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the un safest places just. last detail often a preacher and 1st human companion a south african story just won the best documentary prize at this year's oscars. hello i'm kristie want to it's good to have your company it is being called a game changer and the start of a new era germany has promised to begin returning biasa facts known as the banning bronzes to nigeria next year making it the 1st country to do so germany has a collection of just over $1000.00 beanie bronzes there on display in museums in cologne in dresden. and now the sculptures and mitchell process from the ancient kingdom of beneath which is today known as it all stayed. in southern nigeria the
bronzes were looted by british soldiers in 8097 and sold to museums in north america and europe the largest collection of the bronzes is held by the british museum. nigeria has been trying to get back the bronzes for decades without success but momentum has been building over the last fiji is with calls growing even louder philosophy axes cheering the colonial era to be returned to their places of origin germany's culture minister explained why berlin had decided to act now she said quote we are confronting historic and moral responsibility we want to contribute to a common understanding and reconciliation with the descendants of the people who were robbed of a cultural trisha's during the time of colonialism close quote and i'm pleased to welcome the senegalese professor. on to the program to talk about this he is currently the director of the incision of african studies at columbia university in
new york welcome professor jan to have you on the program so this development is being called a game changer give us your reaction to the news that germany will start returning banyan bronzes tonight here in next year where it is great news indeed be good as you say did. a game changer. the decision by the french president to refute certain objects was groundbreaking decision that this is a huge huge green changer because the big new brands is this huge. venue yet professor in your work here in have talked about that how the plane in bronze is all particularly important tell us what makes them so special. well when they were good to eat 897 you know way you know discovered them more and
more britney and the binion bronzes really changed the perception that europeans had of african fact they were just fascinated by the sophistication of the work they were. really stunned astonished at 1st by what it meant in terms of mastery of metal work and in particular a definitive sophisticated technique known as last wax. casti meaning that you you build if you're in wax and then you poor. into it and when it. gets. cold you takes the form of whatever it is that you look carved out of wax and so that's the and a very important aspect in my 1st place that is on the european side it meant for
the perception of african fact and then that is the fact that the way in which they where acquired a quiet is really a euphemism they were looted they where to be taken by violence from. the palace of the of the king of many of the them they need in their eyes to 1000 sentry that's right professor so what do you make off of the arguments against restitution right the most prominent being the fear that the op is safe and best ok for in japan and in the north african museums american youth that museums than it would be in africa where let's take the brunt because precisely. yes state these days these brands as they were taken from a place we have the rest if they were taken from the palace of the king so the fairest and most prominent thing to be considered is the fact that yeah talking about writing if that principle is established then everything else becomes
technical it is known of that as the different upped and a different a bit older infrastructure forgotten for museums etc yes countries have now asking for their situation of the objects meaning that they have. developed capacity to keep to and they have developed. also a phrase that professor just hold that thought for a 2nd because i do want to come back to something you just say to talk about righting a wrong so there is of course the marlin if we can all human right as you say what's what the study should be returned to its rightful owner but but beyond that what kind of connection do africans have to these objects. well let's take the bronze is one of the packs that the rounds packs that you had in the palace of the king. the king of britney at that time what do they do what would their function they were telling the narrative of the kingdom of. these.
