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defining elegance and has a subtle meaning as well. the dress was made by a beshian-born designer who moved to london. david: she gives attention to a woman whose immigration story is similar to her own. >> what happened to there is no black america, there is no white america, there is just america. what happened to it? >> i have been speak for years to get the project done or even started, an does not give up. if you want someone to fight for you and your country, i can assure you he's the guy. >> had a chance to spend time with mr. trump. i know he understands what it's going to take to fix this. and the only way we are going to keep america safe is to have an
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elite military, all right? i can promise you this. no matter who you are, donald trump will have your back. >> i would like to make something very clear. blue lives matter in america! >> the president must have the tools to deal with all threats to this country and must have the guts to put them into action and donald trump is that leader! deirdre: there is much more happening tonight. fox business has you covered in cleveland and beyond. this is "risk and reward," i'm deirdre bolton. we are going to keep you updated and bring you back to cleveland as soon as it starts. first, though, we'll take you straight away there, former
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senior advisor to president george w. bush. karl rove with me now. karl, glad you are there. you are there on the ground. lots going on. >> we had a tumultuous start monday morning that didn't mean much in terms of the outcome of the convention. but it was a sign of some of the dissatisfaction of some of the delegates, and some of the delegates beginning to lay a predicate for the 2020 convention. we had a lot of energy. we had a candidate's spouse speak, i don't care what the controversy is about words drawn from someone else's speech, that was a warm honest portrayal of the candidate by his spouse. and the other speakers began to
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lay the predicate for things that need to be said this week. issue that needed to be laid out is we need to have change. if you want change, if you want a different direction for america with it comes to america's security internationally and america's role in the world, you need to support donald trump. tonight is the economy of course. but last night it was national affairs and national security. that element of change needs to run throughout all those topics. deirdre: i heard a lot of the speakers. to your point they hit the target on domestic safety and protecting americans from international threats and and 8ors. there was a third dimension of presenting donald trump as a friend, as the former mayor of new york city pointed out, for over 30 years. as a spouse as you just alluded
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to, melania trump's speech as well. we just referenced this. 45 minute to go to this official roll call if you like. you mentioned the and takes monday. but these delegates will start voting to officially nominate donald trump as the presidential candidate for the republican party. do you think that this quote-unquote never trump movement is going to try something again or has that already been buried? is that finished? >> they may try, but i'm not certain they serve their cause any good by doing it. it was cuccinelli and others who were ted cruz delegates. and they had their shot. and what they were aimed at was two things. one was a change in the rules to allow everybody to vote their conscience.
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ted kennedy tried to do it when he was losing the 1980 convention to jimmy carter. it never works. the spec part were changes -- the second part wear chickens for the 2020 convention. the principle part was we would give bonuses to states that limited their primaries to remember sistered republicans and penalize states that had so-called open primaries, and that was never going to happen. california is an open primary. in texas you don't even regioner by party. you can vote in whatever primary you want to vote in. you can't vote in two. but texas republicans arer in -- are never going to stand for getting penalized because we are a state that doesn't have partisan registration.
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the activists across the country had the shared experience of trying to disrupt the party. they are trying to stay in touch and be organized for 2020 in the event trump is not elected or doesn't seek a second term. deirdre: based on what you just told me, if colorado scips and new york want to be the last state because it's the home state for donald trump, can you tell me definitively at least one more state which way it's going to go. >> tonight is the nomination. -e nomination. alabama can yield to new york so donald trump's name can be placed in no nation. no one else is going to want to be placed formally in nomination who is a significant player.
