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tv   The Church of the Holy Sepulchre  Deutsche Welle  April 15, 2022 3:15am-4:01am CEST

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a this is my home. i came here 60 years in
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the choose of the hollis. if the holiest place in the world for christians it was he is the church was founded 60100 years ago. the different forces that inhabit the church are struggling were territories, rights and power or the control of the church on the whole a civil occur and the entire crucial war indeed, many things will occur inside the church of the whole civil most of them are under the surface hidden from people's sight i
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ah, ah ah. 1 the ah, a in the beginning there was nothing. well, maybe not nothing, but only to school chaplains. one had called go from the place where jesus was crucified, and the 2nd at the tune of jesus christ. throughout the centuries,
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the church was ruined and rebuilt. time after time, by the conquerors of jerusalem. so you see it's a miracle that displays stim stance. there are 3 big denominations who overseas, the activities inside the church. and they are the facto owner of the church. oh, the rigs. the our meals. oh. and the catholics
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lynn issue, the 3 major denominators. there is also the soon church and the catholic church which are very old churches lived on the roof. ali if you abuse, lost all din riots in the middle of 8th, you sanctioned in a clash of powers. but i'm getting ahead of myself. what guides the daily lives in the church is an ancient, fragile thing called the status school. it is a complex and confusing a reason. thank you very much. to decide the borderline is very difficult. you know,
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if the column stays in the, in the middle, we take half of the column. this side is greek, so the bigger half of the column is griggs, the other half is our meaner when they separated the area. this is your, this is mine. welcome to the borderline one, what's yellow? okay, i will share the of the column that's on the, on the line to as the way it was. i think there's a jealousy between the churches. everybody wants to grab more space for himself than the other. so each one did it last to explain the other guy out to have it for the so it's not for sure what the do of what you see
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sometimes. well they that's life. so this is the, this science with it shows that christ was crucified. and that cody have service now. oh okay. 05 minutes or what? okay. that is and and things okay. minutes for 20 minutes. oh yeah, no, no, we're start playing with them out. now as i was like a go and have a service. somebody has a family that are probably not. it belongs to the greeks until
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$1539.00, the gold gold that belongs to the odd meters. so they bribed the salter on the southern game orders, sending gar, meters transferred phase 2 georgians. then we went to the assault, he bribed him, if you could, back the army would do what they were, they had either they sold to the greeks or greeks took an overt marvin, belongs to the greeks. we steal things from each other, you know, something like that. unfortunately, now when we lost a place, then we went to solve the we give some money when we purchased that area that we went up all the way up. so then we'll bill them for all the call that 2nd ago we lost the 1st one. we had the 2nd bill
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these riley place has to restrict the rules of the church. if we ever invite the police to come, they will come. if you do not invite, they have no right to come up with. busy johnny was preparing for the job and arab christian from nazareth, who had served the church as a child. he said there were few churches should i give you these other in advance and you should tell us what is the agreement so that we can follow? we are here working together, securing and taking care of the holy subject. got together. so we,
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i think that we are part of that church of the holy sector, a forty's. so we are here to say merry christmas and happy new year for everybody. we are here to help to serve and to protect everybody, and to reserve the status ro here is now in the, in the holy sex. christmas holiday is a holiday or christ booth. like we celebrate our birthday. oh, the mill is a bell. deb, god has prepared his way to come and give birth of christ to be the savior of men. oh, that's
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a whole christmas meaning as truth. yes, ah o z, a z as in a a a ha. the weakest of the churches today. this will be the most powerful of all the 3 of
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in church. they used to have many whites and dedicated spaces inside the church. but today, they don't have any place. not even one inch this day as so tongue the ethiopian monastery. all this belongs to the ethiopians, fiala from the door to hear that we sleep here and here and here. 25 monks spend the whole day here for them, but we also got the place to live this entire courtyard belongs to the ethiopians. shackleton. so what does one do when he doesn't have any room left? he goes up to the roof, was up on the roof. the ancient darrell sultan monastery,
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which the cups claim that it belongs to him. her . so we have however, a, it's as a result on his scope, the monastery under his equal, shall found his meaning to some tongue tongue. his this is egyptian name is 0, lord a from the name. you know, this is for us not for this. you can, she will not have, it does not have a name like existence or through addition. ah,
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here it was a problem in the 18th century. by m egyptians case it comp 41 was named abraham ju hardy became and said to the ethiopians to let me live with you. we share the same faith, haute, indiana, and love them. sorry for the then he went back to egypt and told them ish, michel, there's a place, a large monastery that belongs to ethiopians clearly, but they don't know how to run it. they don't know what they're doing. it, they don't have power. they're weak. heavily, let's take it from them and then ship. abraham spoke to the cop take patriotic hockey. later he put up a big door and locked the place. then when our people returned,
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he told them there's no room for you here. go away. a few years ago there was a conflict here. yes, sir. cox came during france as amanda freed up, they came and beat us. the corpse. there's no trust now. the trust went up to heaven millennium if you question the if you abuse city, they will then for sensuous see as the coptic jose debbie divorce inches, i little wish will you have to believe because will destroy the in the old days. and now whoever lives dead, he has the right to say it belongs to him. you
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did have to see to pull as you've been protecting your country. the other side wants to get it from you to kick you out in a way that's the mentality which is not riots in cushion. ah man crush was after his death on the cross was taken down. it was put on a stone there, washed by the annoying to like go to the jewish cousin. did they?
