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you? that's it for tonight on "the willis report." thank you for joining us. have a great night. ♪ lou: good evening. new fears that a deadly new bird flew that has sickened more than 100 people and killed more than 20 in china now represents an active global threat. we learned today that the lethal strain of flu has reached the island nation of taiwan, the pure blurt -- bird flew it strain known as age seven and nine is being classified as one of the most lethal of its kind ever by the world health organization. it is no longer isolated to china. a businessman from china -- taiwan reportedly contracted the deadly strain of flu while traveling in china.
the man is hospitalized since his return from china on the night of april. that taiwan health minister says that the man is now in serious condition. the questions about this new bird flew far outnumber the answers. the centers for disease control unable at this time to determine whether or not the influenza is being transmitted from human to human or only through contact with sickened birds. an international team of scientists led by the who and the chinese government spend five days in china investigating the issues last week and were also unable to determine whether the virus is spreading between people. meanwhile, the centers for disease control confirmed to fox news that they are racing to develop a vaccine, but there are still at least several months between l and the work's completion and caution that mutations found in the virus are
leaving them uncertain whether the vaccine now in development will work when they finally have it available. one of the greatest obstacles the scientists are encountering and tracking, the h7m9 virus, the absence of an obvious observable ellis in the bird population itself. fox news international correspondents john roberts has been marking the story and has our live report tonight. john. >> reporter: good evening. that last point that you made is very troubling because with the previous bird flew they knew where it was because birds were getting sick and dying. it is not affecting birds, so they have no idea how far this has spread. the team from the world health organization which included the director of the cdc influence a division wrapped up the trip today by saying that this is an unusually dangerous virus humans. you mentioned the death toll. and the possibility that there may be some small clusters of
disease were this was picked up from human to human transition. a flu expert at the centers for disease control. i talked to him. the emergency operation center where they're didn't -- diligently walk deeper of watching for any sign that this is being transmitted from human to human and here's what he told me. >> there are three clusters of infections. two or three effective members of the same household. and in these cases sometimes it's difficult to know whether one human and a family spread it to another or they must acquire -- both acquired it from a bird they were exposed to. >> reporter: those clusters include a father and his two sons, parent and a daughter and husband and wife. so far the world health organization and centers for disease control insist there is no what is called sustained human to human transition which could lead to labor endemic which would be the worst of all worlds. take a look at this. the dan -- granddaddy flu outbrk
killed 50 million. one out of every 50 people who got sick died. with this new flu, h7m9, one out of every five people who get sick ties with the disease. lou: over a time of some weeks that won the five ratio has been holding up as well. what about the vaccine? we hear this from the centers for disease control, at least months away from having it. the drug to treat this, where are we? >> where we are in all this, and let me lay this out. -irst of all, the vaccine. they believe there are some distance. it will take months. the problem is that the end of that time frame, they have no clue how effective this vaccine will be because the vaccines that have been tried for similar strains of h7 flu have not been what they call immunogenic which means it does not really proud that much of an immune response. they may need to add a different
material. the cdc was treated to the breathing a sigh of relief. a simple virus was susceptible. just yesterday when i was at the centers for disease control they get another sample of the virus which they found absurd mutations that had they continued would have rendered tampa of flu and religions that ineffective. >> this one had been able to overcome the final -- final step that could have become resistant to the drugs. have not gotten there yet, we can tell by looking at it that it was on its way there. >> that would be problematic. >> would be problematic. >> reporter: thankfully the centers for disease control just made available diagnostic to public colleges across the country to start monitoring a real-time basis for h7m9. at the beginning you mentioned that guy from taiwan who came down with the disease. a very troubling aspects to
that. he says he had no contact with birds. they don't know how we got it. lou: leaving aside the possibility then that he gutted from person to person contact, let's go back to that issue of vaccines because having a vaccine available and having sufficient supplies of the vaccine are entirely different issues. that issue, as you put it, also becomes problematic, doesn't it? >> it does. you hope that the manufacturers will be able to grow. there are encouraged because the vaccine is growing well. we're on the edge of a perfect storm. you have a novel virus to humans. no natural immunity to it. we know that it infects people and causes severe disease. we do not have a vaccine at this point. it could become immune to our front line retrovirus. so if this were to suddenly mutate and become easily transmissible human to human there could be as serious problem on the hands of people
not just in china, but around the world. >> thank you very much, and that is precisely why we are bringing to you the very latest on this disease, h7m9. think you very much for being with us. the obama administration and the president's people working hard to press his insistence for months that sequestration will have a hugely disproportionate impact, far beyond its relatively slight budgetary size and weight. the president's campaign reached what most surly be its most absurd heights this morning. let me urge caution. please prepare yourself for your about to year. >> most of the headlines are focused in airports across the nation. the frustration and the economic effects of these delays should not be minimized.
