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that is our show. see you next week. ♪ lou: president obama today declared that america is open for business. even if obamacare is not, presidented ied it today veinly sought to change the subject and divert media attention from his failures and deceits. it is clear that mandate or not, most americans are not buying what president obama is trying to sell. i'm lou dobbs. lou: good evening for a second straight day the president trying to divert media attention from the obamacare disaster. the president focused on international trade, pledging to
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attract more foreign investment into the united states as his failing healthcare law continues to not only frustrate millions of americans, but in some cases also injury them. those who are losing their healthcare plans because of obamacare. nearly all republican, and a growing number of democratic lawmakers, are now demanding either a delay of the individual mandate or an extension of the enroll am period. and -- enrollment period and the public is not pleased. the president is being pummeled in the latest polls, his job approval rating hit all-time low in newest "wall street journal" poll, just from% of americans a-- 42% of americans approving of his job performance compared to 51% disapproving. 2 two major polls with almost the same trend. gallup tracking poll, and fox
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news poll, the approval rating has dropped further. only 41%, 53% disapprove. the president's under war unders are not surprised perhaps with reports of up to two million people receiving cancellation notices from their health care insurance providers, new report reveals that obama administration knew more than what they were saying for more than 3 years, we learn that white house expected as many as 93 million people to be negatively affected under the president's affordable care act. fox news, chief white house report ed henry. >> reporter: as president obama's top aides. >> individual insurance company, 5% of the population. not the 80% who get insurance through employers, but medicare
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or medicaid or va . >> reporter: there are new questions about the voracity of that claim after a report that in june 2010 official predicted that quote mid range estimate is 66% of small employer plans and 45% of large employer plans will relinquish their grand father status by the end of 2013, meaning there could be disruption and cancel letters coming for millions of people in employer base coverage as well. >> it is what the government forces them to buy. >> reporter: spokesman jay carney would not close the door on possibility of cancellation notices coming. but he said that is up to employers who are seeing the rate of health care cost increases come down. >> it is less than 1/3 of increase a decade ago. so problem salved? no problem improved, yes.
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>> reporter: national federation of independent business revealed a new survey of 921 small business owners who say opposite. 64% of those small businesses say, they areaying more for insurance premiums per employee than in 2012, the small be owner in seattle said she already has a cancellation notice. >> i thought i would get a letter from my company, said your rates have gone up. it did not even occur to me that i would get a letter saying you are canceled. >> reporter: a new "wall street journal" nbc poll suggestions that president took a hit on the issue, asked their opinion on the new law, 6% say it working well, 48% said it needs minor chairmans, 28% want a major overall, 24% to be eliminated. and recent reports of web site woes and other problem, 9% said, made them more confident about the law, 40% are less confident,
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and 50% their opinion has not changed. why white house chief of staff mcdonough and other top officials at the lunch today, they are trying to calm down nervous democrats up for reelection who have to defend law the in 2014. lou: not all insurance companies top lose that revenue when they cancel the policies, some providers are now telling their healthy customers, how to delay the negative effects of obamacare, for a full year. as many of those healthy individuals, choose to take advantage of the trick, the effect will to be drive up cost of coverage in the obamacare exchanges and by a lot. fox news chief national correspondent jim engel with the report. >> reporter: there is what some call a loophole in obama kay allowing millions to stay out of e plan for most of the first year if they choose to do so. >> before the end of the year,
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you can have at least another 12 months of coverage without all of the attract costly obamacare add-ons to the insurance plan. >> then they have to move to obamacare, and their hole plan will go away? a one year, and 11 month reprieve. >> reporter: after that people can keep plans that are grandfathereed. >> insurance that you have, would be grandfathered in to keep it. so you could decide not to get in the exchange the better plan, i could keep my acme insurance just a high deductible catastrophic plan. >> reporter: by the end of next year many of these people will be required to join obamacare, but many did avoid the requirement by extending existing plans. and some evidence suggestions that many are doing just that. >> one executive i talked to to me in a week in his call
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center, by a ratio of 15 to 1, policyholders, were taking the renewal extension with their old policies instead of opting into obamacare. >> reporter: a person we profiled from kentucky, got a letter from his insurance company offering him the ability to change his policy year, letter said he could keep his current insurance, and quote, establish your policy year as december 1, 2013 through november 30, 2014. >> it could have an impact on the cost of obamacare. >> they will not help subsidize coverage for the poor people who obamacare is meant to help. >> many of those healthier people are getting letters saying they will pay higher premiums and did yo and -- dedue
