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tests to check. the price of the free. the finest egg production to top it off. training successful. start in terms of. donald trump says he will send a so just federal forces enter quell cities he says of violently out of control interestingly in this election year those cities are all controlled by democrats opponents say the president's plan will fuel on the fire rather than putting it out i'm filled. and this is the day.
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today i'm announcing a surge of federal law enforcement into american communities plagued by violent crime we don't need federal troops we don't need unnamed secret federal agents roaming around the streets of chicago i want to be very very clear that we will not allow this to happen in our city we are ready willing and able to go in there with great force and if we see these federal officers on our streets then we will see. those people in chicago and other cities where we'll be helping. 93 year old former nazi death camp god receives a 2 year suspended sentence for his role in the murder of thousands of people. how is this a measure of justice that is not published it goes home happy they go back to their
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nightmares and dramas. the president trump has announced that he will send federal forces into more u.s. cities he says it's to combat a surge in crime in cities like chicago kansas city missouri and albuquerque cities that are all brought in by what the president has described as the vatican left but the trump deployment of federal forces already operating in portland oregon has been targeting protesters demanding racial justice and city officials say the feds have done nothing but increase local ag. a. big state it's hard to bring the mayor of portland tear gassed by federal offices in the middle of these own city. ted we know was in a group of protesters outside a federal courthouse he said he saw nothing which provoked this response but.
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the irony is poor and protest is angered that the democratic man had backed his own city police using tear gas until a federal judge ordered it should only be used when there was a safety issue. for the 55th night in a row protesters flooded the streets of portland and a new chant was being sung. i said sco a clear message to the federal agents deployed by the trumpet ministration to crackdown on demonstrators. the local governor a democrat didn't mince her words this is a democracy not a dictatorship we cannot have secret police abducting people into and putting them in unmarked vehicles. i cannot believe i have to say that to the president of the united states i know that we're going ian's are outraged
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american should be appalled but the controversy hasn't stopped president trump announcing that more federal agents will be sent to other u.s. cities today i'm announcing a surge of federal law enforcement into american communities plagued by violent crime will work every single day to restore public safety protect our nation's children and bring violent perpetrators to justice federal offices will be sent to albuquerque and chicago both democrat run cities critics say the deployment is political an attempt to make democrats weak on crime and to burnish trump's image as the moor and order president ahead of the november election the mayor of chicago says she welcomes a partnership with federal agents but warns against using the same tactics as in portland. i've been very clear not happening in chicago we don't need
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federal troops we don't need unnamed secret federal agents roaming around the streets of chicago that's not democracy that we saw unfolding on the streets of portland as a result of this federal action that's what we call tyranny and dictatorship and we're not having it in chicago residents of chicago say extra police won't solve the issues facing the city they say action on gun control would be more effective anti playing violent crime. well activists and journalists laura d. has experienced the action of the feds at 1st hand on the streets of portland from where she joins us now welcome to day w doesn't the white house have absolute right to protect federal property is. the white house has a right to protect federal properties but i'm not sure that they have a right to protect them in a specific way. the damage to these federal properties has at least in portland
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been cosmetic at best mostly graffiti and i feel that the response has been extremely disproportionate tear gas on crowd control munitions aimed directly at the heads of protesters it's been frankly just over the top and extremely violent when acting homeland security secretary chad wolf describes protesters on the casts and violent mobs how far off the money. i just don't think that's true at all if you look you'll see that the protesters have been responsible for i believe 0 of the actual injuries to human beings and all of the injuries to human beings have been at the hands of the police and protesters have engaged in some limited property destruction it's true but i just don't think that's comparable to the kind of violence that we're seeing against the police i don't think that just the description of violent anarchistic is accurate at all i think what you have is a bunch of concerned citizens who frankly had enough of the police brutality in america who were taking a stand exercising their 1st amendment rights and being violently suppressed that's
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where they stopped it wasn't that they just started with the george floyd protests . what are people protesting about now well i think that's and i can only speak for myself i think that these protests have a multiple to give people with multitude of different reasons but i do think it's expanded but i think it's all connected you've got the systemic racism of america which is tied into the police the history of the police the brutality of the police tied into white supremacy tied into a lot of the. proto fascist tendencies of our current administration and i think that as the scope of these protests have expanded and as the the reaction from the police and the feds has expanded that the the things that we're addressing has expanded as well but it's all the same mess which is that america needs to get its brutality problem under control needs to address its history of white supremacy and frankly needs reform and abolition of the police what effect have these federal troops have the protests and the protesters. if anything it's galvanized people on
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the ground 2 weeks ago we had maybe one or $200.00 people showing up tonight we've kind of lost steam but since the feds have begun to routinely violate people's rights and be incredibly violent we've seen those crowds well into the thousands we had over 2000 last night and that's become very normal portlanders are not willing to put up with this and i don't see these protests dying down until the feds back down to about these unidentified unidentifiable snob squads scooping people off the streets and interrogating them what do they want what do they want to know. it's a great question and i don't i have not thankfully been snatched i've heard from people that it was really quite generic questioning i'm not sure what they want in my opinion it seems to be more of a terror tactic than anything else they're not targeting people who have done anything they're targeting people walking away from protests people who were involved but not accused of any kind of crime to me it feels like they're trying to
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intimidate people let them know that if they show up to these protests that the feds can do basically anything they want to them so what needs to happen that i'm in portland for all these processes to put down the signs and go home and get on with our lives well as i said earlier different protesters will tell you different things i think there's a very large faction in portland that would like police abolition by which we don't mean lawlessness or anarchy but a complete reformation of the way that we deal with law enforcement in america there is no reason for armed gunman to be addressing things like domestic violence disputes or traffic stops and i think that what poor leaders want is nothing short of a systemic rearrangement of the way that we address justice in a way that protects and serves the people instead of as this gang of armed thugs that all too often is just brutalizing the people they're supposed to be helping thanks for joining us activist and journalist nora deed poll thank you very much.