testimonies of what she's known as after court and this is probably why they add a naturalistic act usually african act is known to be very symbolic they get abstract and not greedy reproducing reality as you tease that kind of symbolisation of reality in this particular case you have you know made a naturalistic act because they tend to their narrative of the kingdom itself we know that many of the heads. heads of kings they need so the narrative being told if you take that as you if you do it if you print it it means you act a king the memory of a particular kingdom so this is why it is not just the modern aspect he's really a weight off reconnecting memory that has been fragmented he's remembering
of the african mentally and that is professor. down here thank you professor it's been great having office on this topic thank you for having me we sent our team at all to get some reaction from people in nigeria where the news has been welcomed but as you're about to hear there are some doubts to. so who is surely good there it's self up to the country that needs i think the problem is every one of us not only the governments do trust us or. if we. jump on our it's only that we should use our assets we should keep its feet i believe this year it's only back to the building and the states. that should be a museum there. by the federal governments and the people is the assets so that we
take very well with loose or illegals are with the congo and there are lots and i was there and we're back to square one. i mean nigeria we we we are we may not be because we don't happen at all those things but are the same time is our own then it should be returned back to this country and i wish you every every state should do i mean one of 2 things to keep those scenes be they are very important to us they are more or less like of on the 2 we should keep our one just needs to return. back to nigeria but did you have in nigeria ease security see how we can add the governments will be able to protect these assets what's went out finally so it's assets in nigeria will have its back that's what that's my own opinion firstly naturally won't we see if it sees it as his belongs
to an angel issued its only but as i messed things i mean in defense about in the past even when the brain gets what you're going to give it to because we can be sure the present government's going to lease only back to again you'll say you bought something so tell me does it point sign me when i need it i need or they don't it's all in his life look at the benefits of it if he's going to if it's something that it will keep in our museums that our children can have access to. beneficial boards i know they go to the museum going to send me back to the game so . i mean to find somebody who doesn't consign if they're really really in to do that i think that is kind from something has pricked their conscience. you understand so many things have been taken from us i said ted well country ignorant people. but it's left for the civilized
to look back and say is it what it. is has no meaning to them is our culture our things so it is nice in its outstretched in spirit to return. all i can say that i recall dots between. those in power when this thing inside returns to walk out on take care of feet. because it's like a blessing. that's to say whether i believe they can do it i don't. it's not just the banning bronson's from nigeria that all wanted by their rightful owners there is also a claim from cameroon from way a special artifact known as the tongue was stolen from a local king more than a century later it is still in germany but as our reporter found not everyone in cameroon is off the view that it should be brought back to the country.
has been advocating for the return of the sculpture still in from his godfather in 24. has made this copy of the tank and put it on shore. at the farm looted by the germans during the times it's on display at the museum in munich. we have kong to meet the prince for an interview but the spokesman told us he's not available at the moment but we are to the prince once the time to be reported to come route immediately on him however not everyone agrees that this should be immediately returned with princess $1000000.00 bill is an artist and fond of an absent. even do her great grandfather was executed in 1914 for resisting german rule that mira lindy's cameroon is not ready to receive the. letters to
tissue the repatriation it should be a process in the. it cannot be immediate. cannot be rushed. it has to be a process. we cannot receive an object tomorrow that was taken away more than 100 years ago it was taken away under very complicated circumstances. also claim to be the rightful owners of the time at least one more descendant of a king. on the artifacts or merely in this is a source of concern she was a time get to be returned a few years the conditions are not right. if an artifact is returned or who should it be given to us about his object this was not an object that was taken away from a family this is not an object that was taken away from an individual it was looted from a community so who is going to negotiate who is going to take charge of it. who
has been on the scene for 20 years. more than just cultural he thinks is a spiritual. look at creativity if it is brought back. remains that way or. bringing back the truncation the last year or will be a means to inspire the young generation of the more goodbyes and to create a base for inspiration and creativity in korea and to develop local culture if. most people here wondered. however there is no agreement on when how and to who the fuck should be hunted but. bad or very bad that is the verdict of
a new report by the watchdog reporters without borders when it comes to press freedom in nearly hoff's sub-saharan africa and it says the ability of journalists to do their job is being made worse by the covert 19 pandemic so who are the worst offenders. eritrea is bottom of the cross coming $180.00 out of $180.00 g. bush he is not far behind neither are nigeria and zimbabwe doing better gonna and south africa they come ahead off the u.k. it's ranked in africa is. now one country that has and has specially poor record when it comes to press freedom is mozambique journalists they are all subject to intimidation basing abductions and extrajudicial killings now we have the story of one journalist who has been missing now for more than a year. barrueco hasn't heard from his brother for over a year. who is a radio journalist who was kidnapped by
a unknown abductors on his way home from work he sent a colleague a message just before hand saying he was surrounded by soldiers. from the most east . to. see the people for their. mother who we as his family are very sad swe have no idea what might happen his brother has 2 children and there's also his wife right now the kids go through a bad time we as his family demand information why was he kidnapped where is he a big if we were going to police it was that aagot. well look what i did. was a menzies. who has been to the authorities repeatedly but got no on says his brother works for a local radio station and media from the peninsula where the government and international energy companies are planning to produce liquefied natural gas