the sequester could also cost the country and humankind a cure for aids, parkinson's disease, or cancer. lou: that senate floor literally overwhelmed. meanwhile, republicans are accusing the obama administration and manufacturing a crisis by taking a 4 percent cut to the faa budget and imposing a 10% reduction on air traffic controllers. here is republican congressman l. rogers of kentucky lashing out at faa administrator. >> this imperial attitude on the part of the administration and the most recent example of that imperialism is disgusting. lou: the faa says staffing reductions from sequester related furloughs are to blame for the more than 1,000 flight delays yesterday. interestingly, few washington
d.c. area airports are experiencing any delays allow. senator ted crews, republican of texas now said he wants the path the citizenship taken off the table for immigration reform. in an interview with cbs a senator crews suggested the reason president obama and the democrats are insisting on a path the citizenship in the gang of a pill is that they know that it will scuttle the effort altogether and that they will be able to campaign on the issue again in 2014 and 2016. our first guest says before we hurry to overhaul our immigration laws we must methodically look at each of the components that need to be fixed to that end, the house judiciary committee will unveil two measures this week aimed at creating a new temporary agricultural guest worker program and a measure that requires all employers to use
e-rarefy. joining us now, house judiciary committee chairman, congressman bob good lot of virginia. good to have you with us. >> good to be with youtube, lou. lou: let me start with where you expect to go. the guest worker program, e-rarefy, what happened to the gang of eight and the senate and the gang of eight in the house and their big, what appeared to be omnibus bills overwhelming. 844 pages. >> well, those are important efforts in the senate and in the house, but we have said from the outset that this is an extraordinarily complex piece of legislation. your to take it all in one bite, and that we don't want to have a bill like obamacare where the then speaker nancy pelosi said you have to pacify know what is in it. there is a lot of unintended consequences that will occur when you put so many moving parts together, so we are
breaking it down into pieces. we will start with the-rarefy, something very important for employers to use to assure themselves that they do not hire people who are now lawfully present and a guest worker program because the current one is badly broken. if you did have a legalization program, which was done in 1986, about one-third of the workforce and agriculture left agriculture when they could work anywhere else. and so we have to have something better than they had then in order to do that. we also will have something dealing with high skilled workers. we will deal with interior enforcement in the country. homeland security committee will produce something related to border security, and we will start putting all of these pieces out there and then holding hearings on the legislative language to hear the strength and weaknesses of them. that is how you should build this from the grassroots up. we will hear from our constituents and our members both on the judiciary committee and in the full house. it will have input in this process, and we will move up
that way and do something that we think can address the fact that while we are a nation of immigrants, we are also -- also a nation of laws that have to have something that works to recognize both. lou: let me just say, if i may, mr. chairman, you are talking so much good sense and judgment in the way to proceed here. i have got to compliment you on it. digress a lecture on it. do you have the support of your caucus and your leaders on this? >> well, we are building support by the day. recently have support from our leaders in terms of recognizing that this is something that we are going to be proactive on and introduce the legislation on. we have to see what the group of eight in the house produced. we are not discouraging them. in fact, we are encouraging them to see what they can produce in a bipartisan fashion. we will certainly take that and look at what can be utilized their along with what we are
producing and try to produce a bipartisan bill that also has the overwhelming majority of the majority party in the house. then, if we are successful in passing something through the house, sit down and negotiate the differences with the senate. and so is supposed to work, and that is how i think the only way will work and have the acceptance of the american people. lou: in 2007, and all thing class because it was imposed from the top down. and we have to make sure that does not happen this time. lou: also because both political parties are trying to gain the american people as hard as they could rather than be forthright and open and invite public opinion and comment from, after all, the citizens of the country who do have some right and privilege to understand the public policy is being created by you folks. i think that is terrific. i hope that the leaders to stand
