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joe, france, spain malta, he stumble in greece and u. k. all pulse in europe have chinese honestly georgia, mississippi as a sign, ologist and author lived in china for 6 years, had observed the events around the new silk road development with a critical eye. she thinks the italian government was trying to create an economic advantage for itself, but under estimated the plans political dimensions. recall management of this political project. why a member of the g 7 had great propaganda value when you're also in china itself on k propagandistic. 1014, the new silk room is quite clearly an enormous cogent and like projects in history, in china and the usa of charity. they are pursuing their own interest. i mean, if you change them in the
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it's obvious that china is trying to gain a global foothold through key infrastructure investment, such as port yes. in the north east of italy could also become an important logistical center for the chinese francesco, but easy as a businessman, who's currently planning to bring a new investor on board to build a 2nd container terminal entry as estimate of the minimum investment necessary to further expand to have a reasonable contain, it is $300.00 many on the order we are ready to discuss with other parties. if they have any interest to further develop again, isn't it that you that,
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that we have been discussing for a long time with that chinese interest? the 4th of 3 asked set to expand further. until now it has only handled $790000.00 container ships a year. by comparison, perez handles 6 times as much cargo. francesco parties. he's bird has been involved in the transportation business in europe and the rest of the world for almost 200 years. along with his son, he's the 8th generation to run the business. the company has survived 2 world wars, but today's challenges are just as great. and now you need the roots to asia to stay competitive. he says, it is not that we are giving preference to chinese business partners rather than other reality is that china has grown and, and is the trading partner and number one in the world. and if we are involved in
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logistic which is connected to international trading, you cannot simply close your eyes in front of what has developed you try to participate. so this is the simple answer. how easy and his son have invested in china themselves and make 2 thirds of their turnover with asian customers. in spite of their old european traditions, they have long become a part of the new chinese silk road. europe is not anymore. the center of the world is not no time, so we have to take a pontoon. it is where they are rise and, and where we find and specially where we find people who are willing to share the same values that are not all the make money. but we have that with some values that are important address the problem for the
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porter is that true? could be an opportunity off because china to make investments, of course, and it's really neat 7th, anytime in by the can more to be one or the invest remain the same time because we have to be very careful when we make any deal with china on the look on the call a chain up. you know, my power is vast and i can be overwhelming to committee for the past. gets out of the me i trust check is waiting for visitors from china. i believe a 2nd year for my c fuel holidays july. i'm like a bridge between 2 countries between 2 people now going to going to going to
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konami's. next terran i have $42.00 small chinese really want to come to greece because they want to learn a lot about the culture of each in greece. the mythology in history and he, he knows, you know, i got, you know, that, you know, pretty small whole. that's why they love greece so much so much to do. the 2 countries are similar. they both have a lot of history that can i need you to the roots of the eastern world or in china . the roots of the western world are increase for it is long. before the corona virus hit, it was always busy around the foot of the acropolis, chang had groups every day. the number of chinese tourists in greece had been growing rapidly, and some 800000 were expected this year. now because of the corona virus pandemic, the stream has dried up completely. tourism is an integral factor in the new chinese silk road. petros chang says, tourists from china bring money and often become long term investors
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will probably be that the sale, but you are the global going on. you know, 1st we have to wait until the corona viruses over it as i bought it, then greece, when the capital and china has capital key of the teenage and evident that are sure you cannot sign in for chinese state really has a lot of money and it wants to invest in green, a, c, d, o you trying to come to greece as a friend by the, not the way the west colonized asia or africa in the past. he said, you know, i mean, because i see the chinese approaches then we here that we invested, you know, and it's a win win situation for us both she's, i can use or do you want, i can hear me. the real estate lobby is profiting from the deal with the chinese more than most other sectors to attract foreign money. the greek government started issuing so called golden visa
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in 2013. so well, this is the apartment on the 5th floor. welcome to this lovely apartment in the heart of downtown office is surrounded by some of the best areas, in essence, if used to be with 2 bedrooms. and now we are fixing the another, a 3rd bedroom and the next truck bathrooms. this is the living room. nice and spacious, fully furnished. there are 3 bedrooms, like this would be more proud to call us for your phone me or even if it's not of your family that doesn't pay. the kitchen is fully equipped and we are going to have the kitchen here with a small island, and the very will be and makes 1st phase so they can use the way they want. here i'm going to show you the balcony. it comes with a balcony and has
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a lovely view of enjoy your 1st cup of coffee of the day. you can have barbecue here, you can eat like places, rebates, and make and get all the space and song and welcoming you. we've not the most money for greece has issued 6000 golden visas to the chinese in the last 5 years and sold a lot of property to golden laser things, the real estate in grace. the paintings came in grades, they were the 1st foreign investors that they left their money here. they paid for the property because after the creek financial crisis, after it started 2009, i can say, but the 2010 because we told no one was buying like all the properties were falling down. most of the chinese owners don't want to appear in front of the camera. some
