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i would never have so convenient, so open and so freely constantly remind myself because i grew up in a completely different way, the broad explorer and the stickers. jewish in europe. the 2 part documentary starts july 5th on dw, the ah, this is the w news, and these are our top stories. the u. s. supreme court has dismissed the republican lead challenge to the national health law and known as obamacare. the decision maintains affordable health insurance for tens of millions of americans, despite the courts increasingly conservative leaning, the justices rules 72, that a challenge mounted by several di did not have legal standing. republicans have
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the president of the us and russia met in geneva, switzerland, yesterday, not as friends or ella is the leader of the world's only superpower was supposed to put the leader of a former superpower on notice bite and says he expects to see the results in a few months. and yet this an answer a question, why should the us president, why should the west expect to change? why should anyone expect of vladimir putin to soon stop being bladder? mere potent, i'm break off and berlin. this is the day the value to be realistic and put on optimistic front and optimistic face. this is we, we will defend our interest. we are ready to continue
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a dialog if the american side is also willing to do it because this isn't just 2 guys having a chat. this is 2 countries making decisions that could affect the whole of the world ident, this gina stands, what he wants to achieve through. and that skillfully is see what happens. you know, is that all pressure goes the proof of the put it in the evening. we're going to know shortly also coming out to these secret beliefs of east germany, the stars kept tabs and files on practically everyone in the country where those files have been preserved as evidence of the recent past. they'll soon be stored to prevent that past from being figure out. how did you see starving people standing? magical? no. i just found out when i read about it,
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we would never thought about it. the thought of them standing there. now the world was who our viewers on p b. s in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin. the day one day after the summit between us, president biden and russian president booted and many in the west. wondering, did the meeting change anything? what we know is that both presidents agreed to more talks to continue nuclear arms control, as well as limiting the proliferation of future weapons. now that should include cyber warfare. biden has been clear that cyber attacks pose as much of a threat as conventional and nuclear arms. but it is not clear that fujen is on the same page. after the summer, when reporters asked the russian president about his country's cyber attacks on us targets, he rejected any involvement, no new narrative. there. the deep divisions between both countries remain. but
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perhaps the most striking change since geneva is in tone. how positive, not just polite, the russian president is referring to the u. s. president to recently said that he believes putin is a killer or cut or image of president by the way that is created in our media and in the american media has nothing to do with reality show and he needs to just no, he had a long trip and he flew across the atlantic jet lag and be changing of times only when i'm flying some way. it can be uncomfortable. but no, he looked cheerful. we talk face to face for 2 hours. maybe even more. wisdom was not, he knows what he's talking about. on fullness dealing with it here, you know, i didn't, it's the professional. when you, when you work with him, you need to listen carefully. so you didn't miss anything. well, he does not miss
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a thing that i can assure you, it was quite obvious to me that she was just a couple of hours later. the u. s. president was pressed by reporters on how he is now reading. whether you're fulton, take a listen, why, how can i help behavior, mister president. a the way you do all that was great. i said, what will change your behavior in the rest of the wall? react diminishes. i'm not competent. just stating the facts. i have to have your change in that double hour denied any involvement in cyber bills like human rights are due today unless volume. so how does that help to a construct? i don't understand that i owe my last apology. i should
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miss that was driving your life to be a good reporter, you gotta be negative. you got a negative. your life seems to me the way you all you never ask positive questions . my 1st guest has been called by the mere foods and public enemy number one. bill brown was once an investment tighten in russia. he is now a human rights advocate and he joins me tonight on the day bill. it's good to see you again. i mean, you so right there, it's easy for emotions to run high. when these 2 presidents are talking about each other. i'm wondering what is your post mortem read on this some? well, my, my feeling is that there's some, it shouldn't have happened in the 1st place. nothing was accomplished by this summit. and if anything vladimir putin came out in his, in the eyes of his own people as a winner. here you have a man who is responsible for hacking elections. cyber
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attacks on pipelines, shooting down, passenger planes, bombing civilians and syria invading foreign territory in ukraine. he shouldn't be invited and given a stage with the most important man in the free world it's, it's just a, an elevation and validation of him that that's on deserved. and as we see there was, there was no, there was no deliverables, there was no accomplishments that in any way, justified that gifts of let them recount. what do you make of the us president saying that maybe the fruits of this labor will be, will become apparent in, in several months, not weeks. we just have to be patient? well, i, i think that that is a, there's a fundamental misunderstanding by president biden. and his advisors on what dr. is flattery. putin latimer potent, is driven by his own fear of being overthrown by the russian people. he is