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they buried him in the tube thus lies cold, anointing stone, still no function. kilograms. i said that as a whole new storm. so they're being with them. switch centered oil, they put on the song and they cleaned the dead cloth and take it with them. and those who cannot come here. he take, he had given to the list. ah, if you need to get really emotional and you cannot stop crying, that's normal. are still used to go outside the church in the
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courtyard because the pilgrim used to come and cut pieces of them so take with them . so they brought in. they pulled their pilgrim so doing the same thing inside the church. they put another slab on top of it. when they my mother came from the church, say their turn. a priest came from jerusalem to recruit the students. it all and she told me he want to become a priest. and then because my mother said, so i couldn't say no without knowing what i'm saying. i said yes. how? well we have to go to jewel to what insurance on that myself. i don't know when we gone on the bus from linen on the bus. we used to gulf from syria,
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all of us in those in 1956. so i can my, i stay and 7 years without going home loan. my mom got my bath 7 years there as the coalition. if you go and come out there, you will be a textual father and mother. he will not be attached to the church. i told my parents i'm much use animals. my parents, my brother's that said can not news i am for everybody. yes. most is then i'm stuck with the just thought, oh oh,
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i think he should have been with us as a kid, liaison officer or christian communities is a demanding jock, it's j and it's not just about being in contact like the churches have a problem. they call johnny, but it's not that simple. julia. hi alice, i'm responsible for upholding the status quo side to friend. that is the most complicated thing. there is the greatest area in the christian world. i'm. i'm not dealing with one denomination. mm hm. but the 5 different denominations inside the church of the holy supper, and one outside of it. and every problem that comes up between 2 denomination to somebody over control, possession, power, sovereignty, all those things a cool off. i've learned one thing here in the old city patients. no more and more patient i should. i think that in itself is a challenge. it's of little a gag with now
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will from an outsider's point of view, someone would ask, what do the muslim have to be in the christian church? naturally, the door had the log and the keith. but this was not an ordinary key. there was a quarrel among the christians, which one of them wanted to hold the power when the seller had been conquered, jerusalem, he came up with an unfortunate looks idea. the moslems would guard the key. there were 2 very respective mazel families in jerusalem. no one knows exactly how it was in the beginning. who was locking was unlucky. the little rick
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has so everyone made up his own tradition. mamma is more. she that than me the time my late father let me hold the key and opened the gates of the church of the holy sepulchre. i was 8 years old likeness at that. i was very excited as if i were holding the whole world and my hand was among the key had been passed down through 28 generations. and now i was custodian of the keys of the church of the holy sepulchre. my father was the last shake, descended from a long line going back to 1187. i chose not to be a shake and my oldest son doesn't want to be the custodian of the keys opening up to the amount of to hopefully it's still after the audio. and in our full apology, darlena jim johnny, johnny got the key holder, but not the dorman,
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my job is custodian of the keys with him on the policy with the key thing on those and charging us for the church. every morning we opened the church for it was you know, 1007 days and the key remains to i as your know we have, we have a place here beside the church where you play, i swear, basically leave it with no joy. this on the coming, they wait for me. when i am coming a give it to me, i find another opening enough that i finish. i well, these change last history seems to have all this changed and may be the day will come when the churches will take over the key.
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when the english came to jerusalem, they realized that there was a problem. but they could not determine what was right. and love was wrong. they formulated something for themselves in order to govern the christians here. so what we know to day as the stair, the school was actually made by the english 260 years in each the nomination has its own conflict between its tradition and the state school . what we must abide by it even if we don't like it.
