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there's had not and america's costly forward wars especially the one in afghanistan it is a promise he has not kept tonight on this 18th anniversary of the $911.00 attacks on the united states peace talks with the taliban in afghanistan have stopped the fighting has not and trump well he remains commander in chief unable to prevent america's longest war from getting along. berlin this is the day. we had peace talks scheduled a few days ago. i called them off when i learned that they had killed a great american soldier from puerto rico look at one of his soldiers was killed here and he stopped the peace process saying he doesn't care about. the last 4 days we have hit our enemy harder than they have ever been hit before. the twin
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towers and the incident is still being remember that innocent people get killed. e.q. and no one cares about it who remembers them are they not humans will go wherever they are and use power the likes of which the united states has never used before our only hope was peace which won't happen now. also coming up a news special report on the never ending nightmare for roy hinge a women refugees who left everything behind to escape violence in myanmar now in bangladesh they're being forced to sell the only thing they own their bodies but there's no other job i can do like i can't do anything else remarry my new husband would take care of me but not my children. well to our viewers on
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p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with the united states marking the $911.00 terror attacks it is an event that 18 years on is beginning to take its place in the history books while slowly losing its place in our collective memory and with that the danger of mis remembering the past is growing now the 911 attacks led to the war in afghanistan which today rages on and has become america's longest war troops from germany and the u.k. who remain in the country on a nato mission and recent peace talks between the u.s. and the taleban were called off by u.s. president trott now these are all facts of recent history with a day at the pentagon u.s. president trump he veered sharply from the facts of 911 when he implied that the taliban had sent terrorists to bring down the twin towers 911 the deadliest attack
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on american soil since pearl harbor was carried out not by the taliban but by al qaida terrorists which you take a listen to part of what the u.s. president said today we had peace talks scheduled a few days ago i called them off when i learned that they had killed a great american soldier from puerto rico and 11 other innocent people they thought they would use this attack to show strength but actually what they showed is unrelenting week. the last 4 days we have hit our enemy harder than they have ever been hit before and that will continue. and if for any reason they come back to our country we will go wherever they are and use power the likes of which the united states has never used before and i'm not even
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talking about nuclear power they will never have seen anything like what will happen to them. while on this 911 anniversary i'm joined tonight by christopher callender an afghanistan war veteran who also advised both the obama entropy administrations on afghanistan and he is credited with being one of 2 people who open communications that lead to peace talks with the taliban he is currently an adjunct senior fellow at the center for a new american security and he joins me tonight from milwaukee wisconsin mr callender welcome to the day i want to ask you how do you read what the u.s. president said today at the pentagon about the taliban did he conflate the taliban with al qaida well it certainly seems and i want to begin i just you know my heart goes out to all the people who have been affected by
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$911.00 both the event itself 18 years ago as well as the aftermath to endless wars as as president from calls and to include all those veterans from afghanistan i was talking with. a person yesterday who is with deutsche bank on september 11th 2001 in manhattan right across the street from 911 and from the towers as he you know describe for me the events of that and it's absolutely searing. it's important you know that there's a difference between the taliban and. negotiates ations with al qaeda not possible negotiations with the taleban are possible but as we've seen very very difficult. you have invested a lot of time it in getting talks with the taliban up and running and you did that under both presidents obama and president trump i'd like to hear your thoughts on
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the u.s. president inviting the taliban to camp david i mean did you know the trump had extended that invitation now and you know look i'm not a u.s. official any longer the the work that i did in 272800 to try to help get this current round of talks going was as a as a private citizen not as a as he was government official. i mean it does seem a bit odd. to put it lightly to infight the taleban to camp david premature you know maybe after a lot of confidence is built after a ceasefire after there are have been extensively goshi in afghanistan and it changed environment to cling to taleban pronouncing their ties to al qaeda and and now see very clearly that al qaeda that al qaeda or any other terrorist organization is unwelcome in afghanistan. and they've made similar declarations on
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human rights is follow through with those things and making credible commitments keeping them then maybe you have a situation in which the peace process has advanced as a state in which you would have some sort of meeting on on us but it's really premature and quite frankly you know the reaction from both sides of the political spectrum in the united states has been radioactive what did you think when trump declared those talks to be dead are they really dead. well the door is closed but it's not locked at the end of the day you've got a situation in which you've got a strategic stalemate as long as the afghan government maintains international support the taliban are not going to be able to overthrow the government converse lee as long as the taleban maintains external sanctuary and sufficient internal