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have come to europe for political reasons. others are cautious ports, the media. it's an open secret that money laundering and corruption are also an issue. of the e. u has sharply criticize the program. the clients that we have are usually from the rapidly merging chinese middle class. they come here because they want to secure a future. in europe, they want to give their children the opportunity to live here. they want to give themselves the upward unity to retire. here. a lawyer in athens puts us in touch with a client from shanghai who is in the middle of a legal dispute over her flat in athens. her whole family laboriously saved up for the $290000.00 euro apartment investment in greece and freedom of travel within the entire shannon area for the whole family sounds attractive even
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in times of the corona virus. then another. i like the greek, whether and last greece is a country with a long history. with this visa, i come via piece exist lifestyle. there are a lot of chinese making this investment, including in my circle of friends. golden visas remain in high demand. though the corona virus pandemic has damp and the real estate market with significantly fewer visas issue due to travel restrictions and a temporary suspension of the residents by investment programs. unlimited travel and the globalized world where you can commute between shanghai in athens, have been put on hold. but the estate agents don't think it spells the end of this lucrative market. i think that after the recovery that to expecting soon, the chinese clients are going to come here and keep buying properties like they did
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before. and as, as you said, the chinese middle class is rapidly expanding. so i don't see any reason why this may stop in and increasingly globalized world. the fish market in athens is still bucking the trend and dealing mainly and locally caught produce the most goods come to europe from asia through the suez canal. he, you citizens profit enormously from cheap chinese imports, but a sudden shortage of personal protective equipment during the corona virus pandemic
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has highlighted europe's dependence on age. and in class tonight, i thought that somebody called me and i was worse than just the world, forgot the matter. people called me almost we used to give their good quiz and exploit chinese workers. but also, i know, as we were doing that on the chinese when learning from us, from them and starting to do it, they have overtaken us in many areas of technology that up and down. and that's just how china's new silk grow got going. investments in ports, bridges, or roads all serve to bring goods to customers. the us is still the use most important trading partner. but trade with china has tripled in the last 20 years.
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in china has been investing in the board to raise since 2008 and became the majority shareholder there in 2016. it's the perfect gateway to europe. over the last few years, the chinese have turned periods into the biggest port in the mediterranean. and they're planning to make it the biggest port in europe, pledging $600000000.00 euros of additional investment in the next few years. again, me think i can make i was born and raised in prayer me for years. and i love him of amendment. i have felt connected with to see in the school since i was small before you me this place will be on now is important to medical meadows,
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not only for its charm and atmosphere. now it's designed to tow it up. but because it's a pop, open access to the c particle and the supposed to failure. and because it was managed to keep it that way remotely, tracy understands the francis khaki believes that the old port area belongs to the cities residence and has long been campaigning to get them access to it again. she's the left wing, threes of parties, maritime policy spokeswoman. that is skeptical about the chinese commitment. she believes massive investments by beijing would also have political consequences for her country. all met you. some of the constant 20 is do not handle the government position, power unacceptable. the same, make sure i think my sample when the you want to pass certain
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resolutions regarding china's expansion in the south china sea. we had a left wing of wind here that had its doubts about us and you'll be your best that us give spanish e u member greece broker, political taboo by signing with the chinese greece has also been silent about aging actions in hong kong. money, francisco, he says, makes you dependent. she's particularly worried about the use divisions over china . but the realization that europe has to speak to china with one voice is slowly gaining ground. i mean, as i said, you have not yet reached a consensus on how to deal with china, what it's added to more that china reads when making us a fee or not. and europe has no clear analysis of china is going to behave from
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western countries. and it's in particular, economic policies in europe no longer has the tunes that china has namely of days around enterprise. and china is clearly using these to be the career crisis has highlighted, europe's lack of cohesion. even italians like ricardo rookie also felt that china exploited the divisions by sending aid to italy. europe eventually came up with vestment program. but small businesses like ricardo's felt this help came to where i could say what i need me to be one. i would have really liked to have seen
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a united europe. as everyone had predicted, a strong union with funded mental coordination was caught up in a mental than i would've liked to have seen those with more opportunities to help the other a true europe. notice the nano k. but in the end, it didn't work out that way. animals, everyone close their borders and said, because you wash your own dirty laundry at home by nice parking, i'm not really gonna say that really showed us that we can't talk about a single year up. and so the more looking for the main thing was gonna push me a lot to deal with. anyone who comes to tour yes, can still experienced the charm of the old hapsburg monarchy. 100 years ago. the port city was a trading hub to eastern europe and the iron curtain interrupted the links for decades. now the city wants to return to its former glory and is hoping the
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chinese will help it when the silk road agreement was signed. in march 2019 tree asked was at the center of attention northern italy was slated to become a major transshipment center for chinese export. general augustine, who is head of the port authority. thanks china's interest in tree. yes. is proof of its growing significance. ah me see, but based on europe is growing a lot old base nations are very easily accessible by, by the part of the as their saw. you know, i think it is very simple. if you look at a map, you see that if you pass through 3 s the and you go to hungary to germany, to say you arrive foster van busing from the northern arrange board.