up for precisely that process to be let me ask you one other question. a federal judge has supported the immigration and customs enforcement challenge to president obama is deferred deportation policy and the judge in the case is even intimating that ice may be successful. what is your reaction to that preliminary indication and that case for the federal court? >> it is very encouraging because the union, in this case, which brought the suit on behalf of the 5,000 employees who are charged with enforcing immigrationnlaws in the country has said that the administration is keeping us from doing our jobs. and if we're going to do immigration reform, the first thing we're going to have to do is to convince the american people that this will not be a repeat of 1986 when we gave legal status, in fact, quick, easy path with the citizenship for 3 million people and then never honored the commitments on
enforcement, including employer sanctions. all of that will be a good measure of whether or not the administration and senate are willing to recognize something that i think has to be right up front in doing this, and that is, there have to be both border enforcement and interior enforcement legislation to and that has to be put into effect as we do this. if not we will give legal status to 11 million people and then figure out how to make all this work. we tried once, and a lot of people were fooled. we should not be fooled again. lou: congressman, we appreciate you being with us. chairman of the house judiciary committee. thank you very much. >> thank you, lou. lou: much more on the push for immigration reform in the gang of eight legislation brought tonight's broadcast and a great deal more. stay with us. our nation's leaders are pushing hard for immigration reform, but in survey after survey, only
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♪ lou: stocks rallying off lows, except for the dow jones industrials. when the index, we will get some perspective on these markets. the banking sector and particular. one of the country's very best bank analysts, mike mayo o.c. lfa right after we take a look at what happened today, at least in part. the dow finishing near its lows of the day, but it was a
different story for the broader market. the doubts of industrial down 43 points. s&p and nasdaq rally enough of lows to close the day fairly to the upside, three and a half million shares traded which passes for good volume these days. the two largest drags on the dow, procter and gamble and at&&. both down more than 5 percent after they disappointed in their earnings reports. goldman telling investors to cover their shorts in gold. they just -- did i just say shortage? shephard did. those who listened benefit it again. although just about $15 today. crude-oil back above $91 per hour. ge financial unit, ge capital announcing a political position, cutting off lending to gun shops in the wake of the newtown school shooting. gun dealers from around the country reportedly receiving letters from ge capital saying
the len made the difficult decision to stop providi to the. gee, now the second-largest financial firm to take such a stance. private equity firm's service capital management announcing it would salvage freedom -- freedom group which is quite a different thing than saying you will not provide services to one group of people on the political judgment we will see how that works. avoiding a potential embarrassment, citigroup shareholders voted on a shareholder -- top banking analyst, also the author of the book exile on wall street. and he ain't. rates have you with us. you buy shares of all the major banks. let me show photo you get into
that meeting today. mike brought with him, if you will, your document of analysts and shareholders. these are kind -- we were just talking about a stock certificate. he is a proud owner of citigroup stock. so how'd it go? how did you get along? >> well, this was my ticket for admission, 25 years analyzing the big banks. this is the first annual meeting have been too, the first time i have been to the citigroup annual meeting. i was blown away. lou: wait a minute. is this really might talking about citigroup? >> i was blown away be used to bazin provocative and as tough questions. lou: i don't know why they would do that. >> i am a wimp compared to these people asking questions today. there was anger. they don't care how well the stock is down the the new chairman and ceo. has done very well. these investors, these retail investors are angry because the