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in the new plan. lou. lou: jim thank you. conservative watch dog group judicial watch alleged former irs official lois lerner violated federal law by sharing confidential tax infmation from tea party groups with the federal election commission, judicial watch said they obtained e-mails from lerner that shows she disclosed information from several conservative groups including the american future fund, and the american issues project. lerner retired from the irs last month. but congressional investigations are ongoing. >> on wall street today stocks moved low edow down 73, nazdaq down 7, and nazdaq down 11. >> stocks posted strong gains for october, dow up 3% in october, s&p you of 4 1/2%, and
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nazdaq a gain of nearly 4%. on economic front, jobless claims fell by 10,000 last week. we're coming right back with much more. stay with us. >> out of touch perhaps but real out of the loop too? the president's accolade shield him from scandal from benghazi to the obamacare, the obama defense remains the same, he just doesn't know. just doesn't know. congressman brad win the ocean gets warmer. the peruvian anchovy harvest suffers. it raises the price of fishmeal, cattle feed and beef. bny mellon turns insights like these into powerful investment strategies.
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lou: you remember the "cash for clunkers" stimulus program, a new report on that program, shows that was a lemon according to brookings instruction, the
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program approved in 2009, did very little to help the environment. it cut gas consum contion by at, what we consume in 8 days, and cost for job created, came in at staggering $1.4 million per job. turning to the food stamp program, nearly 48 million americansho receive food stamps are set to see a cut in their benefits beginning tomorrow. those cuts amount to 6% of $ 80 billion damage, that means a mily of 4 will receive abouts there are lik$36 less each mont. >> our next guest has been a combat surgeon who served in iraq, his constituent in ohio till him either their insurance rating are going higher or their policies are being canceled, contrary to what the had the is saying, joining us congressman
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brad wenstrup. he also serves on the house armied services committee, congressman great to have you with us, one of the impacts of all this shaping in the nation's capital, and obamacare. is this now we'll see millions,est mate estimated 2 million had policies canceled, they are without health care, that puts their lives at risk in some cases, what can be done? >> there are a lot of people in a state of disarray. we asked for what? we have people in the house of representatives on republican side, i'm familiar with, they are doctors and business people, they recognize there was a plan that was not ready to g and was not going to work, now the american people will suffer because of it. you know, a look the young people, and i wonder about this, if you are young, and healthy, and you are supposed to buy an
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expensive policy, maybe you pay $95 fine, and see if there still a free market to buy a policy that costs you less. that really fits what your needs are, but america is in a state of disarray, it all over, and the trust in america is way down. lou: you are hearing from your constituents, having their policies canceled, and premiums going higher. are you hearing any like thank you congressman because all of you and your colleagues in congress are doing a bang up job in we love government because it is doing so much for us? >> no, the thank yous i get are trying to stick up for getting a plan in place for america that gets people care. the president is out talking about how many people have inrance, the large percentage of those are medicaid, studies show people do not have access to primary care, have you not solved anything or successes reproblem, we should have been
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addressing who is uncared for in america. and how we can get more people into true my marry care, this does not address that, we'll have a large number of inevitable shired people, and -- large number of uninsured people, best thing you can do for someone, is get them a job where they have decent insurance, that gets more to the economy side of things, which are not working well either. lou: this president, this administration seems content with the level of umployment and under. am in this country, much as you know chronic, this is a president, as you go through his agenda, from the day he walked into office, obamacare, is his sig true law. -- signature law, here we are, with a mess that threatened lives, it threatens the economy, because as nancy pelosi said, if you want to read it you have to pass it, and i don't know that
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many people took her up on either the before or after. we have a pending disaster on our hands, don't we? >> it is right in our hands. you know there is a big difference between organizing a community of like-minded people, than leading a nation. or taking on a business proposal that pertains to 1/6 of the american economy if you never run a business, it is a shame, a disaster for the american people, we're a tough nation, we'll bounce back. but we need proper leadership if we're going to do it i look at one project like ex il xl pipel, that republicans and democrats want, do you know how many people we could put back to work with that, this is what america wants. lou: the president went to boston, he wanted to make comparison between romneycare, and obamacare.
