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>> that is so true. states could have an additional background check and other features, but it is not part of the federal requirement. >> secretary kathleen sebelius also acknowledge that the early enrollment figures for obamacare which are scheduled to be released next week will be very low. fox news tonight reporting a relatively new provision in obamacare, opening up the medicaid program to even more. that according to a former medicaid director who is raising concerns about section 2202 of the affordable care act. he says that section expands hospital used of the honor system when caring for the uninsured who then claimed that they fall into certain medicaid
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lou: election day in many ways has been a battle, it seems, from the future of the republican party. establishment republicans trying to crush the tea party in some races and in some cases losing their way. >> chris christie set the stage for a run in 2016. but he seemed to be running morgans the tea party at times than his democratic opponent. in part because it created an effective appeal to the liberal voters in new jersey. in virginia, tea party back republican ken cuccinelli lost by only three points to terry mcauliffe points when polls once had him losing by double digits. the gop establishment worked rd to push away the tea party and icredibly allow and obama bumbletouild libertarian
tennessee that took twice as many votes asthe margin of victory. there is a lot to be learned from the gubernatorial races in virgia and nw jersey and one lesson certainly is the gop leadership is committed to big business and establishment candidate as they are with the conservative candidates. no better example than in the first congressional district in alabama. committing an enormous amount of resources to ai like bradley burns over dion. c the republican party win next year without including libertarians and the tea party lot of public initiativesn the ballot last night as well. folks in colorado can smoke pot, but the rocky mountain highl beaxed a 25% and a split
decision and the moral of the secession movement is that at first you don't succeed, try again. and likely to be reduced, voters rejecting a 200 million-dollar reovation. you can also smoke pot in portla, maine. and it is a legl recreational activity. and las vegas casinos, in some cases a lack of moderation we will see what both partiessmake of that and whether there is room for a third view next ear and in 2016. >> joining us now toake up the implicationsor both parties, we are joined by jlie buzynski and a "new york post" coluist. good to ave you both with us.
let's start with you, a remarkable win for governor chris christie. >> it becomes even more amazing, chr christie who everyone thinks is a good moderate -- he could e both, right? lou: he called himself a conservative. >> but he got 92% of the tea party vote in the polls and that is amazing. >> particularly with some of the things that he said about the tea party. >> a lot of the demoatic core constituents and many of them won by 59-point
lou: there was a 19-point increase aswell. >> this is utting across all the of the lines and to me, this is heartening that a republican candidate can cross over that way and we have a lot o voters who simply want answers to their problems. lou: what we watched in virginia was a dramatic demonstration of powerful establishment politics on the democrat side and if not the principalfundraiser, he just barely got through against the tea party candide, but the republican party was basically trng to kill by strangling and suffocating him from lack of money. >> if you ask the people, they will say they will beup. >> we all read the polls.
so in some cases i would say that terry cauliffe was a flawed candidate. these are not rockstar candidates and i think even bob mcdonnell, the republican governor, s what is that saying in the struggle f the prty? >> get his approval ratings are so down. that is amazin lou: up to oe. i diagree. i think that both candidates could think that both candidates convinced ou candidates. but they chose unfortunate paths in their canddacy. can kuchen away broughtll oo the warmth and energy to his candidacy and frankly i terviewed him and i talked with him and this is a man who
isdynamic and a commitd public servant and my gooness, and the remaining weeks of the campaign he was suggish and he looked like he had been beaten to a pulp. it was a strange performance by both candidates. >> don't forget the amount of money that mcauliffe had f the advantage. especially coming down t stretch. >> they knew that they were doing this by not giving him more support. >> i think the problemwith obamacare clearly hped him in the last few days close that gap that he had. but would make another argument as well. and it shows thatthe mainstream media covering the obamacare disaster, i don't think there was any hiding from it. imagine if the mainstream media have covered a lot of the other
obama disaers like bengzi or the irs sandal, along the way, does the whole job issue. in these races would've come out very differently as well. >> the problem with his campaign was operating in the state of ne jersey and he went out there and spoke to the voters and was defined as thigs like this. >> the usual war on women's strategy. to which the repblican don't have a counterstrategy. >> they do, it's all chris christie, he ran against the all woman ticket in the history of this nation. >> there is no attacon him on the war on woen's and itwasn't
overwhelming attack of absurdity. but unless a attack. and i think we have these events when you talk about media that israel. one is how does can kuchen away recover when th tea party emaces the shutdown of government in the weeks leading up to the election. that was devastating, i believe. and with obamacare train wrec vsus this. >> while obamacare let's posit for a moment, -- of course you don't. [laughter] lou: at the monument prident obama's leadership.
