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it said he always has his finger on the nuclear button locked in a high stakes poker game with the u.s. we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. but does kim jong un really have nuclear warheads and the missiles to deliver them some experts don't think he does at least not yet is he there are no real plugs this would vibrate it looks like it's from the local hardware store. he's not negotiating until he has his full form nuclear deterrence and the world knows a. thing as.
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it's early in the morning and we're heading to a depot for decommissioned rockets. i'm accompanied by an arms and security expert marcos. he studied north korea's bomb and missile tests though he's never visited the country. i've been there several times as a reporter. all i ever saw it's allegedly combat ready army were trucks powered by wood gas. this is footage shot in secret of a starving improper issue land. here in the fog schiller is sure we'll find rockets just like the ones north korea as we are in fact in ukraine and driving to an old soviet military base near odessa . schiller does not believe north korea has the capability to develop missiles by
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itself or at high speed. any explanation in my view is that they have received help if it is easier if you buy stuff than if you build it all yourself. this rocket looks familiar to show that. there's an official for this is a solid propellant rocket with how surprising that north korea suddenly had some that whacked. he's going to compare what we found at this depot to photos from north korea this is a turbopump a key component in any rocket. fuel out of the combustion chamber of the rocket engine for the tanks it's like fuel injection. such advanced metals technology is not something any country could develop overnight. back at the airport in odessa schiller compares his photos. with propaganda material from north
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korea. on the left a rocket in the end it was twenty twelve if you see how similar the calories the white band around the nose and another one of the rear on the motor column. of the pod is in a few at a parade we see the shape quite clearly it is identical to the same model. and that russian turbopump also reappears in p.r. pictures with kim from twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen. has to this is the turbopump we just saw. a look at the exhaust outlet and then look at this one on the engine and here often these and they look surprisingly similar they have the same shape and the ties. to form.
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kim jong un may boast about the capabilities of his homemade rockets but are they really up to snuff or is he putting on a show to intimidate the united states long range ballistic missile capable of hitting the u.s. mainland. german aerospace engineer professor. is convinced kim is bluffing he's based in munich he was a u.n. weapons inspector in iraq and he used to design rockets himself with me right there . in my virtual goods chiller have worked together on analyzing north korea's missile program they conclude that kim jong own must have received considerable help from abroad. in particular from the former soviet union. piece is that it is in see this engine was built in the one nine hundred seventy s. then came disarmament and they were decommissioned. that means lots of these
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engines are lying around somewhere in deepest and if a dozen or two go missing who's going to notice that's. simply copying a design he says is not an option because. the engines are extremely complex that scene inside it's three thousand degrees kelvin that's almost as hard as the sun. and the pressure is a man's plus the engines have to be very light made of thin sheet metal to get all that right takes a long time and a lot of practice. to be. what about the submarine launched ballistic missiles north korea claims to have developed the evidence is not convincing on some photos they have rather flaps on others they don't hear entire sections are missing. but kim really observed that first launch from such close quarters is unthinkable. ten tons of solid fuel flying out of the water if
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it had exploded kinship would have been totally destroyed. huge missiles are regularly on display at military parades in pyongyang our experts say their fakes amateurish fakes says he and they want to show off how much they've got but it's just cobbled together smoke and mirrors. that examples of the very same model of missile look different. it's like if you compare the same spot on the one missile the gap between the fins is much greater than on the other. this one has a trap the other doesn't. so badly made you really have to feel sorry for them. by head to south korea introduced us the matter with experts there they also think the north's nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles program is more blood than
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substance. the south korean capital seoul is just fifty kilometers from the border within reach of conventional artillery. are from the north twenty five million people live in the metropolitan area. the last time north korea reversed a large scale attack was in spring two thousand and seventeen kim jong un was there to watch. his great enemy the united states has close to thirty thousand servicemen and women stationed in south korea. and so on i go to see chad o'carroll he's a security analyst and journalist and runs the n.k. news website he says it would be wrong to underestimate north korea's military capabilities. we're in for the buff very from a u.s. military perspective the department of defense has to take seriously any risk that
