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crooks and heavies both on screen and on stage. that's to do with my physical appearance too when i looked at myself in the mirror i thought i'm not a charmer like schiller's car or a man six like ferdinand i'm more shakespeareans ya go richard the first that's me . out of career flourished in germany as well as abroad he made film after film from spaghetti westerns to mafia dramas. he's always been an imposing screen presence and a very physical actor. it was a lot of action in many of my movies and they were physically demanding i loved it back then i never had a stunt double we didn't have those back then. unlike in the us i shot in
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america once and i did have a job but otherwise i never did in my entire career. in the one nine hundred seventy s. a young generation of german filmmakers discovered out off he started playing more complex characters a tough cop hunting terrorists. win this race is so good because there's also be a choice. for those nazi sympathizer and farkash learned of oscar winning the tin drum another shifty character but it was out of show off his comedic talent. which i just don't know it was limited to. the livestock that you prefer to use in the moscow dollar even if they really do think this is. wrong good one of my two hundred films that was probably the most important one i wouldn't say it was my favorite role or even my best but i would say it was the
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most important film i'm proud to have been part of it. by giving. mario out of the go to bad guy. he's intrigued by m.p. q was roles. as it took your spirits obsequious one career highlight was playing a sleazy tycoon desperate for fame in the t.v. satire kir royale shysters of us once all that and give just the kind of human will to master. yourself i know it's me. he may play the heavy but mario out of the villains have a depth of character few actors give nastiness such a human touch. he's become famous playing bad guys but at his core my office is an entertainer on stage or on screen he knows how to please an audience he speaks four languages fluently and is also an accomplished writer his books some are facts some
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fiction some somewhere in between are bestsellers when he turned eighty five out of gift to himself was an autobiography of his life as an actor. it all started when mario art off was seven years old he got his first role playing one of snow white seven dwarves in a school play things could have gone horribly wrong when his glued on cotton beard slipped and covered his nose and mouth. i thought i was suffocating right out of snorting and coughing i tore off the beard the audience roared with laughter and some degree of pity for the poor seven dwarfs my first stage triumph. mario out of says he's been lucky all of his life few actors can look back on such a long and successful career. if you got was. because.
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i learned my trade at the fierce on which as an actor i found important and indispensable. whether as a western villain mafia patriarch or sophisticated gentlemen whether on screen or on stage mario out of always gives his roles a uniquely personal touch he's one of germany's most beloved actors with a career that spanned sixty years and it happened almost accidentally. it was a very slow process for me so i'm not one of those people who knew as a child or teenager that i wanted to be an actor not at all after high school i went to the university of mines after that i went to acting school only gradually realized this was to me my path. as those
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mind. mario was born in syria in one thousand thirty two an unwed mother she moved with him to germany and raised him by herself out of the. his father a married surgeon from italy once in his whole life. as an adult a search for his roots took him to rome where he lived for forty years. and finished in this really important thing was that i wasn't a tourist i was always working i was in direct contact with other working people that was very important to me i've always been a bad tourist. moved back to germany in two thousand and four with more niek his wife of forty years the pair divide their time between munich and paris. if. many older actors complain that when you start to get on in years the good roles
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start to dry up but that hasn't been a problem for mario he's actually more in demand now than he ever was and the roles if anything are just getting better. still a newcomer and an aging film star mario odd off as mario out of. mind just order of the season and. you have to see what junk is like in the early. in this role out of takes a self critical and ironic look at his image as a famous actor and ladies' man who's getting on in years. and i'm a father. beautiful mother you know just to let you know i'm not going to see justice for getting from. vice i've got no wisdom to pass on i still do the same stupid things that's why i
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never took this profession too seriously i always saw it as a kind of game so in. the game is sometimes funny. and sometimes dramatic in the last mention out of place a holocaust survivor who only accepts his jewish heritage as an old man. first along with a young german turkish woman he sets out to hungary where he was born this road movie is a tragicomic story about the search for oneself. is one of the. escape the homes anything to take it down does money and that can very easily be my guns is really easy. just as it's nice to have eyes in the sun and thank goodness. the stuff
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stunk but china france and germany is just going to drop in june there was dream of just as good units the most. you resign. as my kind for down to sign of life. i always felt i should play every role as if it was the best mower in the world. and i was another recent performance in a comedy from director young shutter sees out off as an elderly single guy looking for love he tries his chances with a round of speed dating magically and yet. i wouldn't talk to those i did wonder though i didn't mean not up out there were no i to my collection. whatever the roll out of decades of experience always shine through. then all of you know the brittany use of her commitment as one. assumes the word
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still creeps in which role would you still like to play they mean before i'm in the ground right why don't i stop because it's fun plain and simple. oh. i'm sorry. gotta love the guy it's good to hear he has no plans to retire fans will have to wait long for the next fix and neither do you because today we are giving away the d.v.d. of one of our best films the oscar winning drama the tin drum for a chance to win just tell us what you thought of the special edition of kino you can email us at keno at. that's all for today's show we're back next week until then i'll see at the movies.