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so this way the church is functioning, forsake thomas. this area of or is that means common area? ah. including the entrance, the doors and all this area is common area. the 1st one and the 2nd one belongs to the armenians. catholics have only won. chris have fought with the golden eggs to call it they have fall and the catholic church has only one. i cannot clear myself because even the longest of the 3 than 3 of us should be there at the
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same time. if they do with all that, and then i lose my rights, it's a lie and it is at all. yes, sometimes meaning for some time meaningless. the limits on the status school are tested almost on a daily basis. it gets drastic when a denomination wishes to perform services in an area they don't own when the griggs demanded to into the st. helena church, which belongs to the arminius, and we refused. then the police had to get involved decisions
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from the police. no, we don't go, okay, we have to, we have to solve problem between us and okay. no to come home and you're forced to interview did. this is what you're doing, something you're not taking on their side, which i go like. if there's a problem suppressor, there won't be any fighting. all you do, you are getting the greek priest inside. okay? yes, this is in my a responsible and our responsibility. i'm taking my responsibility would be greatly site. okay, but there's some real close that this is the job too much, not to squiggles against against not the school. okay. the 1st time happened. hey, denise general coursework. we didn't force anybody. no, we didn't force you in. what? no, we didn't enforce any of that to put it's not that what you have. no right we how is that? we have to have we have that. i know they can have you can do that. we don't have
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that. i think that we don't have that. i think this in this into so way off it when the verbal arguments to us and to a peaceful solution. i guess they start from 5. he says that's why the police can do mom. somebody because of the probably a stuff fight with the police. sometimes it is, it is my country of my spiritual continue, the way i want to defend the period is all the way this is all the way.
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ah, this is the tomb of christ. yeah, the be fortunate is he in the to come here's spend some time meditate will give you spiritual strength and contentment in life. the forces, right? greeks have to have their mesh here every night. and when they finish, it will take into a war at 3 o'clock in the morning. and they'll, i me as want to get a mass here after we finish at 5 o'clock in the catholics. we'll take laura do similar to each one has a 2 hours time to do their math on inside the tool. when there is no service done here. on the creeks are the cause of
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a hole in a on a . busy busy on a, if you don't, kim, what is yours? both right and pivot tories and vigilantly protected. others will take
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it from you. a big chew. shoes became small and lost right. when others grew seized more and more power and became dominant. i've been hearing to $70.00 understand my life of course is somebody to kim for the land is difficult to to live here is with nazi . he's in our family. this is chris individual, mary lou, because we are langston unless we recover the brother here in the whole,
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the soap which is where we're living together. because it's far away from greece and noticed every family the once the kids to grow up to married to have a child. and what is it difficult for them to understand, but slowly, slowly, with the part of their uses. their believe are leg replacing. that's not religious because i came from young a young age and the fullest. i feel the holy self with like my house ah once and i'm sure it'll pass the consoles from europe and ramallah will arrive here at 12 o'clock. ok. at 10 or 1030. the greek delegation, the greek foreign minister, the u. s. deputy console or the u. s. console will be a party of 4 plus 6 security people. okay. but there's probably more to come
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with. oh is the morning? well then exciting, special day thousands of people from all over the world on coming to celebrate christ reservation. with
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according to tradition, few that goes happen in the old days. only 5 ceremonies signifies the resurrection of christ. the holy fire that comes from heaven. lights all the candles we all believe in miracles. we believe it could happen. but it doesn't exactly work that way.
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each pilgrim comes with the mind that miracles and classes visa, visa, excess people. and who's that you get excited when i want to look i get excited to religious excitement. it's good that a beginning if you'll be in church the head, big role in the holy fives in relation near the one he interview side to to and to, to my phone. you know, amuse me another churches to, to slice
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a little bit. oh good. how are you? great, good to see you. so you are with everybody. i tried to visit it. should me like that? that a lot of kids you have not, not gotten
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this is mystery in faith. but we believe that it can help you in being the person the speed that we have is god's spirit. and it has to be no wish fed. so that's what church of religion thus to that person. i love this place. despise all the problems that we had with other churches. disagreements were whether it's a nice place to be that it comes at night. sometimes
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nobody is here and you start thinking, oh my god, you know, is this place real? i'm here now studied no question yourself. i mean, how happened that i'm here? i room it belongs to me, them him and you take it all of the stores, clean it, you know, the das or whatever. so you home like void 12000 years old. how can i touch it? you know, it, the light is, you know, ah hey, somebody i don't believe to myself, but it's really, this is my hand touching the rock it all cold. rog and just this is it. whether you crystal not you feel that anyone who is got according to the bible, god is
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a spirit who believe that christ is the son of god. there is a difference in explaining the nature of christ, not the physical nature, but the union of god and man they were united as one in separate estie armenian belief. but the catholics and the greeks belief that laws 2 natures, although united but they function separate from that point of view in the middle of the 5th century, the churches were separated because of different thinking. ringback even wars happen for that
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judgment of people from outside the church is not the same as the judgment we use. it may not sound logical what they do or what we say. but over here is how the church, according to the status quo, it is accepted. that's the way we do it as to where we are used to the with and that's probably delay. who will keep doing it.
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