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i miss all and reach the east or west cards to the united states and we're now basically at that point so even if there's a one in five chance that twenty million people can die what is you know what does that really mean we have to take that seriously. and o'carroll agrees that north korea receives assistance from abroad he shows me satellite images of a recent military parade in pyongyang. to the left of the crowd or a row of missiles on trucks he says many of the transporters were imported from china and there are more of them than previously believed. ok we can see about two or one or two kilometers away from kim il sung's square where the viewing took place pipes and there is one survey unit of every missile type tank you name it. japan is evidently the source for other equipment
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such as special cranes have you crying in these folks eyes which come from north korean state media you can see the crane is actually being used to to lift the missile from the assembly gone on to the transporter erector on the lawn chair and it's just they i did it in full twenty seventeen way and there's so much scrutiny on north korea special weapons programs it's very difficult to sort of understand that. it looks like united nations sanctions on north korea including an extensive trade embargo are not being fully implemented we drive along the hundred or towards its estuary to look across at north korea. nearby as the joint security area had been one jump the only spot on the border where soldiers from the two koreas come face to face. in
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january delegations from the north and south met here. such a handshake a rare stunning event. this is the north making nice. but last december it showed its cruel face at the same spot. a north korean soldier defected and came under fire from the north even after he had crossed into the south. that was a violation of the korean honest disagreement he was rescued by south korean soldiers and flown down a special is since recovered from his wounds. while the border between the two koreas is closed the one between the north and china is open
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. this is the chinese city of dun dun. and this is the view across the yalu river to north korea the friendship bridge links the two countries and is a major conduit for goods going in both directions. i mean we have a couple sources in downtown as well this is a convoy of trucks going through the chinese customs house just before they cross the friendship bridge where you can see to share amount of berries you would need an army people to be coming here and the current u.n. sanctions ostensibly would call it has to be very thorough he says to ensure it is night and materials that may breach sections but on a good day you might have to three hundred of these kind of trucks passing the bridge. and each one of them you know maybe forty tons that's the it's
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a lot of stuff. but. these aren't north korean weapons but those of south korea and the united states. they regularly conduct joint maneuvers in the south which regularly rile kim jong on his enemies flexing their muscles all the more reason he feels he needs nuclear weapons to defend his country and himself who would want to end up like those other dictators saddam hussein and iraq and moammar gadhafi and libya first year burns or the korean war ended in one nine hundred fifty three but a peace treaty has yet to be signed u.s. bombing devastated the north people there have not forgotten while relations between the two koreas have been mainly tense there have also been episodes of engagement and detente. in two thousand south korean president kim dae joan visited pyongyang to meet north korean leader kim jong il the father of kim jong un. kim de
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jong received the nobel peace prize for his efforts to promote peace and reconciliation. an architect of his sunshine policy of reconciliation was join me and moon there was a time when north korea and the united states even talked to each other was that possible very simple ok well i would there was a train of succumbs to assist in nights to the united states decent what north koreans would see me and they didn't deny north korea they treated north korea is a normal count and leadership commitment was another important factor and it was a very effective in the communication channels. says things might not be so bad now if the current us administration were willing to negotiate instead the us president derides and threatens kim jong un has. rocket man is on
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a suicide mission for himself and for his regime those kinds of so-called the hostile rhetorics could be very very counter productive and also he has been waiting can do instead has to he stares. tells us he remains committed to dialogue even though he too has been the target of verbal attacks from north korea. that not that i'm not and make the north koreans and i told the north koreans ok ok i came here the dog of american imperial east here how the hell do you can you can criticize me in that way i've been walking meet you we've all my heart and i made a big shouting at the north koreans and the north korean delegation told me that. and mr moon did to provoke handle the situation and our how. to put them and to
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be united front we have a different view work the work properly to propaganda don't be detected in don't be disturbed by to put. you. know you are outsiders it's even harder to distinguish between propaganda and policy reliable information about the kim dynasty which has ruled north korea for three generations now is also hard to come by. the current leader kim jong un has seen more of the outside world than one might imagine. we are heading to a suburb of burn in switzerland to meet a teacher. in the late ninety's there was a north korean boy and his seventh grade class. it was said he was the son of somebody who worked at the embassy.
