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america's top diplomat is in europe and on a mission to rebuild the alliances former president trump pushed to the brink yesterday we saw western powers target china with sanctions and now nato is focusing on the threat from vladimir putin's russia but is everyone on the same page tonight germany and the u.s. on a collision course over russian natural gas berlin says this is about good business washington says this is a bell poor judgment i bring gulf in berlin this is the day. the main reason i'm i'm here and the president by asked as is to be here this week is to reaffirm strongly the united states' commitment to nato to this alliance
which has been the cornerstone of peace prosperity stability for the ancillary community for more than 70 years the united states wants to rebuild our partnerships 1st and foremost with our nato allies. also coming up the german chancellor says that her country is now in the grips of a new pandemic what is it new germany's seemingly never ending lockdown and the banks a nation role well that looks more like a crawl well. we basically have a new pandemic the mutation from great britain has taken over which means we have a need virus. that if you will again and it's clearly more lethal more contagious and contagious from longer. i've come here to express the united states' steadfast commitment to that alliance which has been the cornerstone of peace prosperity stability for the ancillary community for more than
70 years. the u.s. secretary of state comes to europe and there are bridges that he wants to repair to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and to all of you around the world welcome we begin the day with the transatlantic ties that bind more or less u.s. secretary of state anthony blinken is meeting with his nato counterparts this week he brought his tool belt with him because he plans on doing a lot of repairing and rebuilding u.s. president biden has promised to make good on the past 4 years in which trump's american 1st policies left the u.s. allies feeling as if relations were going from bad to worse america's new top diplomat wants relations between washington and nato members to be closer than ever before and to be more unified than they have ever been. is lincoln's wish list more like wishful thinking as pulling our correspondent terry
scholz terry has covered nato for years the been the flow of the transatlantic tide give me to you terry's of how would you describe u.s. nato relations tonight are we talking about a high tide or is it more like a low tide. well definitely a rising tide brant but there really wasn't anywhere to go but up after the 4 years of president trump as you mentioned very difficult years for nato in which trump criticize the alliance criticized allies by name germany in particular you know people told me constantly that they felt like they had to be watching twitter to find out what the u.s. policies would be and that was was really nerve wracking for an alliance that needs to show a united front to deter all enemies i was actually joking with secretary general stolzenberg today that it sounded like secretary blinken had stolen some of his lines and he left in a way that you could tell he's very relieved to have this kind of narrative coming
out of the biggest ally yeah that's definitely a relief for him what is nato hoping to see from this new president and his new administration. well i think they're already seeing it and you picked up on this word repair this is a word that secretary blinken is using a lot and they know exactly what that means to allies he says we want to revitalize the alliance starting with nato and you know brant it's not only secretary blinken he's the 1st to come here in person but defense secretary lloyd austin's 1st foreign phone call was to secretary general stoltenberg that also was designed to send a clear message and we've just learned tonight brant that a president biden will be joining a summit of european union leaders of virtually on thursday so it's clearly a hole of administration approach to to really revitalize these trans-atlantic ties yeah those are the positive signs there is a possible fault line though in the alliance and it's called the nord stream to natural gas pipeline linking russia to germany take a listen to how the u.s.
secretary of state describes that deal president biden has been very clear in saying that he believes the pipeline is a bad idea. bad for bad for europe bad for the united states ultimately it's in contradiction to the use on energy security goals it has the potential to undermine the interests of ukraine poland a number of other close partners or allies and say read the u.s. president and democrats and republicans in congress they are all in the same page here do nato members do the share washington's concern that germany's energy deal with russia is a band deal for european security. well remember brant there are 30 members of nato and so there is a really wide divergence of views but clearly there are some that very definitely share the u.s.