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tells us stories stories. it makes us laugh. and cry. and smile. magical images and emotions that. go see every own d.w. . how to cover more than just one reality. where i come from we have a transatlantic way of looking at things that's because my father is from germany my mother is from the united states of america and so i realized fairly early that it makes sense to explain different realities. and now here at the heart of the
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european union in brussels we have twenty eight different realities and so i think people are really looking for a new journalist they can trust for them to make sense of this. fight is not soft and i work at the government. dignified we're on a journey to see how europe's muslims live do muslims in belgium france and spain have the same problems and worries the same desires are europe's muslims the same everywhere are they able to reflect critically on islam. where does this work especially well where doesn't it. what are their fears do they have to fear
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exclusion. for me that's where the conflict is distinguishing between the ideology or religion and the people in mentioned and. that's what motivated me to go on this journey how met had a bad reputation for hating islam that shows that critics of islam aren't really welcome so you can end up in a dangerous place on that side that it's high time to eliminate this issue from the perspective of the people not bashing islam but not islamic p.r. either we can't allow right wing populists to be the only voices criticizing islam . i don't think it's bad to doubt. criticized on the contrary. how we muslims we act on it in these tense times is considered germany's toughest
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critic of islam our journey takes us to belgium i'm curious to know whether hamad will be confronted with less repudiation than in germany. at the foot i lived in brussels for a year ten years ago it was that even then the city was really diverse and. but there are more women wearing head scarves now than back then it's like you know what does that mean islam more established in belgium than in germany as in the us is the islamization more progressed. good question. in the debate about islam belgium was a blind spot until the attacks in paris and brussels today it's in a state of emergency the mole and they can scare big districts have been referred to as a breeding ground for terror the fact that the attackers were able to stay hidden and scared baked for weeks in the middle of the capital indicates there's no pick
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network of coconspirators and accomplices we need officer had been issued has been a member of the police force for more than thirty years hammett is waiting across the way for security reasons. and you. know now that. my colleague is nearby but he's not alone he's under police protection what is it. he's written books critical of islam. yes he has received death threats we all have to die of something. so cynical on the contrary if you fight for something you mustn't be scared. your ideas and all of them have been home if you ever am and then i don't. know i don't think we're curious. what's going on in the scar big neighborhood of the volume of the f.s.a.
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he began in the late eighty's that's when the problems started more and more women took to wearing veils and the men started growing beards for the defense of along the gulf. and there was also lots of talk about islam. if you do or don't know about the stuff ali in the remote. so it's wrong to politicize islam. exactly whether i'm a muslim a buddhist a jew or a catholic it's my business i never get in public i'm a citizen. it's nobody's business whether at home i pray or sleep on we have to learn not to put ourselves on public display like that why should i run around waving a flag saying look at me i'm a muslim what for am i not convinced of being a muslim that my parents weren't muslims why this constant need to show it all the time i mean you know. come with me where does this need come from the moment i've
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heard what i want to do no more we monitored in memes for security purposes of playing on a few seconds here and we learned that the muslim preachers from egypt and saudi arabia have tried to islam eyes the immigrants in europe. that obvious that would be is that i'm using the preachers treason of the first generation of guest workers like good for nothings don't you must get over it pretty. katie. you are not a proper muslims you allow your women to wear skirts and so on to use that creamy with obviously will far so be all you new york city i see god. why did belgium allow it. all countries allowed it belgium germany france spain why because of the money. how exactly
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does belgium benefit. economic relations with the saudis they buy western products the oil crisis in one hundred seventy three showed how the saudis control the oil price the oil price fell. the only thing i understand is that it's about oil and saudi arabia yes. how about taking a look around. of course let's go. to meet bin issues convinced that belgian politicians ignored saudi arabia's influence on the moroccan and turkish immigrants for too long saudi arabia has funded and controlled most of the mosques in the country since the one nine hundred seventy s. . e m m supported by the saudis have preach wahhabism for more than thirty years and significantly more conservative than the islam of the
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guest workers. let's go back to always talking about the islam of the salafist the islam of the muslim brotherhood or of the one habits or the islamic practice by my mom and dad. which islam are we talking about. we won't get anywhere with sweeping judgments just one terrorist suffices to bring an entire neighborhood into disrepute. it's only at second glance that i spot small mosques in some residential buildings one aspect that since the attacks is unique here the masks only open inserting minutes before prayer. they can say open all day for security reasons there was aggression. against muslims yes inside. do you know young people who've become radicalized. sometimes i talk to parents
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whose children have gone to syria i always tell them your children a grown up it was their own decision to leave her dowry is over the voice off all. you can say discrimination is to blame or the teacher who put the children into a corner. no children radicalized themselves not sure where you see the prophet the theory i mean but you know if you don't know why they chose that option off you see this let me. offer you i tell them quite clearly if your children go away and participate in an attack then the terrorists win from the housing was awful at the fact. there is no excuse for them. to leave their own. radicalization doesn't start in the mosque it starts in the head.