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is to stand tall he was introduced as own pocket for me he was just a regular boy he spoke a german if we were able to communicate like sporty clothes basketball attire n.b.a. gear quite often both i and i think he was one of the first people i knew who had an m p three player. a small i named peter i played. years later facial analysis concluded with ninety five percent certainty that the boy really was kim. reason says he was confident but not brash despite the expensive gear. and pressure like that cost a hundred francs you know the trousers to the nike air trainers three hundred and he had lots of hair salon but it was a show off night no he didn't flaunted me he did not try to be anything special. i
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found him to be a well adjusted young man with my new see the old man. while the young kim jong on enjoyed his ninety's in switzerland starvation was killing countless children back home crop failure many fish and agriculture economic mismanagement but the regime always blamed its arch enemy the united states. in two thousand and one came jones oldest half brother came joe was arrested at tokyo airport trying to enter japan on a fake dominican republic passport he said he wanted to visit disneyland. in the one nine hundred seventy s. and eighty's north korea abducted a number of children and young adults from japan so they could teach japanese to it spies decades later a few were allowed to return home. in
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two thousand and two north korea finally revealed what it had done people in japan were aghast junichiro koizumi was prime minister of japan at the time the indus diplomats had persuaded north korea to make that admission and to apologize as a precondition for moves to start normalizing bilateral relations. but laying the groundwork took a lot of preparation this process highlighted the tricky moral issues involved in dealing with despots itoshi to knock out a senior advisor to koizumi held many secret talks with the north. the five to thirteen times. new. old time took place in the weekends there are a couple of gifts me. one is the trip by the japanese prime
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minister to north korea because in the eyes of. all. the getting prime minister to come to north korea itself is a kind of victory to tell to the people here we are the former. prime minister came to this country to apologize for north korea. the regime said that five of those abducted were still alive and they would be allowed to visit japan without issue seemingly resolved but to signed a joint declaration relations looked like they might be on the man. crime is immediately that we would like to see the old by the survivors so. that sort of meeting did take place. we had to see them so we beat
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that is a key element for us. it. just all mon trust me is difficult to verify. anything north korea says because it's a secret mission and it's not the most graphic mission therefore there is no accountability those five survivors remained in japan north korea said they had to be sent back and accused the japanese government of breaking its promise chargeable that you broke a promise no i said. you're kidding because also our job is who up ducked it but you how could you sort of. decide the fate of the old people. another act of terror any given the estranged half brother was evidently considered a threat so kim jong un had him murdered if you doubt it was used during the attack
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took place in public at kuala lumpur airport. can join nom was about to fly to macau where he was living in exile he was caught on surveillance video just minutes before he died. the malaysian authorities won't talk about the case all requests for interviews with investigators and other officials were rejected but we did find a journalist willing to discuss it. i get a foot call from my phone to the police force say we just figured this out it was this so that a session as a suspicion of poisoning it's a. budget at work and we issue because i was soft footed that's what he's a lot he's a son of. kim jong il right kingery as they've already yeah he's a half brother to give us you know our what happened so we do
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a little let us price it right every father a fair bit of money if i had a few thousand u.s.d. it was bad. investigators determined that two young women one from vietnam and the other from indonesia had each smeared something on kim jong un's face the components of a chemical weapon the v.x. nerve agent. this do it with a smile that it meant a very off. stage get a traditionalist at a baltic sort of measure for he said he wasn't feeling well he was sweet it was something that you could see it clearly they did to keep it simple fact she did it did it we get into the hospital and he died they were could fifty a college so who would have to live it was. the first account was they destroyed were actually his people one was made the decision was made the vietnamese lady was his girlfriend and it changed or they did not he did not know who they were. and
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but they would be well hired to do this. police identified further suspects men with ties to the north korean embassy. north korea responded by detaining malaysian nationals in pyongyang as hostages so they could do a prisoner swap. he wanted to arrest them because they don't have to publicly state this. idea what happened was that a standoff between the malaysian government and the north with the impression from outside is that there's a country there was a case they were doing an excellent job investigating arresting and then they led the ones go that were to be charged actually they ridicule they would let go if i really would flee the deal but they would exchange when i missions come back because we have such a special relationship with direct flights we could good every day who come here with a visa as it was such a special relationship effect after last year we had last cleared what this looking