view the baltic states poland and they've been complaining about north stream too for years let's listen to what our brussels bureau chief alexander of a nominee got out of secretary general stolzenberg when she asked that question this afternoon the reality is that. since that was based on consensus nato us and lines have not made an decision on north stream to we are focused on how we can increase the visit diversification of supplies on the deceased has shifted to security of supply but we don't have a new position on north sea into. yet as he mentioned they don't take any position because they need to all agree on one stance and that's not going to happen when it comes to nordstrom too it's also just not the kind of thing nato would really make a statement about the foreign ministers terry of nato members are meeting this week to prepare for this summit of nato members and leaders president biden he knows everyone at the table including you also into this just don't beg so do
a comparison force here between stoltenberg and donald trump versus stoughton bag and judged by the dynamics be the differences. well brant stoltenberg was actually known as the trump whisperer and people were very relieved that he somehow managed to keep a lid on president trump most of the time and when he would go to washington they would you know get along is as well as could be expected and still is in burgas is pretty implacable but you can certainly see immediately when when joe biden was elected stoltenberg put out photos of him having having met biden at the munich security conference they were smiling they were sitting next to each other it was clear that that he is relieved to have somebody who is not afraid to say that they are a huge supporter of the alliance so it's a much easier job for a young stolzenberg heading into the future now it's good to hear that the stress factor is at least a little less than it used to be our correspondent terry scholz the least tonight
from brussels terry as always thank you. germany is set to begin its 6th month and a nationwide coronavirus lockdown and it will be the most restrictive since the pandemic began after discussion into the early hours of the morning chancellor angela merkel along with regional leaders agreed that the lockdown must be longer and definitely not lighter so teague levels are high and it did not help soothe anyone's nerves when the chancellor said that germany is now in a new. germany is once again gearing up for another months of lockdown only weeks after a tentative loosening of rest to actions a year interdependent make the opposition says the government's handling of the crisis has been chaotic and this latest action is no help and minute people are just as exhausted from the measures as they are from the pandemic the response has
been too late too slow too hesitant and the losing of restrictions at the beginning of the months was not rolled out it was the right protection in place. if you want to lick mitchell it's feared that public acceptance as regards the measures which india and are for people's own protection will further decrease and people will lose trust in the government's professionalism and ability to act. on that state premiers involved in the talks said the decisions are justified by germany's exponential growth in infections that happen to figures in our state where once again significantly higher yesterday an incidence rate of over 80 that's why we unfortunately need more new measures to try and curb the 3rd wave in the hope of creating new prospects for the future enough i don't buy it and because of current the prospect of another months of restrictions do a mixed response on the streets of belin. in principle i think it's good of course it has serious consequences for students businesses and hospital it industry
but obviously the how to draw a tough line in order to contain the pandemic. with the guy. that had it it's a total catastrophe it's incomprehensible we have to live with the disease completely it's completely of right otherwise we'll never get a handle on it. the whole circus the back and forth and merican always proclaiming she's invented a new word for something it true really annoys me and often thrown out i didn't know where can a vaccination center and see how the place looks and how people are affected there should definitely be a longer lockdown. a year into japan they make pragmatism seems to be giving way in some cases to resignation and skepticism are let's take the story out of washington d.c. epidemiologists and health economists joins me now good to see you again i'd like 1st to start by listening to how the german chancellor described the pandemic in
germany last night take a listen in that interview with us that's the view from the fundamentally we face a new virus of the same kind but with 3 different characteristics more deadly more infectious and infectious for longer. and this means that we have to deal with elements that we didn't know about a christmas. via. the chance or cause this is a new pandemic now the situation we all agree is serious but new pandemic is that term is it bordering on scaremongering i mean is that what we need to be saying to the public right now. i don't think it's scaremongering i think it's a reality that the old old 1.0 most common strain has basically almost disappeared it's almost entirely gone from the u.k. and disappearing quickly from mainland europe but now the 117th u.k.