stock is still down 90% from before the crisis, and they want to know how the company will change. there is also good information that gave me a chance to talk to some of the directors for the first time. twenty-five years doing his job and not once did have a chance to ask a question of the overseers. lou: this chance to ask a question was a result of more than just simply buying a share stocking showing a better cheryl the meeting. some ground had been prepared for that to maturely. >> as a research analyst it is almost impossible to talk to a director at these companies. my analogy is to make the new york giants lose a lot of games and they get a new coach, they lose more games and get another coach. as somebody you want to talk to the general manager. this was the equivalent of me talking to the general manager, the overseer of citigroup. we don't get that chance except once a year the annual meeting. lou: added this ceo, the new
ceo, how did he do? >> i think he came across strong . you have not heard me say at about a ceo at citigroup pretty much for the last 15 years. but he talked about the strategy you know, is not about growing faster. is not about being -- lou: you may have to go back to come up with that name. >> but for citigroup stop messing up and stop making mistakes. for every $3 in aid they give $1 back due to some is that. this is about a more boring company. boring at the citigroup can be beautiful 56 boring and beautiful? how beautiful? beautiful and a free to recommend the stock? you buying income if you will. >> i am recommending the stock for the first time in five years. i think it has defied the get nice upsides. over three years if they come through the stocking go from $47 to $80, but they need to deliver. lou: there are some people of brad citigroup thinking right
now they cannot believe their ears. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. lou: good to see you. up next, we will add to the "chalk talk" to show you how the gang of eight immigration plan misses the mark and a couple of places. it is not fail, but it does have a few adjustments the necessary. i'm sure that gentleman right there, senator schumer, just cannot wait to hear my thoughts. ♪ at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in.
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♪ lou: the political outlet politico put out a piece arguing that immigration reform will be what they called a bonanza for democrats. today they upset a lot of people. lots of folks are very angry at politico. and we're going to show you, at least in part, why. politico made a lot of assumptions about a lot of heat from critics today. politico as soon teeseven let's go through this, if we may come
quickly. 11 million illegal immigrants would just become citizens and democrats. they're not too far off, but is still not quite right. and obviously have to register to vote. assumed there would vote mostly for democrats, as they did for obama when the last presidential alexian took place. 71 percent of the hispanics voted for the president last year. now, that is pretty overwhelming. there are flaws in the argument. for example, not all of those 11 million illegal immigrants are some -- hispanic. 8 million of them are by the best estimate. we don't know how many are here. -irst of all. so we really don't know much about who they are, but these are the best judgments. 8 million is still a significant number, i think he would agree. we're going to put that down as
8 billion. a lot of them will vote. some of them or citizens by choice. a lot of folks will be voting. a lot of uncertainties and questions and doubts about the gang of eight on the best proposal and its impact on the country. a brand-new poll shows a slim percentage of the american people just 4% believe that immigration is the most important issue. the most important issue right now. they have lost their attempts to roll back the second amendment. they're working hard on comprehensive immigration reform
again. immigration ranks seventh behind issues more important to voters like the economy, the jobs, the deficit, health care. in the second instance we told you how many senate conservatives say the plan just is not adequately secure borders. it appears the american people to agree. the majority of voters surveyed, 68 percent, 68 percent say straightforwardly the border should be secured before there are any changes need to our immigration policy. you will your republicans and democrats alike try to gain at. you will hear all kinds of selfish nonsense if you can call it that at all. 60 percent of voters secure the border right now and is not strict enough. that is the reality.
secure the damn border is what the american people saying. we've will make some adjustments and bring everybody and under our rational and effective and humane program. understand, citizenship is a privilege we bestow. you get demanded, and it is not a right belonging to anyone who listened to a citizen. finally, we don't know for certain a devotee of benefits of the democratic party because of immigration reform. we do know you -- their the ones working the hardest to change immigration laws. in fact my according to the foundation, more than one -- and this is staggering. more than one-half billion dollars has been spent lobbying on one issue.
