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is it keep this week to show germany solidarity with ukraine until ukraine's president zalinski told him not to come? apparently, stein meyers passed his intensive ties with russia, made him a persona non grata in keith. ukraine reportedly wants the german chancellor, olaf shoulds to visit instead. after all, the chancellor, not the president has sway over cindy weapons to help ukraine fight against the russians. but the snub has reportedly robbed chancellor sholtes the wrong way. now what? i'm broke off in berlin. this is the day ah, my colleague and friend polish president and j duda recently suggested that the 2 of us travel to cuba to send a strong signal of joint european solidarity with ukraine while
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i was ready to do that. that was not wanted by keith. ah, also coming up you as president biden has accused russian, president putin, of committing genocide in you crate. and the kremlin has now responded could you any excuse you mean, lee categorically disagree, and consider this kind of effort to distort the situation unacceptable. good. jim lulu marizza, as we said, the full name of this is hardly acceptable from a president of the united states, a country that has committed well known crimes in recent times, vienna kitchen you maury, in id, she stood ah, but to our viewers watching on p b s in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the
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day with a german president who is not welcome. in keith yesterday, german president frank volter stein meyer was getting ready to depart for ukraine together with the presidents of estonia, lafayette lithuania, and poland. a visit to show solidarity with ukraine as it braces for a new onslaught by russian forces. but ukrainian president zalinski reportedly sent word to the german president not to come. apparently due to stein myers passed as german foreign minister in which he championed closer ties with russia. now it's important to note that just last week, stein meyer admitted that he had misjudged vladimir putin. that his stance on russia had been misguided. apparently that admission was not enough to spare stein meyer. what was obviously a stinging snub. take alice, my colleague and find bonuses not was it. and on the judah, my colleague and friend polish president and j. duda recently suggested that the 2
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of us, together with the presidents of estonia, latvia and lithuania, travel to cuba, to send a strong signal of joint european solidarity with ukraine line. then not so that i was ready to do that about it. but apparently that was not wanted by t of on the 10th, and i have to acknowledge that others in here, mr. goods. i some history in context to help understand why stein meyer was told not to come to keep. before he became german, president stein meyer served 2 terms as german foreign minister under former chancellor, under the miracle. during that time, he pursued closer relations with russia, both political and economic, and he shaped the german response to russia's illegal annexation of crimea back in 2014. but it's not only germany's recent past that is not city well with ukraine as it fights back a russian invasion. the issue of whether to send heavy weapons to ukraine has been
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the subject of heated debate in germany at the beginning of the war. the government here in berlin remained reluctant to get involved, but opinions both among politicians and the public have changed dramatically in the past few weeks. in january, russian troops were preparing for war, while ukraine begged allies to send weapons. but germany said it history meant it could off a helmet's not arms and a soldier. check immediately to that and would never 5000 pound the same crane as a clear signal that we are on your side cited. it was supposed to be a gesture of good will, but it went down like a bad joke. then vladimir putin gave the order to the attack as tens of thousands protested in berlin. the german chancellor left it the weapons ban, citing anew reality and the guest,
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and that she didn't. we decided yesterday that germany will supply ukraine with weapons to defend themselves. the u. turn saw germany sent thousands of anti tank and missile defense weapons. but as the war groaned on, the calls for germany to send more dead. so to ukraine's president implored the german parliament be during my de la support, assuming keep the peace in support ever ukrainian. stop the war, help us. stop it, the woman she now ye, zebulon it. the horrors of butcher were not stopped, nor rama set to cushions and alleged torture. evidence of potential russian war crimes undergoing pressure. berlin is now exploring ways to get old tanks like these on to ukrainian battle fields. german arms crypt ryan, mattel says the 1st batch could be delivered within weeks for
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a delegation of senior politicians visiting ukraine. they can't come soon enough that we need to clarify which weapons the ukranian army can use. is this important so that they don't get equipment which requires a lot of training. and we have to clarify this quickly because the weapons have to come now evolve. mison gets here from helmet to tanks. it's been a $180.00 and defense policy for germany. for ukraine, it may come to late. my 1st guess tonight is thomas silver horn. he's a member of the german parliament for the conservative c s u party, and he sits spokesperson for transit atlantic relations among his fellow war makers . mister super horn is also considered an expert on military and security policy. mr. aboard it's good to have you back on the program before we start tonight, i'd like for you to listen to the response that was offered today from the german chancellor and the german foreign minister regarding the snub against the german
