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[000:00:00;00] ah ah, this is dw news coming to you live from berlin. more evidence of the devastation left behind by russian troops after their withdrawal from northern ukraine. we visit the small town, a beauty which saw intense fighting between brushing and ukrainian post. a ball and hospital in my real full ukraine, all the world health day and appeal from the united nations to stop the tax on health facilities. as native foreign ministers gather for a 2nd day in brussels,
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ukraine's foreign minister is also attending. he's very clear about what he expects from the law. agenda is very simple. it has only 3 items on it. it's weapons, weapons, and weapons. ah, hello, i'm terry martin. thanks for joining us. world leaders have condemned the growing evidence of war. crimes committed by russian forces in ukraine. authorities are still trying to identify hundreds of victims of atrocities in the town of boucher outside the capital kia as russian forces withdrawal from the north of the country . locals are coming out of hiding and taking stock after nearly a month under russian occupation. dw. nick conley visited the small town of bitches, which was in the middle of intense fighting between russian and ukrainian forces. from late february, he spoke to resident,
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struggling to make sense of what happened to them. this is we give a small town. it's just emerging from a month and a russian occupation month in which it was on the front lines she, russian and ukrainian forces. toys was sometimes just the woods, people were children. it's as much as many residents of this ukrainian town could think of. a plea to the russian troops to leave them and their families alone, as they hid in their homes, will decide you live with him. new people in this village spent 27 days without water on the 27th days without bread. he grew up. when you had a demon his wife held out for 3 weeks until the shelling became too much to bear. and they were finally able to leave for a neighbouring village of them up when they got back of the premium military retake in the town. the home would be ransacked by retreating russian troops. a, they've got it. everything carried everything out. all that's laughter,
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the walls and the sofa soccer. g, unless you, they've taken all the electronics. i don't even know where they put it all over the months they were here, the russians really changed for the worse coming in. i'm just disgusted at the thought that they were moving around and eating in my house. at least he didn't sleep here with the food doesn't look, look, look to put the witness column. they just destroy things for the sake of it, the ceiling, leaving it there. but the impact on this community goes far beyond looted homes. locals, phyllis, they were kidnapped and detained in sellers for days on end. accused by the russians of helping the ukrainian military. several residents is still missing. fed killed, a priest arrived from a neighboring village with supplies for those who have lost almost everything. yeah . but it's not food or money that the locals are asking for us. who am i and what
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was able to put the people here need tranquilizers with many of them have lost everything with me that they spent a lifetime saving for bothers with this. with their houses sought their cars. it's all gone into separate from what you both shows is the damp seller when she her husband and her neighbors spent some of the coldest nights the year. no tools done yet. and i agree with linda. we weren't just hearing the shelling, we could feel it. everything was shaking. really. all we could do is pray that it wouldn't hit us. we just kept praying. supplies like these kept above and has been going during the weeks. andrew occupation or the shop stayed shut. and leaving home would have meant running a gauntlet, or was it that he has got us by the time he'd be knocking down these steps a few times you lose the well to do anything else. they both tells us she and every one she knows is exhausted. her what you can always waiting for something they can't quite define unable to ever let go much them. he said we didn't use to
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understand what it was that people and on boss have been going through all these years stuck in their salary. the last month has taught us what war is his name, sister becky. for now the russian army had been pushed back more than a 100 kilometers. but the fear they might return, a sudden, as they appeared, was never far away. a corresponding economy of fall, that report joined just now from the craning capital chip. nick, you've now been to several town surrounding here in the wake of the russian withdrawl there. you've interviewed numerous eye witnesses. what have you pieced together about how russian forces are fighting this war? i think the overall, she impression is one of chaos. so in that town where we just were that, we seen the report book give locals told us that basically you had forces from all kinds of different regiments who were basically on the retreat, had sustained large losses in their 1st days. and ukraine and bessy didn't know each other, so they had
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a russian soldiers that had no experience of interacting. now suddenly grouped together again, having been surprised by that ukraine resistance, unable to make decisions, unable to really work out who is in charge, often under supplied, in terms of having to either ask the locals for food or just to take it, breaking his shops that seems to be a picture we're seeing across the country and not only shops, bottles, and private homes, we've seen images now from belarus, which is the can supply hub for lots of these. russian forces that were northern ukraine, of russian soldiers in uniformed, going to post offices in dollars, sending home huge packages and of pretty obviously eluted stuff from ukraine of car batteries, electronics, even washing machines. and that really seems to be a pretty widespread picture in no sense that there's a lot of a punishment from the kind of superiors the highs up in the russian army. if their subordinates do that. we did hear from locals though, that it was a mixed picture. they had had some positive interaction. some russian soldiers who
