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purpose bell blueberry. >> use your imagination. david: i think i need nicotine gum to get away with from cigar nights with my buddies but that is whole different story. that's it for bulls and bear. see you next time. liz: fireworks, still no proof of impeachment in the house hearing today. legal eagle jonathan turley systematically blew up the democrats case as premature and slipshod. we have details. one of today's academic witnesses said two months after president trump was inaugurated impeach trump. the democrats counsel questioning witnesses today? also tweeted about impeaching trump before he was even sworn in. we have got more on that. as we've been reporting the democrats trying to bolster their case looking for more articles of impeachment to convince voters as to the house intelligence report does not cite bribery. president trump allegedly they
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said committed that. so word bribery nowhere to be found. it is getting really nasty. adam schiff house intelligence impeachment report shows democrats investigated republican representative devin nunes's phone records but didn't give devin nunes a chance to respond. as representative nunes filed a defamation lawsuit against cnn for its quote, demonstrably false hit piece, claiming he traveled overseas to dig up dirt on the bidens. devin nunes says that is not true more information surfacing how weak the evidence was to open up the probe of the trump campaign of the fisa report is due out on monday. the big story we've got tonight that the media is missing. 2020, big warning. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren are now ignoring. new report shows democrat candidate who supported their government takeover of health care, literally got demolished in the 2018 midterms. we got that. more disturbing information coming in about single-payer and
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bernie and elizabeth warren still avoid. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. liz: okay, today's house hearing on the impeachment inquiry. all the witnesses said they had no direct knowledge of the charges raised in adam schiff's house intelligence impeachment report. hillary vaughn with more on the hearing that is still underway. hillary? reporter: this hear has mostly been split by party lines. three witnesses, law professors that the democrats invited all say that the intelligence report proves there are ground for impeachment, the evidence in the report rises to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors but one law professor invited by republicans disagreed. saying he found no evidence of bribery and obstruction of justice inside of this report but a lot of the questions here today have been personal opinion
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and speculation. lawmakers asked witnesses to give their take on what the founding fathers would have thought about what is inside of chairman adam schiff's report. >> if washington were here today, if he were joined by madison, hamilton, other framers what do you believe they would say if presented with the evidence before us about president trump's conduct? >> i believe the framers would identify president trump's conduct as exactly the kind of abuse of office, high crime misdemeanor that they were worried about. >> to in some way a insinuate with a lot of people listening that the founding fathers would have found president trump guilty is simply malpractice with these facts before us. that is just simply pandering to a camera. reporter: causing most outrage from the white house is really not the argument that these law law professors but how one of them made them. law professor from stanford, pamela karlan, used the president's teenage son as a punch line.
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>> so while the president can name his son barron he can't make him a baron. [laughter]. reporter: that joke provoked a rare public response from the first lady melania trump who tweeted this. a minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. pamela karlan you should be ashame of angry and obviously biased public pandering using a child to do it. inside the intelligence committee report is new that included personal phone records of, phone calls between the president's personal lawyer and rudy giuliani and members of the white house and also ranking member of the intelligence committee, congressman devin nuon ses. at&t handed over the records in response to a subpoena from the committee and now house republicans want the senate to do the same. fox business obtained a letter from congressman jim banks to senator lindsey graham for him to s&p the phone records of chairman adam schiff and also the unnamed whistle-blower. liz? liz: hillary, thanks for the update. okay. let's get you more information.