>>orthern virginia was part of the process, and so there you go. >> there was a problem and the fact is he os. >> i think that obamacare is going to be the problem going forward. and it's not likely to be another showdown between now and the next election. but obacare is with us. lou: than you both. up nex, vladimir putin apparently having second thoughts about his association with syrian dictator bashar al-assad. al-assad. have that and much mo when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover anlearn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety ist the heart of everything weo.
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three years at the civil war began. appears putin is pursuing a more contiguous foreign-policy. a price has to be paid for accommodation. we just don't know what the terms of the deal are and what the price will be. secretary of state carry essentiallyismissing prime nister netanyahund the israeli position on middle east peace as he endorsed palestinian president's pledging another $75 million today to the palestinians to assess the region and u.s. interests. we are joined by general jack keene, former army vice chi of staff, great to have you here. >> gooood to be here. lou: let's begin with russia and the preration for a transitional government. so far he has demanded a price for nearly every adjustmentn theussian position. what are your thoughts? >> certainly there will be a
ice, the not think that we shou be too quick to throw that tall and on this relationship. assad is in the strongest position he has been an the opposition force. in i don't think this is a fisher yet. assad has a vote unless th russians are undermining the support that is around in. lou: and in support right now, it seems to be rising as the unit states gives further aid to the palestinians, anoth
75 million courtesy of the cretary of state carries today . what is your assessmen of what the united states poly is and its goals? >> eve secretary for the last 50 years iss t to broker some kind of peace treaty with the palestinians and israelis. we have failure. i think we are here, what took place here, frankly, the israelisnd palestinians both made concessions as a condition for beginning the peace talks and the palestinians began to pu back on new settlement. they were not part of the concessions. they bellyaches quite a bit. low and behold they got a concon out of the united states. i do not think strategy why is it makes much sense because what you are trying to do is get these people lking to each other, the israelis and palestinians and not frustrate one side against the other. lou: none could seemingly been more frustrated, the focus
remains an do is concerned that the obama administration is not focused on iran. give us your perspective on what willikely transpire. >> clearly iran is the number one strategic enemy in the region, and certainly is ours. they have never given up on regional domination, and that is why they have had a state-sponsoree terrorist campaign against us and other countries in the region for 3 years. they're moving toward a nuclear weapon. we will have some discussion with them. they always look at the diplomacy and negotiations is simply this, one step back and two steps forward. that has been the pattern for 15 years. they watched the north koreans do it much to their succe in acquiring nuclear weapons. i think ms. and now who is really very much concerned
because he thinks the united states knew that they would not take any action and he would be on his own as eveually they make a race to a nuclear weapon and he is forced to do sometng lou: as always, good to have you here. >> always good talking to you. lou: much more ahead on the obam doctrine, failure of the rollout of fallout. we are coming right back. stay with us. ♪ lou: chris christie, the biggest winner of the election 2013, but who is the biggest loser? obamacare supporters, the tea party, and we will talk with our favorite radio host next. [kevin] paul and i have been friends... [paul] well...forever. [kevin] he's the one person who loves pizza more than i do. aul] we're obsesd. [kevin] we decided to make our obsession our livelihood. [kevin] business was really good. evin] then our sauce supplier told me: "you got to get quickbooks." [kevin]quickbooks manages money, tracks sales and expenses. [paul] we even u it accept credit cards. [paul] somebody buys a pie with a credit card, boom, all the accounts update. [paul] when we started hiring,we turned on payroll.
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and its potential effect on 2014 elections. >> the botched rolut of the affordable care acted nearly cost jerry mccullough the electionast night, and his am knew it. he came from down double digits to behind 2% in the final returnlast night by casting their race as a referendum on obamacare. >> i am so excited to get going wi this and start helping people. thank you. >> in acknowledged that it could have been republicans celebrating. virginia is a key swing state that reflects trends in other battleground states. 53 percent said they oppose the affordable care act. percent called heahcare their top priority. and cook gently carried them. fo 45 5 percent of virginia ters the economy was a top issue. health care was of major threat.