variant is dominating as well as many other variants and it has very different properties it is about what is the percent faster transmission it is about 60 percent greater risk of theirs and they have and it is. factious for a longer period of time and initial initial buyers so it has many many different property but the one property that is still the same is the back seat so there are many things m e is are so much different and what used to work for containing the whole virus any more for this one and that's why it's appropriate to use new pet is it safe to say though that if the vaccination rollout here in europe and in germany if it had been earlier and more efficient we would have more people vaccinated there would be fewer bodies fewer hosts for the vaccine to mutate it. yes you were host for the virus mutated yes and if the rollout in continental
europe was as fast as it was here in israel u.s. u.k. i think it would be much your case and i think the risk of another huge surge is much lower but the truth is right now there is a potential risk for another search and the risk is happening and just look at brazil brazil has a new variant now variant is much more transmissible and it hasn't completely swamps and seek and collapse there of pearson's we do not want that and we need to get ahead of it so and that's what new zealand got head of it and took a long road seen if we get ahead of it now we can actually enjoy the spoils of the delayed gratification yeah i mean the vaccination rollout has been sluggish here in europe partly because astra zeneca has not delivered the doses the amounts that it promised but also because the public is hesitant about getting the shot from astra
zeneca today there are new concerns about this vaccine coming from the united states tell me what are these new concerns well it's not a real concern it was just actions and in their press release reported an older 79 percent as you can see whenever we knew or data it was showing 69 to 74 percent africa seen now though that's still good but i don't know why it needed to be. presented and used to hide that number. obviously the full data will be disclosed to the f.d.a. but the fact that you were putting their numbers a little bit in their press release and when everybody knew there were newer data is a little concerning but at the end of the it doesn't change the reality that this is going have to be something better to err to actually being very generous when i hear a pharmaceutical you know trying to fudge the numbers and what they want me to take a vaccine
a shot in the arm that is it's alarming because the trust factor is basically at 0 . so i would say yes that's alarming at the end there is an ultimate arbiter the ultimate arbiter is the independent f.d.a. the f.d.a. will how all of it will not be a press release based news it will be all the data it will see who are through all the data and investigate interrogates and she's going to come around every single number and so he can't get away with the we're just trying to make a good p.r. show and news hits but at the end of the day it's the f.d.a. that will be our you know this and that's why we should still trust this next i want to show you something that was posted on twitter today by the turkish sociologist and writer zen profession now she writes this see you me i supported a us trial of astra zeneca so it could undo the unnecessary damage to vaccine
confidence from their botched initial roll well yesterday i was cautious because again press release no data it turns out astra zeneca is botching this role well. all right obviously very frustrated person there i mean this is a p.r. disaster for astra zeneca what does it mean the in terms of ending the pandemic. well i think it is a p.r. disaster again in the end we know that the back scene is efficacious from the previous trials and with the new trials hopefully when it's reviewed by the it will be efficacious but i think the presidency i agree it's going to create more has been and slower uptake of this back seat for sure and there is other proxying it's not the only vaccine in the world although i know it's consequence of europe other than pfizer it is mostly only vaccine available many places but this is why we need
to get the other ones approved novak's johnson and johnson all these other vaccines are proven so that presidency issue will not be an issue long term because to get to the top of his more contagious the 117 we need to get to 8590 percent of people vaccinate and that is something we have to really take leadership to get to that number you'll be asking well we have been here about what's going on in the united states and about 25 percent of the population has had at least the 1st shot are you beginning to see in the population the impact of this growing number of people who have been vaccinated. you know i think we have a lot of people who are partially vaccinated and no fighting has gotten our way ahead of his 100000000. shot in 100 days promise he hit that date 58 so a u.s. death mean head of the curve and i'm hopeful but at the same time viewing something
is also growing in the u.s. it's in is already surpassed 50 percent across the country estimated and with that we are concerned that it will grow much faster than our uptake of vaccine well i hope and slow down so what i think there might still be a surge in it may all be a probably a smaller one we have before you know it is definitely a race against the virus and against the clock eric feingold in joining us tonight from washington d.c. as always we appreciate your time and your insights thank you. fast rising numbers of latin american migrants among them many unaccompanied children are trying to enter the united states through mexico and that's despite the biden ministrations warnings not to make the journey many of the migrants have been making their way on foot north to the border with the u.s.