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and we took a look at it, one thing he forgot was bipartisanship bringing people together. and he overlooked another thing comparing them about medicare, the biggest entitlement program of all. it was approved by the majority of the republicans in the house of representatives and almost half in senate. and yet this is a president, seemingly content, to proceed, frankly what i persevere is an authoritarian manner. >> there was an argument on the floor, made a beautiful case about how lincoln and ice specializen how -- eisenhower and reaga came together with the other side, he finished by saying john boehner should do the same thing, he missed his own., the
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president needs to do this, we have people that are willing to cooperate with the president but we've been shut out, i've not been asked by the president or wte house as a physician what i think, i don't think that any of the doctors in the house of representatives have most of which are republicans, we have doctors, nurses, dentists and we're not being tapped. lou: we'll have 90,000 fewer doctors as a result of obamacare by the end of the decade, as many as 800,000 too few nurses in this country. congressman great to talk you to we p it come back soon. >> did time thank you. lou: vice president biden on capitol hill, lobbying for democratic colleagues, on behalf of a hostile middle eastern nation, wow. wait unt as a business owner, i'm constantly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. with the spark cascard from capal one,
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iraqi prime minister is asking the united states for more counterterrorism and military assistance to fight wha he describes a growing insurgenty in iraq estimated to kill 6,000 people so far this year, this is ahead of his meeting with president obama tomorrow at the white house. the iraqi leader, argues that united states should provide that aid because terrorism is an international concern. >> but our top military commander in middle east, general lloyd austin tells "wall street journal" that part of the blame belongs in the iqi government for stopping soon you sunni muslims. >> a senior administration official tells fox news israeli wawar plains struck a target inside of syria, joining us, general thoma mcnerney.
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your thoughts first on the report of the israeli strike within syria, presumably against russian missiles. >> i think this is true in that united states and israeli defense forces released word, they attacked at the port, a sa125 missile, which are low altitude missiles, surface-to-air, that israelis do not want they get into hezbollah hands, it would be dangerous for the israeli defense forces if they got into hezbollah hands. lou: is there an interpretation that they would be taken out by the israelis if they were preparing a strike on facilities, chemical weapons, or
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storage areas within syria. >> that is a secondary reason. clearly, that secondary reason is as important, but they would know beforehand if they were there. this way they were able to get them in one position where they are still transported off of ships, not in a firing position, that is why they were most vulnerable at the port. lou: we're discussing the region, general lloyd austin, top commander in middle east, said that iraq has entered a downward spiral of violence, 6,000 people dead, just this year alone. alma leaky asking for aid, there is irony in his request for aid since high o he was resisting u. assistance. is iraq retrieve able without a new injection of u.s. force, and
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manpower in iraq? >> i don't think it is, lou. it is excellent question. but i don't think whatever we can do or would do, maliky would support us enough, i am in a position, you i don' own it nowe obama administration pulled out we turned into over to iran and made it an iranian proxy. i may be too pessimistic but that is my take. lou: the middle east seems to inspire pessimism with greater experience. >> it does. lou:ly turn to iran. and israeli aircraft striking inside syria, by at the same time, vice president of united states, was going over to capitol hill to lobby democratic lawmakers about removing sanctions against iran.
