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the choose of the homeless if the holiest place in the world for christians. it was his the church was founded 60100 years ago. the different forces that inhabit the church are struggling were territories, rights and power was the control of the church on the whole a civil occur and the entire crucial war indeed, many things occur inside the church of the holy simpler. most of them are under the surface, hidden from people's sight. tara la.

oh ah, the ah, go a in the beginning there was nothing. well, maybe not nothing but only to school chaplains. one and we'll go from the place where jesus was crucified. and the 2nd at the tune of jesus christ. throughout the centuries, the church was ruined and rebuilt. time after time my the conquerors of jerusalem.

so you see it's a miracle that displays stim stance. there are 3 big denominations who overseas, the activities inside the church. and they are the facto owner of the church. oh griggs. yar meals. oh and the catholics.

lin issue to the 3 major denominators. there is also the soon church and the catholic church, which are very old churches, lived on the roof. ali, if you abuse, lost all din riots in the middle of 8th. you sent you in a clash of powers, but i'm getting ahead of myself. what guides the daily life in the church is an ancient, fragile thing called the status school. it is a complex and confusing a reason. thank you very much. to decide the borderline is very difficult. you know, if the column stays in the, in the middle,

we take half of the column. this side is greek, so then the girl half of the column is griggs, the other half is our meaner when they separated the area. this is your, this is mine. welcome to the borderline one, what's yellow? ok, we'll share the of the column that's on the, on the line to as to where it was. i think there's a jealousy between the churches. everybody wants to grab more space for himself than the other. so each one did it most to expel the other guy out to have it for the so it's not tricia what the do or what you see sometimes. well they,

that's life. so this is the the science with it shows that christ was crucified. according as serious now. ah. okay. 05 minutes or whatever it is. and things of that. i mean it's a dandy means. oh yeah, no, no, we're start playing and now i will go to lunch. 15 minutes. you're going to have it should wish somebody had some family that are probably not belongs to the greeks until 1579, the gold gold that belong to the odd meters. so they bribe the salt salt on game

order, pending. got me, transfer the phase 2 georgians. then we went to the assault, he bribed him, if you could back thought we would do a what they were, they had either they sold to the greeks or groups to could overt now it belongs to the, to which we steal things from each other. you know, something like that, unfortunately. now when we lost a place, then we went through solve that, we give some money when we purchase that area that we will all the way up there. then we'll bill them for all we call that. second ago, we lost the 1st one. the 2nd bill.

these riley, please has to respect the rules of the church. if be ever invited to please to come, they will come. if you do not invite, they have no right to come in with . busy johnny was preparing for the job and arab christian from nazareth, who had served the church as a child. he said, there are few churches should agree with the other in advance, and he should tell us what is the agreement so that we can follow. we are here working together, securing and taking care of the holy set that up together. so we, i think that we are part of that church of the holy sector with another lady

pulleys. so we are here to say merry christmas and happy new year for everybody. we are here to help, to serve and to protect everybody. and to reserve the status ro here in the holy sex. christmas holiday is the holiday of christ both like we celebrate our birthday. oh, the mill is a bell dead. god has prepared his way to come and give birth of christ to be the savior of man. oh, that's a whole christmas meaning as truth. yes

ah o z, a z as in a, a o. oh, the weakest of the churches to day. this will be the most powerful of all these european church. they used to have many whites and dedicated spaces inside the church.

but today, they don't have any place, not the 11 inch. this is dead as so tongue the ethiopian monastery. all this belongs to the ethiopians, or from the door to hear hardly. we sleep here and here. and here. 25 monks spend a whole day here for them, but we also got the place for him. this entire courtyard belongs to the ethiopians . she actually took. so what does one do when he doesn't have any room left? he goes up to the roof, was up on the roof. the ancient darrell sultan monastery,

which the cups claim that it belongs to him. no, he's so long. we have, however, it is a diesel tongue, has got the monastery. undo equal, shall found his meaning to some tongue tongue his of his this is a gyptian name, is the ruler a forums. a name. you know, this is a for us, not for us. you can distribute not have not have a named like existence tradition ah,

here, yeah. there was a problem in the 18th century by m. egyptians case it comp 41 was name hebrew, him to hardy, became and said to the ethiopians, to let me live with you. we share the same faith. hud lumina. hung had one of them, sorry for that. then he went back to egypt and told them ish market. there's a place, a large monastery that belongs to ethiopians alert, but they don't know how to run it. they don't know what they're doing. it, they don't have power. they're weak. heavily. let's take it from them. hello, ship. abraham spoke to the coptic patriotic hockey. later he put up a big door and locked the place. then when our people returned, he told them, there's no room for you here. no away.