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this is still an inquiry. nancy pelosi reportedly will not hold a full house impeachment vote until after christmas. democrats still looking to bolster their case to convince voters and moderate house democrats in swing states. remember they are vulnerable. they are the ones who won the democrats back control of the house. the house intelligence report does not even cite bribery as a charge. nowhere to be found. after the democrats held focus groups in battleground states to use the high voltage word. "washington post" reporting, quote, house democrats are debating whether to expand articles of impeachment, maybe include obstruction findings from the mueller report and emolument violations as the house intelligence report says quote, our investigation must continue. polls show support for removing the president falling during and after the hearings. bring in new york congressman tom reed. your take away so far, congressman? i want to bring the viewer up to
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speed, noah feldman democrat witness wrote two months after trump inaugurated. impeach trump. meister wrote impeach trump before he was sworn in. >> amen. what you see is continuation of what this is really all about. it is all driven by politics. it is to appease the hard left of the democratic party that has overtaken the democratic party. we're talking about an historic action of impeachment. to use it in this way, to weaponize it politically in this way is dangerous not only now but for this presidency but the future of america in regards to presidencies coming down the pipeline. liz: talk about where the trump bribery charge, nowhere in to be found. the ukraine leader zelensky denied trump engaged in a quid pro quo. house democrat witnesses never herd it either. watch this. >> either ever have any evidence of quid pro quo?
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mr. morrison? >> no, ma'am. >> ambassador volcker? >> i did not. >> any evidence of bribery? >> no, ma'am. >> no, ma'am. >> not that i can recall. >> no i did not. >> he said i want nothing. i want no quid pro quo. >> you testified that you had no direct knowledge of any nefarious motivations to withhold aid to ukraine, correct? >> correct. >> to your knowledge you testified that there were no strings attached to the aid, correct in that is page 184 of your deposition? >> no up knowledge. liz: your reaction to that? >> that is exactly the record. the record is speaking clearly. kudos my colleague highlighting it the way she did. it is clear, i think there is no high crime here. no evidence of an impeachable offense for the democrats to pursue this, was, dangerous from the get-go and now what we're seeing is this house of cards falling apart on them in real team. you're seeing a lot of scrambling now. now the vote is being delayed.
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hearing not about republicans breaking in support of impeachment or for impeachment i'm hearing democrats going forward with impeachment. that is newsworthy today. liz: that is newsworthy. you don't have any names for us? >> i don't have any names but i'll tell you, that list is growing by the hour here. as this unfolds in real time. liz: sounds like maybe moderate democrats are peeling away, possibly saying no to impeachment. that is what congressman reed says. about the hold on military aid to ukraine, the house intelligence report says soon after the defense department put out press release announcing military aid the president started asking questions where are the other countries with their international contributions paying into ukraine? the president has raised that repeatedly when it comes to europe and for example, nato. so how can the democrats conclude that they know what the reason for the delay was? >> it is all speculation and innuendo. when you're again talking about the "nuclear option" of
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impeachment, what the founding fathers envisioned was the last resort tool to be deployed to take out a duly-elected president of the united states. this all conviction by innuendo, conviction by speculation is something that is so dangerous today in america. i just hope the american people are seeing through this. they don't need law professors to tell them if it is right or wrong. the american people can see this. liz: "slate" magazine, impeachment drive climbs into the clown car. pointless hearing before the house's most competent committee. today's hearing relied on professors none had first-hand accounts of anything the president did with ukraine. i want to get to this. here is republican witness jonathan turley talking about the democrats case. watch this. >> i'm concerned about lowering impeachment standards to fit a paucity of evidence and abundance of anger. i believe this impeachment not only fails to satisfy the
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standard of past impeachments, would create a dangerous precedent for future impeachments. with slipshod impeachment make us less mad? will it only invite an invitation for the madness to follow every future administration? that is why this is wrong. in the age of rage, it is appealing to listen to those saying forget the definitions of crimes. just do it. like this is some impulse buying nike sneaker. liz: congressman, your reaction. impulse buying it feels like to him. >> it is about politics. he is exactly right in my opinion. you have to look at the big picture when it comes to impeachment. the hard left drove in need for impeachment was responding to the moment. i'm looking at this from a big picture item and the future of the country. i think a lot of american people are saying wait a second. impeachment? we elected the president of the united states. we have an election 12 month from now. let the people do their job. let them carry out democracy.