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they may trie try -- try and do something to consider themselves unbound. that's where we'll see a little bit of controversy. to vote on the nomination saying i'm bound to trump but i'm voting for somebody else. deirdre: nearly all the delegates are bound. there are exceptions as you pointed out. today's theme as karl rove just said is the economy and jobs. on that note to donald trump's economic advisor steve moore joins me now. last night was make america safe again. tonight is make america work again. what are you in your conversations with donald trump telling him that's going to move the needle? >> every poll for the last two, three, four years has shown the number one issue is the economy,
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the number two issue is jobs. every once in a while when you have a terrorist attack that moves into the top two. this is foremost on american's mind. they are extremely financially stressed out. what the speakers tonight have to do is play that theme. this is the worst recovery since the great depression. we have 40 million people on food stamps. we know trump's problem right now is with women. how does he connect the dots between the lousy economy and getting through to women? we know women are the ones at the kitchen table to pay the bills. that's the case in my household. deirdre: and they often run the household budget. i'm trying to connect with those undecided women, many of whom
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are republicans will say i'm going to make it easier for you to pay your bills. deirdre: there was a bit of criticism from conservatives that as much as you had the feeling and the ethos and positive, former mayor rudy giuliani knocking it out of the park. melania trump knocked it out of the park. people say we just got feeling, not facts. should the speakers talk about the tax rate or is that too granular? >> i think that's donald trump's job thursday night. he has to lay out an economic game plan. it's one thing to attack obama and hillary for their economic failures. but you have to convince the american people you have a plan to deal with the crisis. i don't think you will see so
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much of that tonight. i believe paul ryan is speaking tonight, is he not? he has the blueprint that he's worked out. he's not going to be an attack dog. he will say we as republicans have a solution to poverty, the high cost of healthcare and college tuition and on and on. look to paul ryan as the guiding light on how to get america out of this recession. then trump comes thursday night and ties it up with his economic agenda. deirdre: a major focus last night, beating hillary clinton in november. rnc speakers took all the shots. >> a vote for hillary is putting all of our children's lives at risk. >> barack obama and hillary clinton brought us isis and brought down benghazi.
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i should tore think how many times our flag will through at half-mast if hillary clinton is in the oval office. >> hillary clinton has failed to stop the expansion of terrorism. her policies in libya, afghanistan, iraq, and syria have created more safe havens for terrorism. >> under barack obama we have no coherent strategy to protect our citizens. under hillary clinton it will be more of the same. i blame hillary clinton personally f the death of my son. personally. deirdre: republican strategist ford o'connell, kristen thaete. ford, was hillary clinton attacked and again this is from
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a political and strategic standpoint in the right way to move the needle for independents who don't know where they stand trite now? >> donald trump's first job is to unify the republican party, and right now only 80% of republicans support him over hillary clinton and essentially the one way republicans agree on is their disgust for hillary clinton. and they agree that the obama foreign policy is weak and that's something they can start to unify around. that's the goal at this stage of the convention. eventually going forward with trump's speech, that's what's going to be needed to pacify republicans and bring republicans into the tent. deirdre: former mayor rudy giuliani said something really pithy, he gave a great speech, great emotion.
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he probably wishes he gave that speech in 2008. he said something like if you vote for hillary clinton it's because you are voting for her persons, and he said in my opinion that's exactly the reason you should not vote for her. what is your take on that? because she has a credibility issue. >> i don't know that she does have a credibility issue. but i believe a lot of people voting for her are voting for her because they like her experience and like the fact they see this as -- i don't know if her campaign would love this too much. but also being like what happened in the clinton presidency. all those people have high approval ratings. barack obama is 61%. some of the highest he's had in his entire presidency. as a democrat we made that same argument against george bush. sure they have experience but it's the wrong experience.
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i don't think it's a solid kri peek in this instance. deirdre: kristen, as far as what you saw last night and what you are hoping to see tonight, what is going to appeal. you often speak for the millennial conservative voice. what is going to work with jobs and the economy tonight? >> the convention is trump's coming out party. it's his job to intro use himself to voters and tell people what he's about. frankly, a lot of voters, millennials don't know a lot about trump. all they know are the sound bites they hear on the late night tv shows and the lies being spread by the mainstream media. right now i think he needs to stay on message and introduce himself to the nation. >> in terms of making america work again.
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they will make the case four more years of hillary clinton will be for missouri years of obama's policies. >> what trump needs to do is unify the party and show conservatives why he's the best man for this job. >> or have a message that's best for them and not have the conversation about how his wife major rides hewife -- plagiarizn speech. deirdre: special coverage on fox business all night. marco rubio startall. -- maria bartiromo starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern. they will be from the floor of the convention in cleveland.
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sheriff david clarke and mayor rudy giuliani stealing the show. both gave a vocal tribute for blue lives matter. sheriff joe a pie owe is next. -- joe arpaio is next. >> i would like to make something very clear. blue lives matter in america! ♪ is the world truly ready for a vehicle that can drive itself? an autonomous-thinking automobile that protects those inside and outside. ready or not, the future is here. the all-new e-class. self-braking, self-correcting, self-parking.