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and. the process begins here when the parents of these children were still young themselves. it was their grandparents who came out here to tell their wives said no more skirts. or oh you know the emotions are partly to blame ok i'll say it as clearly as i can the responsibility lies with him and hold a muslim institutions i tell them to their faces i can't bear the things you say spiritual journey nonsense as if my mother was not on a spiritual journey that good does it do the young people who move from here to syria. also you. people did he was very they talk of liberating greater syria just as it's written in the qur'an to get to paradise with seventy two virgins times three so two hundred. a lot in any case. you know two hundred forty and could you satisfy them all if.
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we. have a bit i think the problem. where in your void just outside of brussels. it is from here that the greatest number of young people moved from europe to syria to join as lamech state. we need social worker mo i had. he does preventive work to counter radicalization. and. something i don't know. the best support how would you describe this place. if you will from humans. have evolved to
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build thought is a small flemish town with a population of forty three thousand that's basically quite ordinary but in twenty twelve dozens of young people went to syria mostly from here twenty nine young people from will vote alone i knew almost all of them you were there during the time they were radicalized. yes i'd also added in billboard in two thousand and nine before the war in syria. it started when the he job was banned in schools. rather they saw the young people ask themselves why and started considering their identity a year later the government banned the burka for security reasons we were told because any woman wearing a burka could rob a bank. with a valuable take. but the kids believed far more bank robberies were committed by people wearing motorbike helmets and that the ban had nothing to do with public
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security. it was only intended to discriminate against muslims. not long after that the belgian government decided to support the americans in afghanistan. gov more because this is the young people said that's going too far or. we muslims are paying taxes that fund a war against our own muslim brothers and sisters in afghanistan but if it ever and i get caught hold of. this one of those don't know what. would you already call that radical thinking that you know we go on a. war yes because at that point you've already pushed the young people to the edge of society to such an extent that they don't want to assimilate anymore they use
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a statement by the prophet as an argument the muslim community is a body one part is hurting the whole body feels it that's why young people also feel connected to their sisters and brothers in afghanistan for good or for purposes so that's why they said i can't say here anymore in part for humanitarian reasons i have to do something in syria turkey supportive of it was a perfect but it was also ideological in orders of found this islamic state. how can it be that this barbaric ideology is so attractive to them that this is their view. because it gives them a kind of identity you're not just a number anymore all at once you've got status like you're the brits i remember one young person who learned a few words of arabic the other said wow he speaks arabic he knows something about religion. and for the president. after you've internalized their form of islam
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the natural conclusion is that you should reject non muslims and that you must be violent to us he said oh even if that's the process of life with before that has it in for but. because it is the opposite of purification. exactly. are you optimistic about the future. will still have to contend with those who return i know how frustrated these young people were when they left they had a strong aversion to the police resound told we've not yet seen the last of the attacks unfortunately. though as if the software this was. the book or the cause of it.
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just was me i myself am out of it what grieves me the most is all the unfulfilled potential. i see young people who have real potential who are friendly and kind since the initial and they're screaming out to achieve something and they don't succeed. on this front of what in this unfulfilled potential is the central source of suffering in our civilization. forget about radicalization violence and terrorism those are just by products that is the. problem. yet. i'm still thinking about where this hatred comes from and how it develops we're
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going to meet someone who got caught up in this trap of radicalisation himself today he fights against extremism. he's become a real role model for many young people in the banias jeremy model does not know also known as joe dalton he became radicalized in prison and knew one of the paris attackers personally he experienced the recent wave of extremism close up and personal. and it's just. another reason you know if you're in. good guess what's changed over the past ten years you don't want to go to the mall the world becomes radicalized the more important it is to keep a level head you know. otherwise you'll go under in this system that's self-destruction. that's what's the problem with the system. we come from problem areas all the things the system says about us they don't
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affect us that's why we don't expect anything from the system either. but i have used them for you because what do you mean with the system is that injustice french democracy fraternity equality. there's no equality we don't live as equals. only you think that's amusing. there's no fraternity either we live in an individualistic society the rich get richer and the poor poor or there are many people living on the streets. there's no equality nothing is shared to us democracy is hypocrisy or no. who is us and. us the others those who are excluded we struggle to integrate is not like we haven't really tried
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we've tried to open the doors to get in but we've always been pushed back once you accept that you're going to be on the outside the problems start you start seeing more clearly and discovering the system behind it but how to fight this monster of a system with so small we're going to go for what i do for a system.


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