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>> jonathan turley said what the president did bringing up the bidens on the ukraine call highly inappropriate but doesn't rise to the level of impeachable offense. you will be back with us, we'll have so much more to talk to you about. we so much news to cover with you. you will be with us later in the show. thank you for joining us, congressman reed. let's take you to the markets. up today on trade hopes after falling yesterday on trade deal fears from china. gerri willis joins us from the big board with more. gerri? >> that's right, trade headlines driving stocks today but in the opposite direction. the dow ending up 146 points. the s&p up 19. big stocks leading the way jpmorgan chase, goldman sachs, j&j on the dow. stocks doing better because of rising treasury yields. j&j higher because the company said its talcum powder yet again contains no asbestos. a. did p private sector employment
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slowing sharply, the smallest increase since may. watch closely because of friday's big jobs numbers. oil was higher. there is good news for some folks. inventories came in lower than expected. first u.s. crude weekly supply decline in six weeks. back to you. liz: checking all indices, right now, futures looking like they are in the green. subpoena, dow, nasdaq. forget cheap shots certain world leaders are taking against president trump at the nato summit. we'll focus on the issues. like the fact more nato members are chipping in to pay for nato defense due to pressure from president trump. that story next. oh, that explains this. the nationwide dome. state-of-the-art venue. 80-yard screen. fantasy sports lounge. climate controlled seats. sushi bar. club level pool. really? lastly...
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from, to the white house as we speak after two days of fireworks at the nato summit. president trump blasting canada's justin trudeau after a video surfaced of a hot mic moment during a reception at buckingham palace last night hosted by the queen. [inaudible conversations]. liz: okay, blake burman is on the ground in london with more. blake? reporter: that forthright meeting between president trump and emmanuel macron in london yesterday was just the warm-up what we saw today between president trump and justin trudeau of canada. the moment at the center of it all happened last night at buckingham palace. a hot mic moment as trudeau and macron were also talking with
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boris johnson. they were discussing the rolling press conferences that were happening with president trump and world leaders including macron and trudeau and trudeau said at one point, that's why he was late. both leaders were asked about it earlier today. the president was critical of trudeau. then softened his tone and said he feels that trudeau was just taken aback by the comments the president made about canada's defense spending while trudeau had to explain the moment. >> last night i made a reference to the fact that there was an unscheduled press conference before my meeting with president trump and i was happy to take part of it. surprised and i think pleased to learn that the next g7 will be at camp david. i think that was an unscheduled announcement. i think everyone's team, every different leader has teams who every now and then have their jaws drop at unscheduled surprises like that video
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itself, for example. >> as the president was partaking in nato meetings in london with order leaders, the house judiciary committee was holding first public hearings into the impeachment inquiry. the president was critical of the timing that democrats would be holding that hearing while the president is overseas conducting foreign policy. back to you in new york. liz: blake burman in london, thank you so much. the media including "the new york times" and cbs early this morning today reporting that world leaders quote, laughing at morning president trump. here is also the backstory. that nato did put out a draft communique that made one thing clear. nato's priority is now stepping up doing what president trump asked for. the draft showed that leaders made a top priority, paying their fair share for mutual defense, otherwise called burden-sharing. joining me heritage foundation margaret thatcher center of
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freedom, he is nile guarder in. you're reaction to that? >> first, thanks very much for having me on the show from london here and with regard to that video that has been watched all over the world, it should be pointed out that really it's trudeau of canada who is the one who is mocking president trump. emmanuel macron may be joining in, boris johnson hosting it all not saying anything at all. the dutch prime minister is there. not saying anything. canadian lead ear and possibly the french leader as well. this is blown out of proportion of many critics president trump. overall the nato leaders meeting in london the past few days has been successful for president trump and for the united states. you have all of the 29 members of the nato alliance agreeing to further increase defense spending to meet the minimum 2% of gdp spend that is expected of