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the city is investing even more in its rail network than in the port itself built over 100 years ago. it's direct links to eastern europe are still there. they just have to be upgraded but is also at pains to emphasize that although it welcomes investments from china, it has no intention of selling off the port lock stock and barrel. what was free to go 2 years ago, only a problem, a matter of transport became a geopolitical issue. now, if you said the port authority, you say ok, this part of a territory is no more my territory. and this was done in increasing. this is not what is happening here. below here is the port authority of president is italian. i am directly governed by my minister. so you know, we don't sell and we will not be strategic part of report. the port city on the
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atria see has suddenly found itself in the midst of a global trade war. every investment, the chinese make in europe, angers the u. s. and exacerbates the standoff between the u. s. and china. francesco perisi has decided on a partner to help 3 s to expand not china, but a european investor. the port of hamburg, he stresses that this is a purely economic calculation. but he doesn't deny that political factors also played a role. charisse, he remembers the cold war and is worried about any new confrontation. this consolidation of the situation ended. it was of another cold war and method of concern for me personally. and for my business in general, for me in general, it also is as a, as a citizen of the european union,
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we can see that international trade for sure. bridge. we can see that to be helpful to keep in mind paid peace. the debate about the role europe will play in the trade war between the u. s. and china is nothing new and is not limited to the economy. your federal, catchy, i hope to some european leadership. because if not, europe risks becoming will fail for china. and he was saying that instead of laura can be the key player in the global arena. i hope that's what europe decides to do like when you spoke of the trigger. the politicians in rome are also gradually turning against china. human rights violations haven't been a reason to cut down on business so far. but worldwide criticism is growing.
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these 3 members of parliament are part of a cross party alliance on china. they want to see a tougher stance towards beijing when you make and he cannot make agreement with the country that doesn't respect the human rights. you are dealing with human rights because it means that you don't care much, we need euro pm, me to give and not a single concrete need. so europe is already too small to have a real relationship with china all together. but one single county can't have a strong relationship with china. it's sure. so if you go in that interaction alone, italy, it's sure that you will lose that relationship. so i believe that is the most
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important mistake. above and beyond party politics be the left wing, centrist, or conservative. what unites these politicians is the worry that europe is not speaking to china with one voice because china is focusing on us. so we want to focus on china because china has a very strong agenda with using any kind of energy and sign their g to expand its influence over older countries of the western world. and therefore, we must have an agenda to what is the kind of investment that we can have all the kind of trade, authentic operation because we the country, which is the same way but events. amy, so it's a corporation even now when we're talking, china is totally obscure and is the country of censorship, about the real origin,
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nature and consequences of it. and europe is now coming to realize that china is no longer a purely economic power, but also a political one. meanwhile, the dock workers union in paris has come to terms with its new chinese bosses and is trying to negotiate workers' rights as best it can. it can be a video with, with other staff over the last 10 years. the, our experience with the chinese has been that they always negotiate as hard as they can and demand as much freedom possible. but if you set your limit up and if they come up against a strong structure, like i said on a trade union, what then they respect. so they accept our limits of us in the for to race will remain under chinese control until 2052. when the lease, although it could of course,
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be extended any the bought up. i think china already has enormous influence. and i don't think it needs any more than just like a citizen that i would like to return to return to greece again after the trans 3rd party youth has expired. the 2019 agreement between italy and china has caused a lot of fuss. but now there are other investors who are pushing ahead with the development of the port of tree. yes. many entrepreneurs, however, have other worries. right now, we will have to see what the call me back will be on the train because this is something no one has a clue about so for now, italy is still part of the silk road. even though no chinese money has flowed into tree. yes. so far, i always have to meet you to become part of the way she's the best and the
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initiative, but it is the opposite. they accept our b of development as some of our places on the maritime. see quote that they needed as an idea of development. not only money, and the chinese arrived. we have funds and ideas. we have our ideas, we know what that can be. meanwhile, we can the garage, the man who engineered the deal in the 1st place, believes that the fear of china is totally exaggerated and could have disastrous consequences or italy. my forecasts because of your politics, that misunderstanding that i think a bit likely scenario that i have now is that italy as flows down on big corporation with asia flows down on the corporation with the china slows down on the development of technology lows down on the development of infrastructure for some modal way, ways which are all the things that we need that we do not to do by ourselves. and
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so italy will fall back into the middle a chain from just start the program. marcelina has plan pre programmed kasteel just political economic project. over sheeting, ping is ready thinking about 2049 and china is doing exactly what they wanted to be in a lot of pain. now they have such a moment. you can make power in the world, too natural for them to want to have a voice in the world. they are clearly saying what we want to influence the world. so what i can do for any mondo ah, was the news.
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