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a collector. kratom stolen enormous amounts of money from his own people. he, the people are, as time goes on, getting more and more upset that they don't have the normal things that people should have in a middle income country. and so normally the anger would be directed towards their leader. but vladimir putin, who's been in, in place for more than 20 years, has to redirect that anger. and so he's creating foreign enemies in order to redirect that anger. and, and so all of the things, the nasty things vladimir putin does are driven by his own fear of being overthrown . and we can't control that, that's all internally driven. and so it's naive to think that anything we're going to say to him is going to make him behave differently and for different us presidents have have, well, now the 4th $33.00 previous us presidents have all come to that conclusion. and so, if he's not a man to be negotiated with, he's
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a man to be contained and constrained by with his bad intentions. so what, what would you recommend that the u. s. president, do? what should america do about what's inside the kremlin right now? it's, it's very straightforward. there's an asymmetric war going on. bladder putin is hacking political processes all over the world in germany and in the united states in the u. k. there are cyber attacks going on. there is targeted assassinations. there was a scrip all affair. there's various things happening all over europe and, and we can't reach haile 8 in a similar fashion because we don't, we're not criminals. but what we can do is that vladimir putin keeps, he's a very rich man and he keeps all of his money in the west. and there's piece of legislation that i'm responsible for all the magnets which freezes assets and bands, visas of human rights violators. and the easy way to get to vladimir putin is to go after him and to go after all of his,
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all the girth trustees and fries their assets. if we did that, if the western leaders had the guts to do that, that would immediately stop. vladimir putin from all of this malign activity. we've been asked many times bill, why does the u. s. not do that? or why does the u. k. do that, i mean, do you have an idea of what's prevented what is preventing the west from doing exactly what you have recommended? well, i think it, it requires a strong constitution. it will have a, there'll be a furious reaction. but, but i think so far, you know, we've been living in a world where the cold war ended 20 years ago and everybody's kind of relax and nobody wants to have trouble. but i'm recruiting and the easier thing to do is to try to sweep it under the carpet, try to appease him. but we all know that if he doesn't get you anywhere, it certainly doesn't get you anywhere with a dictator. like latimer, we know that the president,
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the u. s. president. he attached this summit to his european tour. he was here attempting to get the u. k. and the european union to stand with him when it comes to russia and china. do you think the united states can rely on europe when it comes to keeping that, that solidarity against russia? unfortunately, not for a very bad structural reason, which is that for all foreign policy decisions in europe, it requires the unanimous consent of 20 of all 27 member states in vladimir putin has been able to co opt certain countries like he's got a pal, victor, or bond who runs hungry and he can always rely on oregon to veto european decisions . that will be tough on russia. and there are various other countries that can do the same thing. and so the united states cannot rely on europe because the united states, if, if the united states linked its decisions exclusively to europe,
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you might end up in a situation where hungry is then vetoing u. s. foreign policy. and i don't think the back that would ever be tolerated. feel broader is always good to get your insights. we appreciate your time tonight. thank you. the rules are turning to iran where some of the countries 59000000 registered voters will head to the polls on friday to choose a successor to president hassan. honie opposed suggests that turn out could be as low as 40 percent, with many people expected to boycott. the vote because of economic hardship and the lack of moderate candidates. the front runner is hardliner ibrahim raising the ultra conservative cleric, is a staunch ally and protege of the supreme leader, the ayatollah for many ibrahim race. he has what it takes to make it to the top in iran, the 60 year old received most of his education that religious seminaries supported
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ayatollah khomeini during the revolution in 1979. and has been part of the islamic republics in a circle ever since. he's got the support of the ultra conservative establishment. and most importantly, iran supreme leader. so when he entered the race to become president racy, immediately became a front runner even more so after any serious reformist and moderate competition was bought from running. and other hardliners bowed out to boost his job for the, the few relatively unknown rival. still in the running, no, they don't stand a chance against the all truck with just head of the traditional reach. they only serve as a backdrop, give rise, even one thing, almost lacking so far. democrats, the intimacy and studying again. as a result, many iranians feel they have no real choice at the ballot box. now so much again, i'm not taking part in the election said we participated for many years and it had
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no impact on our lives. and the elections on the street wasn't all the newspapers. so i have voted 3 times before, but what i wanted never came to class. so this time i'll definitely not vote public dissatisfaction and high inflation. no one's living in comfort and peace. and the government never keeps its word medical paradoxically, this increases raise his chances of winning even further because he runs most conservative voters are the ones that usually do turn up at the pulse. in the long term though, if he's elected, a lack of public support could end up undermining his standing. it's more now we want to cross over to the altar of that report or 3 and corresponded to research. robert teresa has reported frequently from iran. good evening to you, teresa, let's talk about this election. we understand the 2 candidates dropped out on the last day of campaigning in the presidential race. does that leave much choice?