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had admitted them that they didn't want to be in ukraine, that they had believe their superiors who told them that they were just going on exercise to the ukrainian border. and that some had even apologized to them for the behavior of their fellow soldiers. and in boots of the place of those mass killings that we've seen in recent days. one local told us that he had the impression that they were just scared they had not really are counted on meeting so much resistance from the ukrainian army. and they basically saw any civilian out in the streets trying to get some food as a potential threat. as someone who might attack them, and so he said that the locals, that they really felt every time they left their homes, that they were being watched through the sites of a russian gun. that every time they left the houses, they were likely to be shot. and it seemed like most the people who lost their lives. boucher were indeed short randomly on the streets by soldiers. offline tanks were the armored vehicles and just taking pot shots at people with him in a very little fear of any kind of accountability. nick russian forces have now
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pulled back from those areas around key of an increasing pressure on the dumbass region in the east ukrainian government is urging civilians to leave the east. the country are people heating that call destiny? ah, lots of trains heading west still, especially taking people who have got out of mar pulled by by road, who then get to cities like the patricia in the southeast and then make their journey west from there by train. but it doesn't seem like it is a mass exodus for now. and if the experience thus, you might say to go by people on the whole tend to heat those kind of warnings only when it's too late. only when they can hear the fighting. the shelling close to them and just in the weeks and months going into this war. and there were all those warnings coming out of washington at western capitalist from western natalia. so authorities, and time and time again. we went to places that were very vulnerable, that were on the border with russia, with very little in the way of fortifications. and you'd ask people, are you worried, what is your contingency plan? and people would say, this is old bluff. this is just
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a political game by the kremlin to put pressure on ukraine. a full scale war is unimaginable. the russians wouldn't take those risks. and as such, people just discounted, it would tell you they were actually more concerned about their job with the fact that their local shop was going to close down. so i think unfortunately lots people, even though we're down 2nd month, was, aren't really able to imagine the war arriving on that doorstep. and it's too late . nick, thank you very much. our correspondent, nick connelly. they're in kia today. it is world health day and the world health organization says there have never been so many attacks on hospitals across the globe. this year alone has seen more than 130 health facilities targeted the majority of them by russian forces in ukraine. ah, the moment a bomb exploded in the city of mary awful and this
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is what was hit the maternity and children's hospital since the start of russia's invasion, more than 90 health facilities, including hospitals like this one in the city of it's him, have been attacked according to the world health organization, brutal bullock, and for some more than once, at the start of the war, the main hospital in the town of bo, nova, was hit. days later, it was attacked again. and then again, while dozens of civilians were hiding inside, trying to escape the shelling among them was andry key. and he in of head of the hospitals,
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trauma center who was bare with his wife and children with the experience still haunts him. we know if a viewer was shelling lasted about 20 to 25 minutes and with me you was clear and the kids just moved. it is my children and i didn't make it to the basement. we spent all this time in the corridor of the hospital with her own. we experienced all the shelling 1st hand or she given us. pavlo cofton yoke is ukraine's for my deputy health minister. he now runs an organization that's trying to document each and every hospital attack. well, color main and primary goal is to help our country and help international community to hold accountable those people who would do those,
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the water cranks. and this is what really makes our team really even what debated but they feel that they are doing something but important for this more. which asked continues to, to the attacks, hopes of prosecutions seem a long way off. the spring in real been was here, she's an emergency communications coordinator with doctors without borders and she joined me from libby in western ukraine. thanks for being with us. a real your organization has documented attacks on numerous hospitals and helps facilities in ukraine is for a pattern or hospitals being deliberately targeted. would you say it's very hard to know. the experience that our team had on monday afternoon at about 330 local time in a residential area of nikolai,
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that high concentration of hospitals serving civilians is that it was a cluster bomb. they were there meeting some health authority in the college hospital, just walking in when it started as a garage that continued for roughly 10 minutes. and so are the hospitals targeted or what would be the reason to, to be bombing a residential neighborhood that had a high concentration of hospitals. we would have to leave to others to verify that per se, i know that the world health organization has been doing this horrific tale of the number of health facilities that have been targeted, including ambulances, by the way. and so for us, it's just always the same concern and outrage that we express that some medical facilities in times of war should be protected. they should be a place of sanctuary where people can go and feel safe and that the health workers, the caretakers and the patients of course, can feel like this is going to be