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president. take a listen. says him, put it somewhat annoying to put it politely for me, it's clear, frank voter stein meyer expressed his views precisely including after his re election as president. he has condemned russia's aggression against ukraine. credit for what type of on his president, the german president said he regrets that he could not tell to kid. i regret it till we spoke about the trip and i thought it was a good idea what it is if is in fact i to mister seaborne. that's what the government is saying. what do you and your fellow conservatives in the opposition? what did you make of this? we know that the ukranian president, the ukranian people expected more from germany, that the you bring in people and president may know that generally stance on the side of ukraine. and that there is a growing willingness in german society and politics to do even more to some or ukraine. last week,
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mr. stein meyer said that his decisions regarding russia during his time as german foreign minister, had been wrong. that he said he had misjudged vladimir putin. that is, sounds like a may a copa coming from mr. stein meyer. what does that mean though today for german foreign policy? but i think sure that the common from the training president was indeed a reference to the power of our federal president. he was the right hand of former german johnson. and then he was a foreign minister. and in this time, he played a major role in leading germany into energy dependency from rush and get back. he already admitted, as you mentioned, that he took warning from both ukraine and poland and not be enough. and now we have to be aware of this in perfect,
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that's germany's reputation is still at risk not only because of this path, but also with reference to the current situation. and that's why we have to commit ourselves very clearly. we have to take whatever it needs to support ukraine and we have to do whatever it takes to russia. but let me just continue a little bit though with the german president mr. stein buyer and he was foreign minister under former transfer. uncle americal medical was a conservative such as yourself, shouldn't there be some apologies coming from miracle or from those conservatives who supported this pro russia stance for the last 16 years? many, many stakeholders were involved in this energy policy. and by the way, the russian energy deliveries are not only used by germany, but by many u. s. and if we decide to end our new peer
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a chance and our prior chance, and at the same time, there is no political majority at all sides. to use the natural gas or to build new gas gas power plans, then we get to into travels and this is a current situation. so there is now a broad consensus to end dependency from russia as quick as possible. but we now need a forward looking approach. and this approach requires you statement to look at the ukraine, not as our domestic needs, and to be very clear in this respect. the challenge is not to stop this war as soon as possible because this is not in our hands. the challenge is just brush up as soon as possible and we all have to take whatever it needs to stop ration. it sounds like if i'm under any right, mr. warren, let me just ask you,
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are you saying that an embargo of russian oil and gas is just not? it's not going to happen right now. is that what you're saying? no, the union already agreed on a stop on co deliveries. we. 4 are still in discussions for all deliveries and also gas, but it takes some time, not only for germany, but also for europe in union. but in your best estimate, can you give us a timeline when with an embargo of russian gas and oil in germany, be realistic? i know timeline. so 5 weeks ago, at the beginning of this arrest, an attack on ukraine, we had 55 per cent from our guest supply from russia now with only 14
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percent of our gas supply from russia already. so there is a significant, invisible progress, but yes at all has to be done. and we have to be aware of the was the build fee that is. ready or may not end in weeks or mounds. it could also last some years. and that's why we have to now very concrete in a way that can be secured and can be taken can be kept for a long time. i want to ask you, mr. civil, hoary, while we have time about the german military, i know that the ukrainian president zalinski, he's been asking germany descend heavy weapons to help fight against the russians. do you see germany and the military? are you in a position to deliver anything that ukraine says it needs right now?
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the commitment is the ukraine service every support. this includes yes, heavy reference, artillery air defense and tanks. and yes, there's a variety of options for the german government including offers from our industry and coordinated with our partners in european union. so for example, some you partners delivered systems from sylvia time and they can actually be replaced. and we can fill these gas by, for example, delivering our energy fence system into our base of the rioting options to be chosen in coordinated manner by germany and by our partners. and then they did with ukraine past. yes, we have to do more and we have to get faster so far. we did too little and
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too late. there's a consensus in our parliament already more and to deliver also a heavy weapons. our champs are still hasn't changing, but i think they will be. and in due time concrete and significant progress, mr. bar, let me just ask you before we run out of time. what do you think chancellor? all i've shown should do, should he go to keep? should he get rid of this uncertainty and just make the trip to visit the president of ukraine? but it's not about our chances. go to people and the question is, what you can bring to green 1st. and what i expect is 1st and clear commitment, we do whatever it takes and certainly a fast track implementation of such a concept. we have to to constantly what we announced not by not by words but deeds and this prove has to be given.