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protest and violates the code of conduct we rely on. i call it anarchy. >> we say thank you to every police officer and law enforcement officer out tonight protecting us, black, white, latino. of every race, every color, every creed, he sexual orientation. when they come to save your life, they don't ask if you are black or white, they just come to save you. what happened to there is no black america, there is no white america, there is just america? what happened to it? where did it go? deirdre: sheriff david clarke and former new york city mayor rudy giuliani passionately defending members of law enforcement.
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sheriff joe arpaio joins me now. before i ask you about what you felt about the buzz in that room. another police officer was just shot, this time in kansas city. officers called to the scene this afternoon. at least three people were shooting at the police officer from a vehicle. so the suspects fled. when the officers arrived, one of the three was arrested at the scene. this is just part of this tremendous rise in violence against the police. how are you protecting your colleagues, sheriff. >> we are still doing our job. i said they years ago there is a war on cops. and let me just say i had one of my deputies shot by a white guy 50 years old a couple months ago. right after that an hispanic
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shot at the substation with a semi-automatic weapons. so it hits home. i have been in law enforcement 55 years. i walked the toughest street in america. a lot of arrests and a lot of assaults. but the racial connotation was never mentioned. here we are today where they seem to be at war against the police officers. so something has to be done about it, not just talk about it. and the president has to set the tempo and do something about the war on cops. so that's -- when trump becomes the president you are going to see a big change. because i have been with him many times and i know he loves the police and the veterans. so we have to get with it, stop the carnage and stop talking to all these demonstrations going on. we do have freedom of speech. all those people that demonstrate when they violate the law, throw them in jail and
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don't be politically correct about it. that's my opinion right now. deirdre: i'm sorry to say it's just been sent to me that the policeman is dead. he has passed away. i think weaving in what you just said from former new york city mayor rudy giuliani, make america one again. it seems to be degrading into a race war, though numerous police killed the last few weeks are considered a minority. >> this is the greatest country in the world, and maybe we ought to be taking drastic action within the law. but there are many thing that can be done to send a mess and. it emanates from the president setting the tempo with his federal bureaucracy and the people. i blame the president in a way for setting the wrong tempo.
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i can go back to came bridge when he stuck his nose in a white cop arresting a black professor. he stuck his nose in that business. deirdre: he said the cops were essentially silly or stupid, i don't remember the exact word, but it was disbarrelling. >> -- it was disparaging. >> i'm a veteran, i love the veterans, trump loves the veterans. the people love the veterans. i want the people 20 come out and support the police like they support our military and veterans and send a mess and out to the bad guys that we are not going to col rate what's going on on the streets of america right now. deirdre: sheriff joe arpaio with us from cleveland. benghazi survivors speaking, saying hillary clinton did not do her job.
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>> we got word they were gathering 100 or so more terrorists from the drone hillary was launching. >> opportunity were squandered when we obeyed the stand down orders. hillary failed. had she done her job that night, we wouldn't have had to compromise the annex. ty, glenn, sean and ambassador
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stevens would be alive today. deirdre: two survivors of the benghazi attack spoke last night on the theme of making america safe again. both servicemen coauthored the book turned into a hit movie. with me now, one of the survives, retired sergeant, john tiegen. before we go on and talk about the night, thank you for your service. you were in this room, you probably had chills. patti smith spoke about losing her son in the attack on benghazi. she blames hillary clinton personally, full stop. do you? >> i mean, he's a state department employee, so it is her fault. she is ultimately in charge of everything that happens within the state department, anywhere from losing classified emails to
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losing a chair or a billion dollars out of the budget. it's everything. it stops with her. and after her it goes up to the president. deirdre: in these high-risk zones, if you could say one thing clearly to the next president about how to protect our troops while they are serving us, what would it be? >> give them what they need. listen to the generals and listen to the commanders on the ground, you know. that's what you should be doing. listening to the guyonhe ground. deirdre: let me ask you this, getting back again to patti smith. you were there, some of our viewers either were watching or weren't in the room. we want to play a quick clip and then i have a follow-up question. >> for all of this loss, for all
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of this grief, for all of the cynicism, the tragedy in benghazi has brought upon america, i blame hillary clinton. [cheers and applause] i blame hillary clinton personally for the death of my son. that's personally. deirdre: i know it's hard to talk about any of these topics, especially with the band warming up. delegates will start voting soon. they will officially nominate donald trump as the party's presidential nominee. what is the most important appointment, i'm thinking secretary of defense. lieutenant general flynn do you