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your thoughts about the administration's motive and times, and also the intelligence of such a move. >> i think it is insane. why would we have -- when we have most pressure on the iranians right now, why would we remove that pressure, and give them breathing room, this they want. so they can contie their nuclear weapon development. this -- these sanctions are very effective. and if the senate votes for increase antions, which i believe they should. it will have a even greater impact. now, if the iranians were willing to turnover all 19,000 center fuges, and turnover enriched uranium they have and let the international atomic emergency agency have continuous present in iran, maybe i would consider it but nothing less 92
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general, always a pleasure to hear your views, thank you. >> thank you. lou: much more on the president's foreign policy, failures we take up with the a-team, stay with us, much more ahead. >> laughingstock. that is what leading republican senator john boa boar aso calls kathleen sebelius, he is next. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches? 24/7. i'm sorry, i'm just really reluctant to try new things. really? what's wrong with trying new things? look! mommy's new vacuum! (cat screech) you feel that in your muscles? i do... drink water. it's a long story. well, not having branches let's us give you great rates and service. i'd like that. a new way to bank. a better way to save. ally bank. your money needs an ally.
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lou: a third gun manufacturing company has announced it is leaving the state of new york over governor andrew cuomo's sweeping new anti-gun laws. american tactical imports, the name of the firm is moving to south carolina taking a reported to have million dollars in recesses with it, one of the
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nation's oldest and largest gun manufacturers. it may be arriving in some form. a team of computer experts is being brought in to help the obama administration determi whether there is of fakes, the health care website. they are learning the government dozens of their top computer engineers copra hours, and site developers. secretary sebelius has promised a new option only functioning system by the end of november. joining us now, senator john barrasso of wyoming, republican policy committee chairman and a member of the senate foreign relations committee for. he also spent 24 years as an orthopedic surgeon. great to have you with this. he declared sebelius to be the
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laughingstock of the nation. what does that make the president? >> well, when saturday night live calls attention to the failure of the website lost credibility. he is trying to convince, and ties all of these and people. lou: we're also of the state exchanges are working. what do we do now. rodrigo? we have a president in boston yesterday basically trying to rationalize the more than three years of lying about the fact that we could keep your plan, rationalizing, explaining, and point of fact and knowledge in
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that he had misrepresented. you want to delay the mandate. will be more, we are told, who face the prospect of not having health care going to hospital. they did have that just four weeks ago. >> the president seemed astonished and shocked to see it happening, but his administration has known it for
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over three years and even democratic leaders in the house have said, oh, yes, we knew this day was going to come. they seem to want to do anything they could to force this lot down the throats of the american people with more government contro taking health care decisions away from individuals and their doctors and having the government much more involved with additional problems. republicans have solutions and answers to help try to provide people with the care that they need from my doctor that they choose at lower costs. the president has completely failed in the area of trying to work to lower the cost of care. "people are seeing now with the rejection and the cancellation number one, the sticker shock of trying to mike, even if thehey n sign on to their state exchanges, many people are finding it is much more expensive. plus, additional out of poct money in terms of deductibles in the copays, all of these things
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making they care more expensive. lou: is there anything practically that the republicans can do about it? >> in terms of a couple of parts to that, one is in terms of the spending and budgeting concerns that a coming down the line. i thought it was important to not shut down the government and voted that way. we are in budgetary discussions now. we preserve the sure that sequester which is actually resulting in reduced spending two years in a row. we have to make sure that no taxes are increas. think that is just dampening the economy. and then third, absolutely we have to deal with the tidal waves that are coming out, medicare and social security, the two big drivers. lou: i could not agree with you more, senator, on the first two. the idea that the republican party right now is equipped in that budget conference committee to deal with the ec's seven silent, his fighting the
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democrats on that committee could deal with that, the seed is used and particularly in the tar brands and who -- that would likely scared the dickens out of nearly every american. that is to begin issue for a committee that is how press right now in terms of what it is taking on and in terms of its capacity for those challenges. >> time to actually do big things is during times of divided government, but that involves presidential leaders. you saw it with ronald reagan. we have a president who has a veto pen, but we do not have one who is leading on this for so many things. lou: if i may, you are raising the point, i think, validating the point i am making. the bonds rushed. we know what happens when washington in noses, and it is
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called obamacare. aid is a chilling and deeply frightening for many americans, senator. would you now is that? >> the president continues to say, the obama health care law is the law of the land. also, the sequester is the law of the land. and that is the one thing that actually does put control on spending in this country. if nothing passes are designed the additional reduction will continue. lou: you had me with very simply maintaining the sequester in no new taxes. after that we have some diversion. great to have you with this. thank you, sir. as you may have noticed, an
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♪ lou: if you have health insurance, you can keep your doctor, keep your plan >> if you like your doctor or health care plan you can keep it. >> if you like your plan and you like your doctor, you will not have to do a thing. you keep your plan. >> if you like your health care plan you will be allowed to keep your health care plan. lou: it could not be much more plane.