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and then he can chatter whenever and wherever he wants, with hers from a civil war with the german parliament for the conservative c issue, party and the spokesperson for transit atlantic relations. mister stillborn is always we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. but the chief prosecutor of the international criminal court have said that ukraine is a crime scene. he made the comment during a visit to the town, a butcher near key where hundreds of civilians were found dead after russian forces withdrew. a new 2nd mass. great has now been excavated in boucher investigators believe it contains 40 to 60 bodies. they say the bodies have gunshot wounds. ukraine accuses russian forces of indiscriminately killing civilians in butch. moscow says that the killings were fake or staged. he was,
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president biden says that he believes why the mere putin's war in ukraine amounts to genocide. and it's the 1st time that the u. s. president, as use the term to describe russia's actions by emphasize that this is his personal view and that ultimately a court will have to decide the family budget, the ability to fill up your tax. none of it should he and john, whether a dictator declares war commit, genocide, half a world away. yes, i call the genocide, is become clear, clear that food is trying to wipe out the idea of the baby brain. and the evidence of money that different though it last week, the more evidence is coming out literally that the russians have done in ukraine, and we can only learn more and more about the devastation. a president biden was speaking there, as you. great official said that russia had largely completed preparations for it's
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expected offensive in ukraine's east and south of the mayor of the eastern city of car heath says that russian shelly of the city has increased significantly and that casualties include dead children and russians. date television has aired footage that it says shows ukrainian marines surrendering in large numbers in the besieged port city of mario poll. ukraine says it has no knowledge of any surrenders. i by next guess is our very own vladimir, as he pulls from d w's russia service. you're in berlin vladimir, it's good to see you. let's talk about the u. s. president for a moment, joe biden. his use of the word genocide. it drew an interesting reaction from the kremlin, basically, the kremlin, saying that the u. s. is the pot calling the kettle black or what, what it, what was your take on? well, the midship is called the spokesperson,
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so president put in called by the court. unacceptable. and told that the criminal strongly disagree with the position of the american president. and then john to quite use a line of defense use of rational courage is every time, even because it, by something meant by the western countries and accusing them down the same before . so it's like we're doing exactly the same thing. think that the united states before today, it's their golf accuse of the states doing, making the same genocide. he doesn't that she didn't use the word didn't genocide, but she told black are you asked make it's in. he's new in us history as well. she didn't caught an example, didn't called any countries, didn't call any historical evidence, but the general line of defense of the russian authorities like look at you, you are not better than us. yeah. if we look at moving forward at what blood your
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plans to do, i mean, it seems that his plan is to go as long as possible in ukraine until unity here in the west begins to crack. how much endurance does polluted and his military, how much do they insurance? do they really have we don't treat in though it's there are some reports about ross and military being all of our day offensive and on the of the tourist, very from offensive in the ukraine. seemed 5 or 66, the whole rigor removal of the russian troops from ki, if in your movement the eastern part of their grant in the new state of the military parish. my dear saying that there are a stringed already, and parts of additional troops being committed, committed to the, to the ukraine from different parts of process and even from abroad, from syria. my science of these are states as well. so no one really knows how,
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how much insurance they have, but i'm sure they will do as long as they can, as long as the president wants them to go. and they have a very symbolic date. and i, and i say 9 of my interest, it's because it's a very, very big national holiday, really big national holiday and of the 2nd world war. so there are reports that which in this, this military operation to be, to bring to be brought to some kind of and at least $9.00 to $5.00. yes, we know the 9th of may is not very long off either. i want to ask you to let me know in the, in the eyes of the cripple it has germany been the weakest link in, in the whole western alliance be dado or the european union. i mean, is it possible to say that putting considers germany to be a useful friend? no matter what berlin says about shared values with the us or the bread? i would look, use the word frank anymore, describing agency between it. in moscow,
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germany is a declarative, an unfriendly country by a rational authorities, that reports about the nickel germans being harassed by russian by russian authorities all across the country. i just spoke a couple of days go to the german governmental invoice for a settled, central or national minorities was like who is in charge for a so called trust and germans and harassing. he told me stories about people being harassed and ross and being reminded of nordstrom tool and unfriendly acts being made by an examined artist and deutsche a valid even. the dutchman is declared to the earth flooring against it, jensen rossi in bathroom rocking rust. so there is no more friendship as such. yeah, that's a very good point to make. we, we are no longer able to do our work as journal it, it, in russia. yep. vladimir as he pulled from d w 's, russia service led me. it's always good to get your take on events. thank you.
