend a tax credit that helps wind energy grow. it's called a proceed duction tax credit. some republicans, surprise, surprise, have no plans to complete their assignment. so here to talk about clean energy, the economy, and the president's all-of-the above energy strategy are the premier thinkers on this issue former vice president al gore, and, of course, former obama administration green jobs czar and co-founder of rebuild the dream, van jones. both of you welcome back inside the war room. >> glad to be here. >> glad to have you here i know you guys are old pals as well. we are all passionate about the same thing. >> the very first time i met you was in this building when you
first opened current tv. >> yeah. >> i was one of the thousands of people out there screaming, so it's good to be here. >> i am on the inside. >> let me start with the news of the day, of course, which is the president calling for the extension of this production tax credit. it's something we have all been talking about action but of course, he is dealing with an init is trans gent con congress. you were inside the admission stray stration. how kate president force these guys to do the right thing? >> this is one of those where he should just be spanking: you have red states and blue states that could benefit. to have any party in the government standing in the way of americans who have jobs right now. >> could lose their johns. >> that's the crazy thing. the crazy thing about it is, this is something good for red states and blue states. you have to produce a lot of those wind turbines in the blue stites but not going to put them up in manhattan.
deploy them in the red states. the rural communities could get 10,000 to 20,000 to watch a wind turbine turn. they will get knocked out and the those who manufacture them in the urban areas. >> ohio is one of the highest states in terms of wind protection jobs and john boehner, hello, it's your state that's going to be hurt. how do you get them to move? >> well, i think they are in hock to the oil and coal companies, and the fossil fuel industry has made it their mission to try to kill renewable energy. what van said is true. there are jobs to be created in wind and solar. the more wind and sola we use, the faster the price of electricity from wind and solar comes down. it's trending down very very sharply. it's comepetitive in some areas
now. it will soon be competitive in almost every area. the more coal and oil we use, the more it goes up in price. we are hostage to one of the most volatile regions in the world, in the persian gulf. everybody knows these arguments with the new demand of oil from china and indiana, the -- i needianeed india. we can lower our electricity bills at the same time. but the republicans are so beholden to the old legacy polluting companies, they take their money, they sing their song. they vote the way they want them to vote and they block anything like wind and solar. >> how much do you blame the koch brothers? >> i tell you the koch brothers are a symptom and a symbol, the biggest but this is the intersection of dirt y energy and dirty money. >> that's what's going on. you begin to see the energy
reform being held up by our failure so far to get deck omracy reform done. i want to say one more thing. there will be millings of green jobs on planet earth. they will be in asia. the problem that we have here is that you have so-called this big pat rot i can party that's the tea party so patriotic and they are standing in the way. china has now put $30,000,000,000 on thetable to flood the world with chief solar. why? to knock out u.s. energy companies and rather than defending american companies and defending american workers from this, you know, what do you call it? i don't know. just pure skulduggery. i am not trying to say anything anti-chinese. >> they are doing something for their people. we have to do something for our people. you have a government spending $30 million and we don't stand up to them.
we would rather use the pain and suffering of american entrepreneurs and american workers as a bargaining chip to attack the president than to stand up for american companies. >> that's wrong. >> let me add if i could, as van said, it's the intersection of dirty energy and dirt y money. we can't forget, it's creating dirty weather because the extreme climate events that the scientific community has been telling us are connected to global warming are getting worse. we had 12 events last year here in the u.s. that causedost more than a billion dollars that were connected to climate. and it's get can -- it's getting worse. now, we have this extensive drought in big areas of the country. dramatic news, stronger storms, completely consistent with what people have been predicting. i know there are a lot of people who say, don't talk about that because that, you know, people roll their eyes.
this is our future by solving it, we can create jobs and strengthen our economy and we have a moral obligation to the future to our children and grandchildren and to ourselves. it's affecting us now already. >> the thing about that, you can't talk about this. you can't talk about this. yet look at the polling data. >> yeah. >> the american people are connecting the dots now. the american people -- grandma is saying wait a minute now. this is not the weather i grew up with. i think it's time for us to tell the truth. >> that's our home. people will see it and experience it for themselves and, therefore, tell their elected representatives they have got to get on with it. this obstructionism is damaging the nation. hang on, you guys. we have more to talk about. this has gone very fast, i know. we are going to ask both of them sto to stay here. van jones will assure me every young voter will vote for the president this november. we will be right back.