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support indigenous support in afghanistan it's not going to be decisively defeat and so we are in that situation on you know 2 weeks ago and we're still in that situation today it's unlikely to change so you know really you've got 2 options for ways for one is you can try to keep u.s. nato troops indefinitely in a landlocked country that's surrounded by hostile force and have you know and they end with an afghan government that's having a very difficult time right now dismantling the kleptocracy that's been undermining a it's legitimate in the ice afghans. or you can you can pursue a peace process but we mate we're likely to take a different approach. in the peace process in the future this time we went for the big deal and i'm sure there are a lot of reasons going for the big deal we elected not to use a more deliberate step by step approach to build confidence which historically is
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much better track record so like my advice would be that if we're doing what it's talks resume and they should we need to take a very different approach both the united states taleban the afghan government need to take a very different approach to this and move in a more step by step incremental process that builds confidence builds in the talks over time and then i think you are have the potential to seize some very significant. i'd like to play a clip for you mr callender it's from july of this year and it's the u.s. president saying what he could do to afghanistan if he really wanted to take a listen i have plans on afghanistan that if i wanted to win that war afghanistan would be wiped off the face of the earth it would be god it would be over in
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literally in 10 days now when you hear the president saying that strickland can you imagine these peace talks being revived as long as president trump is president. well it's going to take some strategic leadership on all sides of this conflict to to resume these talks i think it's going to take a much more sensible approach to these talks me clearly just getting a bunch of people around a room in secret in doha trying to hash out some sort of deal is it's not going to work. and this deal could have been potentially destabilizing seeing you here invariably in a situation where you either resume peace talks and try to gain a successful outcome from this war through peace and quite frankly from the united states nato perspective if afghanistan's no longer
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a platform for international terrorism and ideally if it if afghanistan is a place where the rights of all afghans men and women and children included are respected then that's quite frankly a successful outcome for the united states and and nato for the taliban a successful outcome to them is no more international combat troop presence so that's entirely possible as well so you've got a situation where the objectives of one another in this case u.s. nato on one side taleban on the other side. there's no disagreement in terms of the outcome now but well because there's disagreement you get there because the afghan government's forces and it didn't yeah i was going to ask you i mean how do you reconcile those to the afghan government wants to respect women's rights for example and we know that the tele body they're not known for doing that at all so
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are they going to change a fundament of their thinking or can these 2 opposing ideas be expected to live in peace to to co-exist in afghanistan peacefully. right well when you look at actual behaviors you see a much more mixed picture than then than what you've presented of course on the ground in afghanistan and this is exactly why a confidence building approach is important that all sides. the u.s. and nato the afghan government and the top need to demonstrate that they can make it to and maintain credible commitments that lead step by step towards reductions in violence and ultimately tossed towards a political settlement in afghanistan let me ask you about some former national security advisor john bolton he is now out of the picture we know that he was opposed to the president inviting the taliban to camp david but he was no friend to
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peace talks at least publicly did you feel that you were in a battle against john bolton when you were working to set up and to make these these talks work. well bolton was not the national security adviser at that time it was i mean was it uphill but look there's a lot of impressions about the taliban some are accurate some are not accurate. you know in terms of whether they you know they are willing to engage in a peace process and part of you know part of our effort was to was to try to identify. and and have the taliban do things that would suggest that they were willing to talk acts such as their february 14th letter to the american people asked for talks and then the i mean a big breakthrough came when president gandhi and general nicholson announced
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a cease fire overheat all fitter in june of 2017 they invited the taliban to do the same the taliban said they would do it to a 3 day cease fire and and they made that announcement and for 3 days or they eat khalid there was no violence in afghanistan at least you know no taleban on afghan government violence and it really open people's eyes and tell upon it much greater sense of command control then than many of the skeptics gave them credit for and so that was the key now to play in and convincing the trump and ministrations to you know to at least try a peace process and as a set i think the door is closed right now but this strategic situation is unlikely to change in the near future or it or over the mid-term and so forcefully the door is not locked and i think i think you'll see a resumption of talks here at some point and hopefully they'll take a different trajectory than than this one christopher kalinda joining us tonight
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from milwaukee wisconsin mr bill and if we appreciate your valuable insights on the situation with the united states and afghanistan and the taliban thank you thank you it's been a pleasure thanks for having brought. well they've fled deadly violence they've become refugees in a foreign country and now they've been forced into prostitution they are among the 700000 or hinge or refugees now living in sprawling camps in bangladesh their lives are already grim refugees are not allowed to work and they depend on food handouts and some women there have turned to the sex industry others are lured abroad with promises of jobs in marriage only to end up in prostitution g.w. has this exclusive report tonight from the bangladeshi city of cox is bizarre.