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thank you. ah, more than 4 and a half 1000000 refugees have fled the war in ukraine. that's according to the you. when the majority of these refugees end up in neighboring countries, such as well, dover, among them are tens of thousands of ukrainian jews. d w correspond to tanya kramer traveled to the moldova capital kitchen house, where the jewish community is rallying to help. a former printing house in the mold oven capital kyshay. now, now a refugee reception center. it has been set up by israeli 8 organizations to support jewish refugees from ukraine and help them immigrate omega yard to israel. forgot the tire man down from tel aviv. this work is very close to his heart. as a child, he left ukraine for israel with his parents of the long journey, a good night to sleep and presently before the fire. this is our goal to send the
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people as fast as possible, all the basically that they need to isa to say new york has already started over once before she was brutal from her home because of the conflict and the new hunt region in 2014, she hopes she has the necessary documents on hand it betty up on her stuff at you. i just want to finally start living normally. i want a family kid to live in a place of a peaceful country under peaceful skies in yet, but i don't want to run from the war again to the 2nd 35th time. my me, if i'm sorry, not everybody gets permission. documents are checked by israeli counselors, stuff on site by is ready law. some one with at least one jewish grandfather is eligible to receive citizenship. we hope the community and under jerusalem's ocean
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to hold them in time to live somewhere to view 2 of the condition. for the few days that they are real and checking the document, if the of the wire to came to we learned where the low and then find google involvement. some of the refugees also want to go to other countries like germany or stay in moldova. the local jewish community has also stepped in to help. the habit synagogue under renovation has opened at stores to refugees. in the soup kitchen, cook, natalie believes a daily hot meal helps people in crisis a lot better where we made lots of soup lentil soup bores salads and that sort of thing to make them feel better. invite him to give people strength and happiness. yeah. oh, well, some math some bittersweet moments at the airport. irina, you have him over and her mother from cocky in easton,
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ukraine are among the 80 people are permitted to board the flight to tel aviv a will agree we're already ready to move. but of course, it's very scary to leave when you've worked for the place where you live do studied and worked. the war, of course, sped up our decision. now, can you say it of so scored, as well as relief even as says? her thoughts are also with those left behind with a day's almost done, the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter either w news. you can follow me on twitter at rent golf t v. and remember, whatever happens between now and then, tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody ah,
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with into the conflict zone with sebastian pressure allegations with russian forces murder, ukrainian civilians outside kiev rapidly found my way to the un general assembly because russia really care what the world thinks about its invasion, my guess is weak from moscow as a former deputy for a minister on very few other conflicts own next on d. w. how long does the,
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ah, or an eternity? time it can be measured precisely, and yet each person experiences it differently as if there are different forms of type. type a phenomenon, a dimension and illusion. in 45 minutes on d. w. o. guardians, if truth exiled turkish journalistic. john don't, dora? i have paid almost every price of being a journalist in a country like turkey and mexican investigative journalist. i believe, man, this is i you,
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every day the government is involved. she's digging the country soil to find out the truth. they want to kill me. guardians of truth starts may 3rd on d, w. mm hm. fresh allegations of russian forces murder, ukrainian civilians outside k f have rapidly found their way to the un general assembly 93 countries voted to suspend russia from the un human rights council. a humiliating move of moscow. immediately convent as illegitimate and politically motivated. but as russia really care what the world thinks about its invasion, my guess this week from moscow is the former deputy foreign minister. i'm very few other of.


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