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all alliance members. you have seen very significant increases already over the last three years since president trump took office in terms of overall defense spending levels. more than $100 billion of additional defense spend having been put in place by nato members. that figure is going to rise to increase of $350 billion by 2024. so for the first time in decades you're seeing significant levels of increased defense spending, across the alliance. that is really in large part due to u.s. leadership in particular, president trump's very forceful messaging and leadership on this issue. so, i think overall actually this was a very good summit for, for the president. it is unfortunate that i think the liberal media tends to focus on some very minor element of the summit, canadian leader is just behaving actually very badly. liz: to your point be the criticism of european leaders
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has been this, that they can be postmodern in their own criticism of the united states and president trump but the fact is europe spends far less on the military than the u.s. does, on their own military. covers 2.2%. the u.s. spends nearly 3 1/2%. europe spends on building out the gigantic welfare states while the u.s. has to step in to defend them. you pointed out under president trump more troops on the ground in europe than president obama. president trump did what president george w. bush couldn't, get nato countries to increase their spending on nato. >> look at the u.s. spending level, 3.5% of gdp, compare that with the average across european members of nato and that average actually is, i would say, closer to, it around 1.6% of -- liz: pretty low. >> but there is a huge difference here. liz: a huge difference. we have "atlantic" magazine
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saying trump broke the golden rule, heaping abuse on america's closest friends. show this interchange between the leader of france and the president at nato. watch this. >> number one for them, foreign fighters, isis fighters and more and more of these fighters -- >> this is why he is a great politician that was one of the greatest nonanswers i ever heard. that's okay. liz: what the president is talking about there, france is now pressuring iraq to take back france's own isis fighters. macron is trying to downplay isis foreign fighters coming from europe, coming from france. watch general jack keane on this very issue. watch this. >> iraqis and syrians make up close to 20,000 isis detainees. 2000 are europeans that are in syria.
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and certainly, as you noted, iraq has challenges. they're sure, therefore shouldn't be sort of farmed out detention center for the europeans. liz: your reaction? >> yeah. i think that's, you know that is a very important point there. and, you know, france is actually a big producer of islamist radicals. many have gone off to fight in iraq and syria for isis. france doesn't want the radicals back, not only because the french courts probably would have difficulty convicting a lot of these, a lot of these terrorists actually. it is same across europe where you have liberal judges who, who find it very hard to actually put terrorists in jail and also i think with emmanuel macron there is a great deal of hypocrisy here. macron talk as big game, how many french troops are fighting in syria? small number of french special forces but macron is not
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volunteering thousands upon thousands french soldiers to fight in syria. and always you know, the french complains against the united states. well the united states does act all over the world to defend freedom, fight fence against isis, fight against terrorism. the french, sometimes help out, they sometimes don't but there's a massive difference between american leadership on the world stage and the delusional grandeur of emmanuel macron. he is always complaining a lot of the time. liz: to your point excellent. there is now near collapse of isis in eastern afghanistan and u.s. troops and afghan forces pushing isis out from there. appreciate your insights. appreciate you coming on. good to see you. >> thank you very much. liz: a big warning to bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. a new report shows democrats who supported their government take over of health care, they got demolished in the 2018 midterms. shocking reality now coming to light in canada about
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♪. liz: let's bring in my next guest, trump 2020 press secretary kayleigh mcenany. >> good to see you, liz. liz: this is wake-up call to bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. the majority of democrats that supported government-run health care lost midterm races, your reaction? >> exactly right. lost their midterm races. elizabeth warren losing half of the support she had gained. she is losing because of "medicare for all" which is really government take over of health care. when americas learn details. prospects of "medicare for all" fall in the polls and prospects of elizabeth warren being the democrat nominee. liz: numbers coming from sabato's crystal ball, 45%. looks like 55% of the democrats
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support government run health care lost their races. let's take you to canada. british columbia supreme court case now underway, notes, possibly thousands of single-payer patients dieing a annually on the wait list for surgery there. not enough anesthesiologists for cancer surgeries, brain surgeries, aneurysm, they're dying in canada. >> startling case come to few fruition. >> the frazier institute said 63,090 women may have lost their lives waiting for care in canada. surprise, surprise. government take over leads to wait times, casualties. happens in the uk, happens in canada. we have more proof of that. liz: breaking news. joe biden telling fox news peter doocy he will not appear voluntarily at impeachment trial. your reaction to that? >> joe biden doesn't want to incriminate himself.