trying to avoid the mexican national guard the flow of migrants is testing joe biden's promise to end former president donald trump's hard line immigration policies. and for more now i'm joined by our washington correspondent carolyn it to morrow she is covering this story force and she's been to the us mexico border reporting carolyn it's good to see you how big is the surge in migrants heading for the border tonight. the data from the u.s. customs and border protection shows that there has been indeed a 28 per cent increase in immigrants arrested others held on border including unaccompanied minors but it is important to stress that this is not a surge that can be attributed exclusively to the by an administration and to his politics and the current increase of people being arrested on the border sits in
a predictable pattern of seasonal changes in undocumented immigration the war it gets the more people there to make that dangerous journey to north america and it has always been like that also under the terms of ministration but now many of the immigrants have also heard the president biden spoke about having and planning to have a more humane immigration policy and that has of course also motivated them as well to make this journey let me show you what i mean we went to the south and border and we reported from both sides that means also from the mexican side and there we visited a shelter and that is fully packed of immigrants seeking asylum in the united states let's take a look. pester abraham barberry lives in the united states but there is regularly to his church on the mexican side he's an unconventional priest he migrated to houston over 3 decades ago with his mother. after a difficult past and a direct scene he started a new life and became
a baptist minister he's now one of the few people on the mexican side. as many immigrants as possible in his church it's here on the mexican side where people arrive from a long and a very dangerous journey they're waiting to apply for political asylum in the united states many of them don't know how long they're going to wait with. currently their 74. immigrants from central america mexico and cuba sheltered here many of them are also from chiapas a region in mexico known for drug trafficking and or a criminal activity against indigenous people is very high. and chip with nice it's not safe and she passes not for my kids this is why we're asking for political asylum because we know that kids are safer there so they must get in months but
that soon will sneak. my goal is to arrive in the u.s. and be granted political asylum to have freedom and peace for me and my kids and i trust the president biden is going to help us. by you know that. abraham's mission is to help something he has been doing for years with his unconventional rapper church by attempting to attract young people from the area to his congregation but some weeks ago he notice he has to do something to help the immigrants on the streets of my thumb but i want to record. we noticed there were so many people they didn't know where to go. we're going to help them when people ask me if i think they're going to make it over to the u.s. or tell them the truth. i don't think so if you want to. know. however having a skate from repression in cuba or live threats by the drug mafia in and do it as
they are convinced anything else is better so they wait and keep hoping. it was an excellent story that we heard one margaret say that she hopes president will help the plight of latin american migrants and let them into the united states and we can understand that she wants that to be true is it going to be true. it's difficult to say president biden promised during his campaign that he will have a more humane immigration policy and he stopped indeed the construction of the border wall he stopped the muslim travel ban he decided that the people who have already applied 2 years ago of for asylum in the united states that they are allowed to enter the united states instead of waiting in mexico but all these changes were done by executive orders and now changing the whole system of immigration policies meaning meaning of making it easier for this people to apply for asylum granting a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants in the states and so on this all
would mean. entering and passing that immigration bill and that it's a difficult point because it's not clear if the senate would pass that's. a very democratic so to say to me gratian bill the moderates who are coming from central america they have to traverse the entire links of mexico to get to the border with the united states is there a sense in the u.s. that mexico is doing all that it can to stem the tide of monger. a few weeks ago the leader of the reach probably come party in the house of representatives mr mccarthy he paid a visit. with 10 more congressmen from his party and he talked about a crisis created by presidential policies of the current administration so it's pretty clear that this whole immigration issue is being used in
a political way they're trying to make a thread out of it a threat to national security in their words and this is something that could be out of a playbook of donald trump they are creating fear and it reminds me actually of the situation in germany with angle america where in 2015 the nationalists they also tried to create a fear out of the immigration situation in the country. here a little so sure that we will see what happens clearly to more on the story boards in washington tonight there really is always thank you. well the day is almost done but the conversation continues online you'll find us on twitter either in the news or you can follow me or brett golf t.v. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody.