immigration is 20 years it does in dayton 2012. one half billion. is number one. that is how important it is still lots of folks with a lot of money to spend for something the american people, only 4% of firms say it is an important issue. like as said, we sympathize with politico for catching a lot of feed in did not need them to tell us what the democratic party is about to receive, a generational gift as is being called from republicans who go along with a comprehensive immigration reform. but we were, by the way, hoping that media matters today al a tougher response hour battle to the piece, declaring that they had the answers to our questions , which we disabuse them of on last night's program. as i demonstrated last night god they don't have the answers. they are still playing games with reality. we will still wait on the folks over in their at media matters
they're going to basically suggesting they could find in the favor of the union against the administration for its refusal to fall the law. >> i think he said u.s. going to find that way if he has jurisdiction. he sent it back and ask them to do some briefing on the subject as to whether or not he has jurisdiction because it is really an argument. >> i think he is going to have jurisdiction. what this would do it basically change the existing law. here are federal immigration laws commander going to that the homeland security pick and choose which people are going to be deported. we cannot do that. lou: by the way, the statistics showed 99 nap percent of those considered are being deferred. i mean, this is a giveaway program by any standard. >> and it is interesting.
on page 24 that 38-page opinion what the judge does say his there's a little bit of a note. the hands of the officers, but, perhaps in how it is enforced in the hands of the judge's. lou: someone said turn toinvest. no arrests. they're trying to us like that out. >> to allow lot of lawsuits at the end of the day against people who are wrongfully suspected of being the perpetrator. >> she has damages. he was in jail for a week. fortunately for him -- >> there would be a good thing for him. >> a governmental immunity is pretty strong in the sense of situations. that being said, they have cercis house twice.
lou: until their arrest somebody the story will be lightly covered. general electric, the story fascinates me. general electric capital announcing unlucky providing and financing gun shops and the lager. that is a political judgment. this is a -- this is a public company. i mean, what happens here? >> it is. they're using a lot of discretion because they're continuing to work with walmart and exporting goods which are to companies that also sell firearms. they're now working with the companies that solely sell firearms. >> gun owners are not a protected class. this is another back toward chart a poke holes. lou: in business law, when you start discriminating a guest in the class that becomes protected end and this is a group of business owners irrespective of what they're selling, i mean,
that sounds pretty dicey to me. >> cheryl is have to be. lou: you are also inviting a huge backlash from their customers and a host of areas. i am sure they have examined that from 8-z. >> i think that the father of the shooter from sandy hook actually works for them and that there is a lot of social issues being in connecticut that have led to this conclusion. lou: some other people will figure out there are a lot of social issues as well and putting up with a corporation that is using its economic power for political purposes. and that is probably going to excite a lot of people to the point of action. not the thing that always big corporations like ge welcome. we thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you for having me. lou: tell us what you think. go to the loudobbs.com to find the link star facebook page. e-mail me. tweet me. up next, the united states warns
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♪ lou: forecasters warning more rain is in store for already drenched states from the upper midwest to the deep south. residents in illinois are expected to see the worst of floodwaters in the coming days as the mississippi river peaked at more than 11 feet above flood level. rain and flooding across the nation's heartland this week blamed for at least four deaths already. thousands today attended the memorial service for mit police officer shot collier who was shot and killed last week during a confrontation with the two
boston bombing terrorist. here is out vice-president joe biden described those suspects at today's memorial service. >> they surely know they can never defeatists. they can never overthrows. they can never occupy us. so why? why whether it is outside the central or two twisted, perverted, cowardly knockoff here in boston, why do they do what they do? lou: those not off as the president described them killed three people, wounded more than 360 others. russian officials now say they want the fbi not once but a number of times about the older brother in 2011, not just once. and authorities hearsay they believe those bombs were triggered by remote control detonator which was close
control, as they put it, meaning it had to be triggered within several blocks of the bomb. unions representing building and construction trades today rallied in washington trying to get president obama to approve the keystone pipeline. union leaders normally his supporters, but today protesting saying the pipeline would make a significant dent in our jobs crisis and cut our dependency on foreign oil. the fight over keystone hits with the president's key constituencies. unions want the jobs the pipeline will produce an environment lists don't care what jobs. up next, one republican senator predicting seven the yes votes for the gang of eight immigration proposal which is exciting. the "a-team" tells us whether that is wishful thinking or outstanding prognostication. monica crowley to more robbers chairman, fred barnes. these three are no strangers to
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♪ lou: jet blue as, hillary clinton hitting the speaker circuit and the dallas area. spanking new presidential library. some are billing this as a preview of 2016. i personally think it is a little more like rerun of 1992, 1980, 32 years with either a clinton or bush and the white house seems like a powerful, powerful lot of folks being clinton and bush and just about enough for me. joining us now, the "a-team." you will find that what they think. fox news contributor monica crowley, democratic strategist
robert zimmerman, weekly standard executive editor, fred barnes. thank you all for being here. monica, how about bring on more clinton and bush? >> i cannot stand it. in the country of 310 million people, we're supposed to believe that we cannot come up with some fresh faces on either side to run? it is unclear whether hillary origen bush will run in 2016. making a lot of noise. i think on both sides hillary is a different case, but i certainly think and the republican side we have had enough of the bushes. >> that is our human debris in is a very insightful comment. i think the country has had enough, but you cannot look at hillary clinton and the past tense. harmelin most important aspects of life and career. [laughter] lou: with a minute. i'm sorry. my god.