a few years ago, there was a conflict here. mister cox came during france as mazda 3 not they came and beat us. let the cops there's no trust. now. the trust went up to heaven millennium if you question the, if you abuse city there be, then for centuries. yes is captain chose david. therefore sanchez, i don't know which one you have to believe because will destroy the in the old days . and now whoever lives dead, he has the right to say it belongs to him. you

did happen to put as you keep protecting your country. the other side wants to get it from you to kick you out in a way that's the mentality which is not wyatt's in cushion. ah lin. chris was after his dance on the cross was taken down. it was put on no storm there, washed by the annoying to like go to the jewish cousin. did they they buried him in the tomb that's lies. cold anointing stone or

stone function kilograms. i said that as a whole new storm. so they're being with them. switch centered oil, they put on the swan and they cleaned the dead cloth, then take it with them and those who cannot come here. he take heed and given to the 2 bullets in in the beginning li, emotional. and you cannot stop and crying as long aslan used to be outside the church in the a quote yet because the pilgrim used to come and cut pieces of them so take with

them. so the brotherly and they pull the dead and pilgrim so doing the same thing is that the judge will they put another slab on top of it at when the my mother came from the church say that an a priest came from jerusalem to recruit the students it all and she told me you want to become a priest and then because my mother said, so i couldn't say no without knowing what i'm saying. i said yes to how well you have to. what would you also, what did you look at myself? why don't, why don't we go on on the bus for a minute on the bus. we used to go from syria, all of us in those in 1956. so i can my stay in

7 years without going home. hello, my mom or martha 7 years, there's the condition. if you go home and come out there, you will be a textual. busy father and mother, he will not be attached to the church. i told my parents, i'm much use animals. my parents, my brothers. that's it. and love news. i am for everybody. oh says then i'm stuck with the church. i mean mm hm. oh. i think he showed up on us as a kid,

liaison officer or christian communities is demanding jock, it's j, and it's not just about being in contact like at the churches have a problem they call johnny little. it's not that simple. the low to high alice time, responsible for upholding the status quo side. the friend that is the most complicated thing. there is the greatest area in the christian world. i'm. i'm not dealing with one denomination. mm hm. but the 5 different denominations inside the church of the holy supper, and one outside of it. and every problem that comes up between 2 denomination, but somebody over control, possession of power, sovereignty, all those things a clock. i've learned one thing here in the old city, patient them and more patient i should. i think that in itself is a challenge. it's have little it gag with now. will from an outsider's point of view,

someone would ask. what do the moslem have to do in the christian church? naturally in the door had the log and the keith. but this was not an ordinary key. it was a quarrel among the christians. each one of them wanted to hold the power when the seller had deal conquered jerusalem, he came up with an unfortunate looks idea. the moslems would guard the key. there were 2 very respect of muzzle families in jerusalem. no one knows exactly how it was in the beginning. who was locking was unlucky. then lo, rick has so everyone been up his own tradition.

bombers lot. she nathan, me the time my late father, let me hold the key and open the gates of the church of the holy sepulchre. i was 8 years old lincoln. he said i was very excited as if i were holding the whole world in my hands. miller's mother, the key had been passed down through 28 generations, and now i was custodian of the keys of the church of the holy sepulchre. females. my father was the last shake, descended from a long line going back to 1187. i chose not to be a shake and my oldest son doesn't want to be the custodian of the keys. little telling her name on them off to hopefully get off to the orchard. and the last one was like lana gym. johnny. johnny got the key holder, but not the dorman, my job is custodian of the keys. mom of all the kids here

with the kidney moles and charging us for the church. every morning we open the church before we close you. no one has done at 7 days and the key remains to i as your let me know we have, we have a place here beside the church where you play as we basically live. it was a joy. this on the coming there was for me when i am coming a give it to me, i find another opening. and after i finish, i will these change last history seems to have all this changed and may be the day will come when the churches will take over the key.

when the english came to jerusalem, they realised that there was a problem. but they could not determine what was right and what was wrong. they formulated something for themselves in order to govern the christians here. so what we know today as the stair, the school was actually made by the english 260 years in each denomination has its own conflict between is tradition and the stetsco what we must abide by it. even if we don't like it. so this way the church is functioning, forsaking us this

area for is that means common area ah. including the entrance, the doors and all this area is common area. the 1st one and the 2nd one belongs to the armenians. catholics have longly won. griggs, have 4 with the golden eggs to call it. they have fall and the catholic church has only one. i cannot clear myself because the middle is to the 3. then 3 of us should be there at the same time. if they do with all that,

and then i lose my rights, it's a lie and it is, there are yes, sometimes meaning for some time meaningless. the limits on the status school are tested almost on a daily basis. it gets drastic when denomination wishes to perform services in an area they don't own when the griggs demanded to into st. helena church, which belongs to the arminius, can we refuse? then the police had to get involved decisions from the police?