>> despite being outspent by an unprecedented $15 million this race came wn to the wire because of obamacare. that message will go out across america tonight. >> florida senator marco rodeo is sponsoring an it -- senate bill to delay the implementation of obamacare nationwide. >> what is clear is the discontent. a major factor in the elections. >> as soon as the rollout went off the rails, the republican party announced that super packs started pounding. >> if you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan. >> those individuals who like the coverage they already have will be able to keep their current plan. >> that is louisiana senator married andrew. identical attack a hit
vulnerable first terms senators of alaska and k hagen of north carolina with examples of them. >> people who like their insurance, keep them. >> n new hampshire senator, a liberal democrat wrote the president manding a delay in the enrlment deadline. another democrat has sin joined the effort and others are expecto follow suit. they have little choice but to get in the president's face. they know you will never agai be on another blot. i is every candid for himself, and they don't want their next campaign to be there last. it. lou: thank you very much. turning now to what the election means with the sense of what many americans are thinking and feing, we are taking the temperature, if you will, of the country's best talk show host. also there.
radio talk show host two stations just to accommodate. good to have youll there. >> thank you. lou: let me star with you. it does this mean in your judgment that obamacare has to be fixed quickly or it will be a liability for democrats? >> at think it will definitely be a liability. it already is. i think tt they are running scared. what you are going to see at the least ishis thing pushed down, the individual mandate, the employer mandate has alrdy been pushed down past next year's elections. you will see the individual pushed as well. what you are seeing is americans just stunnnd and cynical and it being lied to and don't want to take it any longer. my suggestion is e-mail your representative and say that they are a democrat, they ved for
obamacare, i am voting for the other guy next time. unless you change you would get the message. lou:t looks like chris christie, the governor ofew jersey has the magic formula. he won the hispanic vote in new jersey improved his own deployment among african americans by doubling his performance from 2009. is his brand of politics going to sellnd save taxes? >> absolutely not. the republican wing of the democratic party. you guys are gaining upon me, but here in texas, i d't know if we think like you. not a conservativ republican. he is the republica wing of the democratic party. what he is all about is chris christie. what works inew jers right now with the democrati legislature that he has is not going to work in texas.
frankly, i don't think it will work anywhere in america. lou: does this man have a point? >> i think he is just a larger-than-life personality, a great character. it is like mayor guiliani, but once he got out into the midwest, the heartland, that ball i thatna shop rough new york politician di n play ..3 a lot of guys like that speaking at their dinners. when it comes down to pulth lever, they don't pull the lever for thoseuys. >> excuse me. i have a different view and slightly different from mark. i think the reason -- lou: we don't have room for more than two fus here. [laughter] >> a right. i will shut up. >> i think the reason that he did so well in new jersey and that he can do well in other places is because he has demonstrated that h is a leader.
for a conservative, ultra-nservative, tea party, moderate, the republican a wing of the democratic party. they guy gets it done, and that is what people looking for. >> he gets it done in new jersey, not other rts the country. >> how do you know? >> i respectfully disagree. chris christie is a moderate disguised as republican in new jersey. that does not play here in texas >> they won by 20 points. normally thi would be a landslide. thguy won by 40%. lou: and christie, almost consvative. we will be back withur radio talk-show host in just a moment. we willncourage you to take a moment too check us out o twitter. that's our facebook page. goo loudos.com. we have lots of place for you to visit.