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court here in germany has given a 2 year suspended sentence to a former nazi concentration camp guard for his role in the murders of thousands of people world war 2 bruno de was 17 at the time he's now $93.00 he insists he was not responsible for the killings the trials likely to be one of the last of those involved in the holocaust. a 2 year suspended prison sentence from a juvenile court not the outcome one might expect for a role in the murder of over $5000.00 people but now aged $93.00 was a small cog in the nazis machinery of killing and he was a teenager at the time he was a guard at the form of concentration camp near good danskin what is now poland from august 944 to april 945 historians estimate around 65000 people were murdered here in various ways in
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a gas chamber or by shooting or poison or through disease and exhaustion bruno deeded sentry duty keeping watch preventing inmates from fleeing in court he denied guilt saying he knew little about the killings and was not in a position to prevent suffering. but still thought survivor. who gave evidence in the case remembers it differently. so his testimony before the called was a nothing but a lie because standing on the watchtower he had a view of the whole camp right under his nose as he stood next to the machine gun was so that if anything it happened an inmate rebellion or a riot he would have shot without hesitating. it was the 2011 conviction of former camp guard john demjanjuk as an accessory to murder at the sobibor death camp that opened the way to
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a string of such cases against minor figures he did not kill but facilitated the killing demjanjuk died before his appeal could be heard but the case helped to cement the view that in the context of the holocaust guards were perpetrators to the judges found bruno di guilty as an accessory to 5232 murders the number killed while he was at stewart off in his closing statement he apologized to all those who as he said went through the hell of this insanity but many survivors will feel that such words and a sentence which in effect falls short of punishment is not justice enough let's look at some of the matters arising from this with our yacov as a research fellow and lecturer of the fredricka schiller university yanna his book holocaust angsty examines how holocaust memory in the united states influenced to post war west germany welcome to day w.
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so we have a 2 year suspended sentence and that no jail time than acting as an accessory to 5232 murders does that sound like justice. well i think well 1st of all good evening to you nice to be able to join you tonight. i think that if. on the face of it it's in oh there are a number of reasons. to not consider this you know an adequate or just a sentence the number of 2 year sounds very little but i think the court really took into account at the age of die at the time when he served as the guards and that's one of the reasons why he was tried in a juvenile court and that's why the court had a suspended sentence. so i think. you know considering their overall circumstances it's probably an adequate on its infancy compared to 2 other simple
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and similar case just ok and i want to play you a clip now i've if this is a from zoar off speaking to d.w. today from his director of the simon reason tells and the civil jury has a horrendous reckitt in terms of terms of prosecuting nazis during the initial decades of question or many for example many of the judges themselves were members of the nazi party and the i'll give you example there were 120000 best geishas of nazi war criminals and less than 7000 were were convicted. so that gives you a sense of how faulty justice was but when many years later now and in a sense the german government the legal authorities made a correct decision a decade ago to make it to facilitate the prosecution of nazi war criminals by
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saying that anyone who served in a death camp or camp with the apparatus for mass murder like a guest chamber that it was used at all. can be prosecuted even if there is no evidence of a specific crime against a specific victim motivated by racial hatred which was in till 10 years ago the standards by which that's what criminals would press were prosecuted well thank god they changed that because it's virtually impossible to prove so you come to how would you characterize that they were friends tammany has pursued nazi war criminals. i think i would agree on many points with that with inference or off statement that we just heard and i absolutely agree with with last comment that he made that it was a 100 percent correct decision by germans germany's courts. during the demjanjuk trial in 2011 and then another court's we affirm this decision in 2015 when
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i was with concentration camp guard. of the burning was put on trial that. those individuals who played a supporting role. could be put on trial based on on the argument of association with their clients and highest german fellow courts actually confirm these rulings in 2016 and even though we are seeing you know you know it seems like this is very delayed a very delayed justice i think it's still important that these old men are still being being prosecuted and being put on trial. as jimmy's attitude to the holocaust changed over the decades. yes germany's attitude has changed very much significantly over the past 7 decades so to say since december 7th of the past 75 years since the end of world war 2. it's you know it's a very long story and
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a very complicated process but one could say that the western money and then unified germany which you know fall out west germany and this and this kind of development you know took from its early years on responsibility for the holocaust but there was really very have that. knowledge in a little responsibility most of the blame and guilt was put on a small group off off top level nazis while the majority of germans you know consider themselves as either victims or you know people who participated because they followed orders. and this was also very common common. meant in earlier trials that that we've seen or that we've that we start and. we see only the a significant shift in the 1993 when there's a lot of new research about the holocaust emerging i want to debate in many european countries the night it states changes if it significantly and germany