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he is also all quid projoe. the is only person, not president trump, joe biden engaged in a quid pro quo. his son hunter getting lucrative deal, the prosecutor being fired in the process. a lot of questions to be answered. joe biden doesn't want to incriminate himself. i can't blame him here. liz: a recent "qunnipiac poll" elizabeth warren lost half of her national support in one month's time. we reported on camera, the day she released her plan to pay for her government take over of health care was the day her campaign would blow up on the launchpad. i want your reaction to this. even obama officials, kathleen sebelius, said their idea is absurd. that they never got 60 votes for anything. why should voters go for their government take over of health care. >> you saw pete buttigieg echoing that and questioning elizabeth warren. it was at that moment in the debates where her prospects started to sink, even her fell low democrats said, how are you going to pay for this? she didn't have an answer but all of the democrats, whether
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elizabeth warren or joe biden who has a public option would have the same inevitable outcome of government takeover, either one of them will lead to disasterous results for the country. the more the american public learns about that, the more they will fall in the polls. liz: what is interesting, democratic debates no longer a factor. no clear winner are emerging. they're still playing to the fringe in terms of health care, taxes and more. what is really interesting michael bloomberg doing an end-run around that, skipping the debates, skipping out and campaigning to focus on super tuesday, plowing money into battleground states. i want to get to this. nebraska republican senator ben sasse really tearing into michael bloomberg for saying that chinese communist party leaders are, that the leader there is not a dictator. that basically they listen to the public. he is saying, senator sasse says quote, this is the kind of stupid you cannot script. >> that's right. and it's not just bloomberg who is saying that. the chinese president isn't a
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dictator. the joe biden saying multiple times the chinese are not a threat to our country. from joe biden to michael bloomberg they dismiss government that has taken advantage of u.s. citizens, been a nightmare to its own citizens that is not going to "bork." the american public stands very much against unfair trade practices of the chinese. bloomberg, i'm not sure who he is trying to win over with the statement. liz: kayleigh mcenany. see you soon. >> thank you, liz. liz: now getting even nastier. adam schiff and the democrats somehow got republican devin nunes's phone records. didn't give him a chance to respond to the way those phone records were presented in the house intelligence peeve peach report. separate from that, representative nunes filed a defamation lawsuit fence cnn for its quote, demonstrably false hit piece, claiming nunes traveled overseas to dig up dirt on the bidens. nunes said that didn't happen. the story next.
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♪. >> he richly deserves impeachment. he has done many impeachmentable offense. >> impeach 45. impeach 45. >> we believe president trump has violated the constitution. we introduced five articles of impeachment. >> i'm concerned if we don't impeach this president he will get reelected. >> we begin impeachment proceedings now. liz: so, as you just heard democrats made up their minds a long time ago to impeach president trump. maybe they even to stop him from getting reelected. in their mind he is guilty until proven innocence. the counsel at the hearing he tweeted about impeaching president trump before donald trump was even sworn in before office. one of the democrat as academic witnesses noah feldman wrote about impeaching trump two months after president trump was inaugurated. bring back new york congressman tom reed.