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that is just a handful of the at least 24 times that president obama repeated the line of the year, it would be years. it was not just president obama. no, no. a number of top democrats as well as guilty of parodying the president's talking points and pledged including senate majority leader harry reid, senator dick durbin, senate budget committee chair, hard work right now on a budget, and house minority leader nancy pelosi. house minority whip thomas to any lawyer. and four years later, democrats seemed to distance themselves far enough from obamacare. well, we will call it a bomb scare. halloween. why not. senate democrats are calling for an extension of obamacare is open to the enrollment for a delay in the individual mandate.
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you can keep their current health care plan. according to forbes magazine as far back as 2010 federal officials estimated 93 million americans would lose their health plans under obamacare. to the credit of each of those senators who once went along with the allied, mr. pritchett -- misrepresentation, misstatement, are adjusting to new facts that were denied them by the very white house they were supporting incredibly you can add obamacare to those of scandals in the seats for which this president, it seems to me, is irresponsible and, yes, he had a lot of accomplices. we will take all of that up with the "a-team" now. we are joined by democratic strategist hank shank off. great to have you here.
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pulitzer prize-winning fox news contributor, and with us from washington d.c., fox these contribute an islamic line. great to have you all here. how can we resist the idea that with this many senators representing a delay or an extension how can we resist the idea that it is time to delay for a year, to extend the enrollment and have everyone grew up in washington and deal honestly? >> you have to also look at the states i which those people come from among what they represent, and some of them are in very conservative environments they're running for reelection in some cases. the pollsters have been busy making an awful lot of money. put this off. the voters are going to give you next year. senators have always been much more endangered. lou: much more vocal, much more
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sensitive. they are showing no stomach and all. do you think they're just being adapted to politics? surely not. this is not about politics. >> if they are smart, they will. you know, your i initial points, this is one of the big lies. it is right up there with that did not have sex with that woman. read my lips, no new taxes. the president himself, if this were happening last year the president himself would have lost the election. we reject backwards will we project back he had to lie to get obamacare through. i don't hear many analysts,
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strategists, republicans pointing out that very fact. a necessary ally to put it into law. >> why we will never stand. this self preservation is the first law of nature. lou: i love that. do that again. >> ally will never stand. self preservation is the first @%w of nature. but it is too much, too little, too late. we will see is a change in the political landscape. senators will lose. republicans will take over the senate cannot keep the house. we can get things done. lou: i have to give equal time. do you concur with her vision? >> no. i do not concur. it is too early to make those
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assumptions. will we know is that politicians are rational in that they seek reelection. the research is clear, political science is right. these folks know that if they do not do something quickly the folks back, want to kill them. wall street journal poll yesterday or today said it simply. obama has a 42 percent favorable. the congress is in trole. and, and, and both parties are seen as culprits. lou: millions of people have lost their health care. lou: i never cease such tendency toward bipartisanship. if you will, conjoining democrats and republicans. it is the democrats in the firing line. that does not in any way diminish. i know it. we are back with the "a-team" in just moments. it will take up weather are not the president finds this moment in his administration, is this
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something that is recoverable for an? a new poll shows that a hillary clinton presidential run in 2016 may not be -- what did they call it in washington? a slam dunk. we're coming right back with the as a business owner, i'm constantly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. with the spark cascard from capital one, i get 2% cash back on ery purchase, every day. i break my back around here. finally soone's recognizing me with unlimited rewards! meetings start at 11, cindy. [ male announcer get the spark business card from capital one. choose 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every d. what's in your wallet? i need your timesheets, larry! what's in your wallet? help the gf when we made recover and learn the gulf, bp from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology,
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♪ lou: a disturbing health warning. scientists this week finding evidence that a very close relative of the sars virus can, it is suspected, jump directly tough people. it caused a pandemic ten years ago more than 750 people were killed worldwide. fortunately it can be transmitted only if an infected bat bites a human. a back with the "a-team."