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no, not at all. brenda, clear that iranian this time will have even less choice than previous elections, where at least they got to choose between hotline, more than performance candidates. this time is almost exclusively hotline that are running and the only exception is going up that had not been acknowledged processor . and the format ahead of your on the central bank, promising that he will reduce poverty by increasing economic ties with a wet. but he's not very well known in iran, and so 5 fails are exciting. iran, young, well educated voters longing for change. so that's why i've heard the report. many of them are not planning to vote at all. so that increase the rate the chance will fight as well if or if he does when, what will that mean for the 2015 nuclear deal?
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we know that western powers are still trying to limit to runs nuclear ambitions. well probably not a lot because the negotiations with the international community about a new nuclear deal or revising the old one already in the final stages and all candidates running said they'd support those negotiations. even a very crazy, although he criticized the ronnie administration in the past for not being tough enough when getting with the west. now he says that only a strong government can finalize a course in his opinion, a strong government, the government led by him. so in check some even say that iran might be delaying the finalization offered to you at the moment to make sure that a new united hotline president can then waive through and then read the benefits. and of course, he also has to see that the iranian president is not the head of state that isn't the supreme leader. and he makes the decision on all the important topics in iran.
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so iran stands on the nuclear program, or nuclear yield does not depend on fridays election. although of course, a hotline president usually strikes a different tone than the current one. so, and that then could have an effect on whether the international community itself wants to further engage in dialogue with the wrong or not. if turn out is low, as you say, will delay gdc of the vote will be questioned. and i mean, you know, you've been to run many times. do you think it will even make a difference? yeah. code because the republic does consider itself, but democrats stated to a degree and he's pardon me. and so whether or not the current president has the backing of the electorate does matter. so if you bring him race, he winced this time but has let both been and the last election where the last 2 president body that would not look good. so that's why that all calling for participation at the moment to make sure the elected president is gone and all
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avoid the questions the republic has faced a lot in the past 2 years. so that's why it probably does not qualify for the patient. for this quote, let me ask you about iran economy. you mentioned that earlier. i mean, what promises are being made during this campaign promises that that can realistically be kept. while of course, all of the candidates are trying to offer a solution for the crisis iran at the moment. because the company situation is really bad. the run is suffering from high inflation, the high price was my job losses. that has become worse since the u. s. got out of the nuclear view and of course, even also after the send them a kid. so all candidates offer solutions. the problem is just that iran and, but not believing they can really make a difference of correspondence research over with the latest on this election
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campaign in iran. teresa thank the here in germany, a symbol of a painful recent past as quickly fading from collective memory. moving further into history, the secret trials of the stars, the intelligence service, the secret police in communist, these germany are being transferred to the federal archives and the agency that preserved them for the past 3 decades. it's being dissolved the stars. he was notorious for surveillance of the east germans after communism collapse. in 1989 civil rights activists prevented the destruction of many stars. the files that gave many victims and perpetrators the chance to confront their pants. like you want to ring the bell. i love you. i didn't do much longer. zebra. i read the door of their old building and he fell in.