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your reaction to everything you heard? >> liz, this is continuation exactly what we're seeing here. it is all about politics. about going down agenda of impeachment not doing anything to help the american people. you're seeing the case of impeachment unraveling in front of the american people. the american people know it. that is what will happen here in my humble opinion. liz: i want to get to this. how did the democrats get devin nunes's phone records? they showed up in the house intelligence report. didn't give nunes full response to explain it what is going on with the phone records. here is adam schiff talking about it yesterday. watch? >> i think it is deeply concerning that at a time when the president of the united states was using the power of his office to dig up dirt on a political rival, that there may be evidence that there were members of congress complicit in that activity. now, there is a lot more to learn about that. i don't want to say that that is
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an unequivocal fact but the allegations are deeply concerning. >> okay saying it he doesn't want to say not an unequivocal fact doesn't cure what he said prior to that. he accusing devin nunes being complicit in something. so i think the american people see how tedious this is. they bring, they go over their skis. they make wild accusations without any support. then don't give the guy a chance to respond? >> amen. they used the power of government subpoena to go after a fellow member of congress to go into his personal information, his personal records. i mean this is getting out of control. i would just tell you, the countries is getting torn apart because of this. for another member to do this to another member of congress, this country is yearning for leadership, say, stand down? we need a job to do for the american people first. rather than playing politics taking each other out here. that is what they're doing to devin nunes. liz: this is really nasty.
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this is nasty stuff. what is interesting, adam schiff goes after nunes's phone records, doesn't give him a chance to respond, he and democrats refoust to call in the so-called whistleblower to testify even after adam schiff which nobody believed claimed at a hearing he doesn't know the whistleblower's identity, even though the whistleblower contacted his own committee staff? >> exactly. this politics of attack incessantly, 24/7, using power of the government, of your congressional role as chairman after committee to go after another member of congress, this is really getting out of control. i will tell you, the american people what i hear, american people are sick of it. they want congress to do its job. help them out. liz: they're not doing their job. >> amen of the absolutely right. seeing it over and over with voices raising up main street america. says you know what? we can take care of people, electing president of the united states. don't worry about it d.c. take care of that. do your job we elected you to
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do. take care of health care. do the mexico canada done. that is what we need to get done. liz: nancy pelosi is at a climate change conference while nafta 2.0 is still languishing. devin nunes filed half a billion dollar lawsuit against cnn. he says cnn quote, did a demonstrably false hit piece claiming he traveled to austria to dig up dirt on the bidens of the he is saying that is not true. house majority leader kevin mccarthy summing it all up about the democrats failing and nancy pelosi failing to meet her own standard for impeachment. watch this. >> what she said i think almost agrees with exactly right here, impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there is something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, i do not think we should go down the path because it divides the country. march 11th, 2019. liz: your reaction? >> amen. those words should have been
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followed and she, this shows you she has lost control of the democratic party. it is being overtaken by the hard extreme left agenda that is driven by extremists. tell you the american people are not going to accept that. liz: congressman tom reed, thank you so much. >> great to be with you. liz: look who is here. a preview of what is coming up later on lou dobbs' show tonight with the man himself, lou dobbs. >> thank you very much, liz. big stories tonight. nadler, going back to putting four legal scholars bearing their biases all all to see, it wasn't pretty. a witness to history a participant in that meeting. former white house independent counsel robert ray. fox business political analyst, ed rollins. trump campaign senior advisor, corey lewandoski a lot of people talking about him coming back to the white house. what about china trade? just back from beijing tonight,
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the hudson institute's michael pillsbury whether the united states and china have a deal or whether we should have. be with us at the top of the hour. look forward to it. liz, back to you, thanks. liz: great to see you, lew. we'll be watching. >> thank you. liz: more information surfacing how weak the evidence was to open the probe of the trump campaign. that fisa report is due out monday. what's shocking how low the threshold is to do surveillance on a political campaign now. that is what the media is missing. the story next. ♪. by consolidating your credit card debt into one monthly payment. and get your interest rate right so you can save big. get a no-fee personal loan up to $100k.