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let me start with you. faced with such a political crisis that it is an open question as to whether or not he can survive it? by that i mean, continue with the relevance and influence over the government that he -- that is his. >> if you look at his second term reelection, less than one year ago now, but it feels like ten years already. if you look at the approval. if you look at the approval ratings it has been downhill every day. there has not been an uptick in this whole second term. a little over ten months old. i do believe he has a problem of staying afloat because at some point he is a lame duck already by constitutional law. he cannot be on the ballot. people in his own party, i think we're seeing it with obamacare.
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they will run away from and the minute is not good for them. in the first german was all about him. now it is all about them. he is going to have to come up to some plans and proposals that will attract people rather than just force them to go along with his ideas. lou: is the republican party capable of mounting a ground operation, attorney has sufficient votes to preserve the house and to take the senate and actually assume our role of, for thectually dominance and? republicans. i would say no. a lot of parts to the problems in our party. the american people are tied up the gridlock and partisanship. they won a balance. they will go and vote their pocketbook in their conscience. they don't like the fact we have a democratic senate and republican house and the democrat in the white house. i think that will help the republicans, but we still need to get our act together. lou: the economy is critically
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important. we are seeing the economy suddenly threatened by the president's signature law and legislative achievements. it is threatening, as we were discussing earlier, talking about 800,000 to fewer nurses in this country, 90,000 too few doctors because of obamacare by the end of the decade. we are talking about insurance companies that now reportedly are in compliance and complicity with this president to maintain radio silence on the issue of a failed health care -- rollout. it is becoming a dangerous thing as we watch these tricks to avoid signing up for obamacare. that means that these insurance companies are struggling to maintain a revenue that would otherwise be lost under obamacare. this is serious business, a serious threat to an already difficult economy.
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>> absolutely. first of all, the views of the economy, something that is a very finely tuned instrument that you do not fool with. if you created balance people start to get afraid. that is what is going on. there is no question, and you will see more of this year. more talk about jobsost, and stability. it will only increase problems, the income gap between those who have been those who won't. >> in terms of the economy, and the last year roughly three of every four jobs created has been part time. there are not enough to start with, but so many of them are part-time. and with average salaries of the course of the year and the order of 25,000 per year without benefit. you are seeing a downward trend in middle-class income. >> at the village gallery job they found that there would have to give their employees obamacare. jobs are being cut from full-time to part-time. and other companies having to change their health care policy where you can not cover your
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neil: republicans say when it comes to health care this president does not know jack. i think the problem is that the president does not remember jack, jack kennedy. hithis president. we rewrack the tap, mr. president you decide whether it is worth a listen and a lesson. do you wonder what a former health and human services secretary thinks of will one we have now? kids, you better cover your ears. and the media has a big biassed when it comes to reports deficit the.


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