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♪ is the tea party having a comeback? their popularity certainly doesn't seen to be waning. all 29 refreshman republicans won their primaries this year. that, the tea party class that rode into congress on a wave of anti-government sent assessment looks like the right-wing base is shaping the 2012ly. so should groups on the left like the occupy movement and others also step up and play political ball? and what is going to motivate them? here with me again of course are two people who know a little something about motivateing the democratic base.
vice president al gore and rebuild the treme co-founder van jones. one of the things i think that motive asia it's a our basing knowing there is hope on the horizon with respect to some of the energy policies we have been talking about. during the break, you mentioned an interesting statistic. i would love for people to hear what you were saying about the warming of the incidents. >> i do think people are catching on to this in large numbers. but it's something like 326 months months in a row that the temperature has been warmer than the 20th sent re average. and the 12 months from a year ago to april last month was the hottest 12 months in all of history. every year now, it is either breaking the record or in the top four or five years in temperature temperature, and it continues to go up. and the consequences according to the scientific community are horrendous. every single national academy of
science in the world, every professional scientific society in these related fields in the world but the coal companies buy these ads. >> and tea party members elected. >> they seed the organization with these lobbyists, grants and experts that go out and try to gin up this astro-turf deal. >> so the question is: on the left, are we going to have difficulty motivating a base that in some ways especially with respect to energy has expressed some disappointment that we haven't been able to have as much of an energy policy as we would have liked? >> yeah, if you have. fair enough. on this issue, i don't compare obama to the almighty but to the alternative. whatever you don't like about obama is going to get much much worse. we hit our head on this hope ceiling. that doesn't mean the tea party can't pull the chair out from
under us and makes make things worse. the young people get this and part of the danger. these young people and they stood up in 2008. they made history. that the sat down in 2010 and made history in the other direction. then they laid down in the street in 2011 with occupy wall street. whatever they do, they make history. the question s. what type of history are they going to make? they don't see anybody yet passionately fighting for their future when it comes to jobs and the en rather thanmentthe environment, mobilizing around the keystone pipeline. young progressives were loud and proud on that pipeline. they saw it pointed against their future. they stated stood up on that and occupy wall street, student loans and jobs. >> a lot of people are saying. where did it go? where did the movement go? >> first of all, okayccupy wall street was a phenomenon, hard to put that genie back in the bottle. look what they have done.
they did two stupid things, went after sallie mae, student loans. the other thing, the commission set up with scneiderman around housing policy, they said we are here to help. we want to help that commission investigate the north crisis. the channel that we have is that they don't feel the political system is for them any more. >> you have been giving commencement addresses on this about occupy democracy. >>. >> yeah. i think what you are seeing is an internet/social media empowered movement that's springing up from the grassroots. it's still taking form. i don't want to be pollyanna-ish but i genuinely believe you are going to see this. we have seen it in a lot of different parts of the world. i think we are going to have an american spring and an american summer where people who want
change really self organize on the internet and through social media. look the way this system is operating today, politically economically, is not working. the president is trying to change it. i think people understand that. and i think they understand that it's the tea party republican opposition blocking any kind of progress. and i really think we are going to see a real up surge of demand for change. >> well, let's hope so. >> yeah. >> i am'm sorry we are going to have to say goodbye to van jones who has joined us. >> i like the way he talks. >> i love the way he talks. he has alitration. it's a beautiful thing. we will get the former vice president president's thoughts on the current vice president and the cinch on the right for a vice president. looking at the future of the democratic and republican party. much more this is the war room
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to be able to dispense they are all listening and watching this show, i am sure. what would you say to the president to make sure that he is able to bring it across the finish line? >> well, i think it is going to be very, very tight. there is something in the mood of the electorate the last several cycles. '08 was an exception because of the catastrophe that occurred before the election. otherwise, i think the country is so evenly divided on the issues but as to what they should do, i am not sure, you know, i should offer advice but i would say this: i think that president obama is a tremendously thoughtful person, very smart person. i would urge him to make sure that every so often he really pulls back a little bit and takes the personal time to sit down and write out his own
personal argument for the choice that he wants the people to make. i think he's better than any of his conserveultants. you saw what he did in the race speech. >> himself, from the heart. >> i think that's one of his greatest strengths. i think he ought to do it more often during this campaign. >> i was expecting he was going to do that on gay marriage. perhaps he did have to come out a little bit earlier but i expected he was going to right one of those great barack obama kind of moments. >> yeah. >> it is difficult, though when you are and you have employed all of these consultants. >> right. >> everything has been tested, tested poll togetherested, focus group tested to be able to get out on your own and actually bright your own words. sometimes it's not going to be the pop layerlar thing but it is
a leader thing. >> it is and the trench warfare of the news cycle. often they will gain a few yards the other way, but the strategatic advances really come with a very thoughtful i press that crystalizes the main concerns of the people in a way that is communicated very clearly. he has that capacity. he is really good at it. i think he would be well servedto that way more often. >> yeah, i agree. last question for you. in your experience as vice president, obviously mitt romney is going to be selecting a vice president president: do you think that he will end up picking somebody who makes him look charasmatic? >> i don't know. you know, my guess is that he will be heavily flewinfluenced by the perception that many republicans had of