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your take on this. >> well, first of all i have to discount anything that comes out of "the new york times" to begin with, liz. but with that said, when you open up a public corruption case of the preliminary inquiry, there are rules and regulations. it is more than just, you know, somebody makes an offhand comment, about somebody being corrupt. you need facts demonstrable, and facts that have to be shown to open a preliminary investigation. now to open a full field investigation, it takes much more than that. so there are more facts and there is a little bit more after robust reason to do things like this. liz: but here's the problem. the, anti-trump dossier was basically backed by fusion gps, the cofounders, in their new book, say quote, that basically the anti-trump dossier was not a finished product. that the details were
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unconfirmed, claims were quote, doubtful, not for public hearing t was based on secondhand sources. so the fbi takes that dossier, uses that as a road map, they get fisa wiretaps on the trump campaign. then they start leaking about it, to the if the ball rolling to get rid of trump. all the while we have anti-trump text messages from peter strzok and lisa page, calling, you know trump loathsome, horrible. their supporters, awful. it is -- that is the context of it. >> what i mean when i said that the probably a little bit more robust open full investigation, what i also want to point out is, probably these individuals didn't pay much attention to what the rules really were to open this investigation. when you get the strzok, page mccabe, the lack of leadership in comey that is what happens in things like that. i have no doubt probably they
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did lower the bar for themselves to do something like this and support it. it's tragic and it's disgraceful. liz: what to watch for. republican intelligence in house intelligence last year, stated that the fisa applications didn't disclose that the dnc and the clinton campaign paid for the steele dossier even though fbi officials knew about that. this is going on. want to get into what the text messages said, trump is awful, loathsome, disaster. republican supporters are branded at crazies and innor rant hillbillies? >> what can be said for that, insane people saying stupid things they shouldn't put on paper. i don't know what the matter is with people. you're right, information necessary to obtain the fisa warrant was full of circular reporting and it wasn't the right information. they did not bring to the judge the information that the dnc and the clinton campaign was behind
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the fusion gps product. they didn't bring that to them. it's wrong. it is absolutely wrong. liz: this is scary. and it is scary yeah. that this can happen. >> scary, it is scary for any one of us been there, we don't see that happen again. i'm pretty sure it will not happen under director wright. liz: pleasure, bill, come back soon. >> my pleasure, liz. liz: extraordinary power of labeling mexican drug cartels as terror groups, the president is considering that. will it cut down on the amount of drugs crossing the border. that debate next. (chime) (shaq) magenta?
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[♪] liz: the extraordinary power of designating mexican drug cartels as terror groups, the president is thinking about that, could cut down on the drugs crossing the border. >> i think it will have an effect. but think of this. the cartels have been for years, buying up property and setting up networks with civilian entities on this side of the border. up to now these have been civilian crimes. if the cartels are listed as a
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terrorist network, that ups the ante that people pay for laundering money or smuggling weapons. 80% of the weapons the cartels use come from the united states. so instead of spending two years in jail if they are listed as a terrorist group and you affiliate with them in some way, it could be 20 years to life. liz: instead of waiting to build criminal conspiracy cases against them, designating them as terrorists mean they or any affiliates could be prosecuted, all their assets froze be inside the united states, and all of them could face restrictions. >> we know how hard it is to deport people. the cartel become innocent civilians the minute they are picked up on the other side of
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the border. if they can be linked to a cartel that makes them for dangerous. liz: mexico is saying this will hurt their tourism? really? the real problem is the people killed there since 2009. >> i canceled by time share in cancun. liz: really? are you joking? >> i am joking. my point is this. mexico is legitimately worried about threats to their sovereignty. we all remember poncho villa in 1916. all the president has to do is promise the mexican leadership that he will not interfere with mexican sovereignty and he will focus his counter-terrorism efforts on this side of the border. if we convince the mexicans of that, it will all be fine.
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liz: thank you for having us in your home and thank you for watching. lou dobbs is next right here on the fox business network. have a good evening. [♪] lou: good evening, everybody. jerry nadler and his gang of judiciary radical dimms brought in four law professors to talk about impeachment in tony tones and why the government should be allowed to overthrow the president of the united states. three of the four law school den denizns never thought of rising above themselves. they were small, shrill throughout. taking every opportunity to smear president trump


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