no, we don't go. okay, we have to, we have to for problem between us and g. okay, go through, come home and you're forced to interview did. this is what you're doing, something you're not taking on this side, which i go like it. if there's a problem you to pay for, there won't be any fighting. all you do, you are putting the greek priest inside. okay? yes, this is in my a responsible and our response to that. okay. i'm taking my responses with the put the greeting site. okay. but there's no real close that this is the job too much stuff, the squiggles and against, against not the school. okay. the 1st time happened. hey, denise gerald. course we didn't force anybody came out so we didn't force you in what you know, we didn't enforce an even better to put this. not that what you have. no, right. we have that. we have to have that. i know they can of you can do that. we don't have that. i think that we don't have that. i think this in this and it's

a way off when the world arguments do not and to a peaceful solution, i guess they stuff and fights. he says, that's why the police can do mom. sometimes because of the probably a self fight. it would, the police, it is a, it is my country of my spiritual continue in the way i want to defend period is all the way. this is on the way

ah, this is the tomb of christ. yeah, the good fortune is he in to come his spend some time meditate to give you spiritual strength and contentment in life. the forces right. griggs have to have their mesh here every night. and when they finish, it will take into a war at 3 o'clock in the morning. and they'll, i me as want to get math here after we finish at 5 o'clock in the catholics will take will war of similar to like each one has a 2 hours time to do their math inside the tool when there is no service done here on the greeks are the cause of a

say, it makes it a little you did a on a on a if you don't. kim, what is yours? both right and territories and vigilantly protected. others will take it from you. a big

churches became small and last right? when others grew, sees more and more power and became dominant them she has to sit in the positive lives, understand what my life of course is. somebody to kim for the learners is difficult to to live here is was much easier to our final leslie. this is chris individual, mary lou, because we are langston. and also we have the brother here in the holy soap, which is where we're living together. because it's

far away from greece. a family that once the kids to grow up little married to have a child and what is it difficult for them to understand, but slowly, slowly, with the price of their usage, their believe or leg recreational religious because i came from young a young age in the fullest every guy feel the holy sub with like my house ah, once and i'm sure it'll pass the consoles from europe and ramallah will arrive here at 12 o'clock. okay. at 10 or 1030, the greek delegation on the greek foreign minister, the u. s. deputy console or the u. s. console will be a party of 4 plus 6 security people. okay. but there's probably more to come

with. oh is the morning? well then exciting, special day thousands of people from all over the world. oh, to coming to celebrate christ reservation with oh i

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according to tradition, fuel that cause happens in the old days. 45 ceremonies signifies the resurrection of christ. the holy applies that comes from heaven. lights all the candles. we all believe in new out cuz we believe it could happen but it doesn't exactly work that way.

each pilgrim comes with the mind that miracles and class is visa, visa and excess people. and who's that? you get excited when i want to look, i get excited to religious excitement. it's good that a beginning if you'll be in church the head, big role in the holy fives and recreation near the one who interview side to to and to, to my oh, you know i me is myisha other churches to decide when oh

good. how are you? great, good the seal. so you are with everybody. i tried this type of it should me like that? that a lot of kids you have not. not gotten

a good ah there's a mystery in faith. but we believe that it can help you

and being the person the speed that we have is god's spirit. and it has to be no wish fed. so that's what church of religion thus to lead person. i love this place. despise all the problems that we had with other churches disagreements or whether it's a nice place to be that it comes at night. sometimes nobody is here and you start thinking, oh my god, you know, is this place real?

i'm here now studied, no question yourself. i mean, how happened that i'm here? i room it belongs to me, them him. and you take care of this thorns clean it, you know, the docile or whatever. so you home like boy, boy, 2000 years old. how can i touch with, you know, you light is, you know, ah hey, somebody i don't believe to myself, but it's really, this is my hand touching the rock it all cold. rog and just this is it. whether you crystal not you feel that anyone who is gut according to the bible, god is a spirit who believe that christ is the son of god.

there is a difference in explaining the nature of christ, not the physical nature, but the union of god and man they were united as one in separate, testy armenian belief. but the catholics and the greeks belief that last 2 natures, although united when they function separate from that point of view in the middle of the 5th century, the churches were separated because of different thinking. ringback even wars happen for

judgment of people from outside the church is not the same as the judgment we use. it may not sound logical what they do or what we say. but over here is how the church, according to the status quo, it is accepted. that's the way we do it as to where we are used to the lit and that's probably delay. who will keep doing it? ah

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