[laughter] i am so proud of your continued support for the clinton plan. fred barnes, your thoughts? >> i would love to see him run. a think he would make a great president. and don't think he will. i don't think hillary, if she runs, will win the nomination. she was odds on in 2008 and got creamed by barack obama. i have talked to jeb bush about this. if marco rubio runs, and that think he will, then bush will run. i asked about that. he said, well, if i decide -- when i decide to run are not clear that won't have -- whether rubio is running or not won't have any difference. then he went on for five minutes telling me what a great american rubio is. lou: if i may, the idea that it is purely an accident and a coincidence that jeb bush is making himself known, at this
precise moment in time -- well, there is the fellow who has the job now. the first lady. president obama and the first lady are arriving in daalas. they're headed to a fund-raiser tonight for the democratic national committee. the president will deliver his first political speech sense last week. [laughter] after the defeat of the gun control legislation. the president and first lady also attending, as i said, the opening of the bush library tomorrow. i think uni, market, have disturbed mr. barnes and zimmerman with our call for diversity and openness in our society. >> yes. lou: they're obviously any more closed mind state when it comes to the bushes. in a very open mind when it comes to immigration. pending thoughtful piece on the importance o movinghead with the revolution to immigration, border security, your thoughts?
is it going to be the gang of eight or the regular order, the judiciary committee and others doing yeoman-like works with e- graphite, with just 4 grams? >> well, both of those are in the gang of eight build. i think it will be a better idea has broken up and as separate bills and see how things work rather than one big comprehensive bill. unfortunately we are stuck with this comprehensive building will be the one that will be brought marked up. in the senate. i think it has an excellent chance of passing. the polls look great. hispanic groups are accepting it. it is not all that they would want. many more republicans will vote for it than did it for immigration reform in 2007. so it looks pretty good if you're a fan of comprehensive reform of the immigration laws. lou: -- >> the last time we tried on of these monsters comprehensive bills that was rushed through without anyone taking a look or even reading it was obamacare
and we know what a disaster at is. most of the american people would like to see some of immigration reform, but i do think it would be wise to break it up so that we don't have the same kind of -- >> monica, the sound bites or by tweets. lou: what? >> breaking it up as a path to not getting any bill passed. >> , an enforcement first? lou: making it clear that he will fight this to the nail. and pass with his citizenship. when that do it intelligently, incrementally, instead of trying to ram this thing through like obamacare. >> it is that going to be rammed through. it would go through the order a judicial hearings and scrutinized in the house, but the reality is, unless you put together e-verify and a pat the citizenship mother is no credible built. lou: go ahead, real quick. >> it is not to going to be something rammed through. there would like to vote before july 4th. i don't think they will. we will have a whole summer of this and at the end of the
♪ neil: smiled. you are on every camera. welcome. i am neil cavuto. you want all these cameras and website send e-mail snoopers to slow down and put looking down? suck it up because they are just ramping up. new york police commissioner says he wants lots more cameras and fancier cameras at that, cameras that can catch more, reveal more, and tell more. presumably focused on stopping bad guys more, but throughout they're also looking at us guys more. what is weird is, the other night the prince of privacy advocacy seemed okay with that. >> we should not be willy-nilly look