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♪ lou: 16 democratic senators going to the white house. we will take that up with our panel ofadio talk show hosts. senator rand paul no longer a columnist for the washington times repeated charges of plagiarism in his columns, speeches, even his recent book. we will be taking that up. accusedf liftiig language from the heritage foundation, cato institute, and even a quick appeal without giving credit. there have been instaes in which they have not cited sources. he chalks it up to sloppiness, not dishonesty. and we are back and our radio
talk-show host. let me ask you this. sixteen democratic senators of the white house. tell this president to see the light. i assume it is worth some considerable irritation with the way he is running the government, certaly obamacare. >> everyone is selling and, if you like your healthare plan, you keep it. we don't need it. if this were any gat executive, a great leader, and he saw this calamy. he would say to my shut it down and we will start over. this is not up to my standards and i am senng this down. that promise you that i will fix it. lou: ias talking with the new york police officer some months ago. he said, what is the deal with obama? he does not know ofhe irs, obamacare. he does not know anything, but
is suddenly he knew all about the police department in cambridge and all about mr. mart in florida. this is a ridiculous stance, posture f this administration. >> he is just finding out about everhing. do surveillance o on our government >> i agree. the last time i was here i said this, and i will say it again. obamacare was never designed to work. this is a bystander president. he does not know anything. he is lying to the american people. if obama is not a bold faced liar, i want to know who is controlling our government because it is certainly not this president. where have the docrats bin? they are just now going to the present and eressing their discomfort with obamacare? where have you been? we have been talking about it for three years. lou: some of us have been talking about it for a lot longer than that.
>> i have been talkingbout it for seven years now. lou: i am starting to feel like it is oing to be the last liar when sear. we keep this up. >> let me justay that i do not think obamacare is about the american pple at all. it isn and sign and he does not care what happens. even his democratic fellow people in the senate andouse. >> i don't think he knows what is in it. i think he is a bystander. a bystander president. i don't thinke has a idea what is in this law and is just as surprised as anybody. he is an empty suit. lou: you get the last word >> he is a chalk outline. there is nothing there. lou: with that, we are going to wrap i up withome of my very favorite wal -- talk-show
hosts. great to have you with us. good to talk to you. take care. up next amount of former communist progressive last -- leftist tes the story of his conversion to the reagan right, one of the leading conservatives , david horowitz , david horowitz ins us at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in
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and we recommended to you hily. great to have you with us. congratulations on the book. let's start with the idea that david horowitz, luminary of conservatism in the country began as a leftist. it is shocking to many people. i suspe much of our audience. >> that's my excuse. i was brought up in the communis left. what struck me, and one of the reasons i am doing this book and the volumes that will follow is i think that conservatives have to narrow of a view toward great democratic opponents. that to absolute key obama advisers offered his career and obama all grew up and were born into the same communists left as i was. l of them were trained in that left.
all of them went n to the new left which is the moreiapered baby. i was there at the creation n ad have never left. and i know this as someone who left. you understand how destructive the peopl are and how they lie about their agendas. you want to expe and repudiate. these people have never done that. th are still there. and we are all facing this crisis of obamacare. you in his right mind would try this century plan, health care system for 300 million people after what happened in the soviet union. that is what they are. lou: ideologue. the radio panel. and h said, all of this is planned. there is no accident. this has been a predetermined
up-tempo. >> there is a theory that they're doing this to pave the way for single payer. single payer means that he government has total control of your health care. that is communism. that is what it is command that is what they're dinitely driving for. i don't think -- do think they are delusional. you could have foreseen. i thought -- and i am not brilliant. wh they rolled out obamacare in 2009 this is nuts. you can't cram through a program with no bipartisan support and oppose where people distrust the government. the health the american plan. they want to me their o choices and say no, y have to choose this. lou: history is so elusive.
with 20-2010, he of the democrats in charge of the house, senate, as welas the white house. republicans were not required. let me turn, if i may, your thoughts about the idea that republicans still do not have a strategy, do not have a sense of on issues even though they have been handed failure of mammoth proportions. >> because they were not born to a political war. democrats are at war all the time. they tried to destr their opponents. theyant to elimina the opposition so that they can get on with their program. they are true believers in that sense. they believe social justice.
republicans want to compromise. they understand this. you know, the founders created a republic where there are checks and balances, factions. lou: we have about one minute left, and i need to understand this. what is the modern definition of conservatism? the republican rty has become corporatist and multinational. >> individual berty, freedom, freedom choice. the debt, the deficit, the trillions of dollars, it is not primarily an accounting problem. is primarily a problem of taking away the freedom of future generations. yohave to pay that debt. lou:hy is it conservates keep talking about-well we are really talking aboot people? the conservatives and republicans alike have not found a message to reach some middle-class. it is frustrating >> this position is the problem.
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