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think be a good pick? >> i'm biased because i'm a marine. deirdre: some people say because he doesn't have a military background he doesn't understand what's at stake. is that true or false in your view? >> i don't see how it is. obama did it. hillary clinton does it. you know, salon you appoint the people around you that know what they are doing, you can learn really fast what's going on. if you get trustworthy generals and people who don't have their agenda around you, everything runs smoothly and everything gets done correctly. that's been a valid point for the candidate. deirdre: it's more about
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>> my son's life was stolen at the hands of an illegal alien. a vote for hillary is putting
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our children's lives at risk. my best friend, my son dominique. my only child was also killed by an illegal immigrant. i call them illegal aliens. >> one minute i'm hearing my son's voice, be right home, old man, i'm right around the corner. next minute gunshots and he's dead. the killer was an illegal alien gang banger from mexico. deirdre: members of families hurt by illegal immigrants spoke on the theme of making america safe again. each of them plead for tougher border control and the end of sanctuary cities. with me now one of the speakers, marianne mendoza. her son was killed by a drunk driver who was an illegal alien. mrs. mendoza, we are with you
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and your family as you try to heal. we showed a selfie of you and your son. it's a picture we haven't seen too much in the media. what is the story or memory that goes with this one? >> we were on our way to hawaii in 2013. it was about, 7 months before my son was killed it was a very special trip to me. deirdre: what was it like telling your son's story in front of that crowd? >> well, having spoken at donald trump rallies before, the crowd wasn't an issue. the three of us hugged backstage, and it's always special to be able to tell our children's stories and get the word out to americans that unfortunately this could happen in the blink of an eye to any family, and that's what we are trying to prevent from any other
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family having to go through this. deirdre: we were watching crowd shots and it felt like every single person was with you. >> absolutely. a kinds of peace comes over me when i go out to speak about my son. i know he's with me. he time we are able to speak in front of a live crowd that our stories get out there. it's hard oh you are on a specific news channel to get the word out to people who may not be listening to the news channel. so any time we have a chance to go out in the public and speak, it's important for americans to get this message because liberal media does not report on it. we are being lied to about what's happening at our borders and who is coming over. i live in arizona, and i speak with sheriff babeau and shaffer
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arpaio. people are found dead d and sheriff arpaio. this is a big problem america needs to wake up to. deirdre: if you are not in one of these border states, maybe people don't feel the problem until it affects them personally. there is also an issue of sanctuary cities. there are 18 of them in the u.s. and other families have lost children as well by somebody -- at the hands of somebody who should have been deported five or six times in some cases. what is the number one change you would make to immigration policy if you could just put a piece of litigation together now, and it would be accepted. no holds barred, what it would be? >> that's a tough run. there are three or four choices i would like to make.
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deirdre: we have time. >> the biggest thing i have a problem with is the leniency shown to illegal aliens in our country and their release from jail so quickly, crimes for which an american is in jail for if the mandatory sentences. and the sanctuary cities, don't forget, a lot of people don't realize what a sanctuary city is. we don't have anywhere to run to be safe from being caught by law enforcement. illegal aliens have a free place to go, stay out of jail, just go and hang out in these cities and know they will be safe, they won't be deported. the sheriffs and homeland security don't work with law enforcement and i.c.e. and they need to be deported
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after they committed crimes. already they committed a crime being here illegally. then when you have committed a second crime you are a repeat offender. there is no way we'll be able to get everybody out of this country who are here illegally. there are people here for a better life, i understand that. but the criminal element killing our citizens need to leave our country. deirdre: that's well said, the voice of logic and reason, even when you had to deal with such a big loss. thank you for 'time and for sharing your thoughts. >> i want to say, blue lives matter. thank you. deirdre: the nomination vote for donald trump to become the official presidential candidate of the republican party about to get under way. we are watching people gather on the floor. we'll get you right back to cleveland.
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me. ♪ deirdre: we want to get you back to cleveland, ohio. delegates voting to officially nominate donald trump as the republican nominee. >> and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> please welcome lifelong browns fan glenn polk who will sing "the national anthem."