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a protected space amid everything else that's going on. you know, doctors left borders provides emergency medical aid. what's the situation for your colleagues trying to provide that aid in ukraine? it's an extremely challenging environment because there are many areas that do need humanitarian assistance. or the people would like to have the opportunity to flee, and it's just not possible. so in circled areas of mary, a pool, certainly, but there are others. one of the challenges is that even for aid providers, whether it be the un, the international committee of the red cross or independent n g o, like doctors without borders or mid sense, awful chair is that some of the roads are mind. so even if you think ok, we're going to try and reach this area. it could be extremely perilous to bring the cargo in the medical supplies in that the hospitals inside those zones are crying for, for assistance,
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for some support. the other issue is just obstructions. there are checkpoints, there are officials saying, no, you can't go here, it's not safe. and so there are a number of obstacles to actually being able to be effectively in the places where people need us most talking about getting into those difficult areas. do you have, does your organization have access, operate to those contested regions in the east of ukraine? don't ask and hands we do not. and that's one of the challenging things we keep trying to be able to offer assistance based on independent assessments in an ability to deliver it directly ourselves. but what we are doing right now, and there's a tremendous amount of pressure since the ukranian government advised people yesterday to evacuate immediately, a number of those areas that can do hon. even car keys is that we are receiving a lot of calls for our medical referral, trained to come and pick up patients from hospitals that are overburdened in the
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east and take those patients transport them or transfer them to hospitals that are better able to provide them a safe place to be able to be treated and recover. so that to a train activity, the medical referral train is, is now under a lot of pressure with many, many requests and far too many for us to be able to safely transport, which is why we're developing a larger train that's kidded up with more equipment more like an intensive care unit to be able to, to assist greater numbers of people and make such a difference for the working flow of the hospital workload in the east of real. thank you very much for speaking with us. that was up your been was from doctors without borders. speaking to us from the beach in western ukraine. nato ministers are meeting in brussels today to it's considered the western alliance is response to the war in ukraine amid worries that the conflict could drag on for months,
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if not years. ukrainian foreign minister demitra clyburn is attending that meeting . just a short while ago. he and nato chief young stoughton back address reporters. it is an urgent need her to further support ukraine and a half hour meeting later on with the nato foreign ministers. i'm certain that we will address the need for more air defense system. so and to thank weapons cert lighter, but those are heavier or weapons and many different types of support to, to ukraine. my agenda is very simple. it has only 3 items on it, it's weapons, weapons, and weapons. we are confident that the best way to help ukraine now is to provide it was all necessary to contain put in and to defeat russian army in ukraine. our correspond at jack perez is covering that nato meeting in brussels. jack ukraine once weapons installed in bag,
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the nato chief says he expects made a will deliberate so on the 2 sides on the same page. well, kind of to be honest, terry, the, it looks like the meter caliber is going to do a pretty impassioned plea to the nato foreign ministers through these meetings. he said some really interesting things. in this press conference. he pointed the finger directly at berlin for not providing as many weapons as they wanted. he said berlin has time. he doesn't saying that the bureaucracy in berlin to get weapons over the line and to be sending them to ukraine, is taking too long. he said that the decision by germany to export weapons was a revolutionary step called on germany, specifically to do more. he also talked about the difference between defensive and offensive weapons, because that some of the discussion around some of the nato member states and also specifically in germany. and caliber had to say that all weapons right now are
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defensive because they have been invaded by russia and there's no longer an offensive weapon of for them. they see offensive weapons simply as weapons that they need to use to, to, to push that invasion night. he also talked specifically about the sort of some of the thinking around this because nato members, a slightly concerned about sending weapons to ukraine for fear of being dragged into the war in a more broader sense. but what could labor had says give there's a simple deal from the ukrainian side. give us weapons, he said, we sacrificed our lives and we prevent the full light from this war going out into other european countries. so it's a pretty specific set of demands. he is here in brussels to try and get weapons from the nato allies. nato secretary general says, we should be prepared for the long haul in ukraine. is that not an admission jack that nato's hands are effectively tied in this conflict? well, it's an interesting one, isn't it, terry?
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i mean there's, there's this preparation now i think, and against oldenburg, has been talking over the last few weeks about this, this idea of the new normal, the streets that they've stationed in east and nato member stays that they're saying, you know, need to, you know, a probably likely going to be a more permanent position. now, if, if this war continues on and rumbles on, the question is, how does the nato thinking shift on this? and i think i see what an elaine of babel, the german foreign minister said in response to what q label was saying regarding german, she was talking about the sort of feelings that europe has and, and this a sense of what's going on and what they need to try and do and, and i think they're awesome shifts and some discussions happening within the german government. although she was relatively vague and her response to what to what cable was saying was that with a jack, there's mounting evidence of war crimes being committed by russian forces in ukraine. is this creating a greater sense of urgency among nato and you leaders there in brussels?