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they lived here when they were young. a nice that will anything but private group ended in all the place. still the informa spied on them from across the courtyard. back when this tree was much smaller. how did you see stumpy? people standing magical? i don't know. i just found out when i read about it, we would never have thought about it. but the thought of them standing there, now i'm not in the rest of the files contained hundreds of pages intercepted letters and informers reports including viva and authors. apartment layout, masturbation recorded april 30th, 970, of going on and on in the kitchen and the window was humphrey took off roughly 50 minutes later the light went out and they left the apartment alone. she headed on
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foot in the direction of the sum of a st, subway game and had in my someone looked into my life and i had no idea what they described me as a person from that perspective which wasn't a very friendly one line. at least the mission was on the last stop. it said that i live with ships in my experience and you get through life just as well or even better and come when you adjust to a situation with natalie gave him leave the cultural. but why with the 2 women spied on and then they came from the provinces to east berlin and found good jobs here working for the east german state newspaper, northeast georgia, and new germany. they made a fate for move. we tried to leave the country from 976 onwards circuit, awful and intimate ever applied again and again to leave. always giving the same
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reason is lifeline. dec. i do not believe that trustworthiness of discovery. i have seen 1st hand how little human rights are respected in east germany. after these days, they tell people born after the war came down, having risked life and limb to leave east germany. old. i didn't want someone else to decide where i lived. you know me, i had a certain point, so i had enough and then i thought, well, no, i want out. i want freedom on don't don't need loss. which meant if i had to that desire, they almost ended up in prison. well, i'm joined now by dagma published it. she's the head of communication and research at the does the records agency here in berlin? it's good to have you on the program. you know, as we just saw in that report, they are these files. they're connected to millions of people. many of them are
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still alive. is it too early to place these files into the national archives? it would placed them in the national archive on this very historic day. and we do this because we want these files to have a future. future generations meant to read these files very much. and it was taken care that the access to these files for people that have still a life and want to clarify their fate in the communist dictatorship. that the access will not change at all. but that we have a roof over our head where we are part of the national memory, the national archives, and that we can make sure that these records can be read and understood by generations to come. it has been several decades now. it's been over 30 years since the fall of the wall. how high is the interest in these files and in the stars the and what does he did? i mean, are people still interested in learn about that? yes, i mean, these records are so to speak,
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a legacy of the peaceful lucian of one of the time and the wall fell. it was courageous. citizens who understood that if you keep the documentation of the secret police work, you can prove the human rights violations. and in the beginning, there were thousands and tens of thousands in the 1st year. they wanted access to their files, but even now, 30 years later, every month we have around $3000.00 people petitioning access to these files because it's a very personal thing to clarify. your faith to look how the state interfered, manipulate your life, and how to regain control or that stolen piece of life. and many, still the time to, to wrap the head around this and, and address this. so even though in the beginning there were a lot more and people are slowly fading away that have experienced germany in the fifties and sixties. many are still around and on top. many of the next generations want to understand how their grandparents and parents lived in the communist dictatorship and we see an increase in future generations or next generations accessing the file. you know, maybe for our viewers around the world,
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you may not be familiar with what this does. you did, i mean, people who were able to look at their files. many times the things that they discovered were destructive, were traumatic for them in. and they're still dealing with it today. i mean, talk to me a little bit about the importance. mean these files have dynamite in them. for many people didn't absolutely, the communist dictatorship wanted to make sure that any dissenting voice, criticism, people that did not like only one party rule that they will kept quiet. and the best way to do that was to recruit your friend, your neighbor, you, family member. even sometimes on your colleagues at work and spy on you and deliver information about you. because in the, in the personal oil sit, friendship situation, you would confide and say things that you wouldn't publicly say. so it was very perfidious to use your friend as a spy on you. and so these, these documents contain all this poison this into personal relationship. so you have to be ready to understand that may be your best friend delivered information
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to the starting. the secret police and betrayed your trust, but you can also understand that other people never did. so they refused, and they were very courageous. so it is a very personal clarification of faith to understand what a state a one party rules states did on the individual level to all the citizens that they were distrustful off. yeah, and today's geopolitical situation. it's important to learn the lessons from what happened in east germany. you're exactly right that mark over that with the darcy records agency here in berlin. we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. you are very welcome. thank you to of the day is always done, the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter, redirect w news. you can follow the bridge, got tv, and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see the news
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we ask bite and wounds russia and china, but his europe on board the news. well, thanks very much indeed for joining us on the show where my guest here in the studio leanna fakes a russia expert from the curb. a foundation who says the biden booting summit is not only about confrontation, and it is also an opportunity for most stability between washington and moscow. also witnesses, matthew coverage. nick chief, you're of course for politico. his opinion. if you fails to achieve a common approach to russia and china with the u. s, the west is duped, founder warm, welcome to to. so g found some from d. w is a desk who argues that the us, china and russia have more in common with each other,
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and europe should take sides. interesting. come until 3. thanks very much. thank you very much to for being here. and i'm going to begin with you matthew. it's been a very intense week of diplomacy for joe biden in europe. we end up as a place now that we were before all the talking began. i think so. i think he made clear that the united states remains very dedicated to europe and wants to keep the alliance intact and is hoping that the europeans will join him in confronting both russia and china in the years ahead. and there seems to be at least an openness to these ideas in terms of the atmosphere with russia. i think he also succeeded in calming the waters a bit. i don't think the 2 of them, not buddies. they're not going to be best buddies. they didn't look into one another's eyes and actually their souls. they shook hands and had a fairly cordial but frank meeting i would say for smiled. and it's not
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that easy yet, leon. and you talked about it being the, the meeting and prospect full. and you said it should move, it should be about cooperation, not just confrontation. now everybody is talking about the us and russia entering what is called strategic stability dialogue. i gather this is very important for the inside is i think it's very important that you explained it for us because he's right at the middle of what we're doing here. what we're talking about. yeah, that's exactly why the summit was a success because the us and russia decided to focus on those areas where they're most dangerous and most whisks and the area of weapons and limiting nuclear weapons . the last week the new start 20 was just prolonged last minute when biden came into office. that's on the agenda, and that is meant by strategic stability, limiting nuclear weapons addressing new threats like fi. but what's a new weapon systems that are developed right now?