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a future for diamonds can lab made gems bring an end to the mystery of mining. but 1st another precious commodity more time in the himalayas hydroponics stations are on the rise and they're taking that toll on nature. like elsewhere temperatures are rising in the himalayas iglesias of northern india a melting with devastating consequences in february this year a mudslide into rock and buried almost 200 people dozens of them lost their lives climate activists say hydro power stations. to blame that construction involves large scale blasting and tree felling needing to learn to ration now local residents are fighting back. and you may never create i'm saying is angry with the government and its promise of environmentally friendly energy he lives on the same river a small tributary in emotional predation state within 20 years this state built
over 800 hydroelectric power stations 2 of them on the same age. to begin with we thought this project would greatly benefit and develop the area but when the work was underway it didn't turn out the way they play and. there's no water in the entire area. roads our environment our homes our land everything has been destroyed we've been left with nothing. got. big gulp an immediate. st valley residents say they were promised compensation and jobs instead they lost their entire livelihood which were traditionally based on agriculture. now with the 2 hydroelectric plants on the same river there's nowhere near enough water for the farmer's fields. and 2 more power plants are under construction there. as an environmentally friendly power source
hydroelectric plants have become an important generator of electricity around the world in 3rd place behind coal and gas. and that also makes them a lucrative source of income. in the macho predation the state government rakes in over 9000000000 rupees that's 100000000 euros in electricity revenues annually. environmental activists now regard the hydro power boom with skepticism. thing research as the effects it's had on biodiversity and people's lives in the region. these mega projects have a negative impact on the environment around them when the land has been expropriated it's then submerged in water that means sources of livelihood like agriculture are completely destroyed. there's large scale deforestation construction and influx of people and that all leads to further environmental
imbalances but it's part of making good body heat something. on top of that the region is prone to earthquakes dam breaches avalanches and landslides would be catastrophic for the people living here there was a landslide recently in the neighboring state of iraq and. the river teatime lies only 40 kilometers away from the same valley. another small tributary but it flows through untouched nature. it's one of the few in the region with no hydro electric plant. that's things to run jeev bharti in 2002 a number of hydroelectric power stations along the river were given planning permission. bharti teamed up with other villagers and went to court. everybody was on the project all that up for you. and all the bureaucracy all
right would see everybody as they did and most used except if you thought you know ben you preach to the little couldn't. buy you any it was a lot of private investors who would have taken the. electricity for the weekend i think we would all just everything's going to pay. the villagers won their case though it took 3 years. their homeland and livelihoods have been preserved they still live off agriculture and fishing and in recent years they've also established a sustainable tourist industry in their valley inviting travellers to their own homes. the would be a small home state will be the only didn't there's not a lot of you know division that took place and the all this dark people that
buddhism is has to be treated as an ordinary day of income generation. you know and thankfully they're also good. you know prove that i. now 20000 people are visiting the teton valley annually the residents are in much more with tourism than the hydro plant operators. promised them in compensation. anglers hikers birdwatchers and study groups mostly from india come to see the myriad species in the environment the villagers defended so well. the conflicts the common in mining regions to cobalt platinum and gold are known as rare earths and industry is dependent on them just one cell phone can contain 60 different elements all of which have to be extracted from the ground such mining destroys vast areas of land and natural habitats and countries rich in such
precious metals often suffer more than they gain but that could be a light at the end of the tunnel at least when it comes to diamonds. and the lovely a token of love. anybody ever had a marketing miracle. an industry just for. a diamond is forever dot com. inspiration for countless song. and movie. girls. but they also cause brutal civil wars. and environmental destruction. beautiful pure precious diamonds are strangers to the earth's surface their
true home is in the hellish foundry of the earth's mantle. more than 150 kilometers deep with temperatures over 800 degrees celsius under conditions impossible to replicate except that's not quite true. scientists can grow diamonds in the land. are seen as it's my dime and they are getting so much better and faster. that soon enough we might no longer need to mind the. damage. is actually taught but to this community. this is far i moved to an activist to a spent his life exposing crimes in zimbabwe's diamond business this made him into a target for corrupt authorities do you actually wanted me executed. the state