islamist extremists are also active in the region carrying out attacks on villages journalists have great difficulties in getting access to the area but the local radio station has carried reports on the situation including a full scale assault on several weeks ago we tried to schedule interviews with the local government security forces as well as the ministry of defense but nobody was available to talk to us on camera here in the north it is fair to say that there is a climate of fear for local journalists but that is not the case in crisis areas journalists in was m.b. could face death threats kidnapping and physical assault colleagues from the w.'s portuguese for africa service among the victims the offices of a critical newspaper come out of the mozambique burns down last year in a suspected arson attack the publisher only just escaped being kidnapped. going to . do the precise. we believe that
all this is a part of a wider plan to correct down on media freedom this is part of a series of measures aimed at putting pressure on the paper now he's also. the editor says he and his colleagues are willing to risk their lives by remaining critical. give we need to know that we are inspired by the history of our country that has a beautiful history of a freedom struggle we believe the press plays a vital role enough holding freedom then promoting democracy without a free press we would have serious problems. will can only make sensible choices when they're properly enforced you know the division. who can only keep hoping that he will eventually hear from his brother his younger son was born after he was kidnapped and does not know his father
so that's the situation in mozambique and now for the big picture as we've heard the latest report on press freedom in africa shows the continent is still the most dangerous place for journalists and the covert 1000 pandemic has made journalists in africa even more fun ripple to talk more on this we've invited on to the program he heads up the africa desk for reporters without borders welcome to news africa on to tell us why the pandemic has made the work of journalists in africa even harder . well we. had a tremendous effect on journalism in africa is no exception when it started last year we have recorded 3 times as many aggressions a number interest of journalists as during the same period in a 2019 so we have also witnessed many attempts to totally control the flow of information the bounds of pandemic through criminalization of information connected to. through absence of transparency regarding the reality of depend the
meek and sometimes even through poll show or and complete denial of the reality of the severity of this virus and generally speaking it's been and still very. challenging for journalists to reports about it because. granted access to information and because sometimes our sources are right fear of talking about trying to defend them right and under as a report points out that the surgeon if he says that that africans and this have facing the pandemic is raided just never mind that janice often regarded as as enemies on the constant. as of course and when you look at the map you've got 23 out of 48 countries in sub-saharan africa that are still colored in a red or in black that means that the president situation in news countries nearly
of the comes in and is either difficult or very bad and and for instance africa remains and you said it the most violent area for journalists in the world exactions was at the very. level and one particular phenomenon that we have witnessed during this pandemic is that colvin during the call in 1000 benami authority that develops a tendency to consider is it deal fishel information with the valid information the only trustworthy source of information this is a very dangerous because we need independently produced information by a journalist was not always are right then filling in. a curate and invention and i go even in this difficulty if i'm we've seen examples of that so can your share some of those examples with us some independent important plant that jan does have to end during the pandemic yes we had in the commercials for example a journalist who has threatened by the government because she had revealed why the
. did not have any case of colvin 1000 yet when most of the countries were affected our investigation revealed that dissembles were collected and not been sent for analysis in zimbabwe and so we had this investigative journalist you know who ended up in jail a few weeks after he contributed to reveal massive embezzlement at the ministry of house regarding the. stuff for and fighting come in 1000 all right that is on a fresh air from report says. thank you ana thank you. south africa caught and not at this year's oscars their country played a role in the production that won the award for best documentary the film caught my octopus teacher focuses on an unusual connection between an octopus and a human in the waters near cape town a story and it's largely positive global reception have brought great pride to the
filmmakers and the local population. and we are told to. my archivist teacher. the academy joined a worldwide audiences in affirming my octopus teacher as a nature documentary with a difference. that i remember. most doctors. think it's a captivating tale of friendship south african filmmaker and naturalistic craig foster was intrigued by a young octopus he found in an underwater forest near cape town foster began to document their daily interactions and the mollusk wild him and his fellow directors this curiosity turned a personal video project into a full length documentary. i think it's
a lot so what is it we incrementally saw builds that to be something that could appeal to rule who not only interested in this or natural history in this environment but the source everything great is going to as a human being a source that relatable things he's dealing with guilt disappointments he's conflicted about things he's trying to sort of overcome security. and patience and assimilation all the source human qualities that. oh big question serious stories just the context is very young. and the effort is welcome on ground in cape town. i think it can have a profound effect not just on their feet when the tourist images take to finding something. amazing what to do with building up the skills. you know how
you how to build a. it's a lesson in how humans and nature can co-exist in mutual appreciation. isn't that incredible well that is it for now be sure to check out our other stories on the dot com forward slash africa we're also on facebook and on twitter we're always came to know what you think about the stories that we cover here on news africa well not out they'll soon be heading home today we'll need you with more pictures off nigeria's building fronts as we'll see you next time.
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