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all cool minds at the border you're right that it doesn't because we're good because we drop the ball yeah but you know in the scheme of all the things people talk about regime corruption. financial scandals political intrigue is here is this one. machinations coercion shady dealings north korea is skilled in getting its way not only in malaysia not only to murder fugitive rivals. at the united nations a panel of experts oversees the regime of sanctions imposed on north korea. they're familiar with the long reach of the kim regime counsel be sure photo congo is one of those monitors he tells us how the trade embargo is undermined. by the
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lisi loopholes my question was where all the clothes he holds. all which was so few compared to the number of loopholes loophole the exist only china but also all russia. taiwan sufi feature they have also all protein if in europe. one example of arms control busting launchers for north korean ballistic missiles are based on trucks manufactured in china key. portion was imported from china in two thousand and eleven and that's just one of those only twenty four six recalls have been confined by the you know nations they have a clear. and we've had to pick a set of cajuns which show that you can fit and you feel you've only full for three
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business. off road trucks for use in the logging industry are not covered by sanctions so was this a willfully misleading declaration they were used in china for military purposes now so chinese company. has to apply more serious diligence which they don't have a problem didn't care maybe even want to be defeated so long as they can make excuse that they can't make money out of north korea. i don't ask for policy stoppers well that's a question that well i don't i'm sure now's a stuff because you can pile up spotted the feature. china's going to do significant the bar asked. the question is when it comes to your sanction if you know me in resolutions who understand your relations in china should
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watch with a foreign ministry only and if or recently if not even. and they found the scope of the union resolutions to the focal place in my discussion with chinese called the press i always get the impression that they don't get. deep understanding that with lucia's which they are agreed. perhaps they chose not to understand but it's not only china that aids and abets north korea in its missile program in two thousand and twelve the south korean navy recovered from the sea what was left of a missile north korea had launched it contained parts from many different countries cobbled together by hand. to fourteen kinds of things will fall from the us three rockets and
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most items by fascism overtake rome united kingdom so most of it sits behind us south korea so all countries which have received exposure to regulation was defeated but that could be a bit of a spiritual at all yes and that's a key component that's to keep while robot smokers' pretty certain that north korea is not in fact making much headway in developing its own ballistic missiles what a cow is not so sure it's really a hundred craft. you see clues. that the sheik to me. was i passed to some it's not beautiful it doesn't seem to be. serial productions but that's ok for the screen.
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they will use a same basis to manufacture. these fools and as a missile one by one. at the united nations the current us administration has called for a total embargo of north korea total isolation to bring it to heel. we call on all nations to cut off all ties with north korea in addition to fully implementing all u.n. sanctions all countries should sever diplomatic relations with north korea and limit military scientific technical or commercial cooperation. that ultra hardline approach is met with little support internationally or within the us evelyn farkas is a security expert and served in the defense department under barack obama. i disagree with that i mean anything to maintain the dialogue keep the conversation going i
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think would be useful now i will say defense of the the diplomats what i'm hearing from them in private conversations is that the north koreans do not want to talk to our diplomats they're not interested in negotiating and again i think this is because kim jong un has decided he's not negotiating until he has his full full nuclear to terms and the world knows it. the federal republic of germany has had diplomatic relations with north korea since two thousand and one as deputy foreign minister would go former helped establish that. chancellor at the time was schroeder. this situation is dire. security is not guaranteed there will be more families. and i agree with our foreign minister on establishing ties. this is the minister still has to work out the technical details but the decision has been taken. what happened
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next proved to be a disappointment for. north korea did not open up to the world it wanted gifts. of. slater another delegation came. they told us what they wanted a steel plant. there. they said we should give them one but that to some company had recently closed. i had to explain at considerable length that the german government does not have the right to seize private property and give it to somebody else so for. the fun. i told them they would have to negotiate and there would be money to pay. they didn't like the idea and said this isn't what a true friendship looks like not the way they see it they were rather dismayed and
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then they left again. the country once more than steel plants these two north koreans visiting a dingy cellar in ukraine in two thousand and eleven thought they were stealing plans for advanced missile technology. they were fake it was a sting operation by ukrainian counterintelligence the two had posed as members of a trade delegation they were found guilty of espionage by ukrainian court and are still in prison. north korea has leased part of its embassy in berlin to a hostile but u.n. sanctions ban commercial operations are at its embassies just started of hard currency revenue. what's more the embassy has been used as a base for espionage and the procurement of money. in this and
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we have to assume that north korea has acquired parts for its missile program on various markets and via shell companies and proxies in foreign countries. and that it is done so in germany as well. i started you rule also said north korea is currently engaged in such procurement activities at its embassy in berlin. and always she is no we cannot rule that out if we become aware of such activities we hold them which we cannot guarantee that we hear about and prevent all such transactions in. the united nations monitors are also concerned they have asked the german authorities about north korea's activities here. we have two german government for information more what technology will screw us for seeking for but we never got any reply from german government of the united nations
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us the german government for information and they didn't get that. quite often these respective germany so foremost a key key feature. get replies from german government. reacts mr photo card to write all this down for us so we could bring the matter up with the head of germany's domestic intelligence service i asked mr marson about germany's cooperation with the u.n. regarding north korea. i cannot answer your question because i know nothing about this. we do as a rule reply to all inquiries we received by the foreign ministry. is answered as a rule but that's a huge allegation it is indeed an allegation but from my perspective i would not say it is a serious one because i presume that if it were the president himself would have
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been approached or i would have been approached by the foreign ministry. and i haven't heard that that has happened. does not amount to a clear denial the suspicion remains that germany has failed to support u.n. monitors the way your true now. it's not just small parts that have made their way into kim jong un's missiles things all kinds of goods under north korea by road done don't. we know that get delivered the question is what does it say on the paperwork for the missile components were sent to libya that were declared as water purification equipment. to north korea the volume of deliveries is not great we're not talking about large numbers of items. you know official photos kim jong un poses
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besides impressive looking hardware other missiles are real and are they dangerous but i wouldn't store things that way why not. just stand something like that on the floor piece of precision engineering on a concrete floor beneath a special cradle. is this a real functional nuclear warhead ready to mount on a missile obvious one of the core shells for this people the cables look odd this would vibrate and scream during flight anything these are proper sockets it's all very suspect it looks like it comes from the local hardware store was with us. slotted screws and hex screws the whole thing really is a bit weird with guns. and the chart carefully placed on the wall behind showing the warhead in the missiles nose cone.
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says it proves nothing. of you can't go from zero to a fully functioning missile you could actually fire if i was in this business long enough to know you just can't do it that's the heat. if it is right then its weapons program is not currently as dangerous as north korea would have us believe but is he right what do other experts say how should the international community deal with kim. north korea state me bluffing that's for sure. they say that they have. mustered a high dalton bomb. that can be loaded on to the i.c.b.m. which may not be correct we don't know what we know for sure they have successfully completed it and you can attest we've estimated feel that all four hundred sixty
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killed toss which we have never seen before they mean choice one lot we don't know so for. i look i'm being suction to cable t.v. for me joy division but it's a matter of time i'm optimistic therefore i believe that it would be and should be negotiated comes with the promise but no other options sanctions from precious who have been here in the mutations military actions south korea will strongly oppose it try rochelle or simply or pause in the military sanction ok and what regime change. it won't be easy then do you all you wait to be told north korea nuclear problem. dialogue will negotiation of course it will take much longer time but still i think if united states ok show some signs know all the
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branch to north korea even despite the kinds of domestic challenges can bite america more for we don't want a war. we don't want north korea. nuclear we don't want to in order to do that is there any other alternative but to be patient really wanted to be north korea while we exert pressure and to invite china to be more serious the best case scenario would be they don't have a full program they freeze it or they have a full capability that's probably not realistic and so that's why i say realistically they have a nuclear weapons program capability they have a deterrence against the united states and our allies and so we just implement you know mutual assured destruction might we have with china russia cetera the north
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korean government is not going to use nuclear weapons against any country in the world unless it thinks that its existence is at stake meaning there is an impending invasion. unless it responds to a false alarm such as the one in hawaii in january that would be enough to trigger disaster. at the former soviet base in ukraine staff tells us about such a terrifying incident the intelligence had once reported the launch of an enemy nuclear missile. through our interpreter a laina tells us that there were always two soldiers on duty here thirty five meters underground at the ready to launch a nuclear counterstrike. war they had twenty seconds to decide whether to do so or not all. he says
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are flipping two switches at the same time they would send off eight nuclear missiles each targeting a major western city. with. more blow. and the world is talking once again about the risk of nuclear war i mean can you imagine if you talk about a new nuclear war to start or tells me he doesn't think it will come to that everybody knows that would be catastrophic but he is not so sanguine. because no one knows what they will do next. place leave immediately.
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