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this is one of the most dangerous areas in the us, russia relationship for all of us. and that is why it is so important that there was agreement, they repeated the wagon garbage, a statement in nuclear war should not be fought and cannot be one. that's a very important sign for both sides. it's not the most do see almost like the topic, but it is an incredibly important topic for the security of basically everyone on the thought. and so you just coming back to the mood, president biden is sometimes seen as a bit of a sort of a soft spoken diplomat, but he can, you know, he can be more confrontational. how do you see him? i see biden as a very in experience, politician. he has decades of experience as politician 1st as president, then as 5 as well as in local politics. and he's very careful and calculated and cautious everything he stays largely scripted, it's edited,
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and he's a huge contrast to donald trump, his predecessor. and i think that because trump alienated a lot of the international community with his characteristics, being very outspoken, i think biden has a lot of appeal, actually as a politician in many countries outside of the us, for example, in asia. the way he kind of presents himself, you know, with a lot of east asian cultures, it's very, it has, it gives more respect. and i think people also need to pay attention to that too. and he's, he's very much made the power struggle between the us and china. his central, one of the central focuses of his foreign policy. what do you make is that i think that bite has been very, very clever. it was a very smart move. i think we can all agree that communicating with putin and even though you said it wasn't the most juicy, sexy kind of news. i think it is
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a huge move forward in progress to kind of buddy up with russia for the 1st time in a long time because we all know the ellison in the room is china biden is mostly concerned about china. then he is about rush at the moment, and russia is traditionally china's ally. and so to kind of now be more open to cooperation. you know, just to attend the summit. i think he has put the whole beijing kind of at edge and everyone's nervous in china. yes. you don't look as though you buy, you buy all of that, matthew? well, i think that to teen is actually under a lot of pressure when it comes to china. you know, it's worth remembering the rush is a fairly small economy. it's about as big as the economy of spain. they have a lot of nuclear weapons which makes them very dangerous. but i don't think that anybody really thought that putin would want to start a nuclear war with the west,
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or even this kind of arms race like we saw in the cold war. because that's also very expensive. although there have been some mores in the united states that the russians are developing new hypersonic weapons that would threaten the west. be that as it may, i think the, the real issue is, is china. i think the problem that putin has though with china is that he doesn't want to be too dependent on china. so the degree that to which he can calm things with the west, probably the better also. also in his view to be a little bit pessimistic. i think we are actually, we have to admit that we are already in an am slave because both russia in the united states, modernizing the nuclear us and olds and developing these weapon systems. which is just to say that the focus of the summit was so important because we are already at a stage in this area where everyone is endangered, if some weapon systems further developed. and that's also why fi, but was such an important element of the summit by then gave putting
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a list of 16 critical infrastructure areas that should not be targeted by cyber techs. again, sounds very technical, but it's incredibly important to our daily life. i guess the problem and the reason i would sleep so sadly is that the chinese are also developing these weapons and they are not party to these arm control agreements that they'd back to the court. what should be bought in into the, in the future. okay, well let's just listen to get to get a flavor of the 2 president says as a spoken in geneva, let's get listen to 1st of all, joe biden. and then we'll hear what the president putin had to say. and if in fact they violate these basic norms, we will respond cyber. he knows this, i'm away. number 2. i. i think that the last thing he wants now is
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a cold war. fill him number. yes. and that will phase of let me put in said generally we understand what our american partners are talking about some day understand what we mean when we refer to red, lisles. he by the 2 sides, have largely avoided touching on these devices issue. and you definitely liana was the red lines that emerged from the talk. so much talks about advanced won't, you know, can you pin them down elect to show list, electron meddling, huge red line for the united states. cyber attacks on critical infrastructure as i just mentioned, the grid line, obviously human wides, the also very important topic and by and brought up the, the case of not only but that it's difficult to set what blind because how can you react to someone causes this sort of my life, i mean he made it very clear statement of believe that it wouldn't be very,