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i think definitely what we've seen over the last 7 days or so. there's been some pretty, pretty big statements coming out of the leaders. we also know that the ambassadors of the european union is sitting back down today to try and see if they can agree on this 5th round of you sanctions, including an all i've been on imports of russian coal. we'll have to wait and see how, how that goes there are seems, there is some strolling as well. but i think there is some impotence impetus after those atrocities that we saw in future. jack, thank you very much. our correspond jack park there in brussels, in poland. almost 30000 volunteers have joined the territorial defense forces. that's a group similar to the us national guard. we meet one of the volunteers who wants to be prepared just in case he says, the war has made him rethink things even if poland is a member of nato. i. this is distance the room, british soldiers from a nato battle group training polish volunteers,
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and be sweet as following up on an working urban warfare tactics in case an emergency requires the volunteers to defend their country. victor is one of the volunteers. it's his 1st day of training. the i t entrepreneur has never held a weapon, but the war in ukraine right next door drove him to act miracle. both of the vin on that list. it's especially the civilian deaths that you notice people. and that's what motivated a lot of people here to get involved, and there's not much the participants have normal jobs, but they want to be part of a volunteer force to defend polish territory. many have signed up since russia invaded ukraine, like ivona, a school teacher. i took the interest glenna as ordered. i am to learn about weapons and self defense. all that on there to live is
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a ranger. you never know what will happen. that's why we are getting ready for war with the volunteer army dates back 5 years. it reports to the polish defense minister as a new member state payden's can count on a basic level of security. but ever since russia annexed crimea, more and more people worry that poland could also be the target of russian aggression. those worries have drastically increased since the war in ukraine started. they're the most of the best shot that us. it's better to train now and get some notion of what it is than to join the army when there's an urgent threat living and have no idea what to do with new research as a whole. first to health checkup then a 16 day training course. after that, the volunteers will meet one weekend a month for more training. it's not about the money. they earn just over $100.00 euros a month. i will transfer over if it's okay. we also get critical equipment here on
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that is another motivation of talked about it. there are now nearly $30000.00 volunteers signed up to fight the poland. if an attack comes russian novelist, ludmilla lit sky, is an outspoken critic of kremlin policy. she criticized the annexation of crimea in 2014 and is among the cultural figures in russia to oppose the war in ukraine. but her stance has come at a price. let me let lead sky doesn't know if she'll ever return to moscow. the russian writer left her home in mid march a month after the war started. she was persuaded to leave at the age of 79 by her son. but still, i didn't feel threatened and i didn't understand my son's decision. but i trusted his judgment because i think he can assess something better than i can. and i was jimmy,
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a lead sky. i was one of the 1st in russia to speak out publicly against the war in ukraine. the writer has never held off criticizing russia's leaders. she speaks out fearlessly and sees herself in good company, grew my knuckle in my wide circle of acquaintances, and i'm not just talking about friends, but every one i know, i haven't met a single person who supports putins was not one of our lead sky is not just an important voice in russia. the trained geneticist from a jewish family has had her books translated into 30 languages, novels, and stories about the tragedies of the 20th century and everyday life in posts at russia, in her later collection. and lisa, by her death, the heroines are women coping with everyday life receivable system. and so she soon russia is a country where women have the upper hand than everyone except for in government.
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i mean, if this war can be, it will be by women who if it's not stop, it means that in power, don't care at all what women think or want to blue. it's the magenta and the bullet leach guy. i feel sure the wall will have terrible consequences. relations between russia and ukraine, she believes have been poisoned for generations. nevertheless, she's against censuring russian. art is to fail to distance himself from putin. yes, it does for hulu. and i believe every artist, like every other person, has the right to his or her own views, including in politics as an artist should be measured solely by their work. if they weren't is worthy of being presented to the world, let it be done, though not then not a person's political view, his personal business, the religion, and despite her own views, ludmilla sky,
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i have mixed feelings about becoming an anti put in spite person in exile writers should observe, she says, and a bubble she wants to continue writing and hope the war will end soon. blue. you're watching dw news up next focus on europe, palos, russian monks in germany, and helping ukrainians refugee. i'm terry martin. thank you. ah,
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with who i am meeting music while the warm redesigned back the ukrainian string ensemble. so the way their country shortly after going on tour and now the musicians are playing benefit concerts all over europe until the war ends. focus on europe.
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on dw, enter the conflicts own with sarah kelly. the world has been confronted with horrific images of atrocity against civilians allegedly committed by russian forces in ukraine. we can find a car and then paul, the genocide. how should western allies respond? my guess i'm complex in foreign minister gabriella land baggage. he joined the on the line with 60 minutes d. w. o. devastated with to how we can with cars carry effects of climate change. i mean, felt worldwide before a station in the rain forest continued, carbon dioxide emissions have risen again. young people all over the world are
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committed to climate protection. what impact will because change doesn't happen on its own. make up your own mind. d. w. lead for mines ah, ah, hello and welcome to focus on europe embry begin with the war that continues to ravage large parts of ukraine in recent days violence there has reached a new and even more shocking level in the small town of boucher close to the capital kiff russian troops appeared to have brutally massacred innocent civilians


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