security did my home i managed to sneak through the window. his reports horrified western consumers we did a lot of it is the miners going in there that was all that so in the kitchen they don't and it's been the custom in dentists it dogs in their. people also shoot to kill. thanks to his work and that of n.g.o.s like human rights watch and global witness human rights are better protected today but environmental destruction persists diamond mines can cause deforestation respiratory illnesses and polluted water in regions where that's already a scarce resource people used to to fish from that river we cannot do it anymore because of the syndicates coming from the customer because i'm dying the fish are
dying so it's a disaster normally hold them accountable for their crimes but economics could succeed where politics failed the profitability of these mines depends on diamonds perceived rarity and that's starting to crumble. diamonds were never precious shan's family's been in the diamond business for 3 generations but his company is breaking industry taboos they're very diamonds was of me a myth created by de berry. a company that for a long time controlled the production of most of the world's silence. and which has its one time chairman said increase their value by making them artificially scarce . since the 1960 s. it's been possible to make tiny grains for industrial applications. for 5 years ago we started to see advancements in technology that allowed for
production of general quality diamonds and high enough quality to be used and. here's how it works we take a slice of all to create a diamond and it's arranged in a proprietary chamber you arrange those seeds almost like a waffle and you close the chamber you raise the temperature inside. it combination of propriety gases when the temp jews in the mid 13 to 1500 degree centigrade between splits the carbon that separated starts bonding this one. starts connecting with this seat that's sitting at the bottom of the chamber and i mean grossly have highly this technology is energy intensive but it's still more sustainable and profitable than traditional mines just a few months ago one of the world's biggest diamond mines closed forever because it
was no longer profitable to keep digging the conductivity makes diamonds wonder material for engineers it could also make strings more resistant solar panels more efficient lasers more powerful hard drives smaller and much much better electronic devices these higher tech out. cations represent i was very very small part of the industry at this point. 3 so it could be decades away but i think we're going to see a dime and news and a lot more of the products that we have seen every day basis 2. and let's not forget we're no longer needing to mind. with lab grown diamonds will provide a more sustainable alternative for zimbabwe. the number one that is less human rights abuses number 2 is the issue of pollution it will be significantly reduced. and then say at least damn what my thing
is that governments and even the military. therefore i completely support. low pay and dangerous working conditions are common in the ship breaking industry 2600 search the container ships were demolished last year alone the oil and chemicals released in the process pose a huge risk to most people on the planet and frightens a grave polluters over their roughly 30 year life spans to one vessel can use up to 300 tons of heavy fuel oil a day the global shipping industry produces 940000000 tons of c o 2 emissions every year new regulations from 2020 aim to reduce this but can the sec to do without heavy fuels and steel all together one shipyards in costa rica
has found a way. when the tree is felled in costa rica there needs to be a good reason. and this is it a traditional ship named saber for transporting cargo it's being built with the wood of $400.00 trees but it's carbon neutral we claim to be more than $4000.00 trees so far and we will be creating over 12000 before saving their water. the main office for the. shipyard is in a treehouse. all in keeping with the overall concept of sustainability this is where the ambitious project is managed. well we want to do is using save our flagship sept 4th the for profit company and prove that we can meet green shipping fire. international shipping produces a significant share of global emissions. is designed to change that course by
showing that things can work differently inspired by the project dozens of people have come on board from i'm back from a boat building instructor from holland and from. the united states through the prime. local time for ball on i am from portugal my name's russell i'm from the west coast of canada and i'm support crew so i do whatever needs to be done every helping hand is needed the initiators including links from canada want to raise awareness and provide an alternative form of shipping their freighter is to be 100 percent emissions free and that's not all. it's for using sustainable local materials right that are sourced within the region so we also have a clean shipping. business that we're building but we're also also promoting sustainable building as.