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very problematic if not all the days and prism. but again, what is the we action that you can take to the action? so what they focused on where we as, where they, we could make progress and the other areas would disgust. but the focus now is uncertain. we as and to see where the positive developments take place there. and from then we can take it to other areas possibly. and suji. how important do you think it is that there is a growing trash between the political cultures of the western model as it were, and then the instant model of a liberal democracy? i think that, for example, opponents of the, your central and imperialism would say that it wouldn't be so much as a clash of political systems and cultures. because china has always been, for example, communist states since 949. and i think that all 3 of these economies, both russia, the u. s. and china have huge human rights violations. and they have very different
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political systems. but all 3 are struggling with serving social justice back home. and i think that, you know, the main issue is actually the competition between competing economies by 3 countries that are led by 3 men that have, you know, frankly, a lot of hubris are against a bit of ego. if i'm, i say, and you know, they all want to be at the top of the world, you know, all 3 of them. and we are framing this as a kind of a clash of values over the world. you know, that's kind of dividing everyone between east and west, between europe and the u. s. and asia. but in fact it's, so i think people should pay a little bit more attention that what we're actually seeing is a competition between 3 very greedy countries. all 3 of them and all 3 countries have huge human rights abuses and social injustices. well,
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many ordinary americans might be asking themselves who the big enemy is the days the president bite, and there is no doubt that the greatest long term strategic challenge to america is china. a group photo with france, the u. s. will desperately need them in the future. now the nations primary rival is china. a powerful of the nato summit sent out the message to the world that the ranks are tightly closed. before the summit, the pentagon had already ordered us troops to ship their focus to china. some of the measures will likely to vote the hire of chinese president. ping like the planned trade agreement with high watts, for example. and a new multi trillion dollar infrastructure plan is meant to compete with china's belt and road initiative that is working beyond that massive investments and
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technology are meant to encourage greater independence from chinese high tech product. biden also signed an executive order banning american from investing in 59 chinese companies, but not all of the u. s. as partners agree with its hard line approach, china is arrival and many issues. and at the same time, china is also a partner on many issues. can president biden rely on his allies in the confrontation with china, with, with just a question just a minute, but i'd like to go back to suji and just a few days ago, there was a headline in the atlantic magazine, the cold. my i joe biden worries that china might when is he really to worry? what was, what would it mean for china to win? i think what biden means, and what us seeking is there they're worried about time is global influence and
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chinese expansion. and they are worried about chinese companies, you know, overtaking american companies, which have always been very successful. the u. s. has always in their view, been at the top of world leadership. and i guess they don't want to share that position. and china is now for the 1st time since she's in pain came to power. he's kind of transform china so rapidly because china used to be such a poor, impoverish country always with human rights violations always for decades. china has always had a lot of human rights violation, but the problem is now china has actually become economically very successful in addition to math, human rights violations. and so my question i always ask is, you know, when china had the chinaman with mr. car, when there was the great famine of china, where 45000000 people died. and in the culture revolution went up to
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a 1000000 people died. you know, the u. s. no one in the international community interfered and came to, to help the people of china and china was a poor country. they didn't have any high technology. they didn't have any scientific innovation at the time. people were leaving china, you know, in, in the millions we have a huge chinese diaspora around the world. and no one asked why there's so many cheap chinese people around the world. i don't think that biden is as cynical in his approach to china. i think he really has a deep seated believe the human. why do matter that this is? and he mentioned that the press conference that this is a part of u. s. foreign policy. so i think he does not only see it in terms of great power. do you politically competition with china, but he sees it as a competition of systems, especially since of chinese system has become more and more autocratic in the last .


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