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finally takes full responsibility for the holocaust also by acknowledging that it was a very large amount of german. who committed these crimes and what about the way the country is sort of confronted its past the economic success built on such a bloody foundations the relatives that no one dares to talk about. he made a little bit more specific. what are you thinking about the idea i'm asking you whether germany has faced up to that so germany is a successful country how much has he looked at that success and said well do you know what a lot of that money was was very badly come by. yeah i think that we. we've seen a lot of just wrecked thing. happening but also with a very very long delay in it was only in 2000 for example that
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a large german companies took full responsibility for quite millions off of the east european forced labor us and gave money into a big fund. distributed company so that the form of forced laborers were still alive at the time. so you see these forms of reckoning but again with that with a very long very long delay ok thank you for joining us here you are best aid from the university of iowa apologies for the technical quality. that china has successfully launched an unmanned pro to mask the 1st time beijing has attempted an independent mission to another planet china's largest carrier rocket blasted off from challenge space launch center on the island of high not a mass will be at its closest point to earth that's about 55000000 kilometers away
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for about a month and its windows are only available every couple of years so the probes expects to read states that destination in february when it will attempt to land on a fast plane on the planet's northern hemisphere and that it will deploy a robot to explore the planet's surface for around 90 days time he says this is the 1st of many such missions. thought when it comes to planetary exploration after the 1st mars exploration mission there will also be an exploration of asteroids and a plan for a plan across the to jupiter as well as a mission to collect samples from mars and return that were planning such missions some of you. well dr david browne's an astrophysicist of from the astronomy and astrophysics group at work at university in the u.k. welcome to day w. i think sounds exciting and dangerous. good evening it is certainly exciting and as you mentioned in your introduction this is china's 1st independent mission to mars and as with any deep space mission there is an element of danger to
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it the 7 minutes descent to the surface of mars from orbit is notorious for failures of previous probes and about hof of previous missions to mars for more countries have been successful so this isn't a big investment for china yes and the u.a.e. launched a mars mission this wake up the u.s. launches one next week as you mentioned that your crashed one in 2017 as did india last year why all this activity now around us. well as you said miles is coming up to its closest approach to the earth and when you're dealing with interplanetary missions you really want to try and tie in your travel to take advantage of these close approaches if you time it wrong you can add months
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onto your travel time which then increases the amount of fuel you need and that's the cost of the mission and so you really want to time it around these points that's why we have this flow of 3 missions. this 2 week period. and there was another mission actually in europe in a mission to mars that was due to launch this year but because of delays they've had to delay that by a full 2 years to take advantage of the next opportunity and what are they all looking for up there. well there's a lot we don't yet know about mas although it's one of the most highly explored and places outside of the earth there is a lot we don't know and every every device new technology development that gets pushed onto a mission tells us a little bit more about it and the region this mission is going to explore is this vast plane which has a very large amount of frozen water underneath the surface and so what they're
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looking to explore is really the the the geography of that region of mars how it might have been shaped by the water. what the material that that's covering up the ice is made of and how it behaves and try to figure out a little bit more about the conditions on mars and how they've evolved over time ultimately this does that will feed into the ongoing search and investigation to see if we could have. or could be hosting life at some point i want sort of track record does china have in space missions. that's a pretty good one they the chinese national space agency is a fairly young organization and it was only founded in its current form in 1993 but since then they've. put 11 astronauts into space they've had
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several successful lunar missions including the fast ever rover or in the 1st of a mission to the far side of the main that rover is still active right now. this is their 2nd attempt to send a mission to mars the 1st one failed through no fault of the chinese. the chinese aspect of that mission and that was beyond their control so they have a good track records. in nest space program and i see i see no reason why they shouldn't continue with this and what it planning to do what's ton of planning to do with the information that's collected. well they're you going to use it to feed some of the ongoing research as i said into the environments amman's and they're also using some aspects of this mission as technology demonstrators. both for potential developments of the lunar program but also for developing. future
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missions to go back to miles as the clip you played said. they're talking about potentially doing a sample return mission from mars so some of the technology they use in this mission could be put into that future mission to bring material back from miles and there's a lot that we could learn. with material being brought back much in the way that we and the apollo missions brought material back from the main you can do a lot more once you have it in a lab on earth and. heard that there was a problem with it so in that time it wasn't looking to share the data it. brought back. that is always a possibility that would be disappointing if it turns out to be true. international corporation is is one of the foundational aspects of modern science
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particularly when you're looking at penetrates ration. not sharing information is is a potential risk area. as i said that would be disappointing good talking here thank you for joining us dr david bach from warrick university. i'm not it's that they are the conversation continues online you can join us on twitter i've outstayed up the new political follow me up phil gal give us the hash tag of the day.
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