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♪ o'r the lands of the free and the home of the brave ♪ deirdre: you heard the pledge of allegiance, then "the national anthem" officially kicking off this time when delegates will vote alphabetically by state officially to dominate donald trump as official nominee of the republican party. the arizona state treasurer. thank you for the time. last night was make america safe again. tonight it's make america work again. we are focused on those two these, one from last night, one previewing tonight. but in the meantime, these votes
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going to come in state by state. are you concerned at all about your candidate? >> no, not concerned at all. we needed to get to 1,237 delegates. we have over 1,500 bou delegates it's a done deal. this is just a formality. it's bringing together the republican party. we need one america, and here tonight we need one republican party to make sure we move forward and win in the fall. donald trump has the delegates. this is going to go very, very well. and we are excited to get to tonight. deirdre: the home state of new york wants to be the last one to officially push him over with the number of delegates. you also talked about former new york city mayor rudy giuliani speaking about one america.
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he gave such an impassioned speech last night. what stood out to you most? >> it was such a powerful speech. he brought the house down with that speech. it gives me chills even talking about it. he talked about our brave men and women in blue and how police officers who for some reason are hearing from protesters. when they come to save your life, they don't ask what color you are or anything about that. they come to save your life. he also brought up the one america. we have got to pull together as a country. this is a man who dealt with 9/11 and cleaned up new york. he has tons of credibility. rudy giuliani has been supporting donald trump for quite some time. and he talked about the donald trump he knows which is the man that when a police officer would get hurt or of the get injured in the line of duty, donald
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trump would step up to help anonymously. he has been doing this for a long time. that coincide with everything you hear. everybody talks about how the people who know donald trump, what a great guy he is. that's the donald trump we know. he's a fabulous guy. deirdre: over a 30-year period for the former mayor, and jeff, for yourself, several years. the nomination vote for donald trump to become the official presidential candidate of the republican party about to get under way. we'll get you back to cleveland in a hurry. ♪ with this level of intelligence...'s a supercomputer.
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♪ deirdre: we are back just to let you know ways going on in cleveland. senator jeff sessions is speak now. he was one of the first members of congress to openly support donald trump. house speaker paul ryan just wrapped up some brief comments. with me now, fox business charlie gasparino who is in cleveland. charlie and ed, what has the tone been like, the buzz today versus last night? charlie: last night was an amazing buzz. me rania trump's speech last night was extremely well received. rudy giuliani's speech was very
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well received. engine flynn's speech had some great lines. this morning was a buzz kill. the controversy came out whether melania's speech was plagiarized from a speech michelle obama gave. that put a damper on it. jeff sessions speaking behind me and others trying to change the narrative again. you know, rudy giuliani's and melania's speech in term of performances was so strong, you would think the republican party would be in an open field running. they bay $zik chicago have to get the train back on the tracks, and that's what they are trying to do. deirdre: tonight is "make america work again." you ran a huge corporation. what is the best idea that can come out of any speaker tonight?
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charlie: clearly we have to get people back to work. the unemployment rate in the african-american community is unbelievably high. the household income, i have empathy for the family today because as they sit down and write those checks, there is just not enough money. their income is down $4,000 a year on average. i don't trust hillary clinton based on the obama administration that they will solve that problem. i trust donald trump to build jobs because the man has don't repeatedly over and over again. he's got a track record. we have got to do it for the health of our country. deirdre: when you hear from former employees, former peers, business people, what do they tell you? if there is one thing to put in place for the business community in this country, what is it? >> tax reduction on corporations, overregulation
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would be right behind that. corporations are suffering terribly. i'm talking about small family businesses all the way up to the great ones. we are competing against canada at 15%. we just can't do it. we have got to lower the tax rate. that money will be reinvested and put back into growth. deirdre: we thank you very much. delegates of course starting to vote soon. donald trump to be nominated as the official candidate for the republican party for president. we have a quick break. we are back in just a few minutes.
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life from the 2016 republican national convention in cleveland, ohio. you are watching special coverage. maria: welcome today too. -- to date two. jeff sessions has internet. it is happening live right now. >> hi maria i am down here by oklahoma and a lot of empty seats over here and i was worried with some of this never trump talk that they might not show up or might walk out it turns out that the bus is delayed. as for the programs tonigh


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