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in the world's largest refugee camp in bangladesh life for women and children is particularly difficult. this woman fled from me and ma with her 3 children and husband after their village was burnt down 2 years ago. my husband left me and my children after we came here and it was difficult for me to make ends meet i didn't have any other option or want. any other option that is going to work as a prostitute now when she gets the call she travels to the neighboring towns outside of the refugee camps. on the telephone there is no other job i can do like that but i can't do anything else if i were narry my new husband would take care of me but not my children. it's impossible to say how many reading the refugees end
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up in the sex trade here many as young as 14 according to local n.g.o.s thousands of women are trafficked across bangladesh and even abroad lured by false promises of jobs and marriage. we wanted to gauge how widespread the problem really is in the tourist town of cops bizarre roughly 40 kilometers from the camps we got in touch with a pimp who posted to have several rango women on call. hello. show you some girls and if you like them you can take them if not you can leave. oh ok see you in an hour and. a bit later our reporter meets the man at a prearranged point and gets into an auto rickshaw with him while we. followed behind a reporter secretly filming the entire encounter. the
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1st stop is a hotel which serves as a brothel to begin with the manager seems suspicious and denies having any prostitutes then he shows us pictures of a few women on his phone none of them seem to be wrecking. around 10 pm the pimp sends a rectangle woman to our hotel she's too scared to talk to us when we reveal we're journalists because she's worried the hotel might tell the pimps but she confirms she is a 23 year old wrecking a refugee she says she's a victim of her circumstances. back at the camp the sex worker we met earlier tells us the hindu are not allowed to work and there have been several police raids on hotels doubling as brothels she herself was recently released from jail. the us and the now let me know if i can't find any other way to
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make money i'll have to go back to this work if i do i might get arrested again. but she's likely to take that risk again because for now she doesn't have a choice. and faced with such a bleak future bridging the women remain easy prey for the pimps and traffickers. it is a never ending nightmare for the women and i'm joined here at the big table by my colleague no me comrade she was one of the reporters on that story. and let's talk about one of these sex workers that you talked to she said that she had no other way of making money so talk to me. she's so desperate that she's willing to sell her body. the situation in the camp is pretty bad but the refugees you know they they need food handouts they need humanitarian aid that's all they have they're not allowed to work so it's not as if they have any other options when you go into the
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camps the situation's pretty dire on us and small shops which a tolerated by the authorities but even that is illegal so there really isn't very much for women to do in the woman in this case her husband divorced she was alone with 3 kids the youngest was 3 years old and she felt she didn't really have a any other choice they're not going to work because the bangladeshi authorities don't allow them to words or has there been a response from the authorities to this report. not directly to this report we obviously talked to the authorities and there have been has been a crackdown there have been a several police raids i mean it's also interesting to note that prostitution itself is legal in bangladesh this is one of the few muslim countries where it's legal if you're over 18 to work unregistered brothel but for a think refugees it's illegal because they're not allowed to work as i said before so even just leaving the camp unless there is a medical emergency and you have a pass to go to the hospital is illegal of course people are desperate find means and ways when you drive to these can't sell these police checkpoints so the the
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authorities are trying to crack down but obviously it's difficult i mean even if prostitution is legal in bangladesh we're still talking about a health risk for these women sexually transmitted diseases for example so how is it being dealt with of course and hiv is a problem too i mean we've talked to an engine that works with sex workers and they're trying to raise awareness they're trying to to get women to use condoms for example with their clients but it's very difficult this is also a very conservative society it's difficult to talk about certain things and yes there is a health risk and we don't know but it's quite likely that sexual to sexually transmitted diseases are in fact whether you were report highlights trafficking across. bangladesh and abroad i mean what more can you tell us about how this trafficking works and how it thrives it's a huge problem i mean we're talking about potentially thousands of young girls some
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of them as young as 1314 who lured by false promises sometimes i mean a promise jobs in malaysia will even just marriage in lation and often end up in in the prostitution and sometimes it's a whole family that tries to get money to pay for these girls. to malaysia unbowed it's very dangerous but it's a lot of the capsize people die and during the voyage that's of a dangerous journey and i think it's you know it's a sign of how desperate the conditions are you and i spoke last week about this new this island where this new community has been constructed for the refugees by bangladesh and you were telling me last week that the refugees don't want to go there so now this component forced into prostitution into the in the equation do do they want to go back do you mean more for example if they have an opportunity they'd love to go back that's what everyone says too scared of the situations that i mean they don't trust the government basically but their villages raped women and
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killed people only 2 years ago and not many independent observers hardly any journalists allowed into the state rakhine state as in the within me and ma where these people come from but the reports we all are getting is that conditions are bad and people just don't trust the government so that between so i said i hope this is what you've been told is they don't right now that they wouldn't get back to me in our because they're scared for their lives they don't want to go to this island. because they'll be cut off from the rest of the world so carts as bizarre is the only where they are now is really want to stay for the time being and that's a place where you get this horrible story about prostitution of course and also the . government of bangladesh is trying to force them to leave just last week they switched off the instant that we talked to the foreign minister who said well actually the conditions are really good maybe that's so good that that's why people don't want to leave so i think in a fairly well looking at
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a future that is coming christian the belief yeah like a nightmare that just won't and naomi conner as always thank you. a handshake in berlin that sent diplomatic shock waves to beijing you see right there the german foreign minister hi kumasi meeting with hong kong pro-democracy leader and protester joshua was part of a group of activists visiting the german capital this week there were reception here in berlin left beijing cold today joined us summoned to the german ambassador warning that the meeting could have negative consequences for by lateral relations and here in berlin china's ambassador today began naming in shame.
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and regret that certain politicians and i'll say very openly the german foreign minister himself as well as other members of parliament met with. what has now happened unfortunately will have negative consequences on bilateral relations and the chinese side has to react so. well today german chancellor angela merkel in a speech before the german parliament once again called on beijing to respect human rights including those of protesters were joshua wong he is now on his way to the united states where he's been invited to testify in a congressional hearing we'll be watching to see how china reacts